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		<title>By: Theoryrelativity</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-158834</link>
		<dc:creator>Theoryrelativity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;ve discontinued the Oakland Temple Pageant (based on how much time it was taking from the youth over the summer months?)... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ve discontinued the Oakland Temple Pageant (based on how much time it was taking from the youth over the summer months?)&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Mike S</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-98497</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 03:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like all these activities and generally miss many of them.  Life is busy enough without feeling like there is yet one more thing you are expected to attend to &quot;support&quot; the person who put all the work into planning it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like all these activities and generally miss many of them.  Life is busy enough without feeling like there is yet one more thing you are expected to attend to &#8220;support&#8221; the person who put all the work into planning it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D.</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-90143</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other thing - in my area at least wards used to be much larger, which made staffing such activities much more practical than it is now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other thing &#8211; in my area at least wards used to be much larger, which made staffing such activities much more practical than it is now.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D.</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-90142</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last downtrend in Church activities seemed to coincide with the end of independent ward budget contributions in 1990.  That lowered the financial burden on members, but also reduced the budget many wards (and especially stakes) had to spend on activities.  In my stake YMYW and Primary activities continued more or less as normal, but whole-ward activities became relatively rare.

The direction on this appears to have reversed four or five years ago, i.e. the direction to local units has been to have more rather than less activities than they were recently having.  Whether this direction comes with additional ward budget allocations, I don&#039;t know.

The most notable activity that I miss is ward campouts like we had during the 1970s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last downtrend in Church activities seemed to coincide with the end of independent ward budget contributions in 1990.  That lowered the financial burden on members, but also reduced the budget many wards (and especially stakes) had to spend on activities.  In my stake YMYW and Primary activities continued more or less as normal, but whole-ward activities became relatively rare.</p>
<p>The direction on this appears to have reversed four or five years ago, i.e. the direction to local units has been to have more rather than less activities than they were recently having.  Whether this direction comes with additional ward budget allocations, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>The most notable activity that I miss is ward campouts like we had during the 1970s.</p>
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		<title>By: JCP in CA</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-48283</link>
		<dc:creator>JCP in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have very fond memories of writing, choreographing and acting in our ward road show. Itself was a much smaller production than the one my parents were in.

The church is more focused on growing the church in other ways: building temples, growing the church in places like South America and funding the massive humanitarian machine we&#039;ve become known for. 

I want to see the list of things we&#039;re doing better now that the adults aren&#039;t spending their week nights and Saturdays putting on events and shuttling around teenagers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have very fond memories of writing, choreographing and acting in our ward road show. Itself was a much smaller production than the one my parents were in.</p>
<p>The church is more focused on growing the church in other ways: building temples, growing the church in places like South America and funding the massive humanitarian machine we&#8217;ve become known for. </p>
<p>I want to see the list of things we&#8217;re doing better now that the adults aren&#8217;t spending their week nights and Saturdays putting on events and shuttling around teenagers.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-26094</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a ward activities chairperson (yet again), I too miss planning and putting on these big events.  There is just less support than when I was a kid.  Our ward is very spread out (gone are the years of 4 city blocks = your ward boundaries).  We have instituted a monthly &quot;linger-longer&quot; after church.  Everyone brings a potluck item - we have done themes too -- and enveryone helps pull the tables out and we have a big &quot;ward family dinner&quot;.  SInce many of our ward members drive over an hour to get to the meeting house, this si great becasue then they (we) don&#039;t have to listen to whiny hungry kids for the entire drive.  We have been able to increase ward unity and now that the committe and I are introducing more activiites, many people are turning out and bringing their friends.
Regardingthe comment about donig missionary work instead of ward activites -- the activity can be the best missionary tool there is.  My mother investigated the church based on being invited to participate in a roadshow in Ohio in 1962.  Hmmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a ward activities chairperson (yet again), I too miss planning and putting on these big events.  There is just less support than when I was a kid.  Our ward is very spread out (gone are the years of 4 city blocks = your ward boundaries).  We have instituted a monthly &#8220;linger-longer&#8221; after church.  Everyone brings a potluck item &#8211; we have done themes too &#8212; and enveryone helps pull the tables out and we have a big &#8220;ward family dinner&#8221;.  SInce many of our ward members drive over an hour to get to the meeting house, this si great becasue then they (we) don&#8217;t have to listen to whiny hungry kids for the entire drive.  We have been able to increase ward unity and now that the committe and I are introducing more activiites, many people are turning out and bringing their friends.<br />
Regardingthe comment about donig missionary work instead of ward activites &#8212; the activity can be the best missionary tool there is.  My mother investigated the church based on being invited to participate in a roadshow in Ohio in 1962.  Hmmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-21653</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember all the activies mentioned and loved all of them.  As the recently sustained Ward acitivities chairperson I am looking to bring these back in a small way.  Because our ward covers a huge about of miles it is difficult for the whole ward to have an activity so we are looking at having &quot;pod parties&quot; for the specific areas and then maybe a whole ward party 3 times a year or more if we can.  But I agree with several comments about there isn&#039;t enough socializing in the wards --- I grew up where everyone really did a lot at church ---- not just Sunday</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember all the activies mentioned and loved all of them.  As the recently sustained Ward acitivities chairperson I am looking to bring these back in a small way.  Because our ward covers a huge about of miles it is difficult for the whole ward to have an activity so we are looking at having &#8220;pod parties&#8221; for the specific areas and then maybe a whole ward party 3 times a year or more if we can.  But I agree with several comments about there isn&#8217;t enough socializing in the wards &#8212; I grew up where everyone really did a lot at church &#8212;- not just Sunday</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Spector</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-21125</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Spector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My observation is that church members generally like associating with one another. Especially in more remote areas and where the Church is a small, small minority of the overall population. I suppose the church figures as we give more time back to the family, they can decide for themselves if they want to spend time with other families. but, i totally agree wit Nora Ray #52, new converts NEED to socialize with members to be fully integrated and to see the &quot;regular life&quot; of a member. I miss much of that social experience these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My observation is that church members generally like associating with one another. Especially in more remote areas and where the Church is a small, small minority of the overall population. I suppose the church figures as we give more time back to the family, they can decide for themselves if they want to spend time with other families. but, i totally agree wit Nora Ray #52, new converts NEED to socialize with members to be fully integrated and to see the &#8220;regular life&#8221; of a member. I miss much of that social experience these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-21013</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Even though the gospel is true and that is what matters, it is hard to keep converts who are used to a more church centered social life than we now have.&quot;  

Do you realize how ironic that is, given how much we get criticized for &quot;cultish&quot; behavior based on how much time we spend with each other?  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Even though the gospel is true and that is what matters, it is hard to keep converts who are used to a more church centered social life than we now have.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Do you realize how ironic that is, given how much we get criticized for &#8220;cultish&#8221; behavior based on how much time we spend with each other?  <img src='http://mormonmatters.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nora Ray</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-20970</link>
		<dc:creator>Nora Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out here where I am, we have 5 churches within 6 blocks of our house and none of them are LDS.  They have concerts, chicken bbqs, bag sales, pancake breakfasts, carnivals, car shows and many other things, all as fundraisers.  Even though the gospel is true and that is what matters, it is hard to keep converts who are used to a more church centered social life than we now have.  And our long time members seem to be centering their social lives around kids dance recitals, baseball games and school plays, all of which may get in the way of regular seminary attendance and church sponsored mutual activities.

What to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out here where I am, we have 5 churches within 6 blocks of our house and none of them are LDS.  They have concerts, chicken bbqs, bag sales, pancake breakfasts, carnivals, car shows and many other things, all as fundraisers.  Even though the gospel is true and that is what matters, it is hard to keep converts who are used to a more church centered social life than we now have.  And our long time members seem to be centering their social lives around kids dance recitals, baseball games and school plays, all of which may get in the way of regular seminary attendance and church sponsored mutual activities.</p>
<p>What to do?</p>
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		<title>By: the bull</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-20927</link>
		<dc:creator>the bull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry bad math 12k</description>
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		<title>By: the bull</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-20926</link>
		<dc:creator>the bull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roadshow by far.   I pay 60k in tithing each year and yet the couch in the foyer is 50 years old stained with all matter of fluids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roadshow by far.   I pay 60k in tithing each year and yet the couch in the foyer is 50 years old stained with all matter of fluids.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-20672</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, how many goofs could I make in two sentences? Should be &quot;usually only one parent working.&quot;  And &quot;Where I grew up&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, how many goofs could I make in two sentences? Should be &#8220;usually only one parent working.&#8221;  And &#8220;Where I grew up&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-20568</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jjackson, I think that you&#039;re right that a lot of this could happen because there was usually one one parent working. Where I grew, frequently the dad was a farmer, so he could take time off too, if needed for a ball game or something like that. Also, usually a ward just included people whose kids attended the same schools, and that helped scheduling a lot. In my ward now, kids attend three different high school, and probably 5 or 6 elementary schools, so it&#039;s hard to work around school activities. At my elementary school, we walked next door to Primary, and then the school bus came late that day, and picked us all up after Primary and took us home on the regular route.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jjackson, I think that you&#8217;re right that a lot of this could happen because there was usually one one parent working. Where I grew, frequently the dad was a farmer, so he could take time off too, if needed for a ball game or something like that. Also, usually a ward just included people whose kids attended the same schools, and that helped scheduling a lot. In my ward now, kids attend three different high school, and probably 5 or 6 elementary schools, so it&#8217;s hard to work around school activities. At my elementary school, we walked next door to Primary, and then the school bus came late that day, and picked us all up after Primary and took us home on the regular route.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hamer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have some very fond memories of ward road shows.  The one I remember best was a play about salting highways --- a very Minnesotan theme.  All the players were cars complaining about rust and salt was initially viewed as the villain.  (Spoiler alert): Of course, the cars realize that safety trumps rust and salt is ultimately redeemed in the cars&#039; eyes as a hero.  I drew many of the large carboard cartoons for the cars that we painted.  I think my mom still has two of them saved in her basement.  By the end in the 80s, I think road shows were a great creative outlet at a time when people generally weren&#039;t doing organized community or church plays much any more.

The next year we switched and made videos for the first time (1987).  The videos were terrible, but it was my first introduction to video directing and editing --- which I&#039;ve continued to do on and off, mostly for corporate clients lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some very fond memories of ward road shows.  The one I remember best was a play about salting highways &#8212; a very Minnesotan theme.  All the players were cars complaining about rust and salt was initially viewed as the villain.  (Spoiler alert): Of course, the cars realize that safety trumps rust and salt is ultimately redeemed in the cars&#8217; eyes as a hero.  I drew many of the large carboard cartoons for the cars that we painted.  I think my mom still has two of them saved in her basement.  By the end in the 80s, I think road shows were a great creative outlet at a time when people generally weren&#8217;t doing organized community or church plays much any more.</p>
<p>The next year we switched and made videos for the first time (1987).  The videos were terrible, but it was my first introduction to video directing and editing &#8212; which I&#8217;ve continued to do on and off, mostly for corporate clients lately.</p>
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		<title>By: jjackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>jjackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back when all of this stuff used to happen.....what percentage of families do you think only had one parent working at what was probably a 9-5, M-F type of job?  Did this have any impact on people&#039;s availability to run these things?

And BTW, while I do miss the sports stuff, I think it was a good move for the church in general to cut back on all of this.  Stakes and wards are free to plan activities, and many do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back when all of this stuff used to happen&#8230;..what percentage of families do you think only had one parent working at what was probably a 9-5, M-F type of job?  Did this have any impact on people&#8217;s availability to run these things?</p>
<p>And BTW, while I do miss the sports stuff, I think it was a good move for the church in general to cut back on all of this.  Stakes and wards are free to plan activities, and many do.</p>
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		<title>By: Rigel Hawthorne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rigel Hawthorne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although roadshows were fun, it was disheartening to see the same wards (with the most experienced leadership) consistently win, while the little wards farther in the sticks put forth an equally great effort that was technically inferior and not awarded because the leadership and youth talent pool was smaller.  

We had a short but successful run of &quot;Anything Goes&quot; activities for the stake youth where wards competed at the lighted high school football stadium in a number of absurd events.  I agree that it is good to know the other youth in the stake.  I miss the stake and regional volleyball tournaments that we used to have.  Our area stakes are just now trying to emphasize multi-stake young adult activities because the number of young adults sticking around the area are low in general and those who do stick around are frequently lost

I remember my mom&#039;s nostalgia for the days of the cultural refinement lessons where they studied &#039;The Scarlet Letter&#039;, sort of like a Relief Society book club.  I also recall a description of a stake quartet contest that sounded kinda cool.  My sister&#039;s Arizona ward recently had a girls camp fundraiser that was a Mexican dinner with auction of donated items, just like the old ward budget days.  She bought a computer that was auctioned off.  My jaw kind of dropped when I heard about it.  

I also miss those area conferences where you got to go to your nearest University or community sports arena and hear the General Authorities and Apostles speak.  It was fun to see the masses of LDS gather.  (I know in Utah this is a common occurrence, but its not so in other states).  I don&#039;t think, honestly, I would miss it enough to drive 2-3 hours necessarily to attend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although roadshows were fun, it was disheartening to see the same wards (with the most experienced leadership) consistently win, while the little wards farther in the sticks put forth an equally great effort that was technically inferior and not awarded because the leadership and youth talent pool was smaller.  </p>
<p>We had a short but successful run of &#8220;Anything Goes&#8221; activities for the stake youth where wards competed at the lighted high school football stadium in a number of absurd events.  I agree that it is good to know the other youth in the stake.  I miss the stake and regional volleyball tournaments that we used to have.  Our area stakes are just now trying to emphasize multi-stake young adult activities because the number of young adults sticking around the area are low in general and those who do stick around are frequently lost</p>
<p>I remember my mom&#8217;s nostalgia for the days of the cultural refinement lessons where they studied &#8216;The Scarlet Letter&#8217;, sort of like a Relief Society book club.  I also recall a description of a stake quartet contest that sounded kinda cool.  My sister&#8217;s Arizona ward recently had a girls camp fundraiser that was a Mexican dinner with auction of donated items, just like the old ward budget days.  She bought a computer that was auctioned off.  My jaw kind of dropped when I heard about it.  </p>
<p>I also miss those area conferences where you got to go to your nearest University or community sports arena and hear the General Authorities and Apostles speak.  It was fun to see the masses of LDS gather.  (I know in Utah this is a common occurrence, but its not so in other states).  I don&#8217;t think, honestly, I would miss it enough to drive 2-3 hours necessarily to attend.</p>
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		<title>By: hawkgrrrl</title>
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		<dc:creator>hawkgrrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, though, that cutting the enrichment (formerly known as homemaking) back to once per quarter vs. monthly was truly inspired!

Oh, and I like trunk or treat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, though, that cutting the enrichment (formerly known as homemaking) back to once per quarter vs. monthly was truly inspired!</p>
<p>Oh, and I like trunk or treat.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Spector</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Spector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paula,

&quot;When was Know Your Religion officially stopped?&quot;  While I don&#039;t wish to get into a back and forth on this issue :) , I think it was 2004 that it was eliminated. But i found that something has taken it&#039;s place, so to speak.....

http://ce.byu.edu/ed/arc.cfm if you don&#039;t live in Utah, too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paula,</p>
<p>&#8220;When was Know Your Religion officially stopped?&#8221;  While I don&#8217;t wish to get into a back and forth on this issue <img src='http://mormonmatters.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  , I think it was 2004 that it was eliminated. But i found that something has taken it&#8217;s place, so to speak&#8230;..</p>
<p><a href="http://ce.byu.edu/ed/arc.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://ce.byu.edu/ed/arc.cfm</a> if you don&#8217;t live in Utah, too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Larsen</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-20451</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19 -- our ward still does the 4th of July breakfast every year.  Good times.

#36 -- I just back from accompanying our Stake youth on a trek.  We were rained out, and only hiked 2 miles before turning around and calling the whole thing of.

As I&#039;ve written &lt;a href=&quot;http://burningbosom.wordpress.com/2008/03/09/a-night-at-the-ward-auction-aka-bargain-shopping-for-a-firedancer&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;other places&lt;/a&gt;, what I miss our annual ward fundraisers, such a ward auctions.  These were always a blast as a kid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19 &#8212; our ward still does the 4th of July breakfast every year.  Good times.</p>
<p>#36 &#8212; I just back from accompanying our Stake youth on a trek.  We were rained out, and only hiked 2 miles before turning around and calling the whole thing of.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve written <a href="http://burningbosom.wordpress.com/2008/03/09/a-night-at-the-ward-auction-aka-bargain-shopping-for-a-firedancer" rel="nofollow">other places</a>, what I miss our annual ward fundraisers, such a ward auctions.  These were always a blast as a kid.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-20450</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When was Know Your Religion officially stopped?</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Spector</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-20442</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Spector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always found Know Your religion to be &quot;hit or miss.&quot;  One sister in our Ward called it &quot;Know Your Psychology&quot; since many of the topics were about &#039;dealing with things&#039; more than Gospel Doctrine. but, it was a great time to go with a group of members and socialize either before or after sharing a meal or desert.

Living in the SF Bay Area, we were lucky because KYR was going on about three weekends a month somewhere. You could conceivable go to 6 different ones within a 2 1/2 hour drive.  I know that that allowed us to go see my favorites when they came to town.  Most were CES and BYU types who are considered some of the foremost scholars of the Church. If they worked for CES, you know they needed the extra money! But a lot of them spent a lot of time away from their families, so that probably had a lot to do with the discontinuance. They tried using local speakers but they were never as popular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always found Know Your religion to be &#8220;hit or miss.&#8221;  One sister in our Ward called it &#8220;Know Your Psychology&#8221; since many of the topics were about &#8216;dealing with things&#8217; more than Gospel Doctrine. but, it was a great time to go with a group of members and socialize either before or after sharing a meal or desert.</p>
<p>Living in the SF Bay Area, we were lucky because KYR was going on about three weekends a month somewhere. You could conceivable go to 6 different ones within a 2 1/2 hour drive.  I know that that allowed us to go see my favorites when they came to town.  Most were CES and BYU types who are considered some of the foremost scholars of the Church. If they worked for CES, you know they needed the extra money! But a lot of them spent a lot of time away from their families, so that probably had a lot to do with the discontinuance. They tried using local speakers but they were never as popular.</p>
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		<title>By: AHLDuke</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-20438</link>
		<dc:creator>AHLDuke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t say that I miss Know Your Religion since it wasn&#039;t around by the time I joined, but based on what passes for gospel knowledge these days, I can say that many of my co-religionists are &quot;missing&quot; it.

For that matter, all of these things were long gone by the time I joined the church (1999) so I can&#039;t say I technically miss any of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t say that I miss Know Your Religion since it wasn&#8217;t around by the time I joined, but based on what passes for gospel knowledge these days, I can say that many of my co-religionists are &#8220;missing&#8221; it.</p>
<p>For that matter, all of these things were long gone by the time I joined the church (1999) so I can&#8217;t say I technically miss any of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Just for Quix</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-20432</link>
		<dc:creator>Just for Quix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michaela (32): I agree that &quot;missionary work&quot; is a good motive. I wish, though, that such &quot;missionary work&quot; activities more often became authentic outgrowth of service or genuine faith practice/enjoyment rather than contrived spiritual/emotional experiences or loaded with ulterior motives intended to create proselytizing opportunities. 

Paula (37): I loved weekday Primary, too. Singing songs, doing activities and programs that had no overt doctrinal emphasis. It was more a reflection that primary was our extended family, not a preachy nor &quot;churchy&quot; place. It was a place that young friends of other faiths would join me for fun, and their parents didn&#039;t mind it at all. I agree with you that kids need time (at church) to just be kids. What changed Doctrine is so over-extracted into pearls of life-application that kids, ironically, don&#039;t actually grow up knowing the scriptures all that well, nor do they often grow to appreciate that faith can take forms other than what makes for good testimony-bearing sound bites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michaela (32): I agree that &#8220;missionary work&#8221; is a good motive. I wish, though, that such &#8220;missionary work&#8221; activities more often became authentic outgrowth of service or genuine faith practice/enjoyment rather than contrived spiritual/emotional experiences or loaded with ulterior motives intended to create proselytizing opportunities. </p>
<p>Paula (37): I loved weekday Primary, too. Singing songs, doing activities and programs that had no overt doctrinal emphasis. It was more a reflection that primary was our extended family, not a preachy nor &#8220;churchy&#8221; place. It was a place that young friends of other faiths would join me for fun, and their parents didn&#8217;t mind it at all. I agree with you that kids need time (at church) to just be kids. What changed Doctrine is so over-extracted into pearls of life-application that kids, ironically, don&#8217;t actually grow up knowing the scriptures all that well, nor do they often grow to appreciate that faith can take forms other than what makes for good testimony-bearing sound bites.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/06/24/which-church-activities-do-you-miss/#comment-20431</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I know what else I loved-- weekday Primary. It was actually fun, since it wasn&#039;t on Sunday, and was especially fun in the summer.  We&#039;d make little replicas of Bethlehem with salt-flour clay over milk cartons, and do crafts, play games, and sing songs that weren&#039;t all religious. Kids need some bonding time with other kids, not just a total overt emphasis on religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I know what else I loved&#8211; weekday Primary. It was actually fun, since it wasn&#8217;t on Sunday, and was especially fun in the summer.  We&#8217;d make little replicas of Bethlehem with salt-flour clay over milk cartons, and do crafts, play games, and sing songs that weren&#8217;t all religious. Kids need some bonding time with other kids, not just a total overt emphasis on religion.</p>
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