Comments on: Deconstructing the Book of Mormon — the four things to never do http://mormonmatters.org/2008/10/06/deconstructing-the-book-of-mormon-the-four-things-to-never-do/ A weekly podcast exploring Mormon culture and current events. Wed, 23 May 2012 11:40:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: chanel online shop http://mormonmatters.org/2008/10/06/deconstructing-the-book-of-mormon-the-four-things-to-never-do/#comment-160298 chanel online shop Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:39:00 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=1900#comment-160298  A Chanel handbags outlet filled with a person's daily life, like Chanel handbags outlet will be a long time to use the classic cheap Chanel bags online but also even a collection of things.http://www.chanelonlineshoping.net/  A Chanel handbags outlet filled with a person’s daily life, like Chanel
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]]> By: Stephen M (Ethesis) http://mormonmatters.org/2008/10/06/deconstructing-the-book-of-mormon-the-four-things-to-never-do/#comment-39802 Stephen M (Ethesis) Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:51:57 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=1900#comment-39802 Too bad I missed: http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2008/09/30/fathers-are-just-irreplaceable-they-dont-need-to-preside-to-be-important/ until just now. I could have quoted from a talk I really liked (it was part of a set on tape I used to listen to while driving) where a guy has hauled his wife in to talk with a G.A. "tell her she has to do what I say because I have the priesthood." "She doesn't, and you don't." "What?!" "When you act that way, God withdraws from you." It goes on to apply D&C 121 to the issues, that having the priesthood has nothing to do with forcing or putting pressure on anyone, but more the serving with kindness and pure love. The call to preside is the call to serve and to wait. Kent's thoughts really bring the concept home. You just serve and wait. Too bad I missed:

http://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2008/09/30/fathers-are-just-irreplaceable-they-dont-need-to-preside-to-be-important/

until just now. I could have quoted from a talk I really liked (it was part of a set on tape I used to listen to while driving) where a guy has hauled his wife in to talk with a G.A. “tell her she has to do what I say because I have the priesthood.” “She doesn’t, and you don’t.” “What?!” “When you act that way, God withdraws from you.”

It goes on to apply D&C 121 to the issues, that having the priesthood has nothing to do with forcing or putting pressure on anyone, but more the serving with kindness and pure love. The call to preside is the call to serve and to wait.

Kent’s thoughts really bring the concept home. You just serve and wait.

]]> By: Ray http://mormonmatters.org/2008/10/06/deconstructing-the-book-of-mormon-the-four-things-to-never-do/#comment-39730 Ray Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:57:45 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=1900#comment-39730 I really liked this post, Stephen. Kent, your comment made me think. I really like this sentence: "It often comes down to the idea that God commands and waits until he is obeyed." It really made my head snap back, and when I shared it with my wife her reaction was visible and physical. Thanks. I really liked this post, Stephen.

Kent, your comment made me think. I really like this sentence:

“It often comes down to the idea that God commands and waits until he is obeyed.”

It really made my head snap back, and when I shared it with my wife her reaction was visible and physical. Thanks.

]]> By: Stephen M (Ethesis) http://mormonmatters.org/2008/10/06/deconstructing-the-book-of-mormon-the-four-things-to-never-do/#comment-39706 Stephen M (Ethesis) Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:33:58 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=1900#comment-39706 Kent, that reminds me of a poem that is at: http://adrr.com/living/water.htm Kent, that reminds me of a poem that is at:

http://adrr.com/living/water.htm

]]> By: Kent (MC) http://mormonmatters.org/2008/10/06/deconstructing-the-book-of-mormon-the-four-things-to-never-do/#comment-39672 Kent (MC) Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:28:30 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=1900#comment-39672 This is truly at the heart of Mormon Theology. When discussing the nature of God with fellow Mormons I sometimes ask, "Why did it take billions of years for God to create the earth? Why not just millions of years, or even better, why not just one second?" It often comes down to the idea that God commands and waits until he is obeyed. Agency is the great principle of action and inaction in God's decisions and the respect of another's agency is embodied in the principles you mentioned. If only I remembered this counsel better (using meekness and love unfeigned) my children would have a better father. This is truly at the heart of Mormon Theology. When discussing the nature of God with fellow Mormons I sometimes ask, “Why did it take billions of years for God to create the earth? Why not just millions of years, or even better, why not just one second?” It often comes down to the idea that God commands and waits until he is obeyed. Agency is the great principle of action and inaction in God’s decisions and the respect of another’s agency is embodied in the principles you mentioned. If only I remembered this counsel better (using meekness and love unfeigned) my children would have a better father.

]]> By: Stephen M (Ethesis) http://mormonmatters.org/2008/10/06/deconstructing-the-book-of-mormon-the-four-things-to-never-do/#comment-39664 Stephen M (Ethesis) Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:55:01 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=1900#comment-39664 Maybe I should have posted http://ethesis.blogspot.com/2008/10/some-personal-essays-talk.html at Mormon Matters and this one at my blog. Live and learn. Maybe I should have posted http://ethesis.blogspot.com/2008/10/some-personal-essays-talk.html at Mormon Matters and this one at my blog.

Live and learn.

]]> By: Stephen M (Ethesis) http://mormonmatters.org/2008/10/06/deconstructing-the-book-of-mormon-the-four-things-to-never-do/#comment-39663 Stephen M (Ethesis) Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:51:18 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=1900#comment-39663 I was expecting more comment, maybe some disagreement, maybe a comment about conference and the talk about lifting where you stand .... Especially with Clark's help (note the date -- this has been ready to go with that comment for a while) ... Ah well, maybe everyone agrees with one or the other of us. ;) I was expecting more comment, maybe some disagreement, maybe a comment about conference and the talk about lifting where you stand ….

Especially with Clark’s help (note the date — this has been ready to go with that comment for a while) …

Ah well, maybe everyone agrees with one or the other of us. ;)

]]> By: Stephen M (Ethesis) http://mormonmatters.org/2008/10/06/deconstructing-the-book-of-mormon-the-four-things-to-never-do/#comment-39631 Stephen M (Ethesis) Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:48:57 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=1900#comment-39631 Excellent point Clark, excellent point. Excellent point Clark, excellent point.

]]> By: Clark http://mormonmatters.org/2008/10/06/deconstructing-the-book-of-mormon-the-four-things-to-never-do/#comment-36467 Clark Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:29:57 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=1900#comment-36467 And to actually fit the term "deconstruct" read the above with this in the margin: Jude 1:3 <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/jude/1/3#3" rel="nofollow">Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.</a> Alma 43:47 <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/alma/43/14,36,47#14" rel="nofollow">And again, the Lord has said that: Ye shall defend your families even unto bloodshed. Therefore for this cause were the Nephites contending with the Lamanites, to defend themselves, and their families, and their lands, their country, and their rights, and their religion.</a> And to actually fit the term “deconstruct” read the above with this in the margin:

Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

Alma 43:47 And again, the Lord has said that: Ye shall defend your families even unto bloodshed. Therefore for this cause were the Nephites contending with the Lamanites, to defend themselves, and their families, and their lands, their country, and their rights, and their religion.

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