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	<title>Comments on: Annoying False Doctrines &#8212; the Series</title>
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		<title>By: spinal itchie</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-53547</link>
		<dc:creator>spinal itchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything on this page is False Doctrine.

Remember &quot;LET EVERY MAN BE A LIAR, and GODS WORD BE TRUTH&quot;.
There is only one God and one Bible.

Peace out !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything on this page is False Doctrine.</p>
<p>Remember &#8220;LET EVERY MAN BE A LIAR, and GODS WORD BE TRUTH&#8221;.<br />
There is only one God and one Bible.</p>
<p>Peace out !</p>
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		<title>By: Zen</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-51769</link>
		<dc:creator>Zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting... I have read at least 1 to 1.5 things here called false doctrine, that are not false. You might want to look a little closer before you condemn...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230; I have read at least 1 to 1.5 things here called false doctrine, that are not false. You might want to look a little closer before you condemn&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gwennaëlle</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-51493</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwennaëlle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True! But then they are taught as doctrines and don&#039;t you dare thinking out loud that things may have been a little different.
I had a great experience about placing people out of there comfort zone last sunday.
One of the counselor of the bishop wanted to set me up for a talk for each sunday next year while some other members just wanted to cut my head off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True! But then they are taught as doctrines and don&#8217;t you dare thinking out loud that things may have been a little different.<br />
I had a great experience about placing people out of there comfort zone last sunday.<br />
One of the counselor of the bishop wanted to set me up for a talk for each sunday next year while some other members just wanted to cut my head off.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-51239</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone thought that some of these false doctrines aren&#039;t really false doctrines but lack of understanding of real doctrines?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone thought that some of these false doctrines aren&#8217;t really false doctrines but lack of understanding of real doctrines?</p>
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		<title>By: Latter-day Guy</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50990</link>
		<dc:creator>Latter-day Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fun post. My personal least favorite: &quot;Jesus was always cheerful/happy.&quot; What the hell? Yeah, and he played hopscotch on the way to Golgotha... geez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fun post. My personal least favorite: &#8220;Jesus was always cheerful/happy.&#8221; What the hell? Yeah, and he played hopscotch on the way to Golgotha&#8230; geez.</p>
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		<title>By: No Way will I tell you my name</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50987</link>
		<dc:creator>No Way will I tell you my name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, many members have this myth that the Bishop is the one who can guide them through everything. No, bishops are not trained as Marriage counsellors,
                                           Financial counsellors,(this one is for you  Amused 
Dec 12th, 2008 at 12:19 am)  Bishops are spiritual leaders and as such can give spiritual counsel that may help in other matters like the ones already mentioned but get help from the right source, not aleways go to the Bishop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, many members have this myth that the Bishop is the one who can guide them through everything. No, bishops are not trained as Marriage counsellors,<br />
                                           Financial counsellors,(this one is for you  Amused<br />
Dec 12th, 2008 at 12:19 am)  Bishops are spiritual leaders and as such can give spiritual counsel that may help in other matters like the ones already mentioned but get help from the right source, not aleways go to the Bishop.</p>
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		<title>By: Ex-Member</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50984</link>
		<dc:creator>Ex-Member</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, heard that one before newbie, good point!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, heard that one before newbie, good point!</p>
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		<title>By: Newbie</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50849</link>
		<dc:creator>Newbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amongst all those false doctrines/myths is the one that you hear from some members that if you are wearing your garments you can&#039;t be hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amongst all those false doctrines/myths is the one that you hear from some members that if you are wearing your garments you can&#8217;t be hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwennaëlle</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50811</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwennaëlle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#71 :lol. There is a sister in my ward who has been diagnoticed with a brain tumor last week. This young a cute man going on a mission to California at the end of this month actually wrote to her on a card that if she has faith enough she will heal. I wanted to rip off his eye balls from his face but then I realized that it would just made him more blind and that he is just 19 after all. So I refrained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#71 :lol. There is a sister in my ward who has been diagnoticed with a brain tumor last week. This young a cute man going on a mission to California at the end of this month actually wrote to her on a card that if she has faith enough she will heal. I wanted to rip off his eye balls from his face but then I realized that it would just made him more blind and that he is just 19 after all. So I refrained.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bennion</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50809</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Bennion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to the Book of Mormon statement that the obedient will prosper in the land.  The obedient inherit the Celestial Kingdom.   So it IS true that they will finally and eternally &quot;prosper in the land&quot;.  If someone is thinking that the statement has reference to other &quot;prosperings&quot; they may find disappointment sooner or later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the Book of Mormon statement that the obedient will prosper in the land.  The obedient inherit the Celestial Kingdom.   So it IS true that they will finally and eternally &#8220;prosper in the land&#8221;.  If someone is thinking that the statement has reference to other &#8220;prosperings&#8221; they may find disappointment sooner or later.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50801</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 06:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Lionel Richie was Mormon, apparently, until he cheated on his wife.  I always thought that was funny - especially given the lyrics of at least a couple of his songs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Lionel Richie was Mormon, apparently, until he cheated on his wife.  I always thought that was funny &#8211; especially given the lyrics of at least a couple of his songs.</p>
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		<title>By: Mormon Heretic</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50797</link>
		<dc:creator>Mormon Heretic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has really been entertaining.  I can&#039;t believe that nobody has mentioned these, although they might more aptly be titled Mormon Mythology.

BYU is the Lord&#039;s University.

The Eurythmics song &quot;Missionary Man&quot; was because Dave Stewart met the missionaries.  Steve Martin, Lionel Richie, etc etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has really been entertaining.  I can&#8217;t believe that nobody has mentioned these, although they might more aptly be titled Mormon Mythology.</p>
<p>BYU is the Lord&#8217;s University.</p>
<p>The Eurythmics song &#8220;Missionary Man&#8221; was because Dave Stewart met the missionaries.  Steve Martin, Lionel Richie, etc etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50788</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#75 - LOL.</description>
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		<title>By: Tatiana</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50787</link>
		<dc:creator>Tatiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conclusion: Annoying false science is even more annoying than annoying false doctrines.  =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conclusion: Annoying false science is even more annoying than annoying false doctrines.  =)</p>
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		<title>By: Tatiana</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50786</link>
		<dc:creator>Tatiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think those studies are messed up.  Whenever people set about to study things like this, as evidenced by a long string of studies proving Asians and Africans inferior to Europeans in the 18th and 19th centuries, their biases so take over the science that little to no real truth can leak through.  Individual variation in every trait that is supposedly sexually dimorphic is so wide and overlap between men and women so great that it makes practically no sense to discuss &quot;the male brain&quot; or &quot;the female brain&quot; yet people still do it.  Always the conclusions bear out the stereotypes that society and the investigators want to believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think those studies are messed up.  Whenever people set about to study things like this, as evidenced by a long string of studies proving Asians and Africans inferior to Europeans in the 18th and 19th centuries, their biases so take over the science that little to no real truth can leak through.  Individual variation in every trait that is supposedly sexually dimorphic is so wide and overlap between men and women so great that it makes practically no sense to discuss &#8220;the male brain&#8221; or &#8220;the female brain&#8221; yet people still do it.  Always the conclusions bear out the stereotypes that society and the investigators want to believe.</p>
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		<title>By: CarlosJC</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50780</link>
		<dc:creator>CarlosJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35 http://bewareofthedoghouse.com/VideoPage.aspx

I always tell my wife that her mum is hot, as she will be when she&#039;s her age. That&#039;s ok, isn&#039;t it??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35 <a href="http://bewareofthedoghouse.com/VideoPage.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://bewareofthedoghouse.com/VideoPage.aspx</a></p>
<p>I always tell my wife that her mum is hot, as she will be when she&#8217;s her age. That&#8217;s ok, isn&#8217;t it??</p>
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		<title>By: hawkgrrrl</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50769</link>
		<dc:creator>hawkgrrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My DH&#039;s ex-GF said that on her mission in Italy one of the branches had a rule that women could not touch the sacrament tray.  The sister missionaries all worked together to ensure there was no alternative, positioning themselves at the end of the rows with no male hands in reach of the end of the aisle.  That ended that practice.  :)

KoTX - glad to hear you wouldn&#039;t say it to your wife!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My DH&#8217;s ex-GF said that on her mission in Italy one of the branches had a rule that women could not touch the sacrament tray.  The sister missionaries all worked together to ensure there was no alternative, positioning themselves at the end of the rows with no male hands in reach of the end of the aisle.  That ended that practice.  <img src='http://mormonmatters.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>KoTX &#8211; glad to hear you wouldn&#8217;t say it to your wife!</p>
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		<title>By: beckysoup61</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50768</link>
		<dc:creator>beckysoup61</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you pray hard enough, God will give you a baby.

If you have more faith, God will give you a baby.

Cannot tell you how many times I (an infertile woman) have heard that. 

It&#039;s freakin&#039; ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you pray hard enough, God will give you a baby.</p>
<p>If you have more faith, God will give you a baby.</p>
<p>Cannot tell you how many times I (an infertile woman) have heard that. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s freakin&#8217; ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: KingOfTexas</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50767</link>
		<dc:creator>KingOfTexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HawkGrrrl I deserve the doghouse, but I would never say that to my wife. 

The symmetry you are talking about is based on the Fibonacci Numbers and the Golden Section or Phi. http://goldennumber.net/beauty.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HawkGrrrl I deserve the doghouse, but I would never say that to my wife. </p>
<p>The symmetry you are talking about is based on the Fibonacci Numbers and the Golden Section or Phi. <a href="http://goldennumber.net/beauty.htm" rel="nofollow">http://goldennumber.net/beauty.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Holden Caulfield</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50748</link>
		<dc:creator>Holden Caulfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The best way to double your income is to double your fast offering&quot;

Of course not a doctrine but I heard an EQ President teach this in quorum as the most valuable lesson he learned on his mission from a companion of his.

Since I&#039;m an accountant, I spent the next little while in quorum meeting figuring out how many times I would have to double my contributions to make my income the size of our country&#039;s Gross National Product.  It wasn&#039;t very many years and my income wasn&#039;t very much......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The best way to double your income is to double your fast offering&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course not a doctrine but I heard an EQ President teach this in quorum as the most valuable lesson he learned on his mission from a companion of his.</p>
<p>Since I&#8217;m an accountant, I spent the next little while in quorum meeting figuring out how many times I would have to double my contributions to make my income the size of our country&#8217;s Gross National Product.  It wasn&#8217;t very many years and my income wasn&#8217;t very much&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gwennaëlle</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50746</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwennaëlle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#65 I have never seen the prayer thing being practiced in France. This would sound really weird to members if they were told that men should give the opening prayer in sacrament meeting.

I have been taught about half of the false doctrines I have read on there. This is mainly because: a) my mom was a single mom and very close to the missionaries age (who were all from large mormon families from Utah). b) My mom loved to hang out with people who just worshiped the sacred soil of Utah and held as holly any b*llsh*t as long as it was divine words coming from a member in SLC.

Anyway, one that has not been mentioned here and that may be a very french thing:
&quot;You can lead a perfect life but if you sin just before you die you won&#039;t get exalted (talk about pressure!)&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#65 I have never seen the prayer thing being practiced in France. This would sound really weird to members if they were told that men should give the opening prayer in sacrament meeting.</p>
<p>I have been taught about half of the false doctrines I have read on there. This is mainly because: a) my mom was a single mom and very close to the missionaries age (who were all from large mormon families from Utah). b) My mom loved to hang out with people who just worshiped the sacred soil of Utah and held as holly any b*llsh*t as long as it was divine words coming from a member in SLC.</p>
<p>Anyway, one that has not been mentioned here and that may be a very french thing:<br />
&#8220;You can lead a perfect life but if you sin just before you die you won&#8217;t get exalted (talk about pressure!)&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kari</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50741</link>
		<dc:creator>Kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surprised that no one has brought up any &quot;doctrines&quot; related to polygyny/monogamy. Here are some of my favorites:

Marriage is between &lt;i&gt;one&lt;/i&gt; man and &lt;i&gt;one&lt;/i&gt; woman.

Plural marriage will lead to longer life and better health.

Monogamy was at the root of the fall of the Roman empire, and is responsible for abortion, infantacide, prostitution, and divorce.

Monogamy has always been the standard of the church.

Plural marriage is the only way to reach the highest exaltation.

The manifesto ended plural marriage.

I recognized that not all of these are currently held by members of the church. But they&#039;ve all been taught at some point in the history of the church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised that no one has brought up any &#8220;doctrines&#8221; related to polygyny/monogamy. Here are some of my favorites:</p>
<p>Marriage is between <i>one</i> man and <i>one</i> woman.</p>
<p>Plural marriage will lead to longer life and better health.</p>
<p>Monogamy was at the root of the fall of the Roman empire, and is responsible for abortion, infantacide, prostitution, and divorce.</p>
<p>Monogamy has always been the standard of the church.</p>
<p>Plural marriage is the only way to reach the highest exaltation.</p>
<p>The manifesto ended plural marriage.</p>
<p>I recognized that not all of these are currently held by members of the church. But they&#8217;ve all been taught at some point in the history of the church.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Man Ron</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50733</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Man Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tatiana and hawkgrrl - I agree that my list is appalling, but as hawkgrrl pointed out, some studies show these results.  If we remain natural men and women, we will act consistent with these studies.  I am troubled, however, by many of the folk doctrines in this post that suggest that our material success, be it the hotness of our wife or the size of our car in the temple parking lot, is a reflection of our inner faith and spiritual qualities.  This is often suggested even by our leaders.  “The Lord has demonstrated throughout the generations that when the inhabitants of the earth remember him and are obedient to his direction, he will bless them not only with spiritual blessings, but with material abundance as well.”  Dean L. Larson, President of the Seventy, Ensign, November 1992, p. 40.  Because of these statements and some of the discussions of the pride cycle in Book of Mormon, many LDS members seem to be social or spiritual Darwinists who believe that prosperity is a result and a proof of being the most spiritually fit and deserving.  Moreover, poverty and suffering is a reflection of sin.  Thus, the hotness of our wife and the size of our car and our house are tokens and signs of our worthiness.

Of course, as the Book of Mormon makes clear, when we ascribe to ourselves a righteousness because of our wealth or success, we move into the another part of the pride cycle. “The people of the church began to wax proud, because of their exceeding riches, and their fine silks, and their fine-twined linen, and because of their many flocks and herds, and their gold and their silver, and all manner of precious things, which they had obtained by their industry; and in all these things were they lifted up in the pride of their eyes.”  Alma 4:6.  The real problem seems to be, not that these folk doctrines are true or false, but that we believe they are true and act in accordance with this belief rather than viewing ourselves as “less than the dust of the earth.”  Mosiah 4:2; Hel. 12:7.

One other thing, if I add Tatiana list of “intelligence, kindliness, courage, energy, faithfulness, work ethic, humor, strength, fortitude” to the definition of hotness, my wife is super-hot -- but I am still a slacker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tatiana and hawkgrrl &#8211; I agree that my list is appalling, but as hawkgrrl pointed out, some studies show these results.  If we remain natural men and women, we will act consistent with these studies.  I am troubled, however, by many of the folk doctrines in this post that suggest that our material success, be it the hotness of our wife or the size of our car in the temple parking lot, is a reflection of our inner faith and spiritual qualities.  This is often suggested even by our leaders.  “The Lord has demonstrated throughout the generations that when the inhabitants of the earth remember him and are obedient to his direction, he will bless them not only with spiritual blessings, but with material abundance as well.”  Dean L. Larson, President of the Seventy, Ensign, November 1992, p. 40.  Because of these statements and some of the discussions of the pride cycle in Book of Mormon, many LDS members seem to be social or spiritual Darwinists who believe that prosperity is a result and a proof of being the most spiritually fit and deserving.  Moreover, poverty and suffering is a reflection of sin.  Thus, the hotness of our wife and the size of our car and our house are tokens and signs of our worthiness.</p>
<p>Of course, as the Book of Mormon makes clear, when we ascribe to ourselves a righteousness because of our wealth or success, we move into the another part of the pride cycle. “The people of the church began to wax proud, because of their exceeding riches, and their fine silks, and their fine-twined linen, and because of their many flocks and herds, and their gold and their silver, and all manner of precious things, which they had obtained by their industry; and in all these things were they lifted up in the pride of their eyes.”  Alma 4:6.  The real problem seems to be, not that these folk doctrines are true or false, but that we believe they are true and act in accordance with this belief rather than viewing ourselves as “less than the dust of the earth.”  Mosiah 4:2; Hel. 12:7.</p>
<p>One other thing, if I add Tatiana list of “intelligence, kindliness, courage, energy, faithfulness, work ethic, humor, strength, fortitude” to the definition of hotness, my wife is super-hot &#8212; but I am still a slacker.</p>
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		<title>By: CarlosJC</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hawkrrrl,

&quot;Speaking as one of the hot wives who was also a damn fine missionary, I don’t think I ever heard this bit of false doctrine&quot; 

They just never tell the ladies about that one! 

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Some of the points here aren&#039;t doctrines but just policies and practices. For example the white shirts, no beards for bishops and men doing the first prayer in sacrament are things the authorities push as unwritten rules but not scripture based gospel doctrine. I don&#039;t know why, maybe they want uniformity across the church. 

Another is the asking the husband for a calling for the wife but not the other way around. But its good management practice due to some men objecting to another man interviewing their wife without him knowing why, some don&#039;t care off course or [better] trust their wife but one comes across husbands in church who do object. So its always smarter to mention that one will interview the wife for a calling in primary or whatever to gauge what the husband will do, if he will support her or be annoyed and make his entire family inactive. 

When a man is called bishop or other highly visible calling you can be sure that the wife will be consulted too and permission sought but it usually doesn&#039;t happen for quorum callings or other auxiliary callings, true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hawkrrrl,</p>
<p>&#8220;Speaking as one of the hot wives who was also a damn fine missionary, I don’t think I ever heard this bit of false doctrine&#8221; </p>
<p>They just never tell the ladies about that one! </p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Some of the points here aren&#8217;t doctrines but just policies and practices. For example the white shirts, no beards for bishops and men doing the first prayer in sacrament are things the authorities push as unwritten rules but not scripture based gospel doctrine. I don&#8217;t know why, maybe they want uniformity across the church. </p>
<p>Another is the asking the husband for a calling for the wife but not the other way around. But its good management practice due to some men objecting to another man interviewing their wife without him knowing why, some don&#8217;t care off course or [better] trust their wife but one comes across husbands in church who do object. So its always smarter to mention that one will interview the wife for a calling in primary or whatever to gauge what the husband will do, if he will support her or be annoyed and make his entire family inactive. </p>
<p>When a man is called bishop or other highly visible calling you can be sure that the wife will be consulted too and permission sought but it usually doesn&#8217;t happen for quorum callings or other auxiliary callings, true.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/12/10/annoying-false-doctrines-the-series/#comment-50700</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#63 - How did I overlook that one?  Paying tithing is NOT a guarantee of no financial worries or stress or need for assistance.  Ooh, I hate that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#63 &#8211; How did I overlook that one?  Paying tithing is NOT a guarantee of no financial worries or stress or need for assistance.  Ooh, I hate that one.</p>
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