Comments on: Similarities between Lehi and the Lemba http://mormonmatters.org/2009/11/04/similarities-between-lehi-and-the-lemba/ Exploring Mormon culture in a balanced way Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:44:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: mh http://mormonmatters.org/2009/11/04/similarities-between-lehi-and-the-lemba/#comment-114776 mh Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:35:34 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=8201#comment-114776 yes, gbsmith, I agree. I guess the readers we have are more interested in social aspects of mormonism than science aspects. plus, dna is a tough issue to comprehend anyway. yes, gbsmith, I agree. I guess the readers we have are more interested in social aspects of mormonism than science aspects. plus, dna is a tough issue to comprehend anyway.

]]> By: GBSmith http://mormonmatters.org/2009/11/04/similarities-between-lehi-and-the-lemba/#comment-114746 GBSmith Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:59:33 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=8201#comment-114746 MH, I'm a little surprised that there hasn't been a bit more interest in this subject both from the half full as well as the half empty group. Maybe everyone is still trying to decide how we "know" and if in the end it matters much in the grand scheme of things. MH, I’m a little surprised that there hasn’t been a bit more interest in this subject both from the half full as well as the half empty group. Maybe everyone is still trying to decide how we “know” and if in the end it matters much in the grand scheme of things.

]]> By: MH http://mormonmatters.org/2009/11/04/similarities-between-lehi-and-the-lemba/#comment-114680 MH Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:57:08 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=8201#comment-114680 Yes, most people have the same problem with the Malay Theory as well--for that matter lugging heavy plates from South or Central America too. The only theory that makes the plates in NY easy are the Great Lakes Theories. But those Indians are stone age technologically, wouldn't have created the metalworks Nephi mentioned, and the DNA doesn't match either. If God parted the Red Sea, or flooded the earth, surely getting the plates to NY is no problem for him. (Yes, it's not exactly scientific, but neither was Joseph's explanation for how he got the plates either.) Yes, most people have the same problem with the Malay Theory as well–for that matter lugging heavy plates from South or Central America too. The only theory that makes the plates in NY easy are the Great Lakes Theories. But those Indians are stone age technologically, wouldn’t have created the metalworks Nephi mentioned, and the DNA doesn’t match either.

If God parted the Red Sea, or flooded the earth, surely getting the plates to NY is no problem for him. (Yes, it’s not exactly scientific, but neither was Joseph’s explanation for how he got the plates either.)

]]> By: Craig http://mormonmatters.org/2009/11/04/similarities-between-lehi-and-the-lemba/#comment-114675 Craig Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:20:00 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=8201#comment-114675 The part I never quite get my head around is the final "trek to upstate New York" thing...tough from Central America, but from South Africa? The part I never quite get my head around is the final “trek to upstate New York” thing…tough from Central America, but from South Africa?

]]> By: mh http://mormonmatters.org/2009/11/04/similarities-between-lehi-and-the-lemba/#comment-114606 mh Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:39:59 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=8201#comment-114606 gbsmith, I think this is one of those cases where the glass is half full or half empty. critics of the bom will point out differences as you did, while proponents will point out similarities. as I look at the lemba, it gives an interesting angle of 'dark' lamanites. gbsmith, I think this is one of those cases where the glass is half full or half empty. critics of the bom will point out differences as you did, while proponents will point out similarities. as I look at the lemba, it gives an interesting angle of ‘dark’ lamanites.

]]> By: GBSmith http://mormonmatters.org/2009/11/04/similarities-between-lehi-and-the-lemba/#comment-114461 GBSmith Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:52:22 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=8201#comment-114461 I guess what I get from this is the lack of similarities. In the Lemba there's a surviving oral tradition and physical sites that can be associated with them and their travels. Plus there is a dna link that's identifiable and reproducible. In the case of Lehi and the Book of Mormon story it seems that all of those are in dispute or not in evidence. Maybe I'm missing something but I don't think so. I guess what I get from this is the lack of similarities. In the Lemba there’s a surviving oral tradition and physical sites that can be associated with them and their travels. Plus there is a dna link that’s identifiable and reproducible. In the case of Lehi and the Book of Mormon story it seems that all of those are in dispute or not in evidence. Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t think so.

]]> By: mh http://mormonmatters.org/2009/11/04/similarities-between-lehi-and-the-lemba/#comment-114312 mh Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:51:00 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=8201#comment-114312 yes, heber, the lemba speak one of the african languages, but have embraced hebrew as well. as the anthropologist said, they have carried their jewish traditions on through oral, rather than written history. yes, heber, the lemba speak one of the african languages, but have embraced hebrew as well. as the anthropologist said, they have carried their jewish traditions on through oral, rather than written history.

]]> By: Heber13 http://mormonmatters.org/2009/11/04/similarities-between-lehi-and-the-lemba/#comment-114278 Heber13 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:10:12 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=8201#comment-114278 Very interesting. I guess it shows how Lehi really was inspired by God to get the brass plates and keep a record of his people. It doesn't seem like the Lemba really have a record that is found that tells much about their story..so lots is left to archeologists to surmise and looking at the Lemba today and what customs still exist, but it doesn't sound like there are much in regard to documentation, is there? Very interesting. I guess it shows how Lehi really was inspired by God to get the brass plates and keep a record of his people.

It doesn’t seem like the Lemba really have a record that is found that tells much about their story..so lots is left to archeologists to surmise and looking at the Lemba today and what customs still exist, but it doesn’t sound like there are much in regard to documentation, is there?

]]> By: Stephen M (Ethesis) http://mormonmatters.org/2009/11/04/similarities-between-lehi-and-the-lemba/#comment-114201 Stephen M (Ethesis) Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:27:28 +0000 http://mormonmatters.org/?p=8201#comment-114201 This was a fun post to read. This was a fun post to read.

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