Comments on: Ralph Nader in Utah http://mormonmatters.org/2008/07/26/ralph-nader-in-utah/ A weekly podcast exploring Mormon culture and current events. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:18:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: ThomasB http://mormonmatters.org/2008/07/26/ralph-nader-in-utah/#comment-27016 ThomasB Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:14:46 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=775#comment-27016 Elections are not horse races my friends. There are several astute candidates from third parties. I will be voting for one of them. I would suggest you do some research and do the same. Elections are not horse races my friends. There are several astute candidates from third parties. I will be voting for one of them. I would suggest you do some research and do the same.

]]> By: Stephen Wellington http://mormonmatters.org/2008/07/26/ralph-nader-in-utah/#comment-26250 Stephen Wellington Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:37:54 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=775#comment-26250 Sorry guys...I tried to edit my comment but for some reason I am unable too. Here is an awesome commentary on Nader and Obama. http://youtube.com/watch?v=PN0JDCIVQnY And an excerpt which I liked from a recent Raw Story (http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Nader_Democrats_are_political_slaves_Obama_0728.html ) "What is your answer to people, including myself, who believe that the votes you get will take away from the Democratic party and ensure McCain wins?" asked the woman during Nader's Q&A with the press. "People who say that a vote for you is a vote for McCain." Nader grew tense, and his response to the woman was abrupt. "Madam, do you think I'm a second-class citizen?" he asked. "I'd like for you to answer my question," said the woman. "No, because that question implies that somehow I am less equal in running for election than two crooked politicians in Washington," he said. "You are a political bigot, wittingly or unwittingly." It was during his speech, and after the press conference, that Nader said progressives who will vote for Obama as the "least worst candidate" are actually trapped in "political slavery." Indeed...I agree that those who believe that we must vote for the least worst candidate between the Democrats and Republicans show signs of the planned corporate "political slavery" that the US has been encompassed by. Sorry guys…I tried to edit my comment but for some reason I am unable too.

Here is an awesome commentary on Nader and Obama.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PN0JDCIVQnY

And an excerpt which I liked from a recent Raw Story

(http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Nader_Democrats_are_political_slaves_Obama_0728.html )

“What is your answer to people, including myself, who believe that the votes you get will take away from the Democratic party and ensure McCain wins?” asked the woman during Nader’s Q&A with the press. “People who say that a vote for you is a vote for McCain.”

Nader grew tense, and his response to the woman was abrupt. “Madam, do you think I’m a second-class citizen?” he asked.

“I’d like for you to answer my question,” said the woman.

“No, because that question implies that somehow I am less equal in running for election than two crooked politicians in Washington,” he said. “You are a political bigot, wittingly or unwittingly.”

It was during his speech, and after the press conference, that Nader said progressives who will vote for Obama as the “least worst candidate” are actually trapped in “political slavery.”

Indeed…I agree that those who believe that we must vote for the least worst candidate between the Democrats and Republicans show signs of the planned corporate “political slavery” that the US has been encompassed by.

]]> By: Stephen Wellington http://mormonmatters.org/2008/07/26/ralph-nader-in-utah/#comment-26249 Stephen Wellington Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:30:34 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=775#comment-26249 By: Martin Willey http://mormonmatters.org/2008/07/26/ralph-nader-in-utah/#comment-25875 Martin Willey Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:40:14 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=775#comment-25875 As a Mormon and disciple of Christ, is it worng for me to say that Ralph Nader is a has-been spoiler? As a Mormon and disciple of Christ, is it worng for me to say that Ralph Nader is a has-been spoiler?

]]> By: Jeff Spector http://mormonmatters.org/2008/07/26/ralph-nader-in-utah/#comment-25751 Jeff Spector Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:16:34 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=775#comment-25751 Ralph Nader? - The Harold Stassen of our day? As Stephen M stated he got George Bush elected twice. Good job helping the country on that one! What has he really done? Oh, he saved us from the Corvair. Old news. it is a shame we do not have any viable alternatives to the two candidates, one of whom will be elected Preisdent. But Ralph Nader? Let's be serious. Ralph Nader? – The Harold Stassen of our day? As Stephen M stated he got George Bush elected twice. Good job helping the country on that one! What has he really done? Oh, he saved us from the Corvair. Old news. it is a shame we do not have any viable alternatives to the two candidates, one of whom will be elected Preisdent. But Ralph Nader? Let’s be serious.

]]> By: Stephen Wellington http://mormonmatters.org/2008/07/26/ralph-nader-in-utah/#comment-25677 Stephen Wellington Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:52:49 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=775#comment-25677 There is some great Brigham Young quotes on the environment in Hugh Nibley's book Approaching Zion Here is the link: http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/bookschapter.php?bookid=49&chapid=302 He was way ahead of his time and if Latter Day Saints really adhered to his teachings on the Environment we would be the "greenest" people in the world. There is some great Brigham Young quotes on the environment in Hugh Nibley’s book Approaching Zion

Here is the link:

http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/bookschapter.php?bookid=49&chapid=302

He was way ahead of his time and if Latter Day Saints really adhered to his teachings on the Environment we would be the “greenest” people in the world.

]]> By: Stephen M (Ethesis) http://mormonmatters.org/2008/07/26/ralph-nader-in-utah/#comment-25672 Stephen M (Ethesis) Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:22:46 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=775#comment-25672 It is tempting to ask what more could you ask of Nader than he got George Bush elected twice? Many believe that he managed to put Al Gore down in flames, and believe he should be credited with the net improvement in the environment that defeating Gore created. I'm not sure how this is a particularly Mormon issue, though Robert Redford has a great presentation quoting Brigham Young and other early church leaders that Redford uses in addressing the environment in Utah that would make a great post tying in LDS and Nader-like issues. Or we could talk Gene Jacob's legacy in Utah. We used to talk about him as a lone Democrat in the Garden of Utah ... There are some rich topics here. I hope this is a springboard to discussing them and not a mere political rally notice. It is tempting to ask what more could you ask of Nader than he got George Bush elected twice? Many believe that he managed to put Al Gore down in flames, and believe he should be credited with the net improvement in the environment that defeating Gore created.

I’m not sure how this is a particularly Mormon issue, though Robert Redford has a great presentation quoting Brigham Young and other early church leaders that Redford uses in addressing the environment in Utah that would make a great post tying in LDS and Nader-like issues.

Or we could talk Gene Jacob’s legacy in Utah. We used to talk about him as a lone Democrat in the Garden of Utah …

There are some rich topics here. I hope this is a springboard to discussing them and not a mere political rally notice.

]]> By: Stephen Wellington http://mormonmatters.org/2008/07/26/ralph-nader-in-utah/#comment-25589 Stephen Wellington Sun, 27 Jul 2008 01:05:26 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=775#comment-25589 I must support John's petition and Ashley Sander's political efforts. Ralph Nader is the only non-corporate candidate who has policies that focus on what is best for the people of the United States. Candidates like him make me wish I was an American. He would get my vote. I wish I could be there John. You and Ash have it spot on with voting for Nader!!! Please everyone...lets get back our democracy. I must support John’s petition and Ashley Sander’s political efforts. Ralph Nader is the only non-corporate candidate who has policies that focus on what is best for the people of the United States.

Candidates like him make me wish I was an American. He would get my vote.

I wish I could be there John. You and Ash have it spot on with voting for Nader!!!

Please everyone…lets get back our democracy.

]]> By: AdamF http://mormonmatters.org/2008/07/26/ralph-nader-in-utah/#comment-25578 AdamF Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:36:45 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=775#comment-25578 Wish I could make it. I must confess I voted for Nader in 2000. Wish I could make it. I must confess I voted for Nader in 2000.

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