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	<title>Comments on: Faith and Logic: Finding and Navigating an Individual Balance</title>
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		<title>By: Cory</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/03/faith-and-logic-finding-and-navigating-an-individual-balance/#comment-91514</link>
		<dc:creator>Cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Joe P for emphasizing the stark contrast between David approach of understanding and love, and the less divinely inspired &quot;haughtiness poorly masquerading as concern&quot; approach. I think it has enhanced out appreciation for David&#039;s comments and our admiration for his and his girlfriend&#039;s ability continue to view each other as children of the same God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Joe P for emphasizing the stark contrast between David approach of understanding and love, and the less divinely inspired &#8220;haughtiness poorly masquerading as concern&#8221; approach. I think it has enhanced out appreciation for David&#8217;s comments and our admiration for his and his girlfriend&#8217;s ability continue to view each other as children of the same God.</p>
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		<title>By: sextubeguy</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/03/faith-and-logic-finding-and-navigating-an-individual-balance/#comment-62836</link>
		<dc:creator>sextubeguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amazing stuff thanx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amazing stuff thanx</p>
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		<title>By: hawkgrrrl</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/03/faith-and-logic-finding-and-navigating-an-individual-balance/#comment-60781</link>
		<dc:creator>hawkgrrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great thoughts, David.  Thanks for adding to the conversation here.  I can see why 3 of our nation&#039;s presidents came from Disciples of Christ.

The approach outlined above for missionary work, is in fact the sanctioned approach.  It&#039;s just that there are too many individuals who lose sight of that.  The mission of the church is to invite people to come to Christ.  But, again, too many people miss that mark and shoot for the three-fold committees:  &quot;redeem the dead, proclaim the gospel, perfect the saints.&quot;  But the mission is still to invite people to come to Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thoughts, David.  Thanks for adding to the conversation here.  I can see why 3 of our nation&#8217;s presidents came from Disciples of Christ.</p>
<p>The approach outlined above for missionary work, is in fact the sanctioned approach.  It&#8217;s just that there are too many individuals who lose sight of that.  The mission of the church is to invite people to come to Christ.  But, again, too many people miss that mark and shoot for the three-fold committees:  &#8220;redeem the dead, proclaim the gospel, perfect the saints.&#8221;  But the mission is still to invite people to come to Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David

I&#039;m continually impressed by your willingness to color outside the lines.  I appreciate your inclusive views.  They&#039;re refreshing in a world that spends too much energy trying to find reasons to exclude and condemn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David</p>
<p>I&#8217;m continually impressed by your willingness to color outside the lines.  I appreciate your inclusive views.  They&#8217;re refreshing in a world that spends too much energy trying to find reasons to exclude and condemn.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie Langston</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/03/faith-and-logic-finding-and-navigating-an-individual-balance/#comment-60708</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie Langston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 06:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this wonderful post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this wonderful post.</p>
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		<title>By: MH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David I love the last paragraph, especially how you talk about how logic should be used.  &lt;i&gt;&quot;I don’t think belief renders logic useless or irrelevant in the religious quest. I also don’t think logic should be the final arbiter of religion. Instead, I think logic should be seen as one tool in the human quest for understanding.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Too many people fall off of this tightrope, as it can be difficult to navigate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David I love the last paragraph, especially how you talk about how logic should be used.  <i>&#8220;I don’t think belief renders logic useless or irrelevant in the religious quest. I also don’t think logic should be the final arbiter of religion. Instead, I think logic should be seen as one tool in the human quest for understanding.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Too many people fall off of this tightrope, as it can be difficult to navigate.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/03/faith-and-logic-finding-and-navigating-an-individual-balance/#comment-60632</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>

&lt;blockquote&gt;The bottom line for me (for now anyway) is that I have to hold to my convictions while honoring the right of others to hold theirs.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;


I absolutely LOVE this sentence.  Another friend said it this way: 


&lt;blockquote&gt;I must act to glorify the Father, and I must extend to you unending grace as you walk your own path.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The bottom line for me (for now anyway) is that I have to hold to my convictions while honoring the right of others to hold theirs.  </p></blockquote>
<p>I absolutely LOVE this sentence.  Another friend said it this way: </p>
<blockquote><p>I must act to glorify the Father, and I must extend to you unending grace as you walk your own path.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Aboz</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/03/faith-and-logic-finding-and-navigating-an-individual-balance/#comment-60631</link>
		<dc:creator>Aboz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say:  &quot;A common response to this state of affairs from within the “restored” churches is that the people who stayed Catholic or Presbyterian or whatever are either mistaken or, less charitably, rebellious.&quot;

The problem with this type of assumption in mormonism or other &quot;restoration&quot; branches, is the fact that we are led to believe from a statement from Orson F. Whitney that God intentionally keeps people blind so that they can perform his work where he has put them, which happens to be OUTSIDE the Church.  Somewhere in the scriptures it says God will give them a strong delusion.  So how do we know that God hasn&#039;t given us all a &quot;delusion&quot; to be where he wants us to be to perform our work?  This essentially puts the responsibility for people&#039;s lot in life whether they have accepted the Gospel or not on God.  And it also makes it clear that we cannot judge why God has put somebody where he has put them, or why he has given them the particular delusion he has given them so they will be the way they will be.  And in saying delusion, I don&#039;t mean that he gives them something false to believe.  I mean that he withholds a measure of truth from them, not leading them to Mormonism immediately.  So if God isn&#039;t going to reveal to them the truth immediately, what light do they have to rebel against?  Therefore, they are not rebelling, but are OBEYING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say:  &#8220;A common response to this state of affairs from within the “restored” churches is that the people who stayed Catholic or Presbyterian or whatever are either mistaken or, less charitably, rebellious.&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem with this type of assumption in mormonism or other &#8220;restoration&#8221; branches, is the fact that we are led to believe from a statement from Orson F. Whitney that God intentionally keeps people blind so that they can perform his work where he has put them, which happens to be OUTSIDE the Church.  Somewhere in the scriptures it says God will give them a strong delusion.  So how do we know that God hasn&#8217;t given us all a &#8220;delusion&#8221; to be where he wants us to be to perform our work?  This essentially puts the responsibility for people&#8217;s lot in life whether they have accepted the Gospel or not on God.  And it also makes it clear that we cannot judge why God has put somebody where he has put them, or why he has given them the particular delusion he has given them so they will be the way they will be.  And in saying delusion, I don&#8217;t mean that he gives them something false to believe.  I mean that he withholds a measure of truth from them, not leading them to Mormonism immediately.  So if God isn&#8217;t going to reveal to them the truth immediately, what light do they have to rebel against?  Therefore, they are not rebelling, but are OBEYING.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Ainsworth</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/03/faith-and-logic-finding-and-navigating-an-individual-balance/#comment-60629</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Ainsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I much appreciate your thoughtful and well-written post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I much appreciate your thoughtful and well-written post.</p>
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		<title>By: CatherineWO</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/03/faith-and-logic-finding-and-navigating-an-individual-balance/#comment-60628</link>
		<dc:creator>CatherineWO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your thoughts reflect so much of what has been in my own recently. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your thoughts reflect so much of what has been in my own recently. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/03/faith-and-logic-finding-and-navigating-an-individual-balance/#comment-60626</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post was wonderful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post was wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe P</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/03/faith-and-logic-finding-and-navigating-an-individual-balance/#comment-60623</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.” Therefore come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you. I will be a Father to you, and you will be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty. 2 Corinthians 6:14-18

http://www.mrm.org/topics/marriage-family/being-unequally-yoked-a-latter-day-saint</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.” Therefore come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you. I will be a Father to you, and you will be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty. 2 Corinthians 6:14-18</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mrm.org/topics/marriage-family/being-unequally-yoked-a-latter-day-saint" rel="nofollow">http://www.mrm.org/topics/marriage-family/being-unequally-yoked-a-latter-day-saint</a></p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/03/faith-and-logic-finding-and-navigating-an-individual-balance/#comment-60613</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DAVID I think after reading your post most all of us would like visit your church. Or at a minimum have this read in Sacrament.

Were lucky to have you as a friend of our faith. 

(I am, BTW, not opposed to missionary activity. I just think it should take the form of invitation and development of thought and faith rather than, “I’ve got to convince you of this stuff.”)

Great approach we should take it on board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAVID I think after reading your post most all of us would like visit your church. Or at a minimum have this read in Sacrament.</p>
<p>Were lucky to have you as a friend of our faith. </p>
<p>(I am, BTW, not opposed to missionary activity. I just think it should take the form of invitation and development of thought and faith rather than, “I’ve got to convince you of this stuff.”)</p>
<p>Great approach we should take it on board.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug &#38; Laurel</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/03/faith-and-logic-finding-and-navigating-an-individual-balance/#comment-60610</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug &#38; Laurel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
I stumbled across your blog on LDS BLOGS.  I thought you mighe be interested in a site my wife and I just built called MormonsMadeSimple.com, which uses simple, explanatory videos to explain the Mormon faith.  Feel free to feature any of these videos on your blog, or just share them with non-member friends.  We&#039;re hoping these videos will be missionary tools to help members share their beliefs.  Anyway, sorry to spam your comments section.  I couldn&#039;t find any contact information for you on your blog.
 
- Doug &amp; Laurel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
I stumbled across your blog on LDS BLOGS.  I thought you mighe be interested in a site my wife and I just built called MormonsMadeSimple.com, which uses simple, explanatory videos to explain the Mormon faith.  Feel free to feature any of these videos on your blog, or just share them with non-member friends.  We&#8217;re hoping these videos will be missionary tools to help members share their beliefs.  Anyway, sorry to spam your comments section.  I couldn&#8217;t find any contact information for you on your blog.</p>
<p>- Doug &amp; Laurel</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m headed to bed, but I just want to say how much I love this post.  I&#039;ll try to comment further tomorrow (later today).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m headed to bed, but I just want to say how much I love this post.  I&#8217;ll try to comment further tomorrow (later today).</p>
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