Comments on: Shabbos Yom Tov Pesach with My Friend Sam http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/26/shabbos-yom-tov-pesach-with-my-friend-sam/ Exploring Mormon culture in a balanced way Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:17:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Stephen Wellington http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/26/shabbos-yom-tov-pesach-with-my-friend-sam/#comment-14100 Stephen Wellington Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:32:28 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=458#comment-14100 lol....I have never heard of it in the negative so you are right to assume I mean that I am delighted. :-) Ask Andrew Ainsworth about the new word I taught him recently. A bit rude but quintessentially British. lol lol….I have never heard of it in the negative so you are right to assume I mean that I am delighted. :-) Ask Andrew Ainsworth about the new word I taught him recently. A bit rude but quintessentially British. lol

]]> By: hawkgrrrl http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/26/shabbos-yom-tov-pesach-with-my-friend-sam/#comment-14062 hawkgrrrl Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:59:34 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=458#comment-14062 Stephen Wellington: Whoa, "chuffed" is a new one for me. So, I looked it up, and it can either mean: chuffed1 –adjective British Informal. delighted; pleased; satisfied. OR chuffed2 –adjective British Informal. annoyed; displeased; disgruntled. So, is it really used both ways to mean opposite things? I assume you meant the positive version or you would not have shared his comment, right? Stephen Wellington: Whoa, “chuffed” is a new one for me. So, I looked it up, and it can either mean:
chuffed1 –adjective British Informal. delighted; pleased; satisfied. OR
chuffed2 –adjective British Informal. annoyed; displeased; disgruntled.

So, is it really used both ways to mean opposite things? I assume you meant the positive version or you would not have shared his comment, right?

]]> By: Jeff Spector http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/26/shabbos-yom-tov-pesach-with-my-friend-sam/#comment-14051 Jeff Spector Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:12:50 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=458#comment-14051 We had a mini-passover, not much ceremony, but heavy on the food. And we had a lamb, which Jews do not eat during passover. We had a mini-passover, not much ceremony, but heavy on the food. And we had a lamb, which Jews do not eat during passover.

]]> By: Stephen Wellington http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/26/shabbos-yom-tov-pesach-with-my-friend-sam/#comment-14040 Stephen Wellington Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:30:58 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=458#comment-14040 WOW...you guys no so much. I am still learning and love listening to it all. There is so much to take in. Did you celebrate passover Jeff? Sam has seen the comments and he is quite chuffed with the readership here and knowledge that people have. WOW…you guys no so much. I am still learning and love listening to it all. There is so much to take in. Did you celebrate passover Jeff?

Sam has seen the comments and he is quite chuffed with the readership here and knowledge that people have.

]]> By: Jeff Spector http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/26/shabbos-yom-tov-pesach-with-my-friend-sam/#comment-14027 Jeff Spector Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:56:24 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=458#comment-14027 Another interesting thing is that Steve used the word "Shabbos" which is an Ashkenazi Hebrew pronunciation. the letter Tav without the dot in the middle is pronounced "s". In the Sephardi, it is pronounced t same as the Tav with the dot, which is called a Dagesh. The Ashkenazi were European Jews while the Sephardi are Spanish and southern European and African Jews. Another interesting thing is that Steve used the word “Shabbos” which is an Ashkenazi Hebrew pronunciation. the letter Tav without the dot in the middle is pronounced “s”. In the Sephardi, it is pronounced t same as the Tav with the dot, which is called a Dagesh.

The Ashkenazi were European Jews while the Sephardi are Spanish and southern European and African Jews.

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Not easy!

]]> By: Sam B. http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/26/shabbos-yom-tov-pesach-with-my-friend-sam/#comment-14011 Sam B. Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:28:23 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=458#comment-14011 Actually, if your friend keeps kosher, it's likely that he couldn't eat anything that you could bring. It's not just a matter of the food you eat--it has to do with combinations and even preparation. The previous tenants in my apartment were Orthodox; we've got a couple cabinets, and one has a "Meat" sticker on it, while the other has a "Dairy" sticker. Basically, as I understand it, not only do you not mix milk and meat--you have a separate set of pots and pans for your milk and your meat dishes. It is impressive to me what faithful people do to establish their relationship with God (my people included). Actually, if your friend keeps kosher, it’s likely that he couldn’t eat anything that you could bring. It’s not just a matter of the food you eat–it has to do with combinations and even preparation. The previous tenants in my apartment were Orthodox; we’ve got a couple cabinets, and one has a “Meat” sticker on it, while the other has a “Dairy” sticker. Basically, as I understand it, not only do you not mix milk and meat–you have a separate set of pots and pans for your milk and your meat dishes. It is impressive to me what faithful people do to establish their relationship with God (my people included).

]]> By: hawkgrrrl http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/26/shabbos-yom-tov-pesach-with-my-friend-sam/#comment-14010 hawkgrrrl Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:23:11 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=458#comment-14010 Rigel - looks like you're in! Rigel - looks like you’re in!

]]> By: Rigel Hawthorne http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/26/shabbos-yom-tov-pesach-with-my-friend-sam/#comment-14009 Rigel Hawthorne Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:20:45 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=458#comment-14009 I enjoyed reading about this experience. My attempts to post have lately been thwarted, so I will keep it short and see if this one makes it. I enjoyed reading about this experience. My attempts to post have lately been thwarted, so I will keep it short and see if this one makes it.

]]> By: Jeff Spector http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/26/shabbos-yom-tov-pesach-with-my-friend-sam/#comment-13995 Jeff Spector Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:18:26 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=458#comment-13995 It is pretty normal in the Jewish culture to have questions. With questions (maybe, you can call them doubts) come answers. The entire Torah Commentary, The Talmud is made up of questions and answers. Sometimes heated discussions and disagreement. In fact, many Christians mistake the confrontations with Jesus by various Pharisees, scribes and whatnot in the Gospel as this strange, challenging, disrespectful behavior. I see it as pretty normal behavior and part of the process of determining what one believes and how they arrived at that belief. I think that Jello brand is Kosher, but not all "gelatins" are, in fact. Many are derived from pork products. Steve, Glad you had a great experience! It is pretty normal in the Jewish culture to have questions. With questions (maybe, you can call them doubts) come answers. The entire Torah Commentary, The Talmud is made up of questions and answers. Sometimes heated discussions and disagreement.

In fact, many Christians mistake the confrontations with Jesus by various Pharisees, scribes and whatnot in the Gospel as this strange, challenging, disrespectful behavior. I see it as pretty normal behavior and part of the process of determining what one believes and how they arrived at that belief.

I think that Jello brand is Kosher, but not all “gelatins” are, in fact. Many are derived from pork products.

Steve,

Glad you had a great experience!

]]> By: Banana http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/26/shabbos-yom-tov-pesach-with-my-friend-sam/#comment-13908 Banana Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:01:05 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=458#comment-13908 I wish that more people were as accepting of the Jewish faith as you are. Yasher Koach, and Shabbat Shalom from California!!! I wish that more people were as accepting of the Jewish faith as you are. Yasher Koach, and Shabbat Shalom from California!!!

]]> By: cj douglass http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/26/shabbos-yom-tov-pesach-with-my-friend-sam/#comment-13901 cj douglass Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:12:55 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=458#comment-13901 Thanks for the story Stephen. I also met some Messianic Jews while attending my last Branch in the heart of hasidic Brooklyn. They would just walk into our meetings and start participating - then leave. Like you, I found it surprisingly comforting to meet people so devout in their faith and culture but still inwardly doubting and questioning. Thanks for the story Stephen. I also met some Messianic Jews while attending my last Branch in the heart of hasidic Brooklyn. They would just walk into our meetings and start participating - then leave. Like you, I found it surprisingly comforting to meet people so devout in their faith and culture but still inwardly doubting and questioning.

]]> By: Jared http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/26/shabbos-yom-tov-pesach-with-my-friend-sam/#comment-13900 Jared Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:08:53 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=458#comment-13900 I don't think having "doubts" is necessary, could it be a choice? I don't know the answer, just wondering out loud. Interesting post. I don’t think having “doubts” is necessary, could it be a choice? I don’t know the answer, just wondering out loud.

Interesting post.

]]> By: AdamF http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/26/shabbos-yom-tov-pesach-with-my-friend-sam/#comment-13899 AdamF Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:55:18 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=458#comment-13899 Thanks for the post Stephen. I appreciate the multicultural perspective. Thanks for the post Stephen. I appreciate the multicultural perspective.

]]> By: hawkgrrrl http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/26/shabbos-yom-tov-pesach-with-my-friend-sam/#comment-13898 hawkgrrrl Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:26:51 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=458#comment-13898 No dessert during the main meal? Bummer! Although judging from Mormon family reunions, I think jello may be considered more of a side dish than a dessert. No dessert during the main meal? Bummer! Although judging from Mormon family reunions, I think jello may be considered more of a side dish than a dessert.

]]> By: Ray http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/26/shabbos-yom-tov-pesach-with-my-friend-sam/#comment-13886 Ray Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:30:12 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=458#comment-13886 Wonderful, Stephen. Shabbat Shalom. Wonderful, Stephen. Shabbat Shalom.

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