Comments on: The Sunstone Report http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/ A weekly podcast exploring Mormon culture and current events. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:18:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ray http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28750 Ray Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:56:25 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28750 Adam and Ayla, Last year, a woman in my stake mentioned on T&S hearing me speak in her ward - since I wrote a post that was similar to a talk I gave there. To this day, I don't know who that sister is. Next time I speak there, I'm thinking of saying something like, "If anyone in the congregation knows me from my on-line participation in the Bloggernacle, please let me know after the meeting" - but I doubt I will go through with it. Adam and Ayla, Last year, a woman in my stake mentioned on T&S hearing me speak in her ward – since I wrote a post that was similar to a talk I gave there. To this day, I don’t know who that sister is. Next time I speak there, I’m thinking of saying something like, “If anyone in the congregation knows me from my on-line participation in the Bloggernacle, please let me know after the meeting” – but I doubt I will go through with it.

]]> By: AdamF http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28748 AdamF Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:35:22 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28748 Hah! Will do! As we were driving by a few weeks ago I wondered about where your house was... It's funny meeting these people online and making semi-real life connections. Sometimes I wonder if there are people I talk to online in my ward, but just don't know it. Hah! Will do! As we were driving by a few weeks ago I wondered about where your house was… It’s funny meeting these people online and making semi-real life connections. Sometimes I wonder if there are people I talk to online in my ward, but just don’t know it.

]]> By: Ayla http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28739 Ayla Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:51:22 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28739 AdamF, let me know the next time you're goin' my way, I'll stand outside and wave LOL AdamF, let me know the next time you’re goin’ my way, I’ll stand outside and wave LOL

]]> By: John Nilsson http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28481 John Nilsson Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:14:09 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28481 I won't get into the details about the three levels of the celestial kingdom, but I will say that C. Jess Groesbeck's interpretation has something to do with the Holy Spirit of Promise...listen to the MP3! I won’t get into the details about the three levels of the celestial kingdom, but I will say that C. Jess Groesbeck’s interpretation has something to do with the Holy Spirit of Promise…listen to the MP3!

]]> By: Paula http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28461 Paula Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:49:18 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28461 One session from Sunstone is up, free: http://sunstoneblog.com/2008/08/14/session-173-mormon-motherhood-choice-or-destiny/ That one's posted because of the controversy over the Deseret News description of it. One session from Sunstone is up, free:
http://sunstoneblog.com/2008/08/14/session-173-mormon-motherhood-choice-or-destiny/

That one’s posted because of the controversy over the Deseret News description of it.

]]> By: Stephen M (Ethesis) http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28452 Stephen M (Ethesis) Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:14:11 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28452 My vacation this year took me a different direction, but I was glad of the report. My vacation this year took me a different direction, but I was glad of the report.

]]> By: Matt Thurston http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28429 Matt Thurston Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:03:57 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28429 I enjoyed meeting John Nilsson and others as well. Hope to see you all again next year, as well as more new people. I saw Ayla's blue hair bumpin' around the halls. Hopefully we can talk next year. I had conflicts during her sessions, but heard good things from others. I'll catch them on MP3. I missed Jess Groesbeck's session, but was intrigued by the description. I'll have to catch up with it on MP3 As for Ray's, "We know so little [about the afterlife], and yet we want to know so badly," I agree. One of my favorite sessions was the one given by Clifton Jolley, who in his typical funny/provocative way rambled on about how little we know about the next life. He talked about the Baptist ideas re the next life, the Mormon ideas etc. He speculated on afterlife gridlock. He talked about Islamic suicide bombers and their 72 virgins waiting in the next life. Wondered about the "hearsay" of Joseph Smith and others saying that if we knew what the Telestial Kingdom was like, we'd kill ourselves to get there. He was all over the place, and yet it made complete sense. I had a smile on my face the whole time. I enjoyed meeting John Nilsson and others as well. Hope to see you all again next year, as well as more new people. I saw Ayla’s blue hair bumpin’ around the halls. Hopefully we can talk next year. I had conflicts during her sessions, but heard good things from others. I’ll catch them on MP3.

I missed Jess Groesbeck’s session, but was intrigued by the description. I’ll have to catch up with it on MP3

As for Ray’s, “We know so little [about the afterlife], and yet we want to know so badly,” I agree. One of my favorite sessions was the one given by Clifton Jolley, who in his typical funny/provocative way rambled on about how little we know about the next life. He talked about the Baptist ideas re the next life, the Mormon ideas etc. He speculated on afterlife gridlock. He talked about Islamic suicide bombers and their 72 virgins waiting in the next life. Wondered about the “hearsay” of Joseph Smith and others saying that if we knew what the Telestial Kingdom was like, we’d kill ourselves to get there. He was all over the place, and yet it made complete sense. I had a smile on my face the whole time.

]]> By: Just for Quix http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28422 Just for Quix Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:04:31 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28422 Arthur (16): Ah, but could it be that the questions are more important than the answers? As Randy Alcorn, author of the influential "Heaven" said (paraphrased), "Discussions in Christian churches about the new heaven, new earth and new Jerusalem may be more a failure of hope and imagination than theology or even what is in the scriptural record." Arthur (16): Ah, but could it be that the questions are more important than the answers? As Randy Alcorn, author of the influential “Heaven” said (paraphrased), “Discussions in Christian churches about the new heaven, new earth and new Jerusalem may be more a failure of hope and imagination than theology or even what is in the scriptural record.”

]]> By: Shawn Larsen http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28405 Shawn Larsen Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:18:55 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28405 #9/16 -- search now longer, the "sealed potion" is available now, via the magic of the Internet :) http://www.sealedportion.com/ http://www.thesealedportion.com/ #9/16 — search now longer, the “sealed potion” is available now, via the magic of the Internet :)

http://www.sealedportion.com/
http://www.thesealedportion.com/

]]> By: Arthur http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28404 Arthur Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:54:40 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28404 #9, isn't it interesting how we operate? We've got thousands of pages of scripture, yet we're always seeking for the "sealed portion." I will say that "Mormonism" answers a heck of a lot more questions than any other major religion I've studied. If you think the qualifications for the second level of the Celestial Kingdom seem fuzzy, ask a group of Baptists what happens when you die... #9, isn’t it interesting how we operate? We’ve got thousands of pages of scripture, yet we’re always seeking for the “sealed portion.”

I will say that “Mormonism” answers a heck of a lot more questions than any other major religion I’ve studied. If you think the qualifications for the second level of the Celestial Kingdom seem fuzzy, ask a group of Baptists what happens when you die…

]]> By: Raoul http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28384 Raoul Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:25:09 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28384 Santa Claus -- "Yeah, share the wealth…" -- He must have been referring to the Satanic (a.k.a., "green") O.T.O. Alister-Crowley-inspired ritual "magick" they perform (or, at least, have speakers and panelists [a.k.a., "lecturers" and "scholars"] advocate) at Sunstone every year. If only they knew that all magic is fake and spelled with a "C"... Santa Claus — “Yeah, share the wealth…” — He must have been referring to the Satanic (a.k.a., “green”) O.T.O. Alister-Crowley-inspired ritual “magick” they perform (or, at least, have speakers and panelists [a.k.a., "lecturers" and "scholars"] advocate) at Sunstone every year. If only they knew that all magic is fake and spelled with a “C”…

]]> By: AdamF http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28345 AdamF Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:49:23 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28345 Ray, just so you know, :) apparently I drive by Ayla's house once or twice a year. Have done so for the past 25 years or so, unwittingly. Ray, just so you know, :) apparently I drive by Ayla’s house once or twice a year. Have done so for the past 25 years or so, unwittingly.

]]> By: Ray http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28343 Ray Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:19:00 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28343 Ayla, one of my dreams is to meet you some day. Just so you know. Ayla, one of my dreams is to meet you some day. Just so you know.

]]> By: Kevin Barney http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28328 Kevin Barney Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:13:58 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28328 Like you, I mainly go to see friends and meet people. The social aspects of Sunstone are my favorites. Like you, I mainly go to see friends and meet people. The social aspects of Sunstone are my favorites.

]]> By: Clay Whipkey http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28326 Clay Whipkey Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:58:51 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28326 Yowsa, conversation about my facial hair... slow news day? :eek: I am a wannabe beard wearer, but my beard is way too sparse, so I have the soul patch (or "flavor saver" as one of my 15 year-old SS students once called it). My wife likes it, so I guess that is all that matters. The funnest thing about Sunstone (my first time attending) was definitely the people. It was fun to meet so many folks in person. Yowsa, conversation about my facial hair… slow news day? :eek:

I am a wannabe beard wearer, but my beard is way too sparse, so I have the soul patch (or “flavor saver” as one of my 15 year-old SS students once called it). My wife likes it, so I guess that is all that matters.

The funnest thing about Sunstone (my first time attending) was definitely the people. It was fun to meet so many folks in person.

]]> By: Ayla http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28325 Ayla Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:56:31 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28325 I dont remember seeing you. I was the woman with the blue hair and two kids trailing behind me :) I dont remember seeing you. I was the woman with the blue hair and two kids trailing behind me :)

]]> By: Ray http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28315 Ray Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:53:53 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28315 Yeah, I look forward to the day when we actually will know about the afterlife and not have to rely on speculation. We know so little, and yet we want to know so badly. That's part of the need for faith, I guess. Yeah, I look forward to the day when we actually will know about the afterlife and not have to rely on speculation. We know so little, and yet we want to know so badly. That’s part of the need for faith, I guess.

]]> By: Just for Quix http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28311 Just for Quix Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:47:08 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28311 .... and where the Celestial B-Listers are neither procreating polygamous Gods and Goddesses nor servant angels ..... …. and where the Celestial B-Listers are neither procreating polygamous Gods and Goddesses nor servant angels …..

]]> By: Santa Claus http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28309 Santa Claus Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:29:33 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28309 "What is this celestial kingdom second level of which you speak?" Yeah, share the wealth..... :) “What is this celestial kingdom second level of which you speak?”

Yeah, share the wealth….. :)

]]> By: Bored in Vernal http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28306 Bored in Vernal Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:32:51 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28306 Clay's soul patch is adorable...why didn't I get a pic of that one? Dang. Clay’s soul patch is adorable…why didn’t I get a pic of that one? Dang.

]]> By: Raoul http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28302 Raoul Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:14:19 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28302 <blockquote>I learned the entrance requirement for the little-talked about second level of the celestial kingdom from Jess Groesbeck.</blockquote> What is this celestial kingdom second level of which you speak? It doesn't sound like you are talking about the Second Anointing... Is this related to the "Are there 3 degrees in the Celestial Kingdom?" question?

I learned the entrance requirement for the little-talked about second level of the celestial kingdom from Jess Groesbeck.

What is this celestial kingdom second level of which you speak? It doesn’t sound like you are talking about the Second Anointing… Is this related to the “Are there 3 degrees in the Celestial Kingdom?” question?

]]> By: seeker http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28297 seeker Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:42:16 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28297 God bless you, John, for the Sunstone Report! I had been wondering if Mormon Matters would get a Sunstone report and had despaired of it happening by this point. Your insights and observations are much appreciated. I hope others who had a chance to attend will chime in with their thoughts and/or recommendations as to superior presentations as well. God bless you, John, for the Sunstone Report! I had been wondering if Mormon Matters would get a Sunstone report and had despaired of it happening by this point. Your insights and observations are much appreciated. I hope others who had a chance to attend will chime in with their thoughts and/or recommendations as to superior presentations as well.

]]> By: Just for Quix http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28291 Just for Quix Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:38:45 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28291 And a soul patch is a lot less than a third of a Van Dyke, since a Van Dyke includes a mustache. I guess you could consider it a third of a facial Brazilian. ;-P I had only enough time to say hi to a few friends and participate in my session. It would have been cool to meet a few of ya I know from around here. And a soul patch is a lot less than a third of a Van Dyke, since a Van Dyke includes a mustache. I guess you could consider it a third of a facial Brazilian. ;-P

I had only enough time to say hi to a few friends and participate in my session. It would have been cool to meet a few of ya I know from around here.

]]> By: hawkgrrrl http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28290 hawkgrrrl Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:26:28 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28290 "modest tuft of hair under the lower lip (what is the proper term for that anyway, a third of a Van Dyke?)" I've always heard this called a "soul patch." Does that make Clay a beatnik? “modest tuft of hair under the lower lip (what is the proper term for that anyway, a third of a Van Dyke?)” I’ve always heard this called a “soul patch.” Does that make Clay a beatnik?

]]> By: AdamF http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/13/the-sunstone-report/#comment-28285 AdamF Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:58:55 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=932#comment-28285 Wish I could have made it... the flexible expenses of a grad student are meager. Perhaps I'll be living back in Utah next year. It would be great to meet all these people from the Internets. Wish I could have made it… the flexible expenses of a grad student are meager. Perhaps I’ll be living back in Utah next year. It would be great to meet all these people from the Internets.

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