Comments on: Celebrating John Dehlin http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/ A weekly podcast exploring Mormon culture and current events. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:18:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Read the Quran http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-14299 Read the Quran Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:19:39 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-14299 John Dehlin and Joe P...I think you are both inspirational. Now that you know the falsehoods of Mormonism and Christianity I hope that you will except Muhammad as God's last and final prophet and come to worship Allah, the one and only God. God is perfect and judges righteously... As-Salāmu `Alaykum John Dehlin and Joe P…I think you are both inspirational. Now that you know the falsehoods of Mormonism and Christianity I hope that you will except Muhammad as God’s last and final prophet and come to worship Allah, the one and only God.

God is perfect and judges righteously…

As-Salāmu `Alaykum

]]> By: John Dehlin- Humanist « darwinian remiix http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13382 John Dehlin- Humanist « darwinian remiix Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:02:50 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13382 [...] more on “J-Dizzle”:  http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/ [...] [...] more on “J-Dizzle”:  http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/ [...]

]]> By: AdamF http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13371 AdamF Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:53:28 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13371 "One thing is perfect. Jesus Christ... all earthly denominations will have problems..." On these things we can certainly agree! I appreciate your kindness and sincerity. “One thing is perfect. Jesus Christ… all earthly denominations will have problems…”

On these things we can certainly agree!

I appreciate your kindness and sincerity.

]]> By: Joe P. http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13370 Joe P. Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:38:36 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13370 AdamF. I do appreciate you understanding my motives are not hateful, but loving. I try to witness Jesus Christ to Mormons whenever possible. Some are offended, some (like you) are more receptive. I want to let you know... One thing is perfect. Jesus Christ. Why put your faith and worship toward any particular church? All churches are imperfect, all men are fallen, all earthly denominations will have problems. But, when you have a personal relationship with Christ you realize he is ALL that matters. He is perfect! God bless you... AdamF. I do appreciate you understanding my motives are not hateful, but loving. I try to witness Jesus Christ to Mormons whenever possible. Some are offended, some (like you) are more receptive.

I want to let you know… One thing is perfect. Jesus Christ. Why put your faith and worship toward any particular church? All churches are imperfect, all men are fallen, all earthly denominations will have problems. But, when you have a personal relationship with Christ you realize he is ALL that matters. He is perfect!

God bless you…

]]> By: AdamF http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13362 AdamF Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:47:38 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13362 Joe P - In the spirit of John Dehlin :), I will thank you for your concern and love. On top of that, I can never fault people of other faiths trying to do missionary work, as I did/do myself. While I agree there have been "falsehoods" taught in the church, it is inconsistent or at least naive to assume that there are no falsehoods in other religions. We all have plenty of them. Joe P – In the spirit of John Dehlin :) , I will thank you for your concern and love. On top of that, I can never fault people of other faiths trying to do missionary work, as I did/do myself.

While I agree there have been “falsehoods” taught in the church, it is inconsistent or at least naive to assume that there are no falsehoods in other religions. We all have plenty of them.

]]> By: Joe P. http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13357 Joe P. Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:47:58 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13357 John you ARE a great guy! With all you know about the falsehoods of Mormonism I hope you will build a personal relationship with Jesus Christ someday. With a personal relationship to Christ all of the questionable theology, problems with religiosity, weird LDS prophet's teachings, etc., instantly melt away. If you are out there listening John... Ask Jesus into your heart, the one and only omnipresent, eternal, all powerful God. I believe in my heart that you know Jesus is the answer. I love you John. I've prayed for you multiple times. I sent you an email once, but you never responded. God bless you and your family... GO AGGIES! John you ARE a great guy!

With all you know about the falsehoods of Mormonism I hope you will build a personal relationship with Jesus Christ someday. With a personal relationship to Christ all of the questionable theology, problems with religiosity, weird LDS prophet’s teachings, etc., instantly melt away.

If you are out there listening John… Ask Jesus into your heart, the one and only omnipresent, eternal, all powerful God. I believe in my heart that you know Jesus is the answer.

I love you John. I’ve prayed for you multiple times. I sent you an email once, but you never responded.

God bless you and your family… GO AGGIES!

]]> By: wren http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13307 wren Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:45:18 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13307 John is the reason several people either remain in church, trying to find the the middle way, or have found a way to continue outside the church without bitterness (or at the very least, less anger/frustration). The reason for John's success is because he has the very rare and unique ability to empathize <i>wholly</i>. That, combined with his consistent humility, respect for others, and demeanor which puts everyone at ease, is what makes him exceptional. He has has been a healer inside and outside the church in a way that few could be. John is the reason several people either remain in church, trying to find the the middle way, or have found a way to continue outside the church without bitterness (or at the very least, less anger/frustration).

The reason for John’s success is because he has the very rare and unique ability to empathize wholly. That, combined with his consistent humility, respect for others, and demeanor which puts everyone at ease, is what makes him exceptional.

He has has been a healer inside and outside the church in a way that few could be.

]]> By: Stephen Wellington http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13205 Stephen Wellington Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:07:46 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13205 It takes a man of integrity to stand on the side of regular people. This is why I like John Dehlin. I put him in the same category as Chomsky/Martin Luther King Jr. in his unrelentless championing for truth and for supporting and giving a voice to the poor in spirit by honestly pursuing authority for legitimate answers. And I like him because he remains grounded through it all... I just hope he doesnt get up to those orgies that MLK was infamous for. ;-) It takes a man of integrity to stand on the side of regular people. This is why I like John Dehlin.

I put him in the same category as Chomsky/Martin Luther King Jr. in his unrelentless championing for truth and for supporting and giving a voice to the poor in spirit by honestly pursuing authority for legitimate answers.

And I like him because he remains grounded through it all… I just hope he doesnt get up to those orgies that MLK was infamous for. ;-)

]]> By: Rob G http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13203 Rob G Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:48:33 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13203 Amen. Thank you John for all that you have done. You have done more to help struggling Mormons than you will probably ever know. I was sad to see you hand over the reins, although I approve of your putting your family first. May God bless you and your family for your efforts. Amen. Thank you John for all that you have done. You have done more to help struggling Mormons than you will probably ever know. I was sad to see you hand over the reins, although I approve of your putting your family first. May God bless you and your family for your efforts.

]]> By: Jeff Spector http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13197 Jeff Spector Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:26:55 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13197 John is also my Stripling Warrior!!!!! John is also my Stripling Warrior!!!!!

]]> By: John Nilsson http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13195 John Nilsson Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:26:10 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13195 I agree with you, Steve-O. John should be the "sung" hero of the Bloggernacle! Thanks for singing! I agree with you, Steve-O. John should be the “sung” hero of the Bloggernacle! Thanks for singing!

]]> By: Jeff Spector http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13194 Jeff Spector Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:23:50 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13194 I know who it is..... Nanny nanny...... :) I know who it is….. Nanny nanny…… :)

]]> By: hawkgrrrl http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13158 hawkgrrrl Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:36:29 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13158 Bruce - fair enough. Casting stones from my pseudonum is kinda hypocritical. Yes, it is true. My parents did not name me hawkgrrrl. I am not married to Hawkman. I have no Hawk-kids. Bruce – fair enough. Casting stones from my pseudonum is kinda hypocritical. Yes, it is true. My parents did not name me hawkgrrrl. I am not married to Hawkman. I have no Hawk-kids.

]]> By: Jason Moore http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13146 Jason Moore Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:21:31 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13146 John Dehlin is definitely my kind of guy. I know of several friends that have found Mormon Stories independent of me. I just had dinner tonight with a friend and he mentioned that Mormon Stories has had a very postitive imact on his faith journey. John Dehlin is definitely my kind of guy. I know of several friends that have found Mormon Stories independent of me. I just had dinner tonight with a friend and he mentioned that Mormon Stories has had a very postitive imact on his faith journey.

]]> By: Shawn Larsen http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13114 Shawn Larsen Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:18:36 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13114 Amen and amen. I have come to think of John D as the patron saint of the Bloggernacle. I was lucky enough to run into Mormon Stories in its very early days (i.e., John's posting of his letters to Dallin Oaks). Turns out he and I served in the same mission and missed each other by only a couple of months. We have a lot in common -- I was one of the poor souls left to find/clean up after all those kiddie baps he talks about, and I served in the same hellhole where his mission ended(Uspantan). I can't tell you the number of people I have turned on to his podcasts, including my mom (my personal favorite -- Greg Kearney's discussion of Masonry). The best part is, he's just as friendly in person. Thanks, John. Amen and amen. I have come to think of John D as the patron saint of the Bloggernacle. I was lucky enough to run into Mormon Stories in its very early days (i.e., John’s posting of his letters to Dallin Oaks). Turns out he and I served in the same mission and missed each other by only a couple of months. We have a lot in common — I was one of the poor souls left to find/clean up after all those kiddie baps he talks about, and I served in the same hellhole where his mission ended(Uspantan). I can’t tell you the number of people I have turned on to his podcasts, including my mom (my personal favorite — Greg Kearney’s discussion of Masonry). The best part is, he’s just as friendly in person. Thanks, John.

]]> By: Stephen Wellington http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13112 Stephen Wellington Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:16:00 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13112 I totally agree hawkgrrrl...and as I get older I come to respect people more for being open and honest. Thanks for your comments. "If you think someone is perfect you dont know them well enough." I totally agree hawkgrrrl…and as I get older I come to respect people more for being open and honest. Thanks for your comments.

“If you think someone is perfect you dont know them well enough.”

]]> By: Bruce Nielson http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13111 Bruce Nielson Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:15:29 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13111 Stephen, Send me an email who it was you were trying to interview. I want to see if I can get an interview with them or if I'd be rejected too. :P (Just kidding.) But seriously, let's not portray this anonymous person as not wanting an interview because they are against open communication or "bringing together people who are at veraious points on the scale." There are a lot of reasons why a Mormon might feel uncomfortable giving an interview here. I would be for some purposes -- and I blog here! :P So I think we need to cut this person some slack and not read the worst into it. Indeed, it even could just be a misunderstanding. Context matters! Stephen,

Send me an email who it was you were trying to interview. I want to see if I can get an interview with them or if I’d be rejected too. :P (Just kidding.)

But seriously, let’s not portray this anonymous person as not wanting an interview because they are against open communication or “bringing together people who are at veraious points on the scale.”

There are a lot of reasons why a Mormon might feel uncomfortable giving an interview here. I would be for some purposes — and I blog here! :P So I think we need to cut this person some slack and not read the worst into it.

Indeed, it even could just be a misunderstanding.

Context matters!

]]> By: hawkgrrrl http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13106 hawkgrrrl Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:03:09 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13106 I've been thinking about that refusal to be interviewed since I read this post this morning. I'm still trying to get my head around that. I think there is a real purpose in bringing together people who are at various points on the scale with regard to the church. I would like to think we can all be edified and enlightened in so doing. I think there is an opposing viewpoint in the church that would have us not "sup with sinners" or only have strong, active LDS associations. Perhaps not quite as strongly stated as that, but just a tendency. There is definitely a difference between spirituality and religion, and many who are of other faiths or who are no longer LDS still have something to contribute spiritually to us as a community. I'm just thrilled that we can keep a dialog going. But the "other" faction I mention is also of the ideology of white-washing our journals and only telling what is edifying. They have a point, but I can't really identify with people who never have a question or who never consider alternate viewpoints. I'm glad to know of my ancestors' mistakes and struggles and that they were made of flesh and blood. How can I turn my heart to a statue or an icon? Well, I've gone far afield here, but just some thoughts. I’ve been thinking about that refusal to be interviewed since I read this post this morning. I’m still trying to get my head around that. I think there is a real purpose in bringing together people who are at various points on the scale with regard to the church. I would like to think we can all be edified and enlightened in so doing. I think there is an opposing viewpoint in the church that would have us not “sup with sinners” or only have strong, active LDS associations. Perhaps not quite as strongly stated as that, but just a tendency. There is definitely a difference between spirituality and religion, and many who are of other faiths or who are no longer LDS still have something to contribute spiritually to us as a community. I’m just thrilled that we can keep a dialog going. But the “other” faction I mention is also of the ideology of white-washing our journals and only telling what is edifying. They have a point, but I can’t really identify with people who never have a question or who never consider alternate viewpoints. I’m glad to know of my ancestors’ mistakes and struggles and that they were made of flesh and blood. How can I turn my heart to a statue or an icon? Well, I’ve gone far afield here, but just some thoughts.

]]> By: Stephen M (Ethesis) http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13094 Stephen M (Ethesis) Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:56:58 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13094 Nice tribute, I hope John approves. Nice tribute, I hope John approves.

]]> By: Lisa Ray Turner http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13091 Lisa Ray Turner Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:25:04 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13091 I agree. I've so enjoyed the Mormon Stories podcasts, and I admire the balance John Dehlin has brought to the community of Mormons of all kinds. I agree. I’ve so enjoyed the Mormon Stories podcasts, and I admire the balance John Dehlin has brought to the community of Mormons of all kinds.

]]> By: Joe Geisner http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/20/eulogy-to-john-dehlin/#comment-13077 Joe Geisner Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:59:09 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=435#comment-13077 Stephen, This is very nice and I think appropriate. John provided a valuable service to our community with Mormon Stories and this blog. From my perspective they are the two classiest place on the internet for a Mormon. If you want to contact me privately I have a few suggestion for interviews with Mormon Stories. Stephen,

This is very nice and I think appropriate. John provided a valuable service to our community with Mormon Stories and this blog. From my perspective they are the two classiest place on the internet for a Mormon.

If you want to contact me privately I have a few suggestion for interviews with Mormon Stories.

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