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	<title>Comments on: Voting &#8212; 2008 Niblet Awards</title>
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		<title>By: Well, what have we here? &#171; Pinto&#8217;s Beans</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-122018</link>
		<dc:creator>Well, what have we here? &#171; Pinto&#8217;s Beans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BUT, after said narrowing, I happened to come across the fact that two (and maybe even the only two) posts I published on Juvenile Instructor won nominations in the &#8220;Top 10 Spiritual/Historical Posts&#8221; for the Niblet Awards of 2008. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BUT, after said narrowing, I happened to come across the fact that two (and maybe even the only two) posts I published on Juvenile Instructor won nominations in the &#8220;Top 10 Spiritual/Historical Posts&#8221; for the Niblet Awards of 2008. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nine Moons &#187; Blog Archive : 5 Questions After 5 Years – From A Longtime &#8216;Nacle Wannabe &#187; 5 Questions After 5 Years – From A Longtime &#8216;Nacle Wannabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nine Moons &#187; Blog Archive : 5 Questions After 5 Years – From A Longtime &#8216;Nacle Wannabe &#187; 5 Questions After 5 Years – From A Longtime &#8216;Nacle Wannabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the day, but was never really part of the official Bloggernacle community (as defined by those invested in the term). I was (and am) a &#8216;Nacle Wannabe. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the day, but was never really part of the official Bloggernacle community (as defined by those invested in the term). I was (and am) a &#8216;Nacle Wannabe. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 2008 Niblets Results at Mormon Matters</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-92167</link>
		<dc:creator>2008 Niblets Results at Mormon Matters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I could come up with for so many incomplete ballots was the one already discussed on the Niblets voting thread: single-issue voters. That is, lots of ballots were cast by people who visited only to ensure that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I could come up with for so many incomplete ballots was the one already discussed on the Niblets voting thread: single-issue voters. That is, lots of ballots were cast by people who visited only to ensure that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BHodges</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-91169</link>
		<dc:creator>BHodges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BiV is out of prison guys.</description>
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		<title>By: Blog Segullah : Niblet ahoy!</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-91074</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog Segullah : Niblet ahoy!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that coveted corny accolade isn&#8217;t in the bag quite yet. So if you haven&#8217;t already, go cast your vote. And don&#8217;t forget to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that coveted corny accolade isn&#8217;t in the bag quite yet. So if you haven&#8217;t already, go cast your vote. And don&#8217;t forget to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hawkgrrrl</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-90932</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawkgrrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BiV - well said!  I second that emotion.</description>
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		<title>By: Bored in Vernal</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-90924</link>
		<dc:creator>Bored in Vernal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reese, you&#039;ve made some great points, which I happen to agree with.  Mormon Matters, from the beginning, has been all about inclusion, and I would prefer to stand for that principle rather than exclusion.  I&#039;ve learned that it takes talent and hard work to create humor on a regular basis and at a high quality as well as other types of writing.  If there is improvement to be made here for next year, I think it may be in the refinement of categories. If Mormon bloggers are enjoying cotton candy, we would like to recognize it, but it certainly should be put in a different category and not be pitted against Thanksgiving dinner, to use Ardis&#039; apt analogy.  We&#039;ve all learned a little, I hope you&#039;ve had fun, and had an opportunity to savor the many treats that Mormon blogging offers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reese, you&#8217;ve made some great points, which I happen to agree with.  Mormon Matters, from the beginning, has been all about inclusion, and I would prefer to stand for that principle rather than exclusion.  I&#8217;ve learned that it takes talent and hard work to create humor on a regular basis and at a high quality as well as other types of writing.  If there is improvement to be made here for next year, I think it may be in the refinement of categories. If Mormon bloggers are enjoying cotton candy, we would like to recognize it, but it certainly should be put in a different category and not be pitted against Thanksgiving dinner, to use Ardis&#8217; apt analogy.  We&#8217;ve all learned a little, I hope you&#8217;ve had fun, and had an opportunity to savor the many treats that Mormon blogging offers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sparky</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-90880</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, sure, pick on the defenseless air-filled sugary confection. A friend of mine alerted me to this site and the disparaging comments that are being made. It’s shameful!

You may think cotton candy an easy target, what with its’ soft texture and friendly colors, but No! I submit the following list of reasons why you, too, should prefer cotton candy over a thanksgiving dinner: 

 - It’s an American institution, invented in 1897 in Tennessee and sold by the truckload!
 - It is associated with happy childhood memories of exploiting vertically challenged people for entertainment, as opposed to celebrating the first steps in the conquest of a continent. 
- There are LESS CALORIES in a serving of cotton candy than there are in that Thanksgiving dinner. Seriously.
 - Clean-up of a Thanksgiving dinner makes mothers everywhere resent the entire event, whereas clean-up of cotton candy is easily achieved with a simple garden hose and a pair of earplugs.
 - After eating Cotton Candy, you never see people moping around, dreading that 4:00 AM madness at Wal-Mart the following day.
- It is humane, there are NO animals killed during the production of cotton candy! 
 - 7 out of 10 Turkeys prefer the taste of cotton candy to… wait, my numbers are off. TEN out of TEN turkeys prefer the taste of cotton candy!

Cotton Candy is a year-round, enjoyable treat. It isn’t that heavy, burdensome meal that only comes around once each year. (It only comes once a year FOR A GOOD REASON.)

In short, cotton candy is more humane, better tasting, easier to produce, easier to eat, and just plain more fun.

I hope that next year the Niblets include a nomination for Cotton Candy.  Better yet, ditch the Niblets. Who wants corn? Winners next year should each receive a sugary treat. The losers will be caned.

Signed,

Sparky the Clown</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, sure, pick on the defenseless air-filled sugary confection. A friend of mine alerted me to this site and the disparaging comments that are being made. It’s shameful!</p>
<p>You may think cotton candy an easy target, what with its’ soft texture and friendly colors, but No! I submit the following list of reasons why you, too, should prefer cotton candy over a thanksgiving dinner: </p>
<p> &#8211; It’s an American institution, invented in 1897 in Tennessee and sold by the truckload!<br />
 &#8211; It is associated with happy childhood memories of exploiting vertically challenged people for entertainment, as opposed to celebrating the first steps in the conquest of a continent.<br />
- There are LESS CALORIES in a serving of cotton candy than there are in that Thanksgiving dinner. Seriously.<br />
 &#8211; Clean-up of a Thanksgiving dinner makes mothers everywhere resent the entire event, whereas clean-up of cotton candy is easily achieved with a simple garden hose and a pair of earplugs.<br />
 &#8211; After eating Cotton Candy, you never see people moping around, dreading that 4:00 AM madness at Wal-Mart the following day.<br />
- It is humane, there are NO animals killed during the production of cotton candy!<br />
 &#8211; 7 out of 10 Turkeys prefer the taste of cotton candy to… wait, my numbers are off. TEN out of TEN turkeys prefer the taste of cotton candy!</p>
<p>Cotton Candy is a year-round, enjoyable treat. It isn’t that heavy, burdensome meal that only comes around once each year. (It only comes once a year FOR A GOOD REASON.)</p>
<p>In short, cotton candy is more humane, better tasting, easier to produce, easier to eat, and just plain more fun.</p>
<p>I hope that next year the Niblets include a nomination for Cotton Candy.  Better yet, ditch the Niblets. Who wants corn? Winners next year should each receive a sugary treat. The losers will be caned.</p>
<p>Signed,</p>
<p>Sparky the Clown</p>
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		<title>By: AdamF</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-90868</link>
		<dc:creator>AdamF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait wait, Ardis, you were being sarcastic, correct?

I have enjoyed it. There has to be some kind of balance between caring enough to participate, but not caring so much that anyone gets their underwear twisted up over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait wait, Ardis, you were being sarcastic, correct?</p>
<p>I have enjoyed it. There has to be some kind of balance between caring enough to participate, but not caring so much that anyone gets their underwear twisted up over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Ainsworth</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-90867</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Ainsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardis, ironically enough, I don&#039;t think your last comment will persuade many readers that my comment above (220) was off-base.

I&#039;m signing off now. After loosely monitoring this thread I came into the discussion late, and I&#039;m not really interested in getting involved in a junior high-style debate over something so petty.

I&#039;m sorry this attempted exercise at fun and camaraderie, i.e., the Niblets, didn&#039;t fulfill that purpose for some.  Best of luck to you in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardis, ironically enough, I don&#8217;t think your last comment will persuade many readers that my comment above (220) was off-base.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m signing off now. After loosely monitoring this thread I came into the discussion late, and I&#8217;m not really interested in getting involved in a junior high-style debate over something so petty.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry this attempted exercise at fun and camaraderie, i.e., the Niblets, didn&#8217;t fulfill that purpose for some.  Best of luck to you in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-90818</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You, Andrew Ainsworth, and your analytical skills -- if that&#039;s what you were applying to my comment -- are most definitely stuck somewhere in junior high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You, Andrew Ainsworth, and your analytical skills &#8212; if that&#8217;s what you were applying to my comment &#8212; are most definitely stuck somewhere in junior high.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Ainsworth</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-90813</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Ainsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ran into an old friend at church the other day and he brought up how silly all this griping about the Niblets has been.  Let&#039;s get some perspective here:

Of the 13 million Mormons, the number of Mormons who regularly frequent LDS-themed blogs probably ranges between 5,000 - 10,000.

Of that number, less than 800 have even voted in the Niblets process.  The winner of most categories will have won by receiving only about 100 votes, maybe even less, which makes the significance of a Niblets &quot;win&quot; in just about any category tantamount to being elected president of your junior high, or maybe a junior high club.

So when it comes to big fish in a little pond, we are dealing with a very, very, very small pond indeed.

So why do Niblets at all?  This whole thing is meant for fun and camaraderie, it&#039;s not for fame and glory, and it&#039;s a shame if folks can&#039;t recognize that.

If anyone blogs for the purpose of getting credit for their &quot;time to attend the events, careful notetaking, thoughtful drafting,&quot; and yadda yadda, they should probably take up journalism or at least a more serious endeavor.  I struggle to understand how anyone could be so attached to the expectation of getting &quot;credit&quot; and &quot;recognition&quot; for engaging in a hobby, provided gratuitously to the public, that they would turn an occasion for fun and camaraderie into an occasion filled with griping, bickering, cliquish/exclusionary behavior, denigrating others&#039; work and blogs, and general weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth.

If there&#039;s one thing I&#039;ve learned from all this, some people take their blogging really, really, really, really, really seriously.  So seriously that they&#039;re willing to be insulting and dismissive and rude to others if they don&#039;t get the &quot;credit&quot; and &quot;recognition&quot; they think they deserve . . . for a hobby . . . offered to the public gratuitously . . . only read by about 5,000 - 10,000 people tops . . . less than 800 of which even care enough to vote . . . with most winners getting around only 100 votes or less. 

Are we back in junior high again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran into an old friend at church the other day and he brought up how silly all this griping about the Niblets has been.  Let&#8217;s get some perspective here:</p>
<p>Of the 13 million Mormons, the number of Mormons who regularly frequent LDS-themed blogs probably ranges between 5,000 &#8211; 10,000.</p>
<p>Of that number, less than 800 have even voted in the Niblets process.  The winner of most categories will have won by receiving only about 100 votes, maybe even less, which makes the significance of a Niblets &#8220;win&#8221; in just about any category tantamount to being elected president of your junior high, or maybe a junior high club.</p>
<p>So when it comes to big fish in a little pond, we are dealing with a very, very, very small pond indeed.</p>
<p>So why do Niblets at all?  This whole thing is meant for fun and camaraderie, it&#8217;s not for fame and glory, and it&#8217;s a shame if folks can&#8217;t recognize that.</p>
<p>If anyone blogs for the purpose of getting credit for their &#8220;time to attend the events, careful notetaking, thoughtful drafting,&#8221; and yadda yadda, they should probably take up journalism or at least a more serious endeavor.  I struggle to understand how anyone could be so attached to the expectation of getting &#8220;credit&#8221; and &#8220;recognition&#8221; for engaging in a hobby, provided gratuitously to the public, that they would turn an occasion for fun and camaraderie into an occasion filled with griping, bickering, cliquish/exclusionary behavior, denigrating others&#8217; work and blogs, and general weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s one thing I&#8217;ve learned from all this, some people take their blogging really, really, really, really, really seriously.  So seriously that they&#8217;re willing to be insulting and dismissive and rude to others if they don&#8217;t get the &#8220;credit&#8221; and &#8220;recognition&#8221; they think they deserve . . . for a hobby . . . offered to the public gratuitously . . . only read by about 5,000 &#8211; 10,000 people tops . . . less than 800 of which even care enough to vote . . . with most winners getting around only 100 votes or less. </p>
<p>Are we back in junior high again?</p>
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		<title>By: reese</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-90801</link>
		<dc:creator>reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No no Ardis, please don&#039;t mistake me. I don&#039;t mean to tromp on nerves here. I wasn&#039;t trying to say that every objection raised is wrong, or that you specifically said anything I particularly disagreed with. That comment was not directed to you personally but to the people who were creating what I saw as an issue I wanted to address, which is company I was not mentally including you in. Throughout the long life of this thread there absolutely has been some harsh things said about SSB and others and I was attempting to distinguish that *that&#039;s* what I was concerned about. Not about raising any objections at all. And I certainly don&#039;t disagree that ideally SSB should not be competing in the same category as a scholarly journal. I&#039;m just trying to argue that since there is not a specific category for a humor blog, SSB finds itself competing with blogs it doesn&#039;t have a lot in common with, and that does not automatically make SSB unworthy or of no value. It&#039;s just different. 

I think that your comment about a different readership is totally valid, and as I mentioned I think a lot of other people had a lot of other great ideas that would help resolve some of the concerns others expressed. I&#039;m just trying to come to the defense of some blogs who are being criticized for just being what they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No no Ardis, please don&#8217;t mistake me. I don&#8217;t mean to tromp on nerves here. I wasn&#8217;t trying to say that every objection raised is wrong, or that you specifically said anything I particularly disagreed with. That comment was not directed to you personally but to the people who were creating what I saw as an issue I wanted to address, which is company I was not mentally including you in. Throughout the long life of this thread there absolutely has been some harsh things said about SSB and others and I was attempting to distinguish that *that&#8217;s* what I was concerned about. Not about raising any objections at all. And I certainly don&#8217;t disagree that ideally SSB should not be competing in the same category as a scholarly journal. I&#8217;m just trying to argue that since there is not a specific category for a humor blog, SSB finds itself competing with blogs it doesn&#8217;t have a lot in common with, and that does not automatically make SSB unworthy or of no value. It&#8217;s just different. </p>
<p>I think that your comment about a different readership is totally valid, and as I mentioned I think a lot of other people had a lot of other great ideas that would help resolve some of the concerns others expressed. I&#8217;m just trying to come to the defense of some blogs who are being criticized for just being what they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-90786</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;translate into trashing or dismissal of every blog that isn&#039;t a scholarly journal&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s an entirely unfair characterization of anything I&#039;ve said, or anything I can remember being said by others who have noted problems. It&#039;s comments like that, that make the Niblets a trainwreck -- I know my replying is tantamount to staring at the gore, but I can&#039;t tear my eyes away. Every time I think this can&#039;t get worse, it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>translate into trashing or dismissal of every blog that isn&#8217;t a scholarly journal</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s an entirely unfair characterization of anything I&#8217;ve said, or anything I can remember being said by others who have noted problems. It&#8217;s comments like that, that make the Niblets a trainwreck &#8212; I know my replying is tantamount to staring at the gore, but I can&#8217;t tear my eyes away. Every time I think this can&#8217;t get worse, it does.</p>
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		<title>By: reese</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-90776</link>
		<dc:creator>reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely agree that your work and all the others who pour hours of research and scholarship into their blogs should be recognized. And by this point in the discussion I think it&#039;s clear that we all agree there have been some lessons learned and that the categories ended up being more broad than anyone recognized. I just hate to see these other blogs so denigrated. 

What SSB does, it does well. It&#039;s not trying to be Thanksgiving dinner, and as great as Thanksgiving dinner can be, I don&#039;t want it for every meal. These blogs do have value. 

What I take away is that some people aren&#039;t satisfied with how the categories ended up working out, and that is fine, but that doesn&#039;t need to translate into trashing or dismissal of every blog that isn&#039;t a scholarly journal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree that your work and all the others who pour hours of research and scholarship into their blogs should be recognized. And by this point in the discussion I think it&#8217;s clear that we all agree there have been some lessons learned and that the categories ended up being more broad than anyone recognized. I just hate to see these other blogs so denigrated. </p>
<p>What SSB does, it does well. It&#8217;s not trying to be Thanksgiving dinner, and as great as Thanksgiving dinner can be, I don&#8217;t want it for every meal. These blogs do have value. </p>
<p>What I take away is that some people aren&#8217;t satisfied with how the categories ended up working out, and that is fine, but that doesn&#8217;t need to translate into trashing or dismissal of every blog that isn&#8217;t a scholarly journal.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis E. Parshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardis E. Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reese, those blogs are not a threat to the bloggernacle, but the bulk of their readers are not the same people as the bulk of the readers for the bloggernacle blogs -- their overwhelming numbers prove that. Pitting SSB against almost any of the bloggernacle blogs is like pitting cotton candy against a full Thanksgiving dinner. Maybe everybody who voted for it thought &quot;Tamners goes to Washington&quot; the most hilarious, insightful parody they had ever read anywhere, but it is utterly worthless in comparison to any of the competing posts, which required time to attend the events, careful notetaking, thoughtful drafting, and everything else that SSB is not. But there are a lot of people who like cotton candy, especially when they&#039;ve never participated in Thanksgiving dinner and so can&#039;t recognize the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reese, those blogs are not a threat to the bloggernacle, but the bulk of their readers are not the same people as the bulk of the readers for the bloggernacle blogs &#8212; their overwhelming numbers prove that. Pitting SSB against almost any of the bloggernacle blogs is like pitting cotton candy against a full Thanksgiving dinner. Maybe everybody who voted for it thought &#8220;Tamners goes to Washington&#8221; the most hilarious, insightful parody they had ever read anywhere, but it is utterly worthless in comparison to any of the competing posts, which required time to attend the events, careful notetaking, thoughtful drafting, and everything else that SSB is not. But there are a lot of people who like cotton candy, especially when they&#8217;ve never participated in Thanksgiving dinner and so can&#8217;t recognize the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: AdamF</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-90749</link>
		<dc:creator>AdamF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the participation in the community is a good standard for next time. Regarding ads, there may be more reasons, but it seems like jealousy to me. We don&#039;t want to compete with people who are getting paid for doing this stuff! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the participation in the community is a good standard for next time. Regarding ads, there may be more reasons, but it seems like jealousy to me. We don&#8217;t want to compete with people who are getting paid for doing this stuff! <img src='http://mormonmatters.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: reese</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-90744</link>
		<dc:creator>reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread has been like watching my mommy and daddy fight. I adore SSB. Absolutely adore it, partly because I am surrounded by (and related to) real life TAMN&#039;s, and reading that blog gives me hope that I&#039;m not the only one in the world sick of the faux-righteousness and narrow minded certainty those women live their lives with.

But I also adore the bloggernacle, and honestly, until this moment I didn&#039;t even realize that it was anymore strictly defined than &quot;a collection of Mormon blogs&quot; which SSB and Dooce and CJane would all certainly fit into. I think there have been some great suggestions made for further definition which would solve a lot of the problem.

I guess I just don&#039;t understand the threat SSB and Dooce and CJane pose to the &quot;True&quot; Bloggernacle blogs. They&#039;re not trying to offer the same things, what they are offering are spectacular sometimes and never something that&#039;s &quot;bad&quot;, and they are a part of the larger Mormon internet community. When I read the category title &quot;Best Individual Blogger&quot; I only thought which blogger had the posts I thought were the best, whether that was on an individual blog or a group blog. After reading the thread, I really like Ardis&#039; thought that the blogger&#039;s participation in the community should be taken into consideration, but that was never included in the rules, so as for this go round that perspective is no more or less valid then me liking TAMN despite her blog not trying to establish community.

I also don&#039;t really understand the philosophical difference with blogs that run ads, but I suppose that&#039;s another discussion for another day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread has been like watching my mommy and daddy fight. I adore SSB. Absolutely adore it, partly because I am surrounded by (and related to) real life TAMN&#8217;s, and reading that blog gives me hope that I&#8217;m not the only one in the world sick of the faux-righteousness and narrow minded certainty those women live their lives with.</p>
<p>But I also adore the bloggernacle, and honestly, until this moment I didn&#8217;t even realize that it was anymore strictly defined than &#8220;a collection of Mormon blogs&#8221; which SSB and Dooce and CJane would all certainly fit into. I think there have been some great suggestions made for further definition which would solve a lot of the problem.</p>
<p>I guess I just don&#8217;t understand the threat SSB and Dooce and CJane pose to the &#8220;True&#8221; Bloggernacle blogs. They&#8217;re not trying to offer the same things, what they are offering are spectacular sometimes and never something that&#8217;s &#8220;bad&#8221;, and they are a part of the larger Mormon internet community. When I read the category title &#8220;Best Individual Blogger&#8221; I only thought which blogger had the posts I thought were the best, whether that was on an individual blog or a group blog. After reading the thread, I really like Ardis&#8217; thought that the blogger&#8217;s participation in the community should be taken into consideration, but that was never included in the rules, so as for this go round that perspective is no more or less valid then me liking TAMN despite her blog not trying to establish community.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t really understand the philosophical difference with blogs that run ads, but I suppose that&#8217;s another discussion for another day.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Soper</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-90696</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn Soper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ray, for Segullah&#039;s nomination. It&#039;s an honor.

When exactly do the polls close?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ray, for Segullah&#8217;s nomination. It&#8217;s an honor.</p>
<p>When exactly do the polls close?</p>
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		<title>By: Polls Close Tomorrow! &#124; Faith-Promoting Rumor</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-90686</link>
		<dc:creator>Polls Close Tomorrow! &#124; Faith-Promoting Rumor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you haven&#8217;t yet voted in this year&#8217;s Niblets, stroll on over to Mormon Matters to check out the many amazing nominations. It is real treat to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you haven&#8217;t yet voted in this year&#8217;s Niblets, stroll on over to Mormon Matters to check out the many amazing nominations. It is real treat to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: chuckles</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-90497</link>
		<dc:creator>chuckles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at you all--seeking the praises of men. Aren&#039;t you cute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at you all&#8211;seeking the praises of men. Aren&#8217;t you cute.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-90327</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&amp;sid=4108250&amp;autostart=y</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&amp;sid=4108250&amp;autostart=y" rel="nofollow">http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&amp;sid=4108250&amp;autostart=y</a></p>
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		<title>By: Justmeherenow</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-90141</link>
		<dc:creator>Justmeherenow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(To fill out the Borat analogy a little: SSB works, mostly (IMO) cos of its juxtaposition of Tamn&#039;s sweetness with the un-self-aware bafoonery of those outraged by her.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(To fill out the Borat analogy a little: SSB works, mostly (IMO) cos of its juxtaposition of Tamn&#8217;s sweetness with the un-self-aware bafoonery of those outraged by her.)</p>
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		<title>By: Justmeherenow</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-89976</link>
		<dc:creator>Justmeherenow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaimi, I will bet you (as Governor Palin would say; usually rendered phonetically, unlike, say, were Clinton&#039;s Arkansas-isms) -- &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; bonefide Naclites &lt;i&gt;had&lt;/i&gt; voted for SSB, before there was any brouhaha, though, too.  
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Suggestions wrt...
- &lt;i&gt;Nominations.&lt;/i&gt; Do the Niblets via e-mail list, serving as an equivalent of a &quot;Academy of Bloggernacle Arts and Sciences,&quot; which has authors of blogs listed, say, at Archipelago as automatic members. Mail out the call for nominations to ppl on this master list, supplemented by sending out emails being sent out to all commenters during the last month at the biggest half-dozen or so group blogs. Assign each email sent out a number. 
- &lt;i&gt;Actual &quot;Niblets&quot; blog post.&lt;/i&gt; People who were not sanctioned voters are asked to mention this fact in their votes. Tally ballots coming in from &lt;i&gt;known&lt;/i&gt; individuals separately, and in cases where hosts might be a little unsure of who the voter is, an email is sent asking for the person&#039;s official ballot number. In cases where nominees amass a majority of votes only by inclusion of non-&quot;qualified&quot; ballots, give would-be winners special recognition but not actual Niblets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaimi, I will bet you (as Governor Palin would say; usually rendered phonetically, unlike, say, were Clinton&#8217;s Arkansas-isms) &#8212; <i>some</i> bonefide Naclites <i>had</i> voted for SSB, before there was any brouhaha, though, too.<br />
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Suggestions wrt&#8230;<br />
- <i>Nominations.</i> Do the Niblets via e-mail list, serving as an equivalent of a &#8220;Academy of Bloggernacle Arts and Sciences,&#8221; which has authors of blogs listed, say, at Archipelago as automatic members. Mail out the call for nominations to ppl on this master list, supplemented by sending out emails being sent out to all commenters during the last month at the biggest half-dozen or so group blogs. Assign each email sent out a number.<br />
- <i>Actual &#8220;Niblets&#8221; blog post.</i> People who were not sanctioned voters are asked to mention this fact in their votes. Tally ballots coming in from <i>known</i> individuals separately, and in cases where hosts might be a little unsure of who the voter is, an email is sent asking for the person&#8217;s official ballot number. In cases where nominees amass a majority of votes only by inclusion of non-&#8221;qualified&#8221; ballots, give would-be winners special recognition but not actual Niblets.</p>
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		<title>By: TStevens</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/06/2008-niblets-rock-the-vote-here/#comment-89975</link>
		<dc:creator>TStevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a nomination - that&#039;s cool.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a nomination &#8211; that&#8217;s cool.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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