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	<title>Comments on: Krista Tippett Interviews Robert Millett on Mormonism for &#8220;Speaking of Faith&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Gus O. Kahan</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/01/24/krista-tippett-interview-robert-millett-on-mormonism-for-speaking-of-faith/#comment-17396</link>
		<dc:creator>Gus O. Kahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 23:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A wee bit more on  Millet Apologetics
Mormons have a long history of persecution and it&#039;s no wonder –– 
not unique when parochial mysticism is foisted into the light of day.

http://www.scari.org/Mormons.Unite.html

Robert Millet wants it both ways, he apologizes for Mormon loopiness as Mormons are juvenile and only came to Christianity lately. Mormons, having claimed the &quot;True Faith,&quot; after having stolen tenants and doctrine from everywhere, from Egyptology to Frontier Magic and the Torah, including science fiction, now Mormons claim they need several hundred more years to sort out the kinks. I guess Millet&#039;s apology would be that &#039;this Religion Making stuff is far tricker than we imagined, we just need to muck about a bit more and we&#039;ll be as main-stream as you wish, we are only in it for the money.  Gosh it&#039;s the religion making Business and Mormon Branding just wants its Market Share.&#039;  

http://www.scari.org/mormon-haplessness.html
I will close with a quote a fello Mormon on Millet

Dickensian Tunes
Millet Bangs on the Mormon Organ 
Delight Enlighten Convert

Had Robert Millet lived 150 years ago, he might have become a character in a Charles Dickens novel.
Millet assumes that Mormonism is good for everyone. Therefore he is confident that there is no obligation for full disclosure.
Unfortunately, I know from first hand experience that many converts do suffer needlessly when they relate to Mormon truth claims literally. The fact is the more you believe the missionary discussions, the more likely you are going to make irrational decisions.
In some cases that turns out for the better. Most converts melt away. And then there are some that are trying so hard to be good Mormons that the converts get hurt.
If Millet were selling used cars or insurance then he would go to jail. Since he is in religion, he considers his lack of candor virtuous.
Millet has no idea how dangerous his behavior is because he willfully ignores the consequences of his actions. In reality, he is just another salesman with an unhealthy dose of self-righteousness. When people believe him, folks will get hurt.

Comment by Hellmut — March 23, 2007 # 40 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wee bit more on  Millet Apologetics<br />
Mormons have a long history of persecution and it&#8217;s no wonder ––<br />
not unique when parochial mysticism is foisted into the light of day.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scari.org/Mormons.Unite.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.scari.org/Mormons.Unite.html</a></p>
<p>Robert Millet wants it both ways, he apologizes for Mormon loopiness as Mormons are juvenile and only came to Christianity lately. Mormons, having claimed the &#8220;True Faith,&#8221; after having stolen tenants and doctrine from everywhere, from Egyptology to Frontier Magic and the Torah, including science fiction, now Mormons claim they need several hundred more years to sort out the kinks. I guess Millet&#8217;s apology would be that &#8216;this Religion Making stuff is far tricker than we imagined, we just need to muck about a bit more and we&#8217;ll be as main-stream as you wish, we are only in it for the money.  Gosh it&#8217;s the religion making Business and Mormon Branding just wants its Market Share.&#8217;  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.scari.org/mormon-haplessness.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.scari.org/mormon-haplessness.html</a><br />
I will close with a quote a fello Mormon on Millet</p>
<p>Dickensian Tunes<br />
Millet Bangs on the Mormon Organ<br />
Delight Enlighten Convert</p>
<p>Had Robert Millet lived 150 years ago, he might have become a character in a Charles Dickens novel.<br />
Millet assumes that Mormonism is good for everyone. Therefore he is confident that there is no obligation for full disclosure.<br />
Unfortunately, I know from first hand experience that many converts do suffer needlessly when they relate to Mormon truth claims literally. The fact is the more you believe the missionary discussions, the more likely you are going to make irrational decisions.<br />
In some cases that turns out for the better. Most converts melt away. And then there are some that are trying so hard to be good Mormons that the converts get hurt.<br />
If Millet were selling used cars or insurance then he would go to jail. Since he is in religion, he considers his lack of candor virtuous.<br />
Millet has no idea how dangerous his behavior is because he willfully ignores the consequences of his actions. In reality, he is just another salesman with an unhealthy dose of self-righteousness. When people believe him, folks will get hurt.</p>
<p>Comment by Hellmut — March 23, 2007 # 40 </p>
<p>Thanks, GOK</p>
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		<title>By: AdamF</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/01/24/krista-tippett-interview-robert-millett-on-mormonism-for-speaking-of-faith/#comment-16732</link>
		<dc:creator>AdamF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 20:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray - I wouldn&#039;t worry about being blunt (having just looked at his(?) link).  At least an insult to sci-fi, for sure, lol.  Actually, I think it&#039;s meant as &quot;art&quot;.  His website: &quot;a cultural research think tank located in Eugene, Oregon&quot; ... &quot;his work is characterized as, &#039;an artist whose work remains on the testy edge of art and ideas.&#039;&quot;

So there you go.  Neither Sci-Fi, nor religion, but &quot;art&quot;.  Perhaps an artist would appreciate a more artistic response, rather than our usual hum-drum logic/rational thought.  No offense to artists though.  Keep it up GOK!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t worry about being blunt (having just looked at his(?) link).  At least an insult to sci-fi, for sure, lol.  Actually, I think it&#8217;s meant as &#8220;art&#8221;.  His website: &#8220;a cultural research think tank located in Eugene, Oregon&#8221; &#8230; &#8220;his work is characterized as, &#8216;an artist whose work remains on the testy edge of art and ideas.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>So there you go.  Neither Sci-Fi, nor religion, but &#8220;art&#8221;.  Perhaps an artist would appreciate a more artistic response, rather than our usual hum-drum logic/rational thought.  No offense to artists though.  Keep it up GOK!</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, just to clarify, #9 refers to the quote, but it refers even more to the link.  I can&#039;t think of a charitable way to describe it.  I would classify it as religious sci-fi, but that would be an insult to both religion and sci-fi.  

For those who read my post here, you will understand how rarely I react like this.  I really am amazed occasionally at the glimpses I get into the natural man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, just to clarify, #9 refers to the quote, but it refers even more to the link.  I can&#8217;t think of a charitable way to describe it.  I would classify it as religious sci-fi, but that would be an insult to both religion and sci-fi.  </p>
<p>For those who read my post here, you will understand how rarely I react like this.  I really am amazed occasionally at the glimpses I get into the natural man.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/01/24/krista-tippett-interview-robert-millett-on-mormonism-for-speaking-of-faith/#comment-16723</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOK, Sorry to put this so bluntly, but that&#039;s about as egregious an example of twisting a quote so badly out of its original meaning in order to make a claim the author never intended as I have seen in a very, very long time - and I have read lots of egregious examples recently.  

I appreciate honest attempts at understanding; I do not respect this type of hyperbolic exaggeration - even if it done sincerely.  It&#039;s just too easy to see how twisted it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOK, Sorry to put this so bluntly, but that&#8217;s about as egregious an example of twisting a quote so badly out of its original meaning in order to make a claim the author never intended as I have seen in a very, very long time &#8211; and I have read lots of egregious examples recently.  </p>
<p>I appreciate honest attempts at understanding; I do not respect this type of hyperbolic exaggeration &#8211; even if it done sincerely.  It&#8217;s just too easy to see how twisted it is.</p>
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		<title>By: gus o. kahan</title>
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		<dc:creator>gus o. kahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 18:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Faith Apologetics 
Robert Millet and the Religion Making Business
reveals the niggly bits of what faith can do in the absence of thought.

Robert Millet makes the distinction between Mormons and Christians in a flourish of apologetics.
&quot;We&#039;re in the religion-making business, as you intimated earlier, only for a short time, I mean, compared to the Christian church, which has been at this for a couple of millennia.&quot;
Robert Millet states to the Mormon Enemy, Evangelicals, that Mormons have decided to become Christian only in the last 20 or 30 years.
&quot;We&#039;re in the religion-making business, and this takes time. It takes centuries. And, and trying to explain the faith and articulate the faith, that doesn&#039;t come over night. We&#039;ve really only been about that for 20 or 30 years.&quot;

http://www.scari.org/Mormon.Deconstruction.html

GOK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Faith Apologetics<br />
Robert Millet and the Religion Making Business<br />
reveals the niggly bits of what faith can do in the absence of thought.</p>
<p>Robert Millet makes the distinction between Mormons and Christians in a flourish of apologetics.<br />
&#8220;We&#8217;re in the religion-making business, as you intimated earlier, only for a short time, I mean, compared to the Christian church, which has been at this for a couple of millennia.&#8221;<br />
Robert Millet states to the Mormon Enemy, Evangelicals, that Mormons have decided to become Christian only in the last 20 or 30 years.<br />
&#8220;We&#8217;re in the religion-making business, and this takes time. It takes centuries. And, and trying to explain the faith and articulate the faith, that doesn&#8217;t come over night. We&#8217;ve really only been about that for 20 or 30 years.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scari.org/Mormon.Deconstruction.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.scari.org/Mormon.Deconstruction.html</a></p>
<p>GOK</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Whipkey</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/01/24/krista-tippett-interview-robert-millett-on-mormonism-for-speaking-of-faith/#comment-3239</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay Whipkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Faith is often the spiritual uplift and enlightenment that I wish I was getting at church.  I highly recommend it to all.  I listen to every podcast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Faith is often the spiritual uplift and enlightenment that I wish I was getting at church.  I highly recommend it to all.  I listen to every podcast.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Ainsworth</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/01/24/krista-tippett-interview-robert-millett-on-mormonism-for-speaking-of-faith/#comment-3231</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Ainsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How courteous of Trent Gilliss to go out of his way to post an apology here on Mormon Matters for the understandable mix-up on the Church name (it is quite a mouthful, after all).  What a class act!

It is such a relief and so refreshing to finally have someone as respected and capable as Krista Tippet taking Mormons seriously.  And I love that someone finally chose to address our basics, rather than beating the dead horses at the fringes.  That has been getting sooooo old.

Three cheers for Speaking of Faith!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How courteous of Trent Gilliss to go out of his way to post an apology here on Mormon Matters for the understandable mix-up on the Church name (it is quite a mouthful, after all).  What a class act!</p>
<p>It is such a relief and so refreshing to finally have someone as respected and capable as Krista Tippet taking Mormons seriously.  And I love that someone finally chose to address our basics, rather than beating the dead horses at the fringes.  That has been getting sooooo old.</p>
<p>Three cheers for Speaking of Faith!</p>
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		<title>By: Doc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Rocks,
   thanks for the heads up John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Rocks,<br />
   thanks for the heads up John</p>
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		<title>By: John Dehlin</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/01/24/krista-tippett-interview-robert-millett-on-mormonism-for-speaking-of-faith/#comment-3219</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dehlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent,

My pleasure!  If I/we can ever be of any assistance to the program, please let us know.  We&#039;re huge fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent,</p>
<p>My pleasure!  If I/we can ever be of any assistance to the program, please let us know.  We&#8217;re huge fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Gilliss</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/01/24/krista-tippett-interview-robert-millett-on-mormonism-for-speaking-of-faith/#comment-3210</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Gilliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Carlos and all others reading this post. I would like to apologize for not correctly identifying the proper name as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the final paragraph of Krista&#039;s journal. We were absolutely aware of the proper name (as you can see in the opening program description), but I failed to correct this before publication. I&#039;m the online editor; the mistake is mine.

John, thanks for bringing the program to your readers&#039; attention, and thanks for listening. All the best. tg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carlos and all others reading this post. I would like to apologize for not correctly identifying the proper name as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the final paragraph of Krista&#8217;s journal. We were absolutely aware of the proper name (as you can see in the opening program description), but I failed to correct this before publication. I&#8217;m the online editor; the mistake is mine.</p>
<p>John, thanks for bringing the program to your readers&#8217; attention, and thanks for listening. All the best. tg</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/01/24/krista-tippett-interview-robert-millett-on-mormonism-for-speaking-of-faith/#comment-3202</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this. Interesting discussion, although Tippet calls us repeatedly &#039;the church of latter-day saints&#039;. She never mentions Jesus at all! Interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this. Interesting discussion, although Tippet calls us repeatedly &#8216;the church of latter-day saints&#8217;. She never mentions Jesus at all! Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Ainsworth</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/01/24/krista-tippett-interview-robert-millett-on-mormonism-for-speaking-of-faith/#comment-3194</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Ainsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so excited to listen to this.  I have loved her program and have long wished she would interview a Mormon.  Thanks for the heads up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so excited to listen to this.  I have loved her program and have long wished she would interview a Mormon.  Thanks for the heads up!</p>
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