Comments on: Go to Church or Die! http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/02/go-to-church-or-die/ A weekly podcast exploring Mormon culture and current events. Wed, 23 May 2012 18:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: tiredmormon http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/02/go-to-church-or-die/#comment-60617 tiredmormon Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:48:14 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=4262#comment-60617 Hawkgirl, I love you. That is all. Hawkgirl, I love you. That is all.

]]> By: MH http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/02/go-to-church-or-die/#comment-60565 MH Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:32:32 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=4262#comment-60565 Teacher, The prayer study I heard was from "Focus on the Family" (I believe). I've done a fair amount of study on protestant rhetoric, and have found that many of them present material in a way similar to LDS seminary teachers. So, it is definitely not uniquely Mormon trait. Protestants, Catholics, Jews Buddhists, and Muslims all will welcome scientific research that supports their point of view. Of course, I remember getting a Watchtower pamphlet which said that AIDS was God's punishment for blood transfusions. At the time, it definitely supported their world view. If there was a study showing Catholics lived shorter lives, I'm sure all the other denominations would proudly trumpet this fact. Of course, we're all aware of studies which show a correlation between Mormons and depression, and we're all trying to find ways to show that the study is flawed somehow. Teacher,

The prayer study I heard was from “Focus on the Family” (I believe). I’ve done a fair amount of study on protestant rhetoric, and have found that many of them present material in a way similar to LDS seminary teachers. So, it is definitely not uniquely Mormon trait. Protestants, Catholics, Jews Buddhists, and Muslims all will welcome scientific research that supports their point of view. Of course, I remember getting a Watchtower pamphlet which said that AIDS was God’s punishment for blood transfusions. At the time, it definitely supported their world view.

If there was a study showing Catholics lived shorter lives, I’m sure all the other denominations would proudly trumpet this fact. Of course, we’re all aware of studies which show a correlation between Mormons and depression, and we’re all trying to find ways to show that the study is flawed somehow.

]]> By: CatherineWO http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/02/go-to-church-or-die/#comment-60562 CatherineWO Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:04:39 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=4262#comment-60562 I had to laugh when I saw the title of your post. For me it should read "Go to church AND die." I have chemical sensitivities and church is a very toxic place for me. Even though our stake has established fragrance-free guidelines for all buildings, many members ignore them. After two life-threatening reactions in three weeks time last February, I finally quit going. I know many other members with the same problem. I guess we are the exceptions. I had to laugh when I saw the title of your post. For me it should read “Go to church AND die.” I have chemical sensitivities and church is a very toxic place for me. Even though our stake has established fragrance-free guidelines for all buildings, many members ignore them. After two life-threatening reactions in three weeks time last February, I finally quit going. I know many other members with the same problem. I guess we are the exceptions.

]]> By: The Teacher http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/02/go-to-church-or-die/#comment-60545 The Teacher Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:29:15 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=4262#comment-60545 Recognizing that these studies and analyses talk in terms of statistical health/longevity benefits without "guarantees" for any particular individual, I think an interesting question is why we seem to put so much stock in them. We Mormons really seem to look to them for validation. You see this in spades on medical research relating to the WOW (although recent studies on red wine and coffee admittedly aren't stacking up). Is the validation we feel from these studies justified? Do other faith groups do the same thing (I assume they do)? If studies showed that participating in a religion had a detrimental effect, what would we think? Recognizing that these studies and analyses talk in terms of statistical health/longevity benefits without “guarantees” for any particular individual, I think an interesting question is why we seem to put so much stock in them. We Mormons really seem to look to them for validation. You see this in spades on medical research relating to the WOW (although recent studies on red wine and coffee admittedly aren’t stacking up). Is the validation we feel from these studies justified? Do other faith groups do the same thing (I assume they do)? If studies showed that participating in a religion had a detrimental effect, what would we think?

]]> By: hawkgrrrl http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/02/go-to-church-or-die/#comment-60524 hawkgrrrl Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:58:38 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=4262#comment-60524 N - "Re: funeral potatoes - nope, I’ve had funeral potatoes at every funeral luncheon I’ve been to regardless of denomination. they are truly an ecumenical food." Really? I never had them until I was in Utah. I thought they were some weird kind of potato salad. Although since then I've had something at Cracker Barrel that is almost the same. tiredmormon: "So you’ll live 2-3 years longer, but going to church every week means that 2-3 years of it will be spent sitting through it. No thanks." That reminds me of the study that dog owners live longer. But of course, the extra year is spent with your hand in an inverted grocery bag picking up dog poop. N – “Re: funeral potatoes – nope, I’ve had funeral potatoes at every funeral luncheon I’ve been to regardless of denomination. they are truly an ecumenical food.” Really? I never had them until I was in Utah. I thought they were some weird kind of potato salad. Although since then I’ve had something at Cracker Barrel that is almost the same.

tiredmormon: “So you’ll live 2-3 years longer, but going to church every week means that 2-3 years of it will be spent sitting through it. No thanks.” That reminds me of the study that dog owners live longer. But of course, the extra year is spent with your hand in an inverted grocery bag picking up dog poop.

]]> By: N. http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/02/go-to-church-or-die/#comment-60508 N. Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:36:52 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=4262#comment-60508 unique to mormonism? Re: stress - ask a catholic stockbroker how much stress s/he has currently Re: funeral potatoes - nope, I've had funeral potatoes at every funeral luncheon I've been to regardless of denomination. they are truly an ecumenical food. unique to mormonism?
Re: stress – ask a catholic stockbroker how much stress s/he has currently
Re: funeral potatoes – nope, I’ve had funeral potatoes at every funeral luncheon I’ve been to regardless of denomination. they are truly an ecumenical food.

]]> By: tiredmormon http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/02/go-to-church-or-die/#comment-60486 tiredmormon Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:30:51 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=4262#comment-60486 So you'll live 2-3 years longer, but going to church every week means that 2-3 years of it will be spent sitting through it. No thanks. So you’ll live 2-3 years longer, but going to church every week means that 2-3 years of it will be spent sitting through it. No thanks.

]]> By: Jeff Spector http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/02/go-to-church-or-die/#comment-60483 Jeff Spector Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:11:56 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=4262#comment-60483 This is different than " If you don't get up and get ready for Church, I'll kill you." Isn't it? This is different than ” If you don’t get up and get ready for Church, I’ll kill you.” Isn’t it?

]]> By: Stephen M (Ethesis) http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/02/go-to-church-or-die/#comment-60475 Stephen M (Ethesis) Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:35:00 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=4262#comment-60475 Had not thought about funeral potatoes as a down side to the faith. I had a complex lipid panel run and they don't seem to have done me any harm. Had not thought about funeral potatoes as a down side to the faith. I had a complex lipid panel run and they don’t seem to have done me any harm.

]]> By: Anonymous http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/02/go-to-church-or-die/#comment-60458 Anonymous Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:52:07 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=4262#comment-60458 <strong>Mom Blogs - Blogs for Moms...</strong> ... Mom Blogs – Blogs for Moms…

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]]> By: MH http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/02/go-to-church-or-die/#comment-60445 MH Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:27:31 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=4262#comment-60445 I swear I heard a study that divided patients into 3 camps. One camp had prayers by others and knew about it. Another had prayers by others and didn't know about it. The 3rd group had no prayers. It seems to me that the first 2 groups had better survival. Of course, I don't have the reference.... I love the dog and boy praying photo! I swear I heard a study that divided patients into 3 camps. One camp had prayers by others and knew about it. Another had prayers by others and didn’t know about it. The 3rd group had no prayers. It seems to me that the first 2 groups had better survival. Of course, I don’t have the reference….

I love the dog and boy praying photo!

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