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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-159839</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 02:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify, Indians are not Caucasian either. Okay, if you go very far north in India, the people will be almost wholly Aryan, which is part of the Caucasian race. But if you go south, the people will have very little Aryan blood, and will be of the Dravidian race. This is not a Caucasian race, but nor is it a Black or an East Asian race. It is a separate race. Since pretty much all South Asians are a blend of Aryan and Dravidian stock (with some East Asian thrown in if you go to the far east of India, Bangladesh, etc) it makes more sense to classify them as their own &quot;race&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify, Indians are not Caucasian either. Okay, if you go very far north in India, the people will be almost wholly Aryan, which is part of the Caucasian race. But if you go south, the people will have very little Aryan blood, and will be of the Dravidian race. This is not a Caucasian race, but nor is it a Black or an East Asian race. It is a separate race. Since pretty much all South Asians are a blend of Aryan and Dravidian stock (with some East Asian thrown in if you go to the far east of India, Bangladesh, etc) it makes more sense to classify them as their own &#8220;race&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-159838</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 02:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asian is absolutely not a race, any more than lumping black and white people together and calling it a race would be. South Asians and East Asians are genetically and culturally totally different (with Southeast Asian being sort of a blend of the two). Putting Pacific Islander and East Asian together would be more accurate. Anyway, Indian and Chinese people are not at all related, therefore they are in two different &quot;basic races.&quot; If you had to pick 5 basic races (which is not possible anyway, since there are always groups defying category) it would be Caucasian, Black, South Asian, East Asian/Pacific, and Native American. Or, (crudely, and offensively, but easier to remember) White, Black, Brown, Yellow, and Red.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asian is absolutely not a race, any more than lumping black and white people together and calling it a race would be. South Asians and East Asians are genetically and culturally totally different (with Southeast Asian being sort of a blend of the two). Putting Pacific Islander and East Asian together would be more accurate. Anyway, Indian and Chinese people are not at all related, therefore they are in two different &#8220;basic races.&#8221; If you had to pick 5 basic races (which is not possible anyway, since there are always groups defying category) it would be Caucasian, Black, South Asian, East Asian/Pacific, and Native American. Or, (crudely, and offensively, but easier to remember) White, Black, Brown, Yellow, and Red.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 15:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right. Most Iranian women and men has strikingly beautiful and handsome feature. Iranian can almost be called &quot;Eurasian&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: kaspian</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-159491</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The virtual USA embassy is officially opened in Tehran - http://persian.iran.usembassy.gov/



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		<title>By: kaspian</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-159439</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 23:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The book Perspolis by Marjane Satrapi suggests the Anglo-American backed Coop D&#039;etat against democratically government of Dr Mosaddegh turned the Shah of Iran into a puppet as background for what we have seen. It is true and admitted by British to take the initiative and even &quot;manipulating&quot; the Americans in such a scenario. I do not agree Satrapi because this is an easy &quot;put&quot; to explain what happened. First of all the root of the mess we are dealing with these days, let say radicalism or islamic radicalism goes back to division of India. and Hindu-Muslim war. a vast number of muslim immigrants from India entered Pakistan and these are still called ( Muhajer = migrants ) and majority of Pakistani population. What it has to do with Islamic movements? .. The demography and topography catastrophe it created in the regions and its impact on &quot;middle east and muslims in general&quot;... some thing between 10s of million migration from Indian sub continent to little pakistan which was a quiet and thinly populated with landlords has changed the natural balance including human control of the situation.  A while ago Hajjarian the Iranian reform movement mastermind have said our problem is the thin population. we need more population in Iran. What he means is the overpopulated neighbors and specially Pakistan that creates imbalances politically, sociologically and so on. Musharraf the general president of Pakistan also quoted this matter. the mis-mass-placements of hindus, muslims, jains, buddhists in the region as a background of religious fundamentalism to spread through out the region. I do believe this is prior to picking &quot;coop D&#039;etat&quot; in Iran. The Iranian COOP had many reasons Marjane forgets that Musaddegh him self was circled by technocrat elite one can call &quot;pro American&quot;, these technocrats believed The USA is a republic and their own dream was to transfer Iran from Monarchy to a republic such they welcomed Americans presence in the international politics that they felt naturally reduces the British hegemony.  Musaddegh and his staff actively did not want to pay enough attention to that theirs democracy is a constitutional monarchy and not a republic! despite Shah had been in the golden cage and no interference in politics hence the officials of Musaddegh him self turned him into a puppet by not even using the legal ceremonies which should take place in a constitutional democracy! .. Shah had fled to Baghdad when Musaddegh was prime minister. has any one asked why would a democratically elected prime minister of a constitutional monarchy allow such a thing? isn&#039;t this against its own principles? The leftist groups with their sosial-islamo co partners never give room to investigate and ask such a questions. Americans made a mistake not because they wanted to, because they weren&#039;t as experienced as British regarding the information requiring to be the leader of free world at that time with soviets on the other side. The capital of the free world moved from London to Washington. Americans were told if they did not help the return of Shah the soviets will win in Iran and the border of the communist world will be the Persian Gulf. The soviets are gone and if we mesmerize the time back ,,, once again it would be very difficult to leave Iran full of crises for the soviet expansion. On the other hand, transforming Iran into a very large middle class society before political freedom is not necessarily &quot;ILL-INTENTION&quot; but it all failed and this failure is not only Irans but her best friend that is The united States as well! ... There is a question for me why would Jimmie Carter just cut the whole connection between Iran and USA the way he did? President Nixon warned Carter about this and materials are available and how could a president just cut a whole relations with a country that use to be &quot;The best friend&quot; of the United States? .. I think this question should be asked by Americans them selves! Because I do know before Ayatullah Khomeini becomes a pri-madonna of Irans freedom (???) as he chanted under the apple tree in France it was Jimmie Carter who ended the relation with so called &quot;IRAN OF SHAH&quot;. So Clintons administration asked for appology for the COOP that was backed by Americans. this is not good enough! because she asked moron mullas tyrany for apology or Irans people who are bleeding under their sickly terror regime? clinton administration should ask the American people for apology because stupid carter made a stupid choice! Sorry the term &quot;stupid&quot; because I did not find a better definition for Jimmie Carters decision. and exactly this is the reason many Iranians are despaired with Americans! not the COOP!! and the islamic tyrans are earning power on this despair! What is wrong with you Americans? why did you allow your president do what he did to your best friend? ... oh, yesss ,, they called IRANs relation with The USA a dream many nations are yearning for! Marjane Satrapi&#039;s book is good but fairly all sides and researches should be om board to discuss what went wrong and why are the &quot;may I say&quot; best friends are so distanced now? what went wrong? and why? should it be a question only for My mind? or also Americans? if the answer is yes? be brave Americans! lets talk about the truth rather than bulling people with political-craps!! AMEN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The book Perspolis by Marjane Satrapi suggests the Anglo-American backed Coop D&#8217;etat against democratically government of Dr Mosaddegh turned the Shah of Iran into a puppet as background for what we have seen. It is true and admitted by British to take the initiative and even &#8220;manipulating&#8221; the Americans in such a scenario. I do not agree Satrapi because this is an easy &#8220;put&#8221; to explain what happened. First of all the root of the mess we are dealing with these days, let say radicalism or islamic radicalism goes back to division of India. and Hindu-Muslim war. a vast number of muslim immigrants from India entered Pakistan and these are still called ( Muhajer = migrants ) and majority of Pakistani population. What it has to do with Islamic movements? .. The demography and topography catastrophe it created in the regions and its impact on &#8220;middle east and muslims in general&#8221;&#8230; some thing between 10s of million migration from Indian sub continent to little pakistan which was a quiet and thinly populated with landlords has changed the natural balance including human control of the situation.  A while ago Hajjarian the Iranian reform movement mastermind have said our problem is the thin population. we need more population in Iran. What he means is the overpopulated neighbors and specially Pakistan that creates imbalances politically, sociologically and so on. Musharraf the general president of Pakistan also quoted this matter. the mis-mass-placements of hindus, muslims, jains, buddhists in the region as a background of religious fundamentalism to spread through out the region. I do believe this is prior to picking &#8220;coop D&#8217;etat&#8221; in Iran. The Iranian COOP had many reasons Marjane forgets that Musaddegh him self was circled by technocrat elite one can call &#8220;pro American&#8221;, these technocrats believed The USA is a republic and their own dream was to transfer Iran from Monarchy to a republic such they welcomed Americans presence in the international politics that they felt naturally reduces the British hegemony.  Musaddegh and his staff actively did not want to pay enough attention to that theirs democracy is a constitutional monarchy and not a republic! despite Shah had been in the golden cage and no interference in politics hence the officials of Musaddegh him self turned him into a puppet by not even using the legal ceremonies which should take place in a constitutional democracy! .. Shah had fled to Baghdad when Musaddegh was prime minister. has any one asked why would a democratically elected prime minister of a constitutional monarchy allow such a thing? isn&#8217;t this against its own principles? The leftist groups with their sosial-islamo co partners never give room to investigate and ask such a questions. Americans made a mistake not because they wanted to, because they weren&#8217;t as experienced as British regarding the information requiring to be the leader of free world at that time with soviets on the other side. The capital of the free world moved from London to Washington. Americans were told if they did not help the return of Shah the soviets will win in Iran and the border of the communist world will be the Persian Gulf. The soviets are gone and if we mesmerize the time back ,,, once again it would be very difficult to leave Iran full of crises for the soviet expansion. On the other hand, transforming Iran into a very large middle class society before political freedom is not necessarily &#8220;ILL-INTENTION&#8221; but it all failed and this failure is not only Irans but her best friend that is The united States as well! &#8230; There is a question for me why would Jimmie Carter just cut the whole connection between Iran and USA the way he did? President Nixon warned Carter about this and materials are available and how could a president just cut a whole relations with a country that use to be &#8220;The best friend&#8221; of the United States? .. I think this question should be asked by Americans them selves! Because I do know before Ayatullah Khomeini becomes a pri-madonna of Irans freedom (???) as he chanted under the apple tree in France it was Jimmie Carter who ended the relation with so called &#8220;IRAN OF SHAH&#8221;. So Clintons administration asked for appology for the COOP that was backed by Americans. this is not good enough! because she asked moron mullas tyrany for apology or Irans people who are bleeding under their sickly terror regime? clinton administration should ask the American people for apology because stupid carter made a stupid choice! Sorry the term &#8220;stupid&#8221; because I did not find a better definition for Jimmie Carters decision. and exactly this is the reason many Iranians are despaired with Americans! not the COOP!! and the islamic tyrans are earning power on this despair! What is wrong with you Americans? why did you allow your president do what he did to your best friend? &#8230; oh, yesss ,, they called IRANs relation with The USA a dream many nations are yearning for! Marjane Satrapi&#8217;s book is good but fairly all sides and researches should be om board to discuss what went wrong and why are the &#8220;may I say&#8221; best friends are so distanced now? what went wrong? and why? should it be a question only for My mind? or also Americans? if the answer is yes? be brave Americans! lets talk about the truth rather than bulling people with political-craps!! AMEN</p>
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		<title>By: kaspian</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-159437</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot, the &quot;ON&quot; in EIR-ON is plural. this means EIRON means = Our land and the WE NOBELS (Who willing not to fight on land or greography). Masculinity was defined as LAND DEFENDER.  One can say a universal antimilitarism that gave fruit in Buddha&#039;s concept of &quot;Anatta&quot; = I am not regarding the property or ownership of - WOMAN and LAND. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot, the &#8220;ON&#8221; in EIR-ON is plural. this means EIRON means = Our land and the WE NOBELS (Who willing not to fight on land or greography). Masculinity was defined as LAND DEFENDER.  One can say a universal antimilitarism that gave fruit in Buddha&#8217;s concept of &#8220;Anatta&#8221; = I am not regarding the property or ownership of &#8211; WOMAN and LAND. </p>
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		<title>By: kaspian</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-159435</link>
		<dc:creator>kaspian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eiron, an &quot;E&quot; with a long sound, as in m-E-ditation. ending towards a sort of shortening &quot;EE&quot;.......EAYR-ON. ...this term was a kind of INVOICING during when IRAN was distancing from upper India. The invoicing attached two content at the same time. &quot;NOBEL&quot;,  and &quot;HEIR&quot; of the land. There has been long wars and brutal conflicts then naturally such invoicing that simply meant, a) I am not a killer beast! or let say I am tired of wars also , this is MY LAND! ....There had been layers of movements and revolutions or evolution within a geographical territory that is modern Iran. It seems to me that they were tired of being attacked from all corners to old world&#039;s &quot;HEART&quot; as Zarathustra puts, also Hegel (Iran is a cycle that is the heart of all cycles which would mean other cultures). There had been a strong long lasting battle between the Mehri (Mehrion) and Magi. both clergy elite but Mehris stood for only praying for peoples lives without any interference in their social affairs whilst Magis would control the entirety of life set including the society. (who said secularism is new and European seeding? hehehe).  the mehris lost and moved towards upper India, Magis remained. Today the Shia clergy are devided into two groups. &quot;roohani&quot; and &quot;Akhond&quot; Akhond is a degrading term whilst Roohani impacts a sort of respect. this is very similar to that conflict of Mehris and Magis. Roohanis are against interfering in politics and direct power on peoples lives. whilst Akhondism&quot; is thirsty for power, wealth and oh, can&#039;t you see? ..... The Sonni people bash the Shia clergy system because they claim it has nothing to do with Islam. it is from Irans infidel-times.... this example was to understand the soul invoicing beneath what we know or hear as Islam. I agree the Sonni or Arabism that extreme complicated &quot;Iran-Islam&quot; whether good or bad... most often has to do with its own rich past or cultural complications than feeding from a book which is Quran and sonnis mean more than enough for every thing and whole human life and achievements! ...
The self designation Eeir or ARYA ( as I insist has nothing to do with RACE, not even the RACE in today modern Iran but Its culture! ) is showing again and again in varies times and similar to each of these times is the &quot;Invasion&quot; of the territory by aliens. much later during Parthians semi-federative revolution the Sasanian dynesty took over and held power in the region they called ERAN or ERANSHAHR. here Eran simply refers to domain property and Eranshahr means ERAN-CITY. the strong communication that Parthians created with Anahita (First Goddess of civilization) temples and her son Mithra (The sun God), a process against the Greek saleucides who saw them selves as owner of the land. All these belong to a chapter that I call &quot;the revolution of privet property&quot;, its echo is still heard today every where on earth. From Israel to upper India the whole region is witnessing waves of changes that would bring folks towards owning their own lives and properties. very interesting when genealogy is clearified only then we get a deeper understanding why &quot;EIR&quot; this is My land and I am a nobel as mean as : do not attack My land and force me fight with you!....
So, an Eir would also mean not fighting. not killing for living. this is more enlightening in Buddhism movement. not to forget there is a relevant connection to christianity and Jesus phenomena in Israel. We do know there had been brutal wars and harassing onto Israel constantly. Reading old testament and new tells us Israelis had their hearts to their throut fearing constant attack by strange beasts and demonic war lusting creatures!.. So seeing Jesus protesting, I won&#039;t kill, I won&#039;t take a life for living mine is a very interesting story, history and etc.....
.......
Iran has been defined variesly through timeline, historians believe Elam was a term the birth of Iran began. Elam is a semitic (probably Sumerian??) word for Highlanders vs lowlanders which means Mesopothamia and below. Irans topography connects the Caucasus moutains towards Iran and divides into two main branch or chainy moutains. Alborz and Zagros.  Most population in Iran are consentrated around and within these moutainous regions. not to forget the great Damavand on top of Alborz moutains which is biggest &quot;LAVA&quot; hill on earth.

These moutains with its beauty of nature and fertilities also have had great impact as defence. so for most Iranians the Lava Damavand sounds a mighty soul of the country.

Having said this, now we might understand better why Elam ( Highlanders ) is connected to a feeling of security against alien attacks specially from non fertile areas.

Elam according to most historians was the birth of Nationhood. moving beyond tribalism and a greater complexed society. This even before Akhenaton or even &quot;house of Israel&quot; comes down the trees! hehehehehe... LUV the teasing. sorry My egyption and Jewish fellas!

Happy readings 

Kaspian - The truth is always truth!






 







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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eiron, an &#8220;E&#8221; with a long sound, as in m-E-ditation. ending towards a sort of shortening &#8220;EE&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;.EAYR-ON. &#8230;this term was a kind of INVOICING during when IRAN was distancing from upper India. The invoicing attached two content at the same time. &#8220;NOBEL&#8221;,  and &#8220;HEIR&#8221; of the land. There has been long wars and brutal conflicts then naturally such invoicing that simply meant, a) I am not a killer beast! or let say I am tired of wars also , this is MY LAND! &#8230;.There had been layers of movements and revolutions or evolution within a geographical territory that is modern Iran. It seems to me that they were tired of being attacked from all corners to old world&#8217;s &#8220;HEART&#8221; as Zarathustra puts, also Hegel (Iran is a cycle that is the heart of all cycles which would mean other cultures). There had been a strong long lasting battle between the Mehri (Mehrion) and Magi. both clergy elite but Mehris stood for only praying for peoples lives without any interference in their social affairs whilst Magis would control the entirety of life set including the society. (who said secularism is new and European seeding? hehehe).  the mehris lost and moved towards upper India, Magis remained. Today the Shia clergy are devided into two groups. &#8220;roohani&#8221; and &#8220;Akhond&#8221; Akhond is a degrading term whilst Roohani impacts a sort of respect. this is very similar to that conflict of Mehris and Magis. Roohanis are against interfering in politics and direct power on peoples lives. whilst Akhondism&#8221; is thirsty for power, wealth and oh, can&#8217;t you see? &#8230;.. The Sonni people bash the Shia clergy system because they claim it has nothing to do with Islam. it is from Irans infidel-times&#8230;. this example was to understand the soul invoicing beneath what we know or hear as Islam. I agree the Sonni or Arabism that extreme complicated &#8220;Iran-Islam&#8221; whether good or bad&#8230; most often has to do with its own rich past or cultural complications than feeding from a book which is Quran and sonnis mean more than enough for every thing and whole human life and achievements! &#8230;<br />
The self designation Eeir or ARYA ( as I insist has nothing to do with RACE, not even the RACE in today modern Iran but Its culture! ) is showing again and again in varies times and similar to each of these times is the &#8220;Invasion&#8221; of the territory by aliens. much later during Parthians semi-federative revolution the Sasanian dynesty took over and held power in the region they called ERAN or ERANSHAHR. here Eran simply refers to domain property and Eranshahr means ERAN-CITY. the strong communication that Parthians created with Anahita (First Goddess of civilization) temples and her son Mithra (The sun God), a process against the Greek saleucides who saw them selves as owner of the land. All these belong to a chapter that I call &#8220;the revolution of privet property&#8221;, its echo is still heard today every where on earth. From Israel to upper India the whole region is witnessing waves of changes that would bring folks towards owning their own lives and properties. very interesting when genealogy is clearified only then we get a deeper understanding why &#8220;EIR&#8221; this is My land and I am a nobel as mean as : do not attack My land and force me fight with you!&#8230;.<br />
So, an Eir would also mean not fighting. not killing for living. this is more enlightening in Buddhism movement. not to forget there is a relevant connection to christianity and Jesus phenomena in Israel. We do know there had been brutal wars and harassing onto Israel constantly. Reading old testament and new tells us Israelis had their hearts to their throut fearing constant attack by strange beasts and demonic war lusting creatures!.. So seeing Jesus protesting, I won&#8217;t kill, I won&#8217;t take a life for living mine is a very interesting story, history and etc&#8230;..<br />
&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
Iran has been defined variesly through timeline, historians believe Elam was a term the birth of Iran began. Elam is a semitic (probably Sumerian??) word for Highlanders vs lowlanders which means Mesopothamia and below. Irans topography connects the Caucasus moutains towards Iran and divides into two main branch or chainy moutains. Alborz and Zagros.  Most population in Iran are consentrated around and within these moutainous regions. not to forget the great Damavand on top of Alborz moutains which is biggest &#8220;LAVA&#8221; hill on earth.</p>
<p>These moutains with its beauty of nature and fertilities also have had great impact as defence. so for most Iranians the Lava Damavand sounds a mighty soul of the country.</p>
<p>Having said this, now we might understand better why Elam ( Highlanders ) is connected to a feeling of security against alien attacks specially from non fertile areas.</p>
<p>Elam according to most historians was the birth of Nationhood. moving beyond tribalism and a greater complexed society. This even before Akhenaton or even &#8220;house of Israel&#8221; comes down the trees! hehehehehe&#8230; LUV the teasing. sorry My egyption and Jewish fellas!</p>
<p>Happy readings </p>
<p>Kaspian &#8211; The truth is always truth!</p>
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		<title>By: Kakaspian</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saying Azerbaijanis are &quot;Turkics&quot; will be the same as saying Hungarians are Mayans! ... Notice also in linguistic we know American Indians, Eskimos, Fins and Hungarians root takes us all to Mongolia! the terms and words which is purely theirs follows &quot;VOCAL HARMONY&quot; this means the sound letters in word is the same, such as Mississippi&quot; or &quot;Alabama&quot;.... and if there are two different sound in a word, it is loanword. Now, the point is though Azerbaijanis speak a language they call Azeri with plenty of loanwords from &quot;Turkic&quot; languages its gramatology and structure follows that of &quot;indoeuropean&quot; model. What makes the indoeuropean languages differ from non IE is the syntax of the structure. this means a term or word that makes a sense and indicates impulsive can enter IE languages and become part of. Such, IE languages are open to all ideas, impulses or name it what ever useful. Azeri Language follows same patern and is not a syntax-blocked language. The same even applies Turkish and many ethnically Turkics. because these are aculturized by a mongolic language. In Spanish there are tons and tons of Arabic words! Even Madrid is Arabic. Now are Spaniards Arabs? nope! because Arabic words entered through the syntax and became part of Spanish. &quot;COFFEE&quot; in English is no longer an ARABIC word! it has become English and that&#039;s it. Lets not forget IE languages can not be &quot;IDENTITY&quot; this has failed in Europe. Specially between WW1 - WW2 Europeans were trying to define their identity with languages. In Modern time it is not the Language that becomes Identity, neither race nor history... there are 7 pilars every nation has to modernize to become a modern nation: language - heritage ( not race! )- Government (most be democratic!) - State - Literature - Art - religion (which is modern society becomes SPIRITUAL rather than religion).............The republic of Azerbaijan has all these 7 pilars even more functional than that of current IRAN&#039;S model of governing system. so there is no need to search for identity or similar to succeed. more to this, I do not agree putting Persians vs Arab! .... what you guys blend is the &quot;Persianism&quot; that is literature and art which is indeed the most &quot;objectively&quot; expressed on earth! I would claim even prior to English Literature that is modernly impulsed and full of &quot;SELF&quot; and EGOMANIA&quot;....one needs to get beyond the SELF or MONO what ever to as objectively verfiy &quot;The where are we&quot;? ... Persian literature and art has allot of wealth stored and still not verified. Let me give you an example: In Azerbaijan republic, there was a man who wrote poems. one of his works is known as : Makhzan Ol Asrar, the title is Arabic but poems in Persian, the man named &quot;Nezami&quot; , in this book there are 5 models of governing system that is already applied in western societies! ... this work was forbidden in Europe, whilst Italians secretly translated it, some thing which lead to influence Machiavelli and so on....So, you see a Persian work done by an Azeri man has blossomed in Europe rather than Persia or else where. This is the interactivity of IE languages and their universal-ism. it all is relatively interactive and interconnected.
Why would medieval Europeans look into a Persian poetry book to search for solution? which gave birth to Modernism? ... yepp - IRAN with Persian language is synonymous to &quot;Governing system&quot;. Through timeline it challenges the 4 corners of the globe in a direction where governing systems and experiences become better and better. some times she shoots an idea but it is harvested else where. I am not religious, but do know well plenty of happenings in old testament was indeed in IRAN its self and never ISRAEL! ( Daniel chapter for example) or Esther and Xerxes ( new testament ). Now, reading these teach us allot about : justice, governing system, the law, the and so on... often people discuss ridiculous matters regarding old and new testament whilst in depth its all about improvement of human life towards greater and more complexed societies. Persianism just like Aryanism ( culturally Iran and Indias ex change of universal-ism in the past+vast numbers of migration from Europe towards Persia and upper India! ) is not vs a folk or similar. it is simply governing system with &quot;justice&quot; as core value (quote: search Shahnameh in wikipedia). I read above that Arab conquest of Persia! its so widely used and even by Iranians. hence so wrong!!! There has never been such a thing as Arab conquest! .. neither there has been JEWISH conquest of ROMA! ... same way as Romans messed their vast empire and could no longer control ideas from middle east entered which we know as christianity. the same way with Islam. there has been a Mohammed and his little revolution in a rural village and his conquest was a little city near by called &quot;Yathrib&quot; now , Madinah. after 60 years the whole empire was fully controlled by &quot;MUTEWALIS&quot; and this means ex-eastern Romans and Persians officers and soldairs. One of reason that Islamic capital had to be moved to Baghdad and in confilct with Damascus ( part of byzantium or east romans) .  Who was Kalifate then? a pupet! in whos harem they were so paranoid that they had nothing to do but killing their own brothers sisters and wives and oh, isn&#039;t it the same with Roman court? ... because they were not really in charge! but those officers and merchants..... Playing with peoples minds on Arab conquest, Alexander conquest and so on is just bullies! .... and, why would this be a matter of pride? ... an illusive picturial picking of history for own self satisfactories than having to do with its reality!.... The Arabism or Islamism has caused allot of harm in Iran I must admit! it still does! .... can you imagine bunch of criminals grab the power in united states? what will happen? .... that illusive conquest also caused a horror where human being despite so mich achievemnts suffer more and is very unhappy! it is simply what Neitszche have said: Why do we have to be? .... its connected with birth of Islam. Islam causes us all &quot;HAVE TO BE&quot; rather than leaving us alone! now, imagine Iranians are bleeding and still do,,,, + the damn horror of &quot;have to be&quot; ?! .. the same horror also caused humans to think of security, immunity ( how much is it debated in USA? its an old and long debate from Europe!) ,, and again ,, please do not misunderstand ,,, when I say it caused... does not mean &quot;ISLAM&quot; is some thing good or similar&quot; ,,, it is sickness to bring a snake to bite your kid just because you want the kid learn and be aware of snake harm! ,,, Now, we know the harm so shu shu any one who try to interpret my writing here as if I am saying ISLAM is any thing useful! no it might be good for insanity! that I happen to experience in My own country which I really love! and know will never even forgive your GODS what what he did if he is slightly involved with the crime happened and still happening with peace-fullest people called &quot;PERSIANS?&quot; ,, yes call them persians, the MEN OF PEN! pen was the only weapon they had.  (agreed and bring the quote from Nietzsche again who says Persians fully abandoned the POWER and grabbed the PEN under rain of terror and horror they managed so much.... that even American presidents put their hand on a book that is telling their history - namely chapter of Esther and Xerxes, including Cyrus the great charter that is in-baked in your holy book of bible!)  This book is the manifesto of American values and its time to reveal the truth about it! ...... So thanks PERSIANS that we are here! other than that, pulleaseeee bring me a slightest value or ...... I give up the good Persians and stick to you!I am Azeri and Iran born and I do know while during 1000 years of global bloodbath, the dark ages,,, where even Europeans were cannibalistic, Persians were the only folk grab the pen, bleed under worse attack and write down what ever that might have been useful for me and you today! make a search ,, and see during those times... what all nations were doing and what Persians were doing, then judge for your self! HOW TRUE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying Azerbaijanis are &#8220;Turkics&#8221; will be the same as saying Hungarians are Mayans! &#8230; Notice also in linguistic we know American Indians, Eskimos, Fins and Hungarians root takes us all to Mongolia! the terms and words which is purely theirs follows &#8220;VOCAL HARMONY&#8221; this means the sound letters in word is the same, such as Mississippi&#8221; or &#8220;Alabama&#8221;&#8230;. and if there are two different sound in a word, it is loanword. Now, the point is though Azerbaijanis speak a language they call Azeri with plenty of loanwords from &#8220;Turkic&#8221; languages its gramatology and structure follows that of &#8220;indoeuropean&#8221; model. What makes the indoeuropean languages differ from non IE is the syntax of the structure. this means a term or word that makes a sense and indicates impulsive can enter IE languages and become part of. Such, IE languages are open to all ideas, impulses or name it what ever useful. Azeri Language follows same patern and is not a syntax-blocked language. The same even applies Turkish and many ethnically Turkics. because these are aculturized by a mongolic language. In Spanish there are tons and tons of Arabic words! Even Madrid is Arabic. Now are Spaniards Arabs? nope! because Arabic words entered through the syntax and became part of Spanish. &#8220;COFFEE&#8221; in English is no longer an ARABIC word! it has become English and that&#8217;s it. Lets not forget IE languages can not be &#8220;IDENTITY&#8221; this has failed in Europe. Specially between WW1 &#8211; WW2 Europeans were trying to define their identity with languages. In Modern time it is not the Language that becomes Identity, neither race nor history&#8230; there are 7 pilars every nation has to modernize to become a modern nation: language - heritage ( not race! )- Government (most be democratic!) &#8211; State &#8211; Literature &#8211; Art &#8211; religion (which is modern society becomes SPIRITUAL rather than religion)&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.The republic of Azerbaijan has all these 7 pilars even more functional than that of current IRAN&#8217;S model of governing system. so there is no need to search for identity or similar to succeed. more to this, I do not agree putting Persians vs Arab! &#8230;. what you guys blend is the &#8220;Persianism&#8221; that is literature and art which is indeed the most &#8220;objectively&#8221; expressed on earth! I would claim even prior to English Literature that is modernly impulsed and full of &#8220;SELF&#8221; and EGOMANIA&#8221;&#8230;.one needs to get beyond the SELF or MONO what ever to as objectively verfiy &#8220;The where are we&#8221;? &#8230; Persian literature and art has allot of wealth stored and still not verified. Let me give you an example: In Azerbaijan republic, there was a man who wrote poems. one of his works is known as : Makhzan Ol Asrar, the title is Arabic but poems in Persian, the man named &#8220;Nezami&#8221; , in this book there are 5 models of governing system that is already applied in western societies! &#8230; this work was forbidden in Europe, whilst Italians secretly translated it, some thing which lead to influence Machiavelli and so on&#8230;.So, you see a Persian work done by an Azeri man has blossomed in Europe rather than Persia or else where. This is the interactivity of IE languages and their universal-ism. it all is relatively interactive and interconnected.<br />
Why would medieval Europeans look into a Persian poetry book to search for solution? which gave birth to Modernism? &#8230; yepp &#8211; IRAN with Persian language is synonymous to &#8220;Governing system&#8221;. Through timeline it challenges the 4 corners of the globe in a direction where governing systems and experiences become better and better. some times she shoots an idea but it is harvested else where. I am not religious, but do know well plenty of happenings in old testament was indeed in IRAN its self and never ISRAEL! ( Daniel chapter for example) or Esther and Xerxes ( new testament ). Now, reading these teach us allot about : justice, governing system, the law, the and so on&#8230; often people discuss ridiculous matters regarding old and new testament whilst in depth its all about improvement of human life towards greater and more complexed societies. Persianism just like Aryanism ( culturally Iran and Indias ex change of universal-ism in the past+vast numbers of migration from Europe towards Persia and upper India! ) is not vs a folk or similar. it is simply governing system with &#8220;justice&#8221; as core value (quote: search Shahnameh in wikipedia). I read above that Arab conquest of Persia! its so widely used and even by Iranians. hence so wrong!!! There has never been such a thing as Arab conquest! .. neither there has been JEWISH conquest of ROMA! &#8230; same way as Romans messed their vast empire and could no longer control ideas from middle east entered which we know as christianity. the same way with Islam. there has been a Mohammed and his little revolution in a rural village and his conquest was a little city near by called &#8220;Yathrib&#8221; now , Madinah. after 60 years the whole empire was fully controlled by &#8220;MUTEWALIS&#8221; and this means ex-eastern Romans and Persians officers and soldairs. One of reason that Islamic capital had to be moved to Baghdad and in confilct with Damascus ( part of byzantium or east romans) .  Who was Kalifate then? a pupet! in whos harem they were so paranoid that they had nothing to do but killing their own brothers sisters and wives and oh, isn&#8217;t it the same with Roman court? &#8230; because they were not really in charge! but those officers and merchants&#8230;.. Playing with peoples minds on Arab conquest, Alexander conquest and so on is just bullies! &#8230;. and, why would this be a matter of pride? &#8230; an illusive picturial picking of history for own self satisfactories than having to do with its reality!&#8230;. The Arabism or Islamism has caused allot of harm in Iran I must admit! it still does! &#8230;. can you imagine bunch of criminals grab the power in united states? what will happen? &#8230;. that illusive conquest also caused a horror where human being despite so mich achievemnts suffer more and is very unhappy! it is simply what Neitszche have said: Why do we have to be? &#8230;. its connected with birth of Islam. Islam causes us all &#8220;HAVE TO BE&#8221; rather than leaving us alone! now, imagine Iranians are bleeding and still do,,,, + the damn horror of &#8220;have to be&#8221; ?! .. the same horror also caused humans to think of security, immunity ( how much is it debated in USA? its an old and long debate from Europe!) ,, and again ,, please do not misunderstand ,,, when I say it caused&#8230; does not mean &#8220;ISLAM&#8221; is some thing good or similar&#8221; ,,, it is sickness to bring a snake to bite your kid just because you want the kid learn and be aware of snake harm! ,,, Now, we know the harm so shu shu any one who try to interpret my writing here as if I am saying ISLAM is any thing useful! no it might be good for insanity! that I happen to experience in My own country which I really love! and know will never even forgive your GODS what what he did if he is slightly involved with the crime happened and still happening with peace-fullest people called &#8220;PERSIANS?&#8221; ,, yes call them persians, the MEN OF PEN! pen was the only weapon they had.  (agreed and bring the quote from Nietzsche again who says Persians fully abandoned the POWER and grabbed the PEN under rain of terror and horror they managed so much&#8230;. that even American presidents put their hand on a book that is telling their history &#8211; namely chapter of Esther and Xerxes, including Cyrus the great charter that is in-baked in your holy book of bible!)  This book is the manifesto of American values and its time to reveal the truth about it! &#8230;&#8230; So thanks PERSIANS that we are here! other than that, pulleaseeee bring me a slightest value or &#8230;&#8230; I give up the good Persians and stick to you!I am Azeri and Iran born and I do know while during 1000 years of global bloodbath, the dark ages,,, where even Europeans were cannibalistic, Persians were the only folk grab the pen, bleed under worse attack and write down what ever that might have been useful for me and you today! make a search ,, and see during those times&#8230; what all nations were doing and what Persians were doing, then judge for your self! HOW TRUE!</p>
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		<title>By: Kakaspian</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-159426</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kakaspian</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kakaspian</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 21:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: faridoon</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-158970</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 10:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all i am sorry for my bad english:) The word &quot;tajik&quot; is the synonym of &quot;persian&quot;, &amp; really not all iranians are persians. There are only 51% of iranians are persians, &amp; there are also exist other persians with one blood, history, culture &amp; language with iranian persians: Tajik of Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, China &amp; Pakistan. But azeri turks, arabs, armenians &amp; turkmens of Iran - are not persians, wether they speak persian or not. Because persian - is nationality, but not the group of people speaking in persian, or living in one country(Iran).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all i am sorry for my bad english:) The word &#8220;tajik&#8221; is the synonym of &#8220;persian&#8221;, &amp; really not all iranians are persians. There are only 51% of iranians are persians, &amp; there are also exist other persians with one blood, history, culture &amp; language with iranian persians: Tajik of Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, China &amp; Pakistan. But azeri turks, arabs, armenians &amp; turkmens of Iran &#8211; are not persians, wether they speak persian or not. Because persian &#8211; is nationality, but not the group of people speaking in persian, or living in one country(Iran).</p>
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		<title>By: Reza</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-158631</link>
		<dc:creator>Reza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to web-ranger:
Azerbaijanis are Iranian by race and very very close to Persians (which are another Iranian group). Their original language was very close to Persian, but it has changed slowly after settlement of Turk tribes who were passing the area during decades and finally went to Turkey. You still can find Persian words in anything related to agriculture because Turk tribes were pastors and not farmers.
That is the reason that you can find almost the same culture and events although they have different languages.</description>
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Azerbaijanis are Iranian by race and very very close to Persians (which are another Iranian group). Their original language was very close to Persian, but it has changed slowly after settlement of Turk tribes who were passing the area during decades and finally went to Turkey. You still can find Persian words in anything related to agriculture because Turk tribes were pastors and not farmers.<br />
That is the reason that you can find almost the same culture and events although they have different languages.</p>
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		<title>By: Mzandi200439</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 14:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iranian People from ancient times call their land &quot;Iran&quot; or &quot;Iranshar&quot;.</description>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 03:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Persians (Zoroastrians) also colored eggs and celebrated spring with them. Some think that Easter Eggs were a tradition from Europe. Likelihood is that they are related to the Persian New Year Celebrations.</description>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-103401</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are incorrect in thinking Arabs &amp; Iranians look the same. I am Iranian born and know an Arab when I see one. It is as you say Chinese &amp; Japanese look the same which they dont or Mexicans &amp; White Americans look the same and they dont, you are born here so you know what the featurs are. Having said that, many Iranian women were taken as slaves to Arabia and mixed with Arabs, Arabia has been mixed by many over thousands of years. Iranians in the north are lighter skin &amp; we do have blonds, redheads that would make the Irish blush. In my family many have green eyes, hazel and blue, not just brown.

We have many people in Iran that are olive skin, not brown or dark and becuase the south is very hot, the people in that region have darker skin usually. Iranians are Caucasian, the Caucus mountains run from Russia south to Iran. Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan were all part of Persia, so if you call yourself white which is incorrect, it is Caucasian you are part of the Indo-german which is Indo-Iranian of people, over 600 words in English is Parsi the language or Iranians.

Arabic language &amp; religion was not accepted but forced on Iranians, humiliation tactics, extreem taxes &amp; many other ways used to first covnert the aristocrats &amp; merchants, it took hundreds of years &amp; not until the Turks forced Islam that Iran became majority Muslim, however we won the language, heritage &amp; culture war with Arabs.

If you can tell the difference between, a Canadian, American &amp; Mexican you will be able to tell the difference between Arab &amp; Iranian easily as I can tell the difference between Korean, Thai, Chinese &amp; Japanese easily.

Iranians have been invaded by Arabs 13th century &amp; again 20th century, as we have had issues with Arabs always using our people and taking credit for our people and what they have accomplished before the invasion &amp; after under the umbrella of Islam, we have had issues and after 1980 invasion this probelm was started again and Iranians not being Semitic truly do not like being called Arab, it is a great insult to us. As Americans that have called me this and in return I called them Mexican they were greatly insulted.

Jews are Semitic people, however the Jews living in Europe &amp; Middle East including Russia have been mixed so long that the language Yidish is an Indo-germanic language &amp; they have changed their looks by living in a cold area.

if you look at most Italians, Greek or Spanish, you would have difficulty to tell if they are Iranain or European. The difference is not in skin tone or color, color of eyes, it is the difference in our bone structure. Mongols, Chinese are similar but not with Caucasians of Iran, Europe, India and if you look at Africans they are in many ways far closer to many Arabs than Caucasians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are incorrect in thinking Arabs &amp; Iranians look the same. I am Iranian born and know an Arab when I see one. It is as you say Chinese &amp; Japanese look the same which they dont or Mexicans &amp; White Americans look the same and they dont, you are born here so you know what the featurs are. Having said that, many Iranian women were taken as slaves to Arabia and mixed with Arabs, Arabia has been mixed by many over thousands of years. Iranians in the north are lighter skin &amp; we do have blonds, redheads that would make the Irish blush. In my family many have green eyes, hazel and blue, not just brown.</p>
<p>We have many people in Iran that are olive skin, not brown or dark and becuase the south is very hot, the people in that region have darker skin usually. Iranians are Caucasian, the Caucus mountains run from Russia south to Iran. Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan were all part of Persia, so if you call yourself white which is incorrect, it is Caucasian you are part of the Indo-german which is Indo-Iranian of people, over 600 words in English is Parsi the language or Iranians.</p>
<p>Arabic language &amp; religion was not accepted but forced on Iranians, humiliation tactics, extreem taxes &amp; many other ways used to first covnert the aristocrats &amp; merchants, it took hundreds of years &amp; not until the Turks forced Islam that Iran became majority Muslim, however we won the language, heritage &amp; culture war with Arabs.</p>
<p>If you can tell the difference between, a Canadian, American &amp; Mexican you will be able to tell the difference between Arab &amp; Iranian easily as I can tell the difference between Korean, Thai, Chinese &amp; Japanese easily.</p>
<p>Iranians have been invaded by Arabs 13th century &amp; again 20th century, as we have had issues with Arabs always using our people and taking credit for our people and what they have accomplished before the invasion &amp; after under the umbrella of Islam, we have had issues and after 1980 invasion this probelm was started again and Iranians not being Semitic truly do not like being called Arab, it is a great insult to us. As Americans that have called me this and in return I called them Mexican they were greatly insulted.</p>
<p>Jews are Semitic people, however the Jews living in Europe &amp; Middle East including Russia have been mixed so long that the language Yidish is an Indo-germanic language &amp; they have changed their looks by living in a cold area.</p>
<p>if you look at most Italians, Greek or Spanish, you would have difficulty to tell if they are Iranain or European. The difference is not in skin tone or color, color of eyes, it is the difference in our bone structure. Mongols, Chinese are similar but not with Caucasians of Iran, Europe, India and if you look at Africans they are in many ways far closer to many Arabs than Caucasians.</p>
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		<title>By: Athena</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-95474</link>
		<dc:creator>Athena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Athena...&lt;/strong&gt;

this is why i always pick my nose....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Athena&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>this is why i always pick my nose&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ty</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-95423</link>
		<dc:creator>Ty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ty...&lt;/strong&gt;

an interesting take on a boring subject....</description>
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<p>an interesting take on a boring subject&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Joan</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-95387</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Joan...&lt;/strong&gt;

an interesting take on a boring topic....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Joan&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>an interesting take on a boring topic&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: CW</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-85935</link>
		<dc:creator>CW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not Arab or Persian and I tend to think of them as the same when speaking generally. They live in the same region of the world, they have the same religion, and they have a relatively strong cultural understanding of each other. The same could be said of Americans and Mexicans. Whereas Americans and Mexicans are collectively called westerners/infidels/meddlers/whatever by many folks in the middle east, it&#039;s convenient to refer to everyone in the middle east as Arabs. That works when you&#039;re talking in generalities, but may provoke a correction by an Arab or Persion if uttered in their presence ... to which you should politely make the distinction. So, yeah, I&#039;m boiling this down to a matter of nomenclature, convenience, and etiquette for those that are neither Arab nor Persian with the suggestion that more specific language be used for those that might take exception. Or if you happen to be able to tell the difference, then do that. My guess is that it&#039;s not an insult to be called one when you&#039;re the other, just incorrect.

Just another point of view. Thanks for the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not Arab or Persian and I tend to think of them as the same when speaking generally. They live in the same region of the world, they have the same religion, and they have a relatively strong cultural understanding of each other. The same could be said of Americans and Mexicans. Whereas Americans and Mexicans are collectively called westerners/infidels/meddlers/whatever by many folks in the middle east, it&#8217;s convenient to refer to everyone in the middle east as Arabs. That works when you&#8217;re talking in generalities, but may provoke a correction by an Arab or Persion if uttered in their presence &#8230; to which you should politely make the distinction. So, yeah, I&#8217;m boiling this down to a matter of nomenclature, convenience, and etiquette for those that are neither Arab nor Persian with the suggestion that more specific language be used for those that might take exception. Or if you happen to be able to tell the difference, then do that. My guess is that it&#8217;s not an insult to be called one when you&#8217;re the other, just incorrect.</p>
<p>Just another point of view. Thanks for the article.</p>
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		<title>By: ginger</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-85067</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Race is an anthropological, geographical and cultural animal. It all depended, before transportation became available outside a 50 mile radius, on whom we married. Eventually we will all be one beautiful people.  There will be no need for the &quot;race&quot; blank on job applications. G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Race is an anthropological, geographical and cultural animal. It all depended, before transportation became available outside a 50 mile radius, on whom we married. Eventually we will all be one beautiful people.  There will be no need for the &#8220;race&#8221; blank on job applications. G.</p>
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		<title>By: web-ranger</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-81818</link>
		<dc:creator>web-ranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Azerbaijanis are not iranian people they are Turkic. And they speak turkic languages.One&#039;s gotta be really ignorant not to know thye difference between persian poeople and arabs.
1) They speak diffrent languages
2) they look different ( arabs are genetically semites, while persians are iranian people)
3) They have absolutly different cultures
and much much more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Azerbaijanis are not iranian people they are Turkic. And they speak turkic languages.One&#8217;s gotta be really ignorant not to know thye difference between persian poeople and arabs.<br />
1) They speak diffrent languages<br />
2) they look different ( arabs are genetically semites, while persians are iranian people)<br />
3) They have absolutly different cultures<br />
and much much more.</p>
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		<title>By: Arash</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-74557</link>
		<dc:creator>Arash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 01:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have much to add, but let&#039;s just explain that the term Persian is used for two purposes. The first one is the language, and the second one is the race (or nationality). Persian language (which is locally called &quot;Farsi&quot; or &quot;Parsi&quot; in older texts) in the official language in Iran and some areas of Afghanistan and Tajikistan. However, Persian as a race or nationality is equivalent to Iranian nowadays. So people from Afghanistan are called Afghan, or people from Tajikistan are called Tajik, although they may speak Persian (Farsi). 

Both the language and the race are influenced by Arabs after Islam. The Persian alphabet changed after Arabs invaded Iran 1400 years ago and lots of Arabic words entered the language. Today the relation between Arabic and Persian languages is like the relation between English and French. Almost the same alphabet, and a lot of words in common. But the grammar, verbs and pronunciation are totally different, so they do not understand each other at all! The race also influenced by Arabs as a result of war and also proximity of Iran and Arab countries around Persian Gulf. Even some people in southern part of Iran speak Arabic and dress like Arabs.

There is another point here too. Though Persian and Iranian are considered  having the same meaning, it&#039;s not always the case! There are people who speak different language as their local race/tribe/language in Iran (like Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic, Armenian, Luri, etc) These people have no doubt that they are Iranian, but if you call them Persian, they may say &quot;Hey, I&#039;m not Persian, I&#039;m Armenian!&quot; . I had this conversation with a guy at college, which I think is the result of equivocal meaning of term Persian as a language and a race/nationality.

The final advise is that never call a Persian/Iranian &quot;Arab&quot;! Otherwise you will here such a long story as I said!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have much to add, but let&#8217;s just explain that the term Persian is used for two purposes. The first one is the language, and the second one is the race (or nationality). Persian language (which is locally called &#8220;Farsi&#8221; or &#8220;Parsi&#8221; in older texts) in the official language in Iran and some areas of Afghanistan and Tajikistan. However, Persian as a race or nationality is equivalent to Iranian nowadays. So people from Afghanistan are called Afghan, or people from Tajikistan are called Tajik, although they may speak Persian (Farsi). </p>
<p>Both the language and the race are influenced by Arabs after Islam. The Persian alphabet changed after Arabs invaded Iran 1400 years ago and lots of Arabic words entered the language. Today the relation between Arabic and Persian languages is like the relation between English and French. Almost the same alphabet, and a lot of words in common. But the grammar, verbs and pronunciation are totally different, so they do not understand each other at all! The race also influenced by Arabs as a result of war and also proximity of Iran and Arab countries around Persian Gulf. Even some people in southern part of Iran speak Arabic and dress like Arabs.</p>
<p>There is another point here too. Though Persian and Iranian are considered  having the same meaning, it&#8217;s not always the case! There are people who speak different language as their local race/tribe/language in Iran (like Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic, Armenian, Luri, etc) These people have no doubt that they are Iranian, but if you call them Persian, they may say &#8220;Hey, I&#8217;m not Persian, I&#8217;m Armenian!&#8221; . I had this conversation with a guy at college, which I think is the result of equivocal meaning of term Persian as a language and a race/nationality.</p>
<p>The final advise is that never call a Persian/Iranian &#8220;Arab&#8221;! Otherwise you will here such a long story as I said!!</p>
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		<title>By: MH</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-68863</link>
		<dc:creator>MH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pedro,

If race is a sham, can you explain why blacks are more likely to die of a heart attack than whites?  Why are whites more likely to develop skin cancer than blacks?</description>
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<p>If race is a sham, can you explain why blacks are more likely to die of a heart attack than whites?  Why are whites more likely to develop skin cancer than blacks?</p>
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		<title>By: pedro olavarria</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/03/22/persians-and-arabs/#comment-68856</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro olavarria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole concept of race is a sham. People invented to make themselves feel better about themslevs by taking credit for other people&#039;s achievements; &quot;My people built the pyriamids&quot;. 
As for Arabs and Persians. Being Arab is like being Hispanic. If you speak Arabic then you are an Arab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole concept of race is a sham. People invented to make themselves feel better about themslevs by taking credit for other people&#8217;s achievements; &#8220;My people built the pyriamids&#8221;.<br />
As for Arabs and Persians. Being Arab is like being Hispanic. If you speak Arabic then you are an Arab.</p>
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