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		<title>By: ubbalinda</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-71904</link>
		<dc:creator>ubbalinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been born of a Mormon mother and a Catholic father (raised in the Mormon religion until 11 yrs. of age when I finally confessed to my mother that I couldn&#039;t be a hypocrite any longer for the following reasons: 1.  The Mormon religion believe Blacks to be the cursed race of Cain (who slew Abel) and cannot be a member of the Melchizedek Priesthood until BYU had a serious basketball team. That&#039;s about it.  Anyway, watching Big Love&#039;s episode on going to the Mormon Temple with a false recommend from her sister blew me away.  My Mormon mother who lives with me now (she came to live with us when my father passed away 2 years ago) told me she never had a clue as to what to expect when one visits a Mormon Temple until she had my father sealed to her by Baptism of the Dead and obtained a Temple Recommend.  It&#039;s just that someone born and raised in Utah in the religion being told by her Heathen daughter what she saw in the temple was too much for her.  She was truly surprised that I knew as much as she did even though I left the church over 40 years ago.  I guess some things should be kept secret no matter what ie: mason&#039;s; Mormon temple&#039;s etc.

Thanks for letting me share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been born of a Mormon mother and a Catholic father (raised in the Mormon religion until 11 yrs. of age when I finally confessed to my mother that I couldn&#8217;t be a hypocrite any longer for the following reasons: 1.  The Mormon religion believe Blacks to be the cursed race of Cain (who slew Abel) and cannot be a member of the Melchizedek Priesthood until BYU had a serious basketball team. That&#8217;s about it.  Anyway, watching Big Love&#8217;s episode on going to the Mormon Temple with a false recommend from her sister blew me away.  My Mormon mother who lives with me now (she came to live with us when my father passed away 2 years ago) told me she never had a clue as to what to expect when one visits a Mormon Temple until she had my father sealed to her by Baptism of the Dead and obtained a Temple Recommend.  It&#8217;s just that someone born and raised in Utah in the religion being told by her Heathen daughter what she saw in the temple was too much for her.  She was truly surprised that I knew as much as she did even though I left the church over 40 years ago.  I guess some things should be kept secret no matter what ie: mason&#8217;s; Mormon temple&#8217;s etc.</p>
<p>Thanks for letting me share.</p>
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		<title>By: Hillary</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-70557</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 28 Julie

&quot;it’s Hollywood&quot; 

Please tell me this is a joke. Just Hollywood? Ok, maybe people of the church can make an educated  distinction (spelling?) between real practice and false. The thing is, those who don&#039;t know alot about it... don&#039;t know what to believe, what is real, what is &quot;hollywood&quot;. Watch a movie on any other religion. And sit and decide what&#039;s real, what&#039;s &quot;hollywood&quot;. Then talk to someone of that faith. Even if you get ONE thing wrong it changes the whole view of the religion. 

Satan never just flat out tells people false doctrine. He mixes it with the truth. If I tell you, Christ never lived, you won&#039;t believe me. There is way to much documintation (spelling?) to prove you other wise. but if I tell you, Christ wasn&#039;t the son of God, you&#039;re more likely to believe it, i&#039;m not saying he didn&#039;t live, i&#039;m telling you something slightly off. Satan works the same way. So does hollywood. It&#039;s for your &quot;enjoyment&quot;. 

&quot;The world is already laughing at us&quot;
.... So? what&#039;s wrong with that? People laughed at Enstien. People laughed at Joseph Smith. People laughed at Christ. Isn&#039;t it an honor to be in the same category?(spelling?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 28 Julie</p>
<p>&#8220;it’s Hollywood&#8221; </p>
<p>Please tell me this is a joke. Just Hollywood? Ok, maybe people of the church can make an educated  distinction (spelling?) between real practice and false. The thing is, those who don&#8217;t know alot about it&#8230; don&#8217;t know what to believe, what is real, what is &#8220;hollywood&#8221;. Watch a movie on any other religion. And sit and decide what&#8217;s real, what&#8217;s &#8220;hollywood&#8221;. Then talk to someone of that faith. Even if you get ONE thing wrong it changes the whole view of the religion. </p>
<p>Satan never just flat out tells people false doctrine. He mixes it with the truth. If I tell you, Christ never lived, you won&#8217;t believe me. There is way to much documintation (spelling?) to prove you other wise. but if I tell you, Christ wasn&#8217;t the son of God, you&#8217;re more likely to believe it, i&#8217;m not saying he didn&#8217;t live, i&#8217;m telling you something slightly off. Satan works the same way. So does hollywood. It&#8217;s for your &#8220;enjoyment&#8221;. </p>
<p>&#8220;The world is already laughing at us&#8221;<br />
&#8230;. So? what&#8217;s wrong with that? People laughed at Enstien. People laughed at Joseph Smith. People laughed at Christ. Isn&#8217;t it an honor to be in the same category?(spelling?)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-63828</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the time when temple sekritz are shouted from the rooftops (via T.V. antennae)?!

Hopefully HBO &amp; Tom Hanks can initiate their viewing audience into Mormon covenants by airing the initiatory washings and anointings...  The ultimate in proxy ritual!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the time when temple sekritz are shouted from the rooftops (via T.V. antennae)?!</p>
<p>Hopefully HBO &amp; Tom Hanks can initiate their viewing audience into Mormon covenants by airing the initiatory washings and anointings&#8230;  The ultimate in proxy ritual!</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-63825</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was searching the internet looking for previews of next season and I came across this site.  Wow I am astounded that in today&#039;s world there are still people who would believe in and follow such craziness!  And so many of you...Please know that each and every one of you will NEVER be able to follow all of your rules PERFECTLY so I would have to assume that your place of eternal life and happiness must be very lonely.  It is empty!  People- wake up and smell the coffee-this is humiliating.  The world is already laughing at us, do you have to fuel the fire?  I, for one, enjoy watching Big Love each week.  IT IS ENTERTAINING- nothing more.  That is what it is supposed to be.  Thank you Tom Hanks for giving us something to watch for an hour to help us relax before having to face another week of bad news!  Don&#039;t get your panties in such a wad, it&#039;s Hollywood.  And if you are so faithful and rock solid in your beliefs, what do you care what anyone else thinks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was searching the internet looking for previews of next season and I came across this site.  Wow I am astounded that in today&#8217;s world there are still people who would believe in and follow such craziness!  And so many of you&#8230;Please know that each and every one of you will NEVER be able to follow all of your rules PERFECTLY so I would have to assume that your place of eternal life and happiness must be very lonely.  It is empty!  People- wake up and smell the coffee-this is humiliating.  The world is already laughing at us, do you have to fuel the fire?  I, for one, enjoy watching Big Love each week.  IT IS ENTERTAINING- nothing more.  That is what it is supposed to be.  Thank you Tom Hanks for giving us something to watch for an hour to help us relax before having to face another week of bad news!  Don&#8217;t get your panties in such a wad, it&#8217;s Hollywood.  And if you are so faithful and rock solid in your beliefs, what do you care what anyone else thinks?</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-63693</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff #26,

Why? 

If no one there had a mormon backgroud, the show would make even less sense!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff #26,</p>
<p>Why? </p>
<p>If no one there had a mormon backgroud, the show would make even less sense!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-63310</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it surprising that no one brings up that one writer on the show has a large LDS background:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dustin_Lance_Black</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it surprising that no one brings up that one writer on the show has a large LDS background:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dustin_Lance_Black" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dustin_Lance_Black</a></p>
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		<title>By: CarlosJC</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-62928</link>
		<dc:creator>CarlosJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 05:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally got to see this episode, S03E09, and I can&#039;t see what all the fuss was about. Although I admit that I was a bit uncomfortable seeing the token on TV overall it was very well done and well presented with that extra white lighting and the catholic like choir music in the background-obviously added to give the impression of holiness. It certainly got the message across that it is a holy and sacred ceremony, albeit on TV. 

The mistakes were few, one the worker used the mallet the wrong way up and it was clear that Barb didn&#039;t have a recommend but got to borrow one from either her sister or mother, but then all three women were there in the celestial room together! Plus it is abundantly clear to all who see this episode that Barb and the polygamists are hiding from the church and when discovered they will face excommunication. Even that part is done respectfully, clearly showing that they ask politely and only after she confirms it do they move to hold a disciplinary council (albeit incorrectly stated that its the stake when for a women its done at the bishopric level) 

If anyone was poorly portrayed it that crazy sister of Barb who told the Bishop. She&#039;s about as good a relative as the unabomber&#039;s brother!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally got to see this episode, S03E09, and I can&#8217;t see what all the fuss was about. Although I admit that I was a bit uncomfortable seeing the token on TV overall it was very well done and well presented with that extra white lighting and the catholic like choir music in the background-obviously added to give the impression of holiness. It certainly got the message across that it is a holy and sacred ceremony, albeit on TV. </p>
<p>The mistakes were few, one the worker used the mallet the wrong way up and it was clear that Barb didn&#8217;t have a recommend but got to borrow one from either her sister or mother, but then all three women were there in the celestial room together! Plus it is abundantly clear to all who see this episode that Barb and the polygamists are hiding from the church and when discovered they will face excommunication. Even that part is done respectfully, clearly showing that they ask politely and only after she confirms it do they move to hold a disciplinary council (albeit incorrectly stated that its the stake when for a women its done at the bishopric level) </p>
<p>If anyone was poorly portrayed it that crazy sister of Barb who told the Bishop. She&#8217;s about as good a relative as the unabomber&#8217;s brother!</p>
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		<title>By: Clint Martin&#8217;s Blog &#187; &#8220;Big Love&#8221; Prompts A Change of Heart</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-62621</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint Martin&#8217;s Blog &#187; &#8220;Big Love&#8221; Prompts A Change of Heart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I got the first chain email expressing outrage over the portrayal of LDS temple ceremonies in the HBO series “Big Love”, my first reaction was, “well, Mormons, karma sure is a b****, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I got the first chain email expressing outrage over the portrayal of LDS temple ceremonies in the HBO series “Big Love”, my first reaction was, “well, Mormons, karma sure is a b****, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sunday in Outer Blogness: Big News Edition! &#124; Main Street Plaza</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-62603</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunday in Outer Blogness: Big News Edition! &#124; Main Street Plaza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Many waxed philosophical, asking why it&#8217;s a problem to portray the endowment, see here, here, here, here, here, and here. Some were inspired to contemplate some original tangents, see here and here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Many waxed philosophical, asking why it&#8217;s a problem to portray the endowment, see here, here, here, here, here, and here. Some were inspired to contemplate some original tangents, see here and here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: N.</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-62336</link>
		<dc:creator>N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OSC makes some good points about this subject:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/bmcl88&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Big Love? Big Deal&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OSC makes some good points about this subject:  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/bmcl88" rel="nofollow">Big Love? Big Deal</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Spring</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-62252</link>
		<dc:creator>Spring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may have some good outcomes. People will not be wondering what happens in the temple.  The FLDS Texas temple caused lots of negatives and misconceptions for everyone. Sacred does not have to be secret.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may have some good outcomes. People will not be wondering what happens in the temple.  The FLDS Texas temple caused lots of negatives and misconceptions for everyone. Sacred does not have to be secret.</p>
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		<title>By: teancum</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-62214</link>
		<dc:creator>teancum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rigel:  The first coworker who lifts up my clothing to check out my underwear gets reported to HR immediately!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rigel:  The first coworker who lifts up my clothing to check out my underwear gets reported to HR immediately!</p>
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		<title>By: Cowboy</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-61956</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>18 - Would you feel better if they had hired an active Mormon consultant, or if perhaps Bonneville had lended some of their assistance to the portrayal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>18 &#8211; Would you feel better if they had hired an active Mormon consultant, or if perhaps Bonneville had lended some of their assistance to the portrayal.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveS</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-61954</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The LDS backlash against portraying temple garb on HBO&#039;s Big Love has been tedious, but somewhat fascinating to me. I wonder how much of the outrage might be attributed to an underlying discomfort with the dissonance of our &quot;mainstream&quot; image we present to the world and the jarringly quirky accouterments we reserve for private, sacred spaces such as the temple. We&#039;ve told all our non-LDS friends about how normal we all are in the way we live and worship, but the picture of Jeanne Triplehorn in temple robes in TV Guide tells a different story in a snapshot. For most of us, it is hard to feel out of place in temple robes when everyone else around you is wearing them, but when they are portrayed to a wider audience, they _do_ look a bit ridiculous, even cult-like. Also, I&#039;m willing to bet that more than just a few of us feel like the temple robes are a bit silly, despite their obvious symbolic significance. Arguments that they resemble OT temple priesthood robes, or Masonic ritual costumes don&#039;t make the robes any less strange to the eyes of mainstream Americans. The fact remains, to anyone who sees the pic in TV Guide, or who watches Big Love on Sunday, those LDS people are one kooky bunch.

And so, we are once again a peculiar people. Is that such a bad thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The LDS backlash against portraying temple garb on HBO&#8217;s Big Love has been tedious, but somewhat fascinating to me. I wonder how much of the outrage might be attributed to an underlying discomfort with the dissonance of our &#8220;mainstream&#8221; image we present to the world and the jarringly quirky accouterments we reserve for private, sacred spaces such as the temple. We&#8217;ve told all our non-LDS friends about how normal we all are in the way we live and worship, but the picture of Jeanne Triplehorn in temple robes in TV Guide tells a different story in a snapshot. For most of us, it is hard to feel out of place in temple robes when everyone else around you is wearing them, but when they are portrayed to a wider audience, they _do_ look a bit ridiculous, even cult-like. Also, I&#8217;m willing to bet that more than just a few of us feel like the temple robes are a bit silly, despite their obvious symbolic significance. Arguments that they resemble OT temple priesthood robes, or Masonic ritual costumes don&#8217;t make the robes any less strange to the eyes of mainstream Americans. The fact remains, to anyone who sees the pic in TV Guide, or who watches Big Love on Sunday, those LDS people are one kooky bunch.</p>
<p>And so, we are once again a peculiar people. Is that such a bad thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Rigel Hawthorne</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-61944</link>
		<dc:creator>Rigel Hawthorne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have such a bad feeling about it, and I hope its not the disaster you are predicting.  We always say that temple ordinances are sacred, not secret.  I&#039;ve had friends go to the temple open houses and ask extensive questions about the clothing worn during the ceremony.  I&#039;ve had fellow medical professionals discuss the temple garment and literally lift up my scrubs one time to see the type of fabric they were made of.  There is a great degree of curiosity about this among friends in our community and if we knew how to discuss it without feeling awkward, then perhaps our friends wouldn&#039;t have to succumb to this voyeuristic presentation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have such a bad feeling about it, and I hope its not the disaster you are predicting.  We always say that temple ordinances are sacred, not secret.  I&#8217;ve had friends go to the temple open houses and ask extensive questions about the clothing worn during the ceremony.  I&#8217;ve had fellow medical professionals discuss the temple garment and literally lift up my scrubs one time to see the type of fabric they were made of.  There is a great degree of curiosity about this among friends in our community and if we knew how to discuss it without feeling awkward, then perhaps our friends wouldn&#8217;t have to succumb to this voyeuristic presentation.</p>
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		<title>By: Cicero</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-61935</link>
		<dc:creator>Cicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The words: &quot;I hired an ex-Mormon as a consultant to make sure we got it right&quot; somehow fails to comfort me...

Do we know who this consultant is?  Is he getting his information from the Tannerites or Deckerites?

I have a bad feeling about this- I think it may be the worst public relations disaster for the Church since the old days of Mormon villains in dimeback novels during the late 19th Century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The words: &#8220;I hired an ex-Mormon as a consultant to make sure we got it right&#8221; somehow fails to comfort me&#8230;</p>
<p>Do we know who this consultant is?  Is he getting his information from the Tannerites or Deckerites?</p>
<p>I have a bad feeling about this- I think it may be the worst public relations disaster for the Church since the old days of Mormon villains in dimeback novels during the late 19th Century.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron T.</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-61928</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a little surprised that the church seemed to be offended, or that it at least condoned its&#039; members &quot;choosing&quot; to be offended over this whole thing:

&quot;Certainly Church members are offended when their most sacred practices are misrepresented or presented without context or understanding.....&quot;

Perhaps we (including leaders of the church) should re-read Elder Bednar&#039;s October 2006 Conference Talk, &quot;And Nothing Shall Offend Them.&quot;  Said he:

&quot;When we believe or say we have been offended, we usually mean we feel insulted, mistreated, snubbed, or disrespected. And certainly clumsy, embarrassing, unprincipled, and mean-spirited things do occur in our interactions with other people that would allow us to take offense. However, it ultimately is impossible for another person to offend you or to offend me. Indeed, believing that another person offended us is fundamentally false. To be offended is a choice we make; it is not a condition inflicted or imposed upon us by someone or something else.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a little surprised that the church seemed to be offended, or that it at least condoned its&#8217; members &#8220;choosing&#8221; to be offended over this whole thing:</p>
<p>&#8220;Certainly Church members are offended when their most sacred practices are misrepresented or presented without context or understanding&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps we (including leaders of the church) should re-read Elder Bednar&#8217;s October 2006 Conference Talk, &#8220;And Nothing Shall Offend Them.&#8221;  Said he:</p>
<p>&#8220;When we believe or say we have been offended, we usually mean we feel insulted, mistreated, snubbed, or disrespected. And certainly clumsy, embarrassing, unprincipled, and mean-spirited things do occur in our interactions with other people that would allow us to take offense. However, it ultimately is impossible for another person to offend you or to offend me. Indeed, believing that another person offended us is fundamentally false. To be offended is a choice we make; it is not a condition inflicted or imposed upon us by someone or something else.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe his passion and integrety for Gay rights is more important than winning the hearts and minds of the mormons.

Remember the role he played in Philadelphia

Philadelphia (1993) Tom Hanks stars as

Andrew Beckett, a gay lawyer infected with AIDS, is fired from his conservative law firm in fear that they might contract AIDS from him. After Andrew is fired, in a last attempt for peace, he sues his former law firm with the help of a homophobic lawyer, Joe Miller. During the court battle, Miller sees that Beckett is no different than anyone else on the gritty streets of the city of brotherly love, sheds his homophobia and helps Beckett with his case before AIDS overcomes him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe his passion and integrety for Gay rights is more important than winning the hearts and minds of the mormons.</p>
<p>Remember the role he played in Philadelphia</p>
<p>Philadelphia (1993) Tom Hanks stars as</p>
<p>Andrew Beckett, a gay lawyer infected with AIDS, is fired from his conservative law firm in fear that they might contract AIDS from him. After Andrew is fired, in a last attempt for peace, he sues his former law firm with the help of a homophobic lawyer, Joe Miller. During the court battle, Miller sees that Beckett is no different than anyone else on the gritty streets of the city of brotherly love, sheds his homophobia and helps Beckett with his case before AIDS overcomes him.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Hunter</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-61869</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Working in TV and having worked for HBO on a series just last year, I may be able to give some input on the EP issue.  There are different levels of EPs some are involved in the day to day running of the show, and others are involved in structuring the initial deal and are never heard from again, although they do get dailies and cuts of each episode. I suspect that Tom Hanks is not involved in the daily running of Big Love because it must be a very very small part (financially and creatively speaking) of what his production company is up to.  For instance, any feature that he is a part of at any given moment is going to have much greater impact on the financial and creative success of his company. I&#039;ll guess that the TOTAL budget for a season of Big Love is 20mil or less. Where as on a feature Tom&#039;s OWN stake in it could be 40mi or more. That is a huge difference.

As for using a show to grind a personal axe, that sort of thinking might seem realistic on a Mormon blog but it does not address the reality of how shows work or are made.  A high level EP of a show makes a decision to trust the writers and the EPs who run the show, the scripts are written and approved by the network in advance and the ship sails from there. The job of coming up with scripts and story lines falls to specific individuals within the creative team, it would seriously compromise their integrity, their creative efforts and the integrity of the show to use the show as a tool for one individual&#039;s peeve.  This sort of thing matters a great deal to HBO as a network, and to the people who work on their shows. I know this from first hand experience. 

Finally it really is the ultimate in &quot;its all about us&quot; thinking to believe that Hanks even knows enough about Mormons that he would understand how to offend us by using the temple in an episode of the show. They guy works in Hollywood, he is way too busy to spend his time researching how to offend Mormons!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working in TV and having worked for HBO on a series just last year, I may be able to give some input on the EP issue.  There are different levels of EPs some are involved in the day to day running of the show, and others are involved in structuring the initial deal and are never heard from again, although they do get dailies and cuts of each episode. I suspect that Tom Hanks is not involved in the daily running of Big Love because it must be a very very small part (financially and creatively speaking) of what his production company is up to.  For instance, any feature that he is a part of at any given moment is going to have much greater impact on the financial and creative success of his company. I&#8217;ll guess that the TOTAL budget for a season of Big Love is 20mil or less. Where as on a feature Tom&#8217;s OWN stake in it could be 40mi or more. That is a huge difference.</p>
<p>As for using a show to grind a personal axe, that sort of thinking might seem realistic on a Mormon blog but it does not address the reality of how shows work or are made.  A high level EP of a show makes a decision to trust the writers and the EPs who run the show, the scripts are written and approved by the network in advance and the ship sails from there. The job of coming up with scripts and story lines falls to specific individuals within the creative team, it would seriously compromise their integrity, their creative efforts and the integrity of the show to use the show as a tool for one individual&#8217;s peeve.  This sort of thing matters a great deal to HBO as a network, and to the people who work on their shows. I know this from first hand experience. </p>
<p>Finally it really is the ultimate in &#8220;its all about us&#8221; thinking to believe that Hanks even knows enough about Mormons that he would understand how to offend us by using the temple in an episode of the show. They guy works in Hollywood, he is way too busy to spend his time researching how to offend Mormons!</p>
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		<title>By: Aboz</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-61861</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hawkgrrl, that is a very good observation about the involvement of tom Hanks.  I suspect he has anti-mormon feelings to begin with, and now, as you say, is trying to take a shot at the church.  I think that this is the best explanation yet for this whole thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hawkgrrl, that is a very good observation about the involvement of tom Hanks.  I suspect he has anti-mormon feelings to begin with, and now, as you say, is trying to take a shot at the church.  I think that this is the best explanation yet for this whole thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-61839</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 02:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife has gotten e-mails and both of us have received facebook group invitations - and they are annoying.</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-61833</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I suspect the majority of folks who even watch the show are members, who would understand what is going on.&quot;

Jeff - I have to disagree - at least from my anecdotal evidence. Any idea how many of my midwestern, average, thirty/forty-something coworkers have commented to me about episodes of Big Love? Interestingly, and perhaps thankfully, at least three of them have volunteered their general understanding that Big Love isn&#039;t necessarily representative of the mainstream LDS church, to which they know I belong. I rarely watch TV and haven&#039;t seen Big Love, but my friends have me intrigued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I suspect the majority of folks who even watch the show are members, who would understand what is going on.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jeff &#8211; I have to disagree &#8211; at least from my anecdotal evidence. Any idea how many of my midwestern, average, thirty/forty-something coworkers have commented to me about episodes of Big Love? Interestingly, and perhaps thankfully, at least three of them have volunteered their general understanding that Big Love isn&#8217;t necessarily representative of the mainstream LDS church, to which they know I belong. I rarely watch TV and haven&#8217;t seen Big Love, but my friends have me intrigued.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;BTW, has everyone been deluged by the emails yet?&quot;

LOL. And requests to join Facebook groups. I can&#039;t wait for Sunday--not because I have HBO and plan on watching (I don&#039;t), but because only then will I stop getting email and Facebook spam from family and friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;BTW, has everyone been deluged by the emails yet?&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL. And requests to join Facebook groups. I can&#8217;t wait for Sunday&#8211;not because I have HBO and plan on watching (I don&#8217;t), but because only then will I stop getting email and Facebook spam from family and friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Spector</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Spector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kind of a shame. I think Tom Hanks has always been a favorite among Mormons for his many family-friendly roles and movies.&quot;

This ought to be the concern of members, not whether they show it or not.  Let Tom Hanks know that Mormons don&#039;t like him anymore.  :) That information and pictures about the TEeple are readily available on the Internet to anyone to see. You can always get a copy of the Godmakers.

I suspect the majority of folks who even watch the show are members, who would understand what is going on.  the best course is to ignore, ignore, ignore.

BTW, has everyone been deluged by the emails yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kind of a shame. I think Tom Hanks has always been a favorite among Mormons for his many family-friendly roles and movies.&#8221;</p>
<p>This ought to be the concern of members, not whether they show it or not.  Let Tom Hanks know that Mormons don&#8217;t like him anymore.  <img src='http://mormonmatters.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  That information and pictures about the TEeple are readily available on the Internet to anyone to see. You can always get a copy of the Godmakers.</p>
<p>I suspect the majority of folks who even watch the show are members, who would understand what is going on.  the best course is to ignore, ignore, ignore.</p>
<p>BTW, has everyone been deluged by the emails yet?</p>
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		<title>By: J.Ro</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/10/big-love-big-news/#comment-61804</link>
		<dc:creator>J.Ro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any big-name executive producer who&#039;s attaching their name to a high-profile (enough) show like this has plenty of input on exactly the things Hawkgrrrl says. Enough to seriously derail a show if they desire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any big-name executive producer who&#8217;s attaching their name to a high-profile (enough) show like this has plenty of input on exactly the things Hawkgrrrl says. Enough to seriously derail a show if they desire.</p>
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