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		<title>Mormon Marriage Ref: The Johansen&#8217;s Daughter is Cohabitating!</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2010/06/11/mormon-marriage-ref-our-daughter-is-cohabitating/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While the situation described may be common, the names, events, and dialogue etc. are all fictional. Here’s the situation: David and Sue Johansen have been married for 20 years. They have four children: 19 (girl), 15 (girl), 12 (girl), and 8 (boy). The oldest just finished up her sophomore year in college, about a two-hour drive away. She is doing very well in school, majoring in biology and pre-med with a 3.8 GPA, and her boyfriend of nearly two years is an education major, planning to teach high school English in an inner-city school. Needless to say more, they are both very competent and successful in their educational pursuits. While away at school, she eventually became disinterested in attending the local branch, and eventually moved in with her boyfriend. While this concerns both David and Sue, they disagree about what should be allowed when their daughter and her boyfriend come to visit. Sue feels that their daughter is an adult and should be allowed to share a room with her boyfriend. David vehemently disagrees. David: “If we allow them to sleep in the same room in OUR home, we will be condoning her choices. How can we allow this in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>While the situation described may be common, the names, events, and dialogue etc. are all fictional.</em></p>
<p><strong>Here’s the situation:</strong></p>
<p>David and Sue Johansen have been married for 20 years. They have four children: 19 (girl), 15 (girl), 12 (girl), and 8 (boy). The oldest just finished up her sophomore year in college, about a two-hour drive away. She is doing very well in school, majoring in biology and pre-med with a 3.8 GPA, and her boyfriend of nearly two years is an education major, planning to teach high school English in an inner-city school. Needless to say more, they are both very competent and successful in their educational pursuits. While away at school, she eventually became disinterested in attending the local branch, and eventually moved in with her boyfriend. While this concerns both David and Sue, they disagree about what should be allowed when their daughter and her boyfriend come to visit. Sue feels that their daughter is an adult and should be allowed to share a room with her boyfriend. David vehemently disagrees.<span id="more-11445"></span></p>
<blockquote><p><em>David:</em> “If we allow them to sleep in the same room in OUR home, we will be condoning her choices. How can we allow this in our home, which is SUPPOSED to be sacred?!? You should be supporting me on this. Well, not just me, but the Lord.”</p>
<p><em>Sue: [Rolls eyes]</em> “Of course we don’t agree with her choices, but she is an adult! Besides, your preaching about our “home” and what you think the Lord wants is divisive. Of course I care about our home, but your attitude is belligerent and controlling.”</p>
<p><em>David: [Raises voice]</em> “Well, that’s the consequence of sin! Jesus himself said so. Just because she’s our daughter doesn’t mean we have to accept her sinful behaviors.”</p>
<p><em>Sue:</em> “I really think you should back off on this. Actually, the other kids feel the same way as well. She is doing so well in school, you need to give her some space as an adult.”</p>
<p><em>David: [Looking hurt, softens voice]</em> “So you’re all ganging up against me on this?” <em>[Raises voice, becomes adamant]</em> “Then you’re going against the Lord. Regardless, what kind of example will that set for the rest of our kids? That this is okay? It seems to already be happening… And I agree, she is doing well in school, but she is only successful by the world’s standards. How many children will we lose to the world? I don’t want to lose anymore”<em> [Begins to tear up a little]</em></p>
<p><em>Sue: </em>“I get it, she is not living the church’s standards right now. We don’t agree with her choices, but she is on birth control, and she is 19 years old! You are going to drive her away with your insistence on parenting our adult child. What does it matter if she shares a room with her boyfriend if it means she isn’t pushed out of the family? You NEED to let this one go.”</p>
<p><em>David:</em> “What about when Elder Oaks said that we can’t ignore adult children who are cohabitating? He is an apostle and he said it is wrong for us to ignore it. How can we ignore the Lord? Also, Elder Nelson said that we should confront children in these situations, not just go along with it. We can’t support sin!”</p>
<p><em>Sue:</em> “It’s clear to me that you care more about quoting church leaders than you care about our family. We all     disagree with you. It is her choice, and if we don’t accept their relationship, we will drive them away. Is that what we want?”</p>
<p><em>David: [Getting louder]</em> “Of course not! But we can’t condone this! I’m beginning to think you don’t really care about what I think or what the leaders of the church think, or even what the Lord thinks.”</p>
<p><em>Sue:</em> <em>[Getting quiet]</em> “Here you go again…”</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>You make the call! Who wins this argument? David or Sue? Why? Sound off in the comments, and offer some advice about how this couple could work out this disagreement in a more productive way than just declaring a winner….</strong></p>
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		<title>Does God Squash ETs: How Human is Human?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 18:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Distinctly Mormon doctrines relating the physical appearance of humanity to God’s own “preferred” form grew gradually in early Restoration history rather than springing forth in full. Although there are references in the Book of Mormon to the Brother of Jared seeing the “finger” and then the full vision of Christ (the earliest recorded of Joseph Smith’s prophetic writings), even the earliest published accounts of the First Vision do not feature descriptions of two personages appearing as does the “official” version eventually recorded several years after formation of the church. This doesn’t mean that later descriptions were contradictory to the first version; it does suggest that certain features of the encounter took on greater significance in light of subsequent experience. The emphasis on the “physicality of God” even in the spiritual realm grew in concert with notions of the Eternal Family and its role and function in achieving and living in Celestial Glory. The elaboration of this theology was natural as the early church leadership began to push, even if at first secretly, new forms of marriage and family life, but it was not an inevitable evolution of the theology of the 1830 Restoration. For example, no one in the Community [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Distinctly Mormon doctrines relating the physical appearance of humanity to God’s own “preferred” form grew gradually in early Restoration history rather than springing forth in full. Although there are references in the Book of Mormon to the Brother of Jared seeing the “finger” and then the full vision of Christ (the earliest recorded of Joseph Smith’s prophetic writings), even the earliest published accounts of the First Vision do not feature descriptions of two personages appearing as does the “official” version eventually recorded several years after formation of the church. This doesn’t mean that later descriptions were contradictory to the first version; it does suggest that certain features of the encounter took on greater significance in light of subsequent experience.</p>
<p>The emphasis on the “physicality of God” even in the spiritual realm grew in concert with notions of the Eternal Family and its role and function in achieving and living in Celestial Glory. The elaboration of this theology was natural as the early church leadership began to push, even if at first secretly, new forms of marriage and family life, but it was not an inevitable evolution of the theology of the 1830 Restoration. For example, no one in the Community of Christ expects that the afterlife is about progressing to populate new worlds with our own spiritual offspring, as Heavenly Father populated our own world. In one denomination, it is <strong><em>the</em></strong> Heavenly Father; in the other it is Heavenly Father, with the seldom spoken inference that there may be Heavenly Mother lurking in the theology as well.<span id="more-11344"></span></p>
<p>Today, because of this history, Mormons have a well-integrated belief system about how and why the Divine interacts with the physical universe that, nevertheless, is very different from its “prairie cousins”, let alone in comparison to more distantly related Christian denominations. As a prairie cousin with an abiding interest in the theological role of the physical, this fascinates me. LDS theology raises questions about the limits of acceptable definitions of “children of God”, and what God might do to see His children come out on top that would never occur to me in CofChrist theology. These are the kinds of questions I’d like to ask openly in this post.</p>
<p>Let’s look at extreme cases first, and then try to focus in on cases closer to home.</p>
<p>We know that the universe is a violent place. Creation is violent itself, and often involves destruction on scales we can barely comprehend. My favorite example is <a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/98199456.html">the &#8220;Death Star Galaxy&#8221;.</a> We have in that example a small galaxy – a mere few billion stars is small – that has wandered into a radiation jet being emitted by a larger galaxy. The jet is obliterating thousands of solar systems, and any life there, as we watch by telescope.</p>
<p>What does that tell us? Are planets with life so rare that God can let planets be destroyed wholesale without moral consequences? Or perhaps there are not moral consequences because the life there is not human and thus has no spirits? Either way, would God be able to “write off” a great deal of reality under LDS theology because His “children” weren’t involved? He just has to watch over those special few worlds ideal for humanity. The worlds with just the right size, at just the right distance from stars of the proper temperature and age, with the proper orbital stability and a big brother planet like Jupiter nearby to protect against too frequent impacts from comets. The list of requirements is lengthy, but with infinite space to play around in, they’re bound to pop up here and there even if God doesn’t directly favor them with a helping hand.</p>
<p>Or perhaps God has to actively “weed out” competition for his favored species. You could interpret the evidence that way, too. Consider the destruction of the dinosaurian ecosystems 65 million years ago, or the even more catastrophic Permian extinction scores of millions of years still earlier. Our existence and physical forms today depend in complex, but critical, ways on details of those events. For example, the locations within their general orbits of all the inner planets of our solar system, including the earth, are known to be chaotic on only the order of 5 million years. Start out an orbital simulation with the earth relocated by as little as a millimeter, and in 5 million years, the earth could be on the other side of the sun. A “miracle” performed a hundred million years ago that protects humanity from destruction by asteroid strike or clears the world of big reptilians so mammals (and man) can take over could be too small to notice. Far easier than Moses calling on God to make the sun stand still during battle or parting the Red Sea.</p>
<p>What LDS theology would define to be human gets tougher to distinguish as we get closer to humanity. How close? Well, within the last few weeks, evidence has been published on the results of sequencing Neanderthal DNA. The evidence, first reported in <em>Science</em>, but more accessible <a href="http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/58936/title/Neandertal_genome_yields_evidence_of_interbreeding_with_humans"> here at <em>Science News</em>,</a> shows that modern humans whose lines remained in Africa do not share Neandertal DNA. However, all of the rest of us get one to four percent of our genes from interbreeding with Neandertals that occurred after leaving Africa 45,000 or so years ago. We don’t carry Neandertal body types, but we do seem to carry something important from that population in our internal chemistry and in our brains. Eternal Family reunions might be more surprising than our expectations.</p>
<p>So, did the Neandertals die out because our body type was a little more divine than theirs? Or were the ones who bred with <em>Homo sapiens</em> the more righteous ones? Or do we extend the moral capability and need for redemption to an extinct species at all? Do we instead decide that we are all descended from ancestors who practiced bestiality? Were physical specimens of humans who had no Spirits walking around contemporaneously with Adam?</p>
<p>Look closer now as we get to Biblical or Jaredite times. Now we picture God as acting in detail to favor one nation over another, one individual over another. We try to point to specific reasons for that favoritism in terms of justice, mercy, or obedience in this life or in preexistence, and we can often convince ourselves that such reasons exist. I could argue a very good case, for example, that slaughter of entire Canaanite cities down to the last child might actually produce fewer casualties in the long run.</p>
<p>But the more uncomfortable I become <em>unless</em> I make the case in such terms, the more I realize that tying God’s plan of salvation to things other than intelligence, or justice, or mercy, or obedience – properties that have little to do with the shape or functions of my body – raises doubts. Wouldn’t exalted beings give up such narrow notions of the boundaries of humanity as part of the progression toward exaltation itself?</p>
<p>So I look at the criteria with which we define relationships with God through their physical manifestations – species, race, gender, diet, clothes – and I wonder. Is God really concerned about those things when He decides to claim His children. Or are we just engaging in a very destructive and provincial form of sibling rivalry?</p>
<p>In my Father’s house are many mansions. Maybe some reefs and rookeries, too. Maybe some hives for natural clones or collective minds.</p>
<p>And if that’s true, then certainly there are places for <em>Homo sapiens</em> with same-sex attraction, or childless couples, or singles – every form of Eternal Family we might imagine from the occurrence of those forms here on earth.</p>
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		<title>The Mormon Therapist on Kids Talking Anatomy</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2010/05/26/the-mormon-therapist-on-kids-talking-anatomy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 06:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Natasha Helfer Parker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Natasha Helfer Parker is a Licensed Clinical Marriage and Family Therapist and a member of the Church with 13 years of experience working with LDS members. Here she shares with us representative cases from her practice and insights she has gained from her work as a therapist.  She blogs at mormontherapist.blogspot.com. So here&#8217;s a conversation I wasn&#8217;t expecting the other morning started by my 3-year old son and joined in by my 5-year old son as they were getting dressed for the day. 3: &#8220;Mommy, what is this?&#8221; Lifting his penis and touching his testes. I feel my anxiety rising a bit but try to remember what I preach about staying calm and honest regarding sex ed. &#8220;Those are your testes.&#8221; 3: &#8220;Testes?&#8221; Repeated this word several times giggling. &#8220;Yup.&#8221; 5: &#8220;Do I have testes too?&#8221; &#8220;Yes.&#8221; 5: &#8220;Where?&#8221; &#8220;Under your penis &#8211; they kind of feel like small balls.&#8221; 3: Giving his own personal demonstration: &#8220;See, right here!&#8221; 3: &#8220;Do you have testes, Mommy?&#8221; &#8220;No, only boys have testes.&#8221; 5: &#8220;What do you have?&#8221; &#8220;I have a vagina and a vulva. Boys have a penis and testes.&#8221; 5: &#8220;What&#8217;s a vagina and vulva?&#8221; This is when I realize we [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Natasha Helfer Parker is a Licensed Clinical Marriage and Family  Therapist and a member of the Church with 13 years of experience working  with LDS members. Here she shares with us representative cases from her  practice and insights she has gained from her work as a therapist.  She  blogs at <a href="http://mormontherapist.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">mormontherapist.blogspot.com</a>.</em></p>
<p>So here&#8217;s a conversation I wasn&#8217;t expecting the other morning started by my 3-year old son and joined in by my 5-year old son as they were getting dressed for the day.</p>
<p>3: &#8220;Mommy, what is this?&#8221; Lifting his penis and touching his testes.<br />
I feel my anxiety rising a bit but try to remember what I preach about staying calm and honest regarding sex ed.<br />
<span id="more-11271"></span>&#8220;Those are your testes.&#8221;<br />
3: &#8220;Testes?&#8221; Repeated this word several times giggling.<br />
&#8220;Yup.&#8221;<br />
5: &#8220;Do I have testes too?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Yes.&#8221;<br />
5: &#8220;Where?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Under your penis &#8211; they kind of feel like small balls.&#8221;<br />
3: Giving his own personal demonstration: &#8220;See, right here!&#8221;<br />
3: &#8220;Do you have testes, Mommy?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;No, only boys have testes.&#8221;<br />
5: &#8220;What do you have?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I have a vagina and a vulva. Boys have a penis and testes.&#8221;<br />
5: &#8220;What&#8217;s a vagina and vulva?&#8221;<br />
This is when I realize we are in for the long haul.<br />
&#8220;The vagina is a special hole that girls have. It is the hole that babies come out of. My vulva is what you can see from the outside &#8211; just like you can see your penis.&#8221;<br />
5: &#8220;Do I have a special hole?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Well, we all have a hole in our bottom where our poopies come out of. Boys and girls. But only girls have the hole where babies come out of and that&#8217;s the vagina.&#8221;<br />
3: &#8220;Vagina?&#8221; Likes to repeat things.<br />
5: &#8220;Why do I have testes?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;That&#8217;s where boys keep sperm.&#8221;<br />
5: &#8220;What&#8217;s sperm?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;They are like seeds that you will use someday to make a baby. Someday when you are a grown-up you&#8217;ll probably want to get married and have a family.&#8221;<br />
5: &#8220;Does Daddy have sperm?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Yup.&#8221;<br />
At which point they are both satisfied and probably even bored with our conversation and run off together to play and eat cereal.<br />
Phew! I survived. <img src='http://mormonmatters.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Developmentally speaking, these are the ages when boys and girls start having normal and appropriate curiosity regarding their bodies and to develop the sense of what makes them different from the opposite gender. It is also when they are wanting to see a connection to their same-gender parent. My hope is that by offering correct terminology, by controlling my anxiety, and by being willing to answer questions simply but accurately we can start this lifelong process of sexual education. I&#8217;m hoping I can take every opportunity my children give me to make an impact on healthy sexuality. Most of these opportunities are not &#8220;planned&#8221; events. They just happen in our day-to-day lives.</p>
<p>What are your thoughts about how I handled this situation? Do you agree or disagree with my approach? Are there similar stories in your parenting experience? How did you handle them? Are there things you would have said differently? I welcome all comments&#8230;</p>
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		<title>A Marital Confession</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Aaron R. aka Rico</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A recent visit at FMH and John Dehlin’s Mormon Stories interview with fmhLisa (Butterworth) has made me realise something about myself that I am not very proud of.  Therefore, in the spirit of a post I wrote for another blog, I want to confess something.  I am sexist. It is not intentional.  In fact, I have, and would still call myself a feminist.  What are my qualifications for such a preposterous claim?  Well, first I wholeheartedly support equal rights and opportunities for women in all forms within a society.  Second, I was raised by feminist (then-single) Mormon housewife/full-time teacher.  Third, I have studied, support and work with feminist theory and research in my University education.  Fourth, I try to support my wife in her decisions regarding being a working-mum or SAHM. Yet, none of this did not help realise something.  Lisa described this way, ‘When I got married I really thought that we would be equal partners, and we were.  We really were.  He did as much of the housework as I did, we both worked, we both made money… But as soon as I had a baby I was just shocked at how my world changed and how there [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A recent visit at <a href="http://www.feministmormonhousewives.org/?p=2974">FMH</a> and John Dehlin’s Mormon Stories interview with <a href="http://mormonstories.org/?p=868">fmhLisa</a> (Butterworth) has made me realise something about myself that I am not very proud of.  Therefore, in the spirit of a post I wrote for <a href="http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/03/08/confession-as-a-spiritual-practice/">another blog</a>, I want to confess something.  I am sexist.<span id="more-10056"></span></p>
<p>It is not intentional.  In fact, I have, and would still call myself a feminist.  What are my qualifications for such a preposterous claim?  Well, first I wholeheartedly support equal rights and opportunities for women in all forms within a society.  Second, I was raised by feminist (then-single) Mormon housewife/full-time teacher.  Third, I have studied, support and work with feminist theory and research in my University education.  Fourth, I try to support my wife in her decisions regarding being a working-mum or SAHM.</p>
<p>Yet, none of this did not help realise something.  Lisa described this way, ‘When I got married I really thought that we would be equal partners, and we were.  We really were.  He did as much of the housework as I did, we both worked, we both made money… But as soon as I had a baby I was just shocked at how my world changed and how there was no equality anymore.  I was shocked of how much of that burden fell on me.’</p>
<p>From a different perspective <a href="http://www.feministmormonhousewives.org/?p=2974">Reese Dixon</a> both glories and laments being able to have only one ‘role’; that of being a mother.</p>
<p>I guess I have failed to see how our relationship is becoming more unequal.  It started out great, I think.  She worked while I was at School and I did the majority of the housework and the cooking.  Shortly after I was married I was called to a position that meant I was out a few evenings of the week; and then things began to change.  A short time later, my calling changed, and I was out more.  We moved, but I kept the same calling, had a baby and I graduated.  We managed that ok, I was home a lot and tried to make sure I would regularly share the different responsibilities.  I was home most of the time during the day and I could do that.  My wife returned to work and I looked after our baby and began my post-graduate study.</p>
<p>Just over a year ago, my calling changed again.  Now I was out nearly every evening and my studies required more time.  We got pregnant again and I began teaching.  Finally another baby arrived.</p>
<p>Recently, there are some weeks that I never cook and rarely clean.  Though I home, I work and so I see the kids but I don&#8217;t always get time with them and sometimes I rarely  change nappies or help feed.</p>
<p>Now, some might be thinking that if this is how we balance the responsibilities then that is fine.  The issue here is that I am unhappy with this and so is my wife.  The issue is that it is easier for me to allow this pattern to continue and I don&#8217;t like that about myself.</p>
<p>It is apparent that the systemic sexism in both the Church and the UK has made it easy for me to live out a patriarchal (not in a good way) existence by drawing me into the public sphere while simultaneously requiring that my wife live her life in private sphere.  That requirement is disseminated through the subtle, pernicious and quiet expectation that my wife will support me in my responsibilities.</p>
<p>I have need to repent for choosing to be acted upon rather than to act against the tide of these social influences.</p>
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		<title>A Tribute to Charity</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2010/02/13/a-tribute-to-charity-my-father-had-a-stroke-on-wednesday/</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[My father had a stroke on Wednesday. The artery in his neck is 95% blocked, and he will have surgery to try to correct that problem next Wednesday. Since my New Year&#8217;s Resolution posts on my personal blog this month are focused on charity envying not, I want to repost something that I wrote a little over two years ago when one of my nieces died unexpectedly. Much of what I know of charity envying not (and charity in totality) was learned by watching my father &#8211; particularly as he laid down his own life for the woman he loves. He never once begrudged what he might have had, but rather did what it took to serve his family and others in his own, individual, consciously chosen path. I hope someday I will be as good a man as he is. Here are some edited excerpts of what I wrote in November of 2007: My mom has a rare form of schizophrenia. My father was unaware of this, as was everyone else (including my mother), when they got married. He found out after the birth of my sisters (twins), when she was overwhelmed and her mind wouldn’t shut down and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father had a stroke on Wednesday. The artery in his neck is 95% blocked, and he will have surgery to try to correct that problem next Wednesday. Since my New Year&#8217;s Resolution posts on my personal blog this month are focused on charity envying not, I want to repost something that I wrote a little over two years ago when one of my nieces died unexpectedly.</p>
<p>Much of what I know of charity envying not (and charity in totality) was learned by watching my father &#8211; particularly as he laid down his own life for the woman he loves. <strong>He never once begrudged what he might have had, but rather did what it took to serve his family and others in his own, individual, consciously chosen path</strong>. I hope someday I will be as good a man as he is.</p>
<p><span id="more-9845"></span><br />
Here are some edited excerpts of what I wrote in November of 2007:</p>
<blockquote><p>My mom has a rare form of schizophrenia. My father was unaware of this, as was everyone else (including my mother), when they got married. He found out after the birth of my sisters (twins), when she was overwhelmed and her mind wouldn’t shut down and allow her to sleep. She had what was termed a nervous breakdown, which led to her clinical diagnosis.</p>
<p>From that moment forward, my dad shielded my mom from every care of the world so her condition would stay in remission, if you will. By all practical measures, he became my father and my mother. They had four children, but my mom wanted more, so he agreed &#8211; knowing that meant his responsibilities would increase accordingly. Ultimately, they had eight. He shouldered all of the financial, household, emotional, physical, disciplinary, organizational, educational, etc. responsibilities for his family and allowed his wife to be seen by the community as the incredibly spiritual woman we knew as our mother &#8211; a modern Mormon saint. People in town admired his work ethic, but they never realized what he was doing behind our doors &#8211; <strong>because he never once mentioned it in any way to anyone</strong>.</p>
<p>Until her first breakdown, my father served in various leadership positions in the Church &#8211; for example, serving in a Bishopric before the age of 30. <strong>After that, he literally laid down the life he had been pursuing and focused on serving my mother</strong>. He waited nearly 30 years to serve in another position that required he spend significant time away from home &#8211; until his children were gone and my mom could function without the stress associated with raising them. He left an extremely well paying job with incredible advancement opportunities to go back to the small town where my mom was raised, simply to ease her stress and allow her to function normally. <strong>He became an elementary school janitor for over 20 years, took a 50% pay cut and focused on loving and serving his kids &#8211; both at home and at his school &#8211; in relative poverty. </strong></p>
<p>Not holding a high-profile church position or good-paying job, he came to be known in town as a salt-of-the-earth farm boy &#8211; a good man, but certainly not a leader. I bought into that perception until my mother’s second breakdown a few years ago, when her “sleeping pills” stopped working and her whole personality changed. It was only after this experience that I finally saw my father for what he is &#8211; <strong>as close an example of the Savior’s single-minded dedication to service and family as anyone I have ever known</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>(The full post can be read at: <a href="http://thingsofmysoul.blogspot.com/2007/10/my-niece-died-this-morning.html">http://thingsofmysoul.blogspot.com/2007 &#8230; rning.html</a>)</p>
<p>So much of what we discuss so passionately in the Bloggernacle is important and interesting and stimulating and fun . . . and ultimately meaningless when placed next to charity and the lives of good, humble men and women. </p>
<p>Today, as I contemplate charity envying not, I think of a man lying in a hospital &#8211; robbed of the physical strength and vitality that allowed him to work multiple jobs for years to provide for his familty and allow his beloved to remain at home and undistracted by the real world around her. I think of a man who lived the life he felt was required of him given his covenants and responsibilities &#8211; even though that life brought unexpected hardships and sacrifice.</p>
<p>I spoke with him last night, and the voice I heard was foreign to me. It hit me for the first time in real terms that my father is an old man &#8211; and that he now will need to receive the same type of care and attention that he gave so freely for decades. I only hope that others respond and serve him as he served them so unselfishly and charitably &#8211; <strong>but, in the spirit in which he raised me, I will not judge or condemn them if they do not</strong>.</p>
<p>I love you, Dad &#8211; and I will be grateful eternally that I learned at the feet of such a wonderful, Christlike man.</p>
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		<title>Interfaith Marriages by guest Madam Curie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 06:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A recent post by Cr@ig on Main Street Plaza caused me to reflect on the strength of interfaith marriages. I had hoped to generate a follow-up post on this topic at MSP. However, since the comments on the Cr@ig&#8217;s post devolved into a blame game of whether the believer or non-believer was more responsible for marital dissolution, I decided it was probably best to avoid a second opportunity for mud-slinging. Differences in religious belief can be the death knell to a marriage. For that reason, many organized religions strongly advocate against being &#8220;yoked with unbelievers&#8221;. This is not only a Mormon phenomenon; you see this in any faith tradition that teaches that they alone have exclusive access to God. Even before marriage, it is rare for the unmarried, devout Mormon to even consider dating (let alone marrying) a non-Mormon; most LDS women raised in the Church are taught from an early age to make a temple marriage to a returned missionary their primary goal. Likewise, in the Catholic Church, marriage to any non-Catholic (including Protestants!) is not permitted within a Catholic church building, and is not considered to be a Sacrament. In particularly conservative Catholic cultures, it really is considered [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A <a href="http://latterdaymainstreet.com/?p=1366">recent post by Cr@ig on Main Street Plaza</a> caused me to reflect on the strength of interfaith marriages. I had hoped to generate a follow-up post on <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/widget_aNmyKwVTviYyKT3urbhn6J.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-9568" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/widget_aNmyKwVTviYyKT3urbhn6J.jpg" alt="" width="232" height="232" /></a>this topic at MSP. However, since the comments on the Cr@ig&#8217;s post devolved into a blame game of whether the believer or non-believer was more responsible for marital dissolution, I decided it was probably best to avoid a second opportunity for mud-slinging.</p>
<p>Differences in religious belief can be the death knell to a marriage. For that reason, many organized religions strongly advocate against being &#8220;yoked with unbelievers&#8221;. This is not only a Mormon phenomenon; you see this in any faith tradition that teaches that they alone have exclusive access to God. Even before marriage, it is rare for the unmarried, devout Mormon to even consider dating (let alone marrying) a non-Mormon; most LDS women raised in the Church are taught from an early age to make a temple marriage to a returned missionary their primary goal.<span id="more-9567"></span></p>
<p>Likewise, in the Catholic Church, marriage to any non-Catholic (including Protestants!) is not permitted within a Catholic church building, and is not considered to be a Sacrament. In particularly conservative Catholic cultures, it really is considered a heresy to marry someone not of the (same rite of the) Catholic Church. Consider, for example, the movie My Big Fat Greek Wedding: Toula refuses to marry Protestant Ian until he joins the Greek Orthodox Church (thus leading to a humorous scene of Ian being baptized).</p>
<p>Similar to Mormon &#8216;Marriage Prep&#8217; and &#8216;Temple Prep&#8217; Sunday School courses, dating Catholic couples are required to pursue a several-month course of marriage preparations classes, known as Pre-Cana. Similar to Mormons, Catholics who have pre-marital sexual relations (usually known from the resulting offspring) cannot be married on Catholic church grounds. However, they can have their marriage &#8220;convalidated&#8221; at a later date, similar to to a family being &#8216;sealed&#8217; a year after a civil marriage.</p>
<p>I compare these things not so much to indicate how Catholics do things so much as to show just how non-unique Mormons are in many ways with regards to their approach to interfaith marriage.</p>
<p>Disbelief that comes after marriage, however, is harder to deal with. Despite the admonition of Paul in the 1 Corinthians that:</p>
<blockquote><p>[I]f any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is consecrated through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is consecrated through her husband. Otherwise, your children would be unclean, but as it is they are holy. (1 Cor. 7:12-14)</p></blockquote>
<p>it is really not all that uncommon to see marriages Mormon temple marriages dissolve once one member of the union loses faith. The same can also be true in Catholic culture, where one of the vows made at the altar is to raise your children Catholic.</p>
<p>A few examples, then, to illustrate some of what I am talking about:</p>
<p>A Mormon female friend of mine (who also happens to be a reader of this blog) attended a non-LDS university for college. Her Patriarchal Blessing was explicit that she was to marry an RM in the temple. When a Baptist schoolmate asked her on a date, she turned him down several times before giving him an ultimatum: She would only go on a date with him if he would read the Book of Mormon and consent to taking the missionary discussions. Confident that the Mormon church was misguided, and that he could show her the error of her ways, he consented. He joined the LDS Church and they two were married in the temple a year later. Obviously, she and the Church would consider this example to be a huge success story; his Baptist family, in contrast, at that time considered their daughter-in-law to be the devil incarnate. (I suspect that they mellowed with time).</p>
<p>Another friend at the same university for four years dated a non-Mormon off and on, and was fairly involved with him physically (although never so far that she needed to go to the Bishop). She loved him and he proposed to her, but since he was not interested in the Church, she said no. Several years later, she met and married a convert of 1 year, in the temple. Another Church success story.</p>
<p>A Jewish friend attended a Jew-friendly university, but did not find a spouse. She later moved to an area in the Midwest that was predominantly Protestant, and met and fell in love with a Protestant. They moved in together, but when her family would call or visit, she threw him out of the house for the weekend. When her parents found out that she was dating this man, they first gave her a series of lectures on being &#8216;married under the canopy&#8217; and of all that her grandmother had suffered at Auschwitz. They then cut off all verbal communication with her. When the grandmother found out about the boyfriend, she literally suffered a stroke. She broke up with the boyfriend, and later married an Orthodox Jew and was welcomed back into her family.</p>
<p>A Muslim co-worker of my husband&#8217;s met and married a Hindi woman. The parents of the Muslim refuse to acknowledge their daughter-in-law, and the parents of the Hindu refuse to call the Muslim by his real name, instead calling him by the Hindi equivalent.</p>
<p>When I married my husband, we were both Mormon, however I had converted to the Church as a young adult. My mother&#8217;s side of the family (who are culturally Catholic) refused to speak with my husband at family functions and boycotted our wedding. Indeed, my own marriage might now be considered as an interfaith marriage, with each of us losing our faith in the LDS Church and taking divergent faith paths. I&#8217;ve left the LDS Church and now consider myself a post-Mormon liberal Catholic, returning to the faith of my mothers (since Catholicism in America is largely passed down matriarchally). My husband is an agnostic atheist who remains actively Mormon: regularly attending his meetings and &#8216;magnifying&#8217; his calling, held in the church by the faith of his fathers. My family is urging me to do what my responsibility as a Catholic mother would be: to baptize my son Catholic and raise him in the Catholic Church.</p>
<p>And so it goes, and so it goes. Its remarkable how adherents of all faiths claim that God will only recognize marriage in their church.</p>
<p>Through it all, my husband and I have retained enormous respect for each other and our religious decisions, as well as the effect that those decisions have on our son. I think respect for each other is really the only way such marriages can survive. My husband&#8217;s loss of belief was founded in his respect for me: Trusting that my reasoning was sound, he wanted to determine for himself what validity there was in my conclusions. Obviously, we came to different end-points, but part of respect is learning to accept (and even welcome) differences of opinion and conclusion.</p>
<p>My questions for the readership are these:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are your stories?</li>
<li>How can a couple who finds themselves in a Mormon interfaith marriage make the relationship work?</li>
<li> Is it possible to maintain a believing Mormon/non-believer relationship?</li>
<li>If so, what components are required?</li>
</ul>
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		<title>A Child Is Born In Bukavu</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A Christmas message, by today&#8217;s guest poster, mormongandhi. A child is born in Bukavu A child is born in Bukavu, and sadness fills his mother’s heart&#8230; Bukavu is not the city of David. It is a town in the eastern part of the Democratic Republic of Congo. War has been ravaging the country for years. Ever since Kabila invaded the former Zaire with military support from the US. It is a war that no one speaks of – but it has cost the lives of millions of people and caused unimaginable suffering. The child’s mother is a young girl, a daughter of the area. This young girl is named Maria.  Maria was a girl like most any other girl in her town. She walked miles for water, she helped her mother with the cooking and she also tilled the land. She learnt how to read in primary school, but ever since the war her parents no longer could afford to pay her school fees. Maria was a believer in the Christian gospel – and went like all other young girls her age to church on Sunday. Church was a mud hut with a roof made out of straw. There on Sundays, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>A Christmas message, by today&#8217;s guest poster, </em><a href="http://mormongandhi.com/"><em>mormongandhi</em></a><em>.</em></p>
<p><strong>A child is born in Bukavu</strong></p>
<p>A child is born in Bukavu, and sadness fills his mother’s heart&#8230; Bukavu is not the city of David. It is a town in the eastern part of the Democratic Republic of Congo. War has been ravaging the country for years. Ever since Kabila invaded the former Zaire with military support from the US. It is a war that no one speaks of – but it has cost the lives of millions of people and caused unimaginable suffering.</p>
<p><span id="more-8626"></span>The child’s mother is a young girl, a daughter of the area. This young girl is named Maria.  Maria was a girl like most any other girl in her town. She walked miles for water, she helped her mother with the cooking and she also tilled the land. She learnt how to read in primary school, but ever since the war her parents no longer could afford to pay her school fees. Maria was a believer in the Christian gospel – and went like all other young girls her age to church on Sunday.</p>
<p>Church was a mud hut with a roof made out of straw. There on Sundays, the kids would gather to learn about God. The preacher, an older man with glasses and graying hair, would always talk about God’s love for humanity – and that God once, long time ago, had come to the world as a male child to save humanity. In church, she had also learned some words of English. She knew that when you greeted someone, you had to say: “Good morning, class”. </p>
<p><strong>The morning breaks</strong></p>
<p>That was then. Prior to the attacks&#8230; One day, as the morning broke and shadows gathered, foreign soldiers drove into town. The houses were set on fire. The adults were gathered on the square and the older men were executed one by one. This is how Maria lost her father – and she and her mother witnessed it. The soldiers held their heads for them to watch. Maria was afraid. After having seen the murder of her father, they also separated her from her mother. She was chosen from among the young girls to follow a group of soldiers. One of them stripped her of her clothes and forced himself on her – he, subject to the commanders’ orders.</p>
<p>Now she held this young child in her arms. Her heart was filled with sadness, and she knew that her firstborn child would have given her joy under other circumstances. Some months after the soldiers left, Maria was chased away. The villagers who were left behind were ashamed of her and of the other girls who had become pregnant. These girls were a constant reminder of the day when the men in the village had been powerless – confronted with the threat and the fear of a gun. “Do not ever come back”, were the last words she heard as she was running for her life into the deep woods. </p>
<p>Maria sings to her little child a song she learned many years ago: “Lullaby, lullaby, my little one. Lullaby, my child so dear. Thy precious life has just begun. Thy mother holds thee near”. And yet, she knows the words do not ring true. True, all life is precious. But not one soul will ever value the life of this child. Born of a violent union, unwanted by his mother, into a world where people willingly march to the sound of guns. What future can she promise him? What life can this child possibly hope to have? Even though she loves him, he is a constant reminder of what happened to her, and like the villagers who once chased her away she cannot find peace when she looks into his eyes. </p>
<p><strong>Its ranks are filled with soldiers, united, bold and strong&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Victory, victory&#8230; The guys were singing and shouting, drunken by their thirst for blood and proud of their conquest. Bukavu had been encircled, trapped, taken, raped and ravaged. The soldiers executed the orders of their commander and had in turn executed the elders of Bukavu – one by one. Herodes was the commander’s name. His boys feared him.</p>
<p>They were now men. They had proven it – to themselves and to him who had led them into victory. Joseph, one of the soldiers, the one who raped Maria, was nonetheless feeling some unease. In following orders, Joseph had forced himself upon this young girl. The others had told him that having sex with a virgin was going to save him from the disease that was making him weak, this pandemic they called AIDS. But more importantly, the others respected him now. He had become one of them: their partner in crime.</p>
<p>You are the man! We saw you, Joseph. You did it. You made her cry – you and your gun. You made her scream. The words were both making him feel proud and good about himself, but for one reason, unknown to him, they were also haunting him. Could he look at a woman again without thinking of the pain he had caused to this young girl – whose name he would never know? In order to survive – either you dominate or you are dominated, Herodes used to say. To rule, you have to systematically brake down the bonds that bind communities together. They need to fear you or fear will overtake you&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>I am trying to be like Jesus</strong></p>
<p>War does not bring out the best in us – it brings out the worst in us. True, some acts are acts of courage – but aren’t those heroic acts always associated with saving lives, and not with taking them? Fear begets fear. It is the opposite of love. Misery begets misery. It is the opposite of joy. Violence begets violence. It is the opposite of peace.</p>
<p>The nativity story told the world of a little baby boy, born to Mary, a girl chosen among other girls to be the mother of a Savior, rejected by men and yet, many are they who believe he is their safe ticket to heaven. The story from Bukavu is the story of a little baby boy, born to Maria, a girl chosen among other girls to be the victim of a soldier, so he could gain accept in the eyes of his comrades, so he could become a man, taking by force what he believed was a safe ticket to health.</p>
<p>Jesus taught us that he was not Herodes. “My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.&#8221;  Jesus was nonviolent. Not exactly what you would associate with being a King. He was God. He was love, both long-suffering and kind. That is why he came to earth as a man and not as a woman: not because God favors men, but because the concept of what it means to be a Man on earth is so contrary to what it means to being God in heaven – who Mormons believe is male. Be kind, as a child, he said to them, and loving as a hen gathers her chickens:</p>
<p>“O ye people of these great cities which have fallen, who are descendants of Jacob, yea, who are of the house of Israel, how oft have I gathered you as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and have nourished you. Yea, how oft would I have gathered you as a hen gathereth her chickens, and ye would not. O ye house of Israel, whom I have spared, how oft will I gather you as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, if ye will repent and return unto me with full purpose of heart”. </p>
<p><strong>Love one another</strong></p>
<p>It was necessary for Jesus to come to earth in the form and shape of a male – to represent God as his firstborn son, the first among all great men, a king of kings. “Little children, a new commandment I give unto you, that ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another”.</p>
<p>The divine irony is the fact that Jesus exhibits throughout his life traits that we call feminine: peaceful, loving, kind, sharing, meek, forgiving, gentle, and caring. He helped the poor and he healed the sick. We crucified him, because he was a threat to men everywhere. He challenged the very idea of what it means to be a man: strong, violent, forceful, greedy, noisy, arrogant and proud. He challenged the way we think about achieving peace, not by dominating others before they dominate us, but by showing us a better way to freedom – paved with love and with sacrifice.</p>
<p>In short, this was the message Jesus gave to the modern House of Israel, to the modern sons of Jacob: “What manner of men ought ye to be? Verily I say unto you, even as I am.&#8221;  He showed all men an alternative masculinity &#8211; that of the nonviolent male who sides with the poor and the downtrodden. Come, follow me, the Savior said. </p>
<p><em>For an alternative and nonviolent study of the Book of Mormon, mormongandhi is regularly publishing a study chapter on mormon nonviolence (latter day satyagraha) at </em><a href="http://mormongandhi.com"><em>http://mormongandhi.com</em></a><em>. Each chapter follows the set-up of the Institute Study Manual of the LDS Church. In addition, you can share your thoughts and insights on the nonviolent readings of the Book of Mormon with other “peaceable followers of Christ” (Moroni 7:3) at the discussion forum (</em><a href="http://peaceablefollowers.wordpress.com"><em>http://peaceablefollowers.wordpress.com</em></a><em>) created in parallel to the “latter day satyagraha” site.</em></p>
<p><em>mormongandhi currently lives in Oslo, Norway. He has a BA in peace and development studies from Bradford University in the UK, where he studied religious peacebuilding, as well as a master’s in peace operations from GMU in Washington D.C.</em></p>
<p><em>mormongandhi is looking for alternative and more peaceful ways of thinking and living. He calls himself an advocate for nonviolence in the Restoration movement.</em></p>
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		<title>Temple Wedding Petition</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A temple wedding petition to is being circulated to promote love and happiness in the family by changing the church&#8217;s stance on civil marriages preceding temple weddings. The petition requests that the leadership of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints make it acceptable to have a civil marriage ceremony first, if desired, and then giving the couple the necessary time to attend the temple for the sealing ordinance as they do in those countries whose laws require it.  (The petition is not endorsed by Mormon Matters; this information is being shared for discussion as a news item). In the following video which lasts about 2 minutes, Jean talks about the stigma some members may feel if they choose a civil wedding ceremony. The other preseding videos last approximately 2 minutes each. Temple Wedding Petition 3 Here Temple Wedding Petition 1 Here Temple Wedding Petition 2 Here Temple Wedding Petition .org here The actual petition is found here I was raised in a part member family and remember when my brother was married my parents were disappointed that they weren&#8217;t able to go to the temple and see their son get married. It would have been nice for our family [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-8498" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Petition-274x300.jpg" alt="Petition" width="274" height="300" />A temple wedding petition to is being circulated to promote love and happiness in the family by changing the church&#8217;s stance on civil marriages preceding temple weddings. The petition requests that the leadership of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints make it acceptable to have a civil marriage ceremony first, if desired, and then giving the couple the necessary time to attend the temple for the sealing ordinance as they do in those countries whose laws require it.  (The petition is not endorsed by Mormon Matters; this information is being shared for discussion as a news item).</p>
<p>In the following video which lasts about 2 minutes, Jean talks about the stigma some members may feel if they choose a civil wedding ceremony. The other preseding videos last approximately 2 minutes each.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PdS1u8LeJU&amp;NR=1">Temple Wedding Petition 3 Here</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwEpA-lFsX8&amp;NR=1"><span id="more-8492"></span>Temple Wedding Petition 1 Here</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf3JPeT69Lg&amp;NR=1">Temple Wedding Petition 2 Here</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.templeweddingpetition.org/">Temple Wedding Petition .org here</a></p>
<p>The actual petition is found <a href="http://www.templeweddingpetition.org/enter/4952.html">here</a></p>
<p>I was raised in a part member family and remember when my brother was married my parents were disappointed that they weren&#8217;t able to go to the temple and see their son get married. It would have been nice for our family to have seen it. I wonder if it makes non- members, or those on the fringe, feel excluded from the church and may damper future missionary work with families. I live in England and it&#8217;s the law that there is a civil wedding which usually takes place in the chapel.</p>
<p>Recently a nephew was married and was schedueled to get married in the Salt Lake temple. Because much of the family couldn&#8217;t witness the wedding they decided last minute to have a civil wedding. He and his wife since their marriage enjoy going to the temple but have to wait a year now to be married in the temple.</p>
<p>I wonder if there is a church loophol if you want your non- member family to see your wedding you could get married in America and fly to a country where the church allows civil marriages followed by a temple marriage after?</p>
<p>What are your thoughts and experiences?</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Just to make it very clear that there is no advocacy on the part of MM</strong></span>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PdS1u8LeJU&amp;NR=1"></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>single mormon chick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everybody blogs, right? Why not me? Looking for my niche, my angle, and the one thing that seemed to make me stand out in my corner of the world. I found it: Being single. And 40. And Mormon. In a family ward. In a town where EVERYONE is under 30, sealed in the temple and constantly reproducing. The best humor is found in our painful life experiences. Read about mine and laugh with me. Or at me. Whichever I was late to sacrament meeting last Sunday so I decided to sit in the foyer and clean out the messenger bag i used for church while I listened to the talks. I love it when I can multitask like that at church. I am sure someone has cleaned out their purse in the chapel, but I wouldn&#8217;t do it. Seems irreverent and a little tacky, but that&#8217;s just me. I am not calling anyone to repentance, believe me. There are 4 wards that use our building, so listening to the talks became difficult as the previous wards third hour came to a close and people were gathering their families to go home. It got impossible when the Relief Society president came [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody blogs, right?  Why not me?  Looking for my niche, my angle, and the one thing that seemed to make me stand out in my corner of the world. I found it: Being single. And 40. And Mormon. In a family ward. In a town where EVERYONE is under 30, sealed in the temple and constantly reproducing. The best humor is found in our painful life experiences. <a href="http://singlemormonchick.blogspot.com/">Read</a> about mine and laugh with me. Or at me. Whichever <span id="more-8404"></span><br />
I was late to sacrament meeting last Sunday so I decided to sit in the foyer and clean out the messenger bag i used for church while I listened to the talks. I love it when I can multitask like that at church. I am sure someone has cleaned out their purse in the chapel, but I wouldn&#8217;t do it. Seems irreverent and a little tacky, but that&#8217;s just me. I am not calling anyone to repentance, believe me.<br />
There are 4 wards that use our building, so listening to the talks became difficult as the previous wards third hour came to a close and people were gathering their families to go home. It got impossible when the Relief Society president came out with her screaming two year old and two additional women came out to deal with their misbehaving kids.</p>
<p>I consider all of these women my friends and so we started chatting. As we bemoaned the unfortunate decline of the &#8220;spare the rod, spoil the child&#8221; philosophy, we noticed the elders walking down the hall. One of the women commented on how cute they were, but followed up with how young they looked. We all kind of giggled, but it opened up a discussion on how your perspective changes on something that is essentially unchanging. For the most part, missionaries are 19-21 and that&#8217;s how its been for decades, but how those young men are viewed drastically changes over time.</p>
<p>When I was a young girl, having the missionaries over for dinner was a blast. They were the best playmates ever. They ate like they had two hollow legs and would just rough house(way before the more recent guidelines that prohibit such things)and act goofy until they had to go home and make curfew. Once you graduate from Primary into the Young Womens program these elders morph into demigod-like status. They are so cute and so funny and so cool and you just can&#8217;t wait until you can date and marry your own RM. Beehive, Mia Maid(you can date!), and then finally Laurel, when dating a returned missionary is often a reality. Now they are potential husbands so you are sizing them up as breeding stock and providers. This phase will last for a few months to a few years. Maybe you will go to BYU for your MRS degree, maybe you will meet your eternal companion at FHE in your singles ward. There are so many ways it can happen, but it usually ends with your standing in a receiving line and your closest friends and family eating those chalky pastel mints and drinking ice water out of a punch bowl. Then, if you have a real testimony, you give birth to your own little missionary nine months later. The perspective changes and your focus shifts to raising the next generation of missionaries. </p>
<p>My perspective now?  Perspective is a funny thing.  The girls from my Laurel class are now sending their sons on missions. One of those girls just welcomed her oldest son back from serving an honorable mission in Argentina. Technically, I am old enough to be the mother of a returned missionary, yet I shamelessly flirt with them via my blog. In my defense, <a href="http://mormonbachelorpad.blogspot.com/">Jake</a> started it, but&#8230;</p>
<p>What seemingly unchanging things within the church changed for you, depending on your perspective?</p>
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		<title>Wherein I stop being liberal and start standing up for what I believe</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>AdamF</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of what I talk about in regard to the church is a reaction against something else. For a period of time my wife even stopped talking to me about Relief Society lessons because of what I would argue or disagree with. After a lot of self-reflection over the past few months, I realized my problem: I am not standing up for what I believe is right, I&#8217;m just arguing with those who do. When I think there is an over-emphasis on necklines or haircuts, or a teacher presents something that I think is wrong, I want to speak out. So far there are some good and bad sides to this. On the one hand, I am much more enthusiastic and enjoy the good parts of the meetings A LOT more. On the other hand, I&#8217;m still not sure what to do when something is happening that I think is wrong. For example, one person in my ward (not the bishop, but in a fairly prominent position) during each of the last few weeks has taught some things that I felt were false and misleading, to say the least. I&#8217;m sure this person has good intentions and doesn&#8217;t know [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of what I talk about in regard to the church is a reaction against something else. For a period of time my wife even stopped talking to me about Relief Society lessons because of what I would argue or disagree with. After a lot of self-reflection over the past few months, I realized my problem: I am not standing up for what I believe is right, I&#8217;m just arguing with those who do. When I think there is an over-emphasis on necklines or haircuts, or a teacher presents something that I think is wrong, I want to speak out.<span id="more-7343"></span></p>
<p>So far there are some good and bad sides to this. On the one hand, I am much more enthusiastic and enjoy the good parts of the meetings A LOT more. On the other hand, I&#8217;m still not sure what to do when something is happening that I think is wrong. For example, one person in my ward (not the bishop, but in a fairly prominent position) during each of the last few weeks has taught some things that I felt were false and misleading, to say the least. I&#8217;m sure this person has good intentions and doesn&#8217;t know of the error, but it is REALLY starting to concern me as I have a young son who will hear these lessons over and over again, and there is no way I&#8217;m going to be able to catch every comment about how important issues like earrings are, or how Lehi &#8220;sailed to America&#8221; or how John Taylor&#8217;s watch saved his life. During a recent lesson my wife said I &#8220;visibly scoffed&#8221; after one of these things was shared. It wasn&#8217;t intentional, but when I hear things like that I guess I can&#8217;t help it.</p>
<p>So what should I do? How do I keep the peace and not upset the apple cart, so to speak, while still standing up for what I believe in? We can&#8217;t let these things slide, or the truth will be the victim of the comfort-level of the crowd.</p>
<p>If anything, all this has taught me that the Truths of the gospel are the things that can be simplified without being twisted, distorted, or whitewashed. Love one another. Serve each other. Grow. Be kind. Reach out to those who are suffering. That is what I&#8217;m teaching my sunbeam class, and that is what I want my son to learn.</p>
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		<title>How Our Families Can Help Families Around the World Escape Poverty</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A year ago my wife and I were struggling to find ways to teach our children the importance of helping those in need, and lamented the fact that despite our knowing there are millions of families around the world who need help, we felt virtually powerless to make any significant difference in their lives. And although we were grateful for the opportunity to make monetary donations to the Church&#8217;s humanitarian program, we felt that writing a check quite wasn&#8217;t enough to help our children understand the challenges so many of the world&#8217;s families face; nor did it allow our children to witness the results of our family&#8217;s contributions. At the time, I was reading Muhammad Yunus&#8217; book, Banker to the Poor, in which he relates how he, as an Economics professor in Bangladesh, helped create a micro-lending bank that makes small loans to the poor so they can quit their exploitative jobs, start their own businesses, and climb out of poverty. Yunus explains how traditional aid programs, which typically rely on the UN and government agencies as &#8220;middle men&#8221; to administer aid, have a proven track record of gross inefficiency and failure spanning several decades. His micro-lending operation, and many [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7327" title="387937" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/387937-150x150.jpg" alt="387937" width="150" height="150" />A year ago my wife and I were struggling to find ways to teach our children the importance of helping those in need, and lamented the fact that despite our knowing there are millions of families around the world who need help, we felt virtually powerless to make any significant difference in their lives. And although we were grateful for the opportunity to make monetary donations to the Church&#8217;s humanitarian program, we felt that writing a check quite wasn&#8217;t enough to help our children understand the challenges so many of the world&#8217;s families face; nor did it allow our children to witness the results of our family&#8217;s contributions.<span id="more-7159"></span></p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-7186" title="muhammad-yunus" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/muhammad-yunus-150x150.jpg" alt="muhammad-yunus" width="129" height="129" />At the time, I was reading Muhammad Yunus&#8217; book, <a href="http://www.bankertothepoor.com/bankertothepoor/">Banker to the Poor</a>, in which he relates how he, as an Economics professor in Bangladesh, helped create a micro-lending bank that makes small loans to the poor so they can quit their exploitative jobs, start their own businesses, and climb out of poverty.  Yunus explains how traditional aid programs, which typically rely on the UN and government agencies as &#8220;middle men&#8221; to administer aid, have a proven track record of gross inefficiency and failure spanning several decades.  His micro-lending operation, and many others like it, cut out the bureaucratic middle-men so that the money intended for the poor actually makes it to the poor. By working with impoverished communities around the world, Yunus learned first-hand that the poor are willing and able to work, but simply lack the capital needed to start their own businesses.  By providing loans that must be repaid, rather than giving away handouts, Yunus and micro-lenders like him &#8220;teach a man to fish&#8221; by enabling the poor to break out of the poverty cycle and support themselves.</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7187" title="kiva_logo" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/kiva_logo-150x150.jpg" alt="kiva_logo" width="132" height="132" />When I discussed all this with a friend, Stephen Wellington, he told me <a href="http://www.kiva.org/about">Kiva.org</a> was exactly what I was looking for.  And he was right.  Kiva builds on the work of Yunus and others by taking their micro-lending model to the next level.   Using the Internet, Kiva enables regular people like you and me to make micro-loans as small as $25 to people all over the world who want to lift their families out of poverty by starting their own businesses.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a typical example of how Kiva works: a family in Cambodia grows rice, but is barely subsisting.  They could greatly increase their rice production if they had a new plow and some fertilizer, but they don&#8217;t have the money for it.  So they submit a loan application for $600 to a local mico-lending agency<img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-7178 alignleft" title="Cambodia" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Cambodia-150x150.jpg" alt="Cambodia" width="150" height="150" /> in Cambodia that partners with Kiva.  The family&#8217;s loan request is then posted on Kiva, and that&#8217;s when the loan fund-raising begins.  With just a few mouse clicks, regular folks like you and me all over the world can pool our contributions of as little as $25 each to reach the $600 total that the family needs.  Once the loan money has been raised, Kiva sends it to the local micro-lending agency, which disburses the loan funds to the family in need.  Every month, the family makes small re-payments to the local micro-lending agency in Cambodia, which are sent back to Kiva and put in your Kiva account.  When you receive a monthly repayment, you can either cash out and get your money back, or re-loan the money to another family in need.</p>
<p>This month is our family&#8217;s one-year anniversary with Kiva.  A year ago we spent a Family Home Evening with our children reviewing loan requests on <img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7190" title="fhe10" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/fhe101-150x150.jpg" alt="fhe10" width="150" height="150" />the Kiva website.  Because we were new to Kiva and therefore a little uncertain about its reliability, we decided to loan an amount of money that we thought could make a difference in a few families&#8217; lives, but that was small enough that we could accept losing completely if it all turned out to be a scam.  So we took $500 and divided it amongst a few families from a few different countries: the Cambodian family already mentioned; a mother in Peru needing funds to expand her door-to-door grocery business; a father in Mongolia needing funds to repair his mini-bus for his transportation business; a father in the Philippines needing funds to expand his small hog farm; a mother in Senegal needing funds to buy ice-cream making equipment, etc.</p>
<p>As we received the monthly re-payments, we immediately re-loaned the money in $25 increments to other families.  We also received Kiva video updates from the field about the families we were assisting. (See an example <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofLQtOnADko">here</a>.)  These video updates provided our children with a window to the world, showing them how families around the world struggle to support themselves, and helping our children develop a greater awareness of, and desire to help, those in need.</p>
<p>So what were the results of our family&#8217;s first year experimenting with Kiva?  With just our $500 initial contribution of loan funds, which we re-loaned to other families in $25 increments as loans were repaid, we were able to:</p>
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<li>Make a total of 40 loans . . .</li>
<li>in a total amount of $1,275 . . .</li>
<li>to families in 21 different countries (Azerbaijan, Bolivia, Cambodia, Dem. Rep. of Congo, Dominican Republic, Ghana, Indonesia, Kenya, Mongolia, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Rwanda, Senegal, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Togo, Uganda, and Ukraine) . . .</li>
<li>$783 of which has already been repaid . . .</li>
<li>with a delinquency rate (late payments) of 7.38% . . .</li>
<li>and a default rate of 6.25 % (higher than the Kiva average of 1.65%) . . .</li>
<li>meaning our total loss after one year has been only $25 (one loan in the Dominican Republic).</li>
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<p>Our family&#8217;s contribution has been just one tiny drop in the ocean of Kiva lending.  Just last week on Kiva: 3,629 new lenders joined; 11,207 lenders made a loan; 2,344 entrepreneurs were funded; and $752,850 was lent, at a rate of one loan every 23 seconds.</p>
<p>Overall, our family has fallen in love with the concept of micro-lending, because we&#8217;ve discovered that by re-lending funds as they are repaid, we were able to do $1,275 worth of good with our $500 initial contribution of loan funds.  Over the coming years, the amount of good that $500 initial contribution does will only multiply.  And with a loss of only one $25 loan that defaulted, we&#8217;ve learned that Kiva, its field partners, and its borrowers are trustworthy enough to continue lending to them for years to come.</p>
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		<title>The Sesame Street Approach to Primary</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The children&#8217;s television series Sesame Street premiered November 10, 1969. I was just turning 10 years old, so I didn&#8217;t watch it very much as a child. But in the mid-1980&#8242;s, with several preschoolers, the show became a staple in our home. Wikipedia describes the program as follows: Sesame Street uses combinations of animation, puppets, and live actors to stimulate young children&#8217;s minds, improve their letter and word recognition, basic arithmetic, geometric forms, classification, simple problem solving, and socialization by showing children or people in their everyday lives. Since the show&#8217;s inception, other instructional goals have been basic life skills, such as how to cross the street safely, proper hygiene, healthy eating habits, and social skills; in addition, real-world situations are taught, such as death, divorce, pregnancy and birth, adoption, and even all of the human emotions such as happiness, love, anger and hatred. Sesame Street just fascinated me. Although it was geared to teaching and entertaining my young children, I couldn&#8217;t get over how much of the show was aimed at the parents. There were often references to historical figures, rock stars, and cultural allusions, and even innuendo that only adults would recognize. The humor written into the show [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The children&#8217;s television series Sesame Street premiered November 10, 1969.  I was just turning 10 years old, so I didn&#8217;t watch it very much as a child.  But in the mid-1980&#8242;s, with several preschoolers, the show became a staple in our home. Wikipedia describes the program as follows:<br />
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<blockquote><p>Sesame Street uses combinations of animation, puppets, and live actors to stimulate young children&#8217;s minds, improve their letter and word recognition, basic arithmetic, geometric forms, classification, simple problem solving, and socialization by showing children or people in their everyday lives. Since the show&#8217;s inception, other instructional goals have been basic life skills, such as how to cross the street safely, proper hygiene, healthy eating habits, and social skills; in addition, real-world situations are taught, such as death, divorce, pregnancy and birth, adoption, and even all of the human emotions such as happiness, love, anger and hatred.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sesame Street just fascinated me.  Although it was geared to teaching and entertaining my young children, I couldn&#8217;t get over how much of the show was aimed at the parents. There were often references to historical figures, rock stars, and cultural allusions, and even innuendo that only adults would recognize. The humor written into the show allowed parents and children to enjoy it together.  There were guest celebrities like Ralph Nader, Maya Angelou, Barbara Bush, Johnny Cash, Mel Gibson, Yo Yo Ma, and Barbara Walters, to name only a few.  I especially loved &#8220;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Monsterpiece+theater&amp;search_type=&amp;aq=f">Monsterpiece Theater</a>,&#8221; presided over by Alistair Cookie.  For example, watch &#8220;The Taming of the Shoe&#8221; and notice the underlying adult themes.  See how enjoyable this sketch is for both children and adults:<span id="more-7210"></span></p>
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<p>The reason I mention Sesame Street in connection with Primary is because I have heard a lot of complaining about how difficult it is for adults who have Primary callings to spend the majority of their Church instructional time with the little children.  Primary workers often feel a void in their spiritual and social needs, and a Sesame Street approach could help.  As a young mother working in the Primary, I recall a Primary President who used this very method.  She was a very intellectual woman, who naturally related well to adults but not to children.  Being extremely motivated, she worked hard on developing interest segments including songs, games, and activities that would appeal to young children.  But as she taught, she would comment and make little asides that would reference the adult Sunday School lesson, conference talks, politics, or even ward gossip.  I found myself looking forward to the stimulation I received from the Primary sharing time given by this woman.</p>
<p>Sesame Street was a pioneer in contemporary educational television.  Many hours were put into research, production and curriculum planning to discover what would be the most effective ways of reaching and teaching both children and adults.  It seems to me that with the amount of time both children and adults in the Mormon Church spend in Primary, a greater effort could be spent to improve this time.  The Church Educational System (CES) has been in place to support teaching of teenagers and adults, but has little to do with religious education of members under the age of 12 on the stake and ward levels.  Besides the development and printing of class manuals, there doesn&#8217;t seem to be much energy allocated to this age group.</p>
<p>Each year the General Primary Presidency develops a <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=8608e35d4ff0c110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;vgnextoid=198bf4b13819d110VgnVCM1000003a94610aRCRD">themed program</a> for the Primary.  Though the theme varies year to year, it always includes monthly emphasis on such topics as Baptism, Obedience, God the Father, Jesus Christ, the Plan of Salvation, Prophets, the Temple, and the family.  Outside of these guidelines, local units are left to decide how they will implement the Primary program within their units.  Primary often struggles with getting competent and reliable teachers and personnel to run an adequate program.  I&#8217;ve been wondering how the Primary fares in areas other than my own.  Do you feel that the Primary provides sufficient religious instruction for children in your area?  How do we compare to programs like Sesame Street? Is there an emphasis on a well-staffed Primary in your locale?  How supported and trained are the adults who administer the Primary in your ward?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comment on any of the following articles – or anything else from the sidebar – or any other article of interest to this forum that we missed. There is no such thing as being normal If Kaimi were in dire straits, he would prefer to render unto Caesar what is Caesar&#8217;s Apparently, marriage is hard work Gayby Boomers? Silly name, interesting phenomenon An explanation for Utah bankruptcies I don&#8217;t think PETA would approve of this Aren&#8217;t you glad we have calculaors? Even Orson Scott Card realizes that Mormonism is a culture Another reason to have more kids &#8211; Placenta Helper The Bible &#38; Book of Mormon don&#8217;t teach of THIS Holy Ghost New Dehli: New gay rights in a deeply conservative country]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://betchadidntknow.blogspot.com/2009/07/are-you-normal.html">There is no such thing as being normal </a></p>
<p><a href="http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/07/misguided-faith/">If Kaimi were in dire straits, he would prefer to render unto Caesar what is Caesar&#8217;s </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1908243,00.html">Apparently, marriage is hard work </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife/06/28/gayby/index.html">Gayby Boomers? Silly name, interesting phenomenon </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_12668785">An explanation for Utah bankruptcies </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0suNdrQK13o">I don&#8217;t think PETA would approve of this </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIiDomlEjJw">Aren&#8217;t you glad we have calculaors?</a></p>
<p><a href="http://mormontimes.com/mormon_voices/orson_scott_card/?id=9578">Even Orson Scott Card realizes that Mormonism is a culture </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1908194,00.html">Another reason to have more kids &#8211; Placenta Helper </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&amp;sid=7024344">The Bible &amp; Book of Mormon don&#8217;t teach of THIS Holy Ghost </a></p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090702/ap_on_re_as/as_india_gay_rights">New Dehli: New gay rights in a deeply conservative country </a></p>
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		<title>mothers really are the primary nurturers</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 07:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have long been dismayed by the seemingly arbitrary idea that mothers should be first in charge of nurturing their children, with fathers there to step in and &#8220;help&#8221; as an equal partner. I have recently received some &#8220;further light and knowledge&#8221; on this topic. For the past three years or so I have become very interested in attachment theory. Basically, it says that we have an evolutionary necessity to seek out closeness or security to significant others. It ensures survival as the infant seeks proximity to its caregiver. Without emotional connection and touch, infants will die despite having their other needs met. As adults, it is more emotional than physical. Think of Tom Hanks&#8217; character in Cast Away. Isolated from society and separated from the one he loves, he creates his friend Wilson to keep him company, even risking his life once to save Wilson. This basic attachment need is with us from the &#8220;cradle to the grave.&#8221; 1  Whether we deny it, ignore it, ramp it up and become overly anxious, or embrace it, it is there to stay&#8211;in all of us. Infants have a hierarchy of attachment figures&#8211;usually but not always a relative. The primary attachment figure [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have long been dismayed by the seemingly arbitrary idea that mothers should be first in charge of nurturing their children, with fathers there to step in and &#8220;help&#8221; as an equal partner. <span id="more-5971"></span></p>
<p>I have recently received some &#8220;further light and knowledge&#8221; on this topic. For the past three years or so I have become very interested in attachment theory. Basically, it says that we have an evolutionary necessity to seek out closeness or security to significant others. It ensures survival as the infant seeks proximity to its caregiver. Without emotional connection and touch, infants will die despite having their other needs met.</p>
<p>As adults, it is more emotional than physical. Think of Tom Hanks&#8217; character in Cast Away. Isolated from society and separated from the one he loves, he creates his friend Wilson to keep him company, even risking his life once to save Wilson. This basic attachment need is with us from the &#8220;cradle to the grave.&#8221; 1  Whether we deny it, ignore it, ramp it up and become overly anxious, or embrace it, it is there to stay&#8211;in all of us.</p>
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<p>Infants have a hierarchy of attachment figures&#8211;usually but not always a relative. The primary attachment figure is the one whom the child usually prefers when distressed, or whom the child seeks out, monitors, or attempts to maintain proximity to. Basically, the one whom the infant prefers to be <em>nurtured</em> by. It seems normal to assume that the parent who is around the child more, or is the most caring would naturally be the primary attachment figure. If the father is the stay-at-home parent, wouldn&#8217;t he be the primary attachment figure, i.e the primary nurturer?</p>
<p>Not in most cases. This role is usually given by mother nature to mothers, regardless of how involved she is with her child.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;The fact that infants preferentially seek proximity to their moth</em><em>er derives from the reality that attachment is mainly a function of availability. Interestingly&#8230;even when the mother works outside the home an</em><em>d the father is de facto the primary parent, the mother is still strongly preferred.&#8221; </em>2</p>
<p>One of the foremost attachment researchers, <a href="http://psychology.berkeley.edu/faculty/profiles/mmain.html" target="_blank">Mary Main</a>, suggests that this may be due to the infant&#8217;s prenatal experience. I wonder if there are any studies with primary attachment figures and adopted childr<img class="alignright" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XBUosZvaNC8/SNRp3RQoOII/AAAAAAAAAAM/7B2xRgznKj0/S220/DSC00200.JPG" alt="" width="220" height="147" />en.</p>
<p>This finding softened my feelings a bit. While I am certainly capable of nurturing my son, it is okay with me that he generally prefers my wife first&#8230; especially now that I understand it a little more. It also tells me that this part of the Proclamation is spot on. Mothers <em>are</em> the primary nurtures, AND there are cases where individual adaptation is better, or necessary.</p>
<p>1. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bowlby" target="_blank">John Bowlby</a></p>
<p>2. David Wallin, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Attachment-Psychotherapy-David-Wallin-PhD/dp/1593854560/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1245966084&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">Attachment in Psychotherapy</a></p>
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		<title>Women are from Venus, Men are from Kolob</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Based on my experience, I would guess that the majority of LDS women under age 65 would say that polygamy is NOT an eternal principle and that it doesn&#8217;t require any earthly worrying as a result.  While the men are probably not worrying about it (although any of them who are married to me should think twice about expecting additional wives in the future), my impression is that a higher percentage of them believe it is an eternal principle that will be practiced long term. Are the men in the church far more polygamy-neutral in their views than the women?  If so, it probably depends on how much they buy into the idea of traditional patriarchy (in which the man demands a hot dinner on the table nightly in Fred Flintstone fashion).  Most LDS husbands are fairly progressive in my experience, changing diapers and being nurturing, considering themselves equal caregivers to their children.  Even so, my guess is that many LDS men figure it could be polygamous later or not and that if not, cool, and if so, bonus!  In which case, I kind of want to kick their teeth in.  No offense. To bolster this assumption, men who are consecutively monogamous in their lifetime may [...]]]></description>
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<div>Based on my experience, I would guess that the majority of LDS women under age 65 would say that polygamy is NOT an eternal principle and that it doesn&#8217;t require any earthly worrying as a result.  While the men are probably not worrying about it (although any of them who are married to me should think twice about expecting additional wives in the future), my impression is that a higher percentage of them believe it is an eternal principle that will be practiced long term.<span id="more-5189"></span></div>
<div>Are the men in the church far more polygamy-neutral in their views than the women?  If so, it probably depends on how much they buy into the idea of traditional patriarchy (in which the man demands a hot dinner on the table nightly in <span id="lw_1241216302_0" class="yshortcuts" style="background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 0%; cursor: pointer;">Fred Flintstone fashion</span>).  Most LDS husbands are fairly progressive in my experience, changing diapers and being nurturing, considering themselves equal caregivers to their children.  Even so, my guess is that many LDS men figure it could be polygamous later or not and that if not, cool, and if so, <em>bonus</em>!  In which case, I kind of want to kick their teeth in.  No offense.</div>
<div><img src="http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200804/r243519_991051.jpg" alt="http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200804/r243519_991051.jpg" width="147" height="100" />To bolster this assumption, men who are consecutively monogamous in their lifetime may be sealed to more than one spouse while women who are consecutively monogamous are not sealed to more than one spouse.  Is that evidence that there will be polygamy in the eternities, or simply that leaders used to believe that, and the church is slow to change?  My guess is that we are simply slow to change, and that barring a mandate from Heaven, most of the leaders assume (perhaps rightly) that it will all be worked out in the end.</div>
<div>Ray has elsewhere shared his heterodox view that relationships in the eternities will be non-sexual and possibly polyandrous.  That sounds a little like the Greek Gods minus the sex.  I&#8217;m neither convinced nor dismissive of this notion, and so I include it as an interesting theory.</div>
<div><img src="http://blogs.psychologytoday.com/files/u15/Polyandry_I.jpg" alt="http://blogs.psychologytoday.com/files/u15/Polyandry_I.jpg" width="155" height="122" />But still, I wonder what the rest of you think will be the case in the eternities.</div>
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<div>Isn&#8217;t it weird that this kind of thing even crosses our minds?  So, am I correct in thinking that men are less repulsed by the idea of eternal futuristic polygamy?  How would men feel if it were polyandry instead of polygamy?</div>
<div>Discuss.</div>
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		<title>Interfaith International British DJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 06:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK Paul technically isn&#8217;t exactly an international DJ, not unless you consider that you can listen to his interviews on line. He&#8217;s a returned missionary and member of the Grays Ward in the Romford Stake Essex England.  Paul got the show after being a presenter at Hospital Radio Chelmsford for a year and chased a local station for airtime: &#8220;When I was asked to join Phoenix FM the station manager warned me that radio presenting wasn&#8217;t all easy but in fact involved a lot of voluntary service too.  I responded that I was a missionary in France for 2 years for the church and was used to giving service to others, as well as being actively involved in the church weekly.  The station manager was intrigued by this and I was invited to the station to explain more about my religious beliefs and the voluntary service I had done in France.  I was then offered the chance to begin a brand new religious show once a week that they had been wanting to start but couldn&#8217;t find anyone with the religious background to do it.  I put together the idea for a chat show where he would bring in local [...]]]></description>
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<p>OK Paul technically isn&#8217;t exactly an international DJ, not unless you consider that you can listen to his interviews on line.</p>
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<p><span style="&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">He&#8217;s a returned missionary and member of the Grays Ward in the Romford Stake Essex England.  Paul got<span class="moz-txt-citetags"> </span>the show after being a presenter at Hospital Radio Chelmsford for a<span class="moz-txt-citetags"> </span>year and chased a local station for airtime:</span></p>
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<p><span style="&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&#8220;When I was asked to join Phoenix FM the station manager warned me that<span class="moz-txt-citetags"> </span>radio presenting wasn&#8217;t all easy but in fact involved a lot of<span class="moz-txt-citetags"> </span>voluntary service too.  I responded that I was a missionary in France<span class="moz-txt-citetags"> </span>for 2 years for the church and was used to giving service to others, as well as being actively involved in the church weekly.  The station <span class="moz-txt-citetags"><span> </span></span>manager was intrigued by this and I was invited to the station to explain more about my religious beliefs and the voluntary service I<span class="moz-txt-citetags"> </span>had done in France.  I was then offered the chance to begin a brand new religious show once a week that they had been wanting to start but couldn&#8217;t find anyone with the religious background to do it.  I put together the idea for a chat show where he would bring in local religious leaders and ask them about their beliefs on air and their views on current issues.&#8221;</span></p>
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<p>Mark Pinchin and Ian Clarkson from the <strong>Church of Scientology</strong> &#8211; Listen   <a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/upload/Mark%20P%20250309.mp3">here</a></p>
<p><strong>Highlights:</strong></p>
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<p style="-18pt;"><span style="Symbol;"><span style="none;"> </span></span><!--[endif]-->10 million members around the world.<span style="Symbol;"><span style="none;"> </span></span><!--[endif]--><span> </span>Their anti-drug program “Say no to drugs say yes to life”. <span style="Symbol;"><span style="none;"> </span></span><!--[endif]-->Human rights educational programme and other great work they do in the community.   We discussed the 8 dynamics<span style="Symbol;">, the<span style="none;"> </span></span><!--[endif]-->founder of the church L. Ronald Hubbard and<span style="Symbol;"><span style="none;"> </span></span><!--[endif]-->where the word “Scientology” comes from.</p>
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<p style="-18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><strong>The core beliefs of the church of Scientology are:</strong></p>
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<p>Great Interviews ( <em>All the ads and music have been stripped out</em>)</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2754.php"><strong> </strong></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2754.php"><strong>Habibur Rahman &amp; Forad Edu &#8211; Islam / Alfurqaan Foundation</strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2734.php"><strong>Father Matthew Bemand &#8211; St Thomas Church of England </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2732.php"><strong>Councillor Dudley Payne &#8211; Mayor of Brentwood </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2687.php"><strong>Mark Pinchin and Ian Clarkson &#8211; Scientology / Jive Aces </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2647.php"><strong>Ed Wellman &#8211; PhoenixFM Monday Classics </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2628.php"><strong>Richard Burch &#8211; Brentwood Buddhist Society </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2609.php"><strong>Chris Day &#8211; Crown Street Christian Fellowship </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2588.php"><strong>Reverand Peter Thomas (Baptist) </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2567.php"><strong>Reverand Trevor Jamison (United Reformed Church) </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2541.php"><strong>Julian May &#8211; ELIM </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2479.php"><strong>Father Paul Keane &#8211; Brentwood Catholic Cathedral </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2459.php"><strong>Bishop David Barter</strong></a></p>
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<p><span class="moz-txt-citetags"> </span>The show can be seen at <a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/proverbs98.php">www.phoenixfm.com/proverbs98.php</a></p>
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		<title>Worship or Whine?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 12:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Spector</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post was inspired by David Stout&#8217;s series of posts on LDS Worship, Part II and Part III as well as HawkGrrrl&#8217;s post entitled &#8220;More Christ at Church.&#8221; I&#8217;d like all the whining about the LDS Sacrament Meeting to stop.  I&#8217;d like to focus on how to make it a better and more meaningful weekly experience. Among the chief complaints one hears about Sacrament meetings are the following: Sacrament meeting is boring The music is boring, not diverse enough The speakers are boring It is always the same It is too quiet, not enough emotion It is too loud, kids make too much noise The Speakers are unprepared. They just read conference talks There is too little focus on Christ, not enough discussion of Him We don&#8217;t start on time We don&#8217;t end on time Aaronic Priesthood members must wear white shirts and ties What I have seen as a member of the congregation and from up on the stand: Members arrive late, some are chronic Loud conversations before start of meeting Not singing hymns Playing with cell phone, texting or whatever Preparing lessons Talking, especially during the Sacrament Service Reading other materials Eating and drinking Sleeping, no matter what [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post was inspired by David Stout&#8217;s series of posts on <a href="../../../../../2009/04/07/lds-worship/#more-4880">LDS Worship</a>, <a href="../../../../../2009/04/13/lds-worship-part-ii/#more-4901">Part II</a> and <a href="../../../../../2009/04/17/lds-worship-part-iii/#more-4959">Part III</a> as well as HawkGrrrl&#8217;s post entitled &#8220;<a href="../../../../../2009/04/30/more-christ-at-church/#more-5098">More Christ at Church</a>.&#8221;</p>
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<p>I&#8217;d like all the whining about the LDS Sacrament Meeting to stop.  I&#8217;d like to focus on how to make it a better and more meaningful weekly experience.</p>
<p>Among the chief complaints one hears about Sacrament meetings are the following:</p>
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<li> Sacrament meeting is boring</li>
<li> The music is boring, not diverse enough</li>
<li> The speakers are boring</li>
<li> It is always the same</li>
<li> It is too quiet, not enough emotion</li>
<li> It is too loud, kids make too much noise</li>
<li> The Speakers are unprepared.</li>
<li> They just read conference talks</li>
<li> There is too little focus on Christ, not enough discussion of Him</li>
<li> We don&#8217;t start on time</li>
<li> We don&#8217;t end on time</li>
<li> Aaronic Priesthood members must wear white shirts and ties</li>
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<p>What I have seen as a member of the congregation and from up on the stand:</p>
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<li> Members arrive late, some are chronic</li>
<li> Loud conversations before start of meeting</li>
<li> Not singing hymns</li>
<li> Playing with cell phone, texting or whatever</li>
<li> Preparing lessons</li>
<li> Talking, especially during the Sacrament Service</li>
<li> Reading other materials</li>
<li> Eating and drinking</li>
<li> Sleeping, no matter what time church starts</li>
<li> Lack of attention, just not listening</li>
<li> Distracted by caring for children, some avoidable, some not.</li>
<li> Refusal to remove children from Chapel, no matter how loud and disruptive.</li>
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<p>What I have also seen:</p>
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<li> Members arriving early, taking their seats, listening to prelude music</li>
<li> Singing hymns with enthusiasm</li>
<li> Actively participating in prayers, saying Amen</li>
<li> Listening, paying attention</li>
<li> Singing the Sacrament Hymn</li>
<li> Appearing contemplative during the Sacrament Service</li>
<li> Heads bowed, but not sleeping</li>
<li> Reading Scriptures</li>
<li> Not talking to others</li>
<li> Listening to talks</li>
<li> Taking notes</li>
</ul>
<p>The Lord gave a revelation to Joseph Smith specifically regarding Sacrament meeting when he said,</p>
<blockquote><p>Thou shalt offer a <em><sup>a</sup></em>sacrifice unto the Lord thy God in <em><sup>b</sup></em>righteousness, even that of a broken heart and a <em><sup>c</sup></em>contrite spirit. And that thou mayest more fully keep thyself <em><sup>a</sup></em>unspotted from the world, thou shalt go to the house of <em><sup>b</sup></em>prayer and offer up thy <em><sup>c</sup></em>sacraments upon my <em><sup>d</sup></em>holy day; For verily this is a <em><sup>a</sup></em>day appointed unto you to rest from your labors, and to pay thy devotions unto the Most High; (Doctrine and Covenants 59:8 &#8211; 10)</p></blockquote>
<p>The responsibility for a meaningful Sacrament Meeting experience rests with us as individual members. As we come prepared to partake of the Sacrament in remembrance of Our Savior Jesus Christ, offer up a broken heart and contrite spirit and seek to receive forgiveness and repentance for our sins, we can&#8217;t help but improve our own experience. In spite of the shortcomings of those who speak to us, in spite of the fact that topics may not be presented to us well, we need to remember that most everyone who gets an assignment to speak in Sacrament meeting WANTS to do a good job and uplift the members of the congregation.  We need to be chartable toward them.  If we are in the right frame of mind, we can surely receive at least a single bit of instruction or inspiration that we can make useful to us!</p>
<p>The Bishop and his counselors are responsible for assigning the topics to be spoken during Sacrament meeting and insuring the members are prepared to give a talk, which is Gospel and Christ-centered, no matter what the topic.  By its very nature, all Gospel topics should be tied back to the Savior at some point.</p>
<p>I think this quote from President Kimball says it all,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We do not go to Sabbath meetings to be entertained or even solely to be instructed. We go to worship the Lord. It is an individual responsibility, and regardless of what is said from the pulpit, if one wishes to worship the Lord in spirit and truth, he may do so by attending his meetings, partaking of the sacrament, and contemplating the beauties of the gospel. If the service is a failure to you, you have failed. No one can worship for you&#8221; (&#8220;The Sabbath-A Delight,&#8221; <em>Ensign,</em> Jan. 1978, 4-5).</p></blockquote>
<p>There is a story in the Church is may be Church lore or maybe not, but it goes somewhat like this,</p>
<p>A General Authority attended a Ward during a Sacrament Service. During the Sacrament Service he was offered the Sacrament, we refused it and it was passed to the next person.</p>
<p>A sister, observing this, approached the General Authority after the meeting,</p>
<p>&#8220;You, a General Authority,  not worthy to take the Sacrament?</p>
<p>&#8220;Dear Sister, I am sorry, but during the singing of the hymn, my mind wandered ever so slightly away from the Savior and as a result, I did not feel worthy to partake of the Sacrament.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope that we can try to have a more meaningful Sacrament meeting rather than focus on the shortcomings of the meeting itself.  After all, the shortcomings are really ours.</p>
<p>And for heaven sake&#8217;s, stopping whining about it!</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 07:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hawkgrrrl</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Often people have a hard time with intimacy (intimacy = &#8220;into me see&#8221;) because they feel vulnerable.  They would rather deal with ideas than people, and they don&#8217;t want others to see who they are.  They might feel insecure or care what others think of them.  People who feel this way wear what we call social masks to hide who they are and present a facade instead of their true self to others.  And sometimes, the mask people wear is the church. Surely, you have seen some of these folks: instead of communicating their true feelings, they use hackneyed cliche phrases (that are uniquely Mormon) to fit in they give the VT lesson never deviating to share their own true feelings unless those feelings could have been uttered by Julie Beck herself they prefer the standard Sunday School answers rather than thinking and sharing their own reflections they exercise a form of brand management:  doing the things that spell out &#8220;I&#8217;m a good Mormon,&#8221; and hiding anything that detracts from that image they are excessively careful of everything they say and do from a PR standpoint for the church What would you do if every time you wanted to talk [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Often people have a hard time with intimacy (intimacy = &#8220;into me see&#8221;) because they feel vulnerable.  They would rather deal with ideas than people, and they don&#8217;t want others to see who they are.  They might feel insecure or care what others think of them.  People who feel this way wear what we call social masks to hide who they are and present a facade instead of their true self to others.  And sometimes, the mask people wear is the church.<span id="more-5100"></span></p>
<p><img class="alignright" style="cursor: -moz-zoom-in;" src="http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/11140.jpg" alt="http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/11140.jpg" width="105" height="171" />Surely, you have seen some of these folks:</p>
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<li>instead of communicating their true feelings, they use hackneyed cliche phrases (that are uniquely Mormon) to fit in</li>
<li>they give the VT lesson never deviating to share their own true feelings unless those feelings could have been uttered by Julie Beck herself</li>
<li>they prefer the standard Sunday School answers rather than thinking and sharing their own reflections</li>
<li>they exercise a form of brand management:  doing the things that spell out &#8220;I&#8217;m a good Mormon,&#8221; and hiding anything that detracts from that image</li>
<li>they are excessively careful of everything they say and do from a PR standpoint for the church</li>
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<p><img class="alignright" src="http://www.authenticafricanbronzesandceramics.com/images/ifepiccola-w.jpg" alt="http://www.authenticafricanbronzesandceramics.com/images/ifepiccola-w.jpg" width="183" height="245" />What would you do if every time you wanted to talk to your spouse, you had to consider the church in the relationship?  What if every time your child wanted advice from you, you referred them to what a church leader said or taught instead of sharing yourself with them?  What if every relationship was colored by your feelings of guilt or anticipation related to your own spiritual standing?</p>
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<li>Every family member or friend&#8217;s struggle would be a sign of your guilt for having failed them OR a sign that you should cut them off so you will not be tainted by association.</li>
<li>Every new person you met would be an opportunity for a convert rather than a friend (and if not a convert, not a friend).</li>
<li>You would carefully choose your words and deeds to demonstrate to others around you that you are living up to what you think they expect.</li>
<li>If you ever did disagree with someone, you&#8217;d have to make sure that somehow your disagreement put YOU on the side of the church and THEM on the other side.</li>
<li>If your spouse suddenly stopped attending church or became disaffected, you would stop loving them because they jeopardized your &#8220;perfect&#8221; image or your expectations for the Celestial Kingdom.</li>
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<p>Matthew quotes Jesus as saying (Matt 10:34-37):</p>
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<p>34  Think not that I am come to send <sup>a</sup><a title="John 7: 43; TG Peace." type="C" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/10/34a"><span class="searchword">peace</span></a> on earth: I came not to send <span class="searchword">peace</span>, but a <span class="searchword">sword</span>.</p>
<p>35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.</p>
<p>36  And a man’s <sup>a</sup><a title="TG Persecution." type="B" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/10/36a">foes</a> <em>shall be</em> they of his own <sup>b</sup><a title="Micah 7: 6." type="A" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/10/36b">household</a>.</p>
<p>37  He that <sup>a</sup><a title="TG Love." type="B" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/10/37a">loveth</a> father or mother <sup>b</sup><a title="Luke 14: 26." type="A" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/10/37b">more</a> than me is not worthy of me: and he that <sup>c</sup><a title="1 Sam. 2: 29." type="A" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/10/37c">loveth</a> son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.</p></blockquote>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mAeKglEsHSs/Rpe0n-mP98I/AAAAAAAAABU/NZ8eHuRuAP8/s320/Molly%2BMormon.jpg" alt="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mAeKglEsHSs/Rpe0n-mP98I/AAAAAAAAABU/NZ8eHuRuAP8/s320/Molly%2BMormon.jpg" width="124" height="122" />It seems that this comes with a few caveats:</p>
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<li>The church does not equal Jesus, even if one believes Jesus is at the head of it.  The church is a human institution that should ideally inspire us and draw us closer to Him.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s pretty arrogant to put yourself (or your perceptions) in the role of Jesus and to assume that anyone who disagrees with you is rejecting you as the Savior was rejected.</li>
<li>Being righteous does not equal being right.  In fact, once you start getting too concerned about the latter, you can kiss the former goodbye.</li>
<li>The greatest two commandments are to love God and our fellow man as ourselves.  If we can&#8217;t even unconditionally love those closest to us (family and friends), how can we expect to love our enemies (also required)?</li>
<li>&#8220;Perfect love casteth out fear.&#8221;  We can&#8217;t love people if we are consumed by fear of rejection (from either man or God).</li>
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<p>Is this a particular problem in the church?  Do people really live their lives like this?  Do you know anyone like this?  Are you like this sometimes?  How do you take off the mask and &#8220;let your light so shine&#8221;?  Discuss.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 06:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As you know by know, I often like to talk about history.  So, I thought I would try to learn a little about Mother&#8217;s Day.  While there have been various movements over the centuries, in the United States, it seems the first Mother&#8217;s Day movement began just after the Civil War with Julia Ward Howe&#8217;s Mother&#8217;s Day Proclamation in 1870.  Julia was a poet, writer, journalist, women&#8217;s suffrage activist, and abolitionist. Anna Jarvis continued the cause, and created the Mother&#8217;s Day International Association in 1912.  The Vancouver Sun said, &#8220;She was specific about the location of the apostrophe; it was to be a singular possessive, for each family to honour their mother, not a plural possessive commemorating all mothers in the world.&#8221;  Woodrow Wilson was the president who first signed the law designating May 9, 1914, as the first Official Mother&#8217;s Day celebration. This past week at church, my bishop talked about how hard Mother&#8217;s Day can be for some people.  I remember dating a girl whose father had passed away, and she remarked that she hated Father&#8217;s Day for that reason.  I also thought about a brother and sister of mine who both passed away (separately) both leaving behind 4 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you know by know, I often like to talk about history.  So, I thought I would try to learn a little about Mother&#8217;s Day.  While there have been various movements over the centuries, in the United States, it seems the first Mother&#8217;s Day movement began just after the Civil War with Julia Ward Howe&#8217;s Mother&#8217;s Day Proclamation in 1870.  Julia was a poet, writer, journalist, women&#8217;s suffrage activist, and abolitionist.</p>
<p><img src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" /><span id="more-5302"></span>Anna Jarvis continued the cause, and created the Mother&#8217;s Day International Association in 1912.  The Vancouver Sun said, &#8220;She was specific about the location of the apostrophe; it was to be a singular possessive, for each family to honour their mother, not a plural possessive commemorating all mothers in the world.&#8221;  Woodrow Wilson was the president who first signed the law designating May 9, 1914, as the first Official Mother&#8217;s Day celebration. <strong> </strong></p>
<p>This past week at church, my bishop talked about how hard Mother&#8217;s Day can be for some people.  I remember dating a girl whose father had passed away, and she remarked that she hated Father&#8217;s Day for that reason.  I also thought about a brother and sister of mine who both passed away (separately) both leaving behind 4 young children.  Mother&#8217;s Day and Father&#8217;s Day is tough for my nieces and nephews.  I also think about how tough the day can be for childless couples who crave children.  As a person who got married much later in life than Mormon culture expects, I can personally tell you on behalf of me and my wife, how difficult Mother&#8217;s Day and Father&#8217;s Day can be for singles who desire marriage and children, yet remain unmarried for whatever the reason is.</p>
<p>How do we celebrate mothers and motherhood, and still be sensitive to those who may struggle with the holiday?</p>
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		<title>&#8220;Out-of-Wedlock&#8221; Is No Longer &#8220;Illegitimate&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a recent CNN.com/living article (&#8220;Out-of-wedlock births hit record high&#8221;), the discussion centered on the fact that the birth rate outside of marriage in the United States has risen nearly 25% in the past five years.  You read that correctly &#8211; 25% in 5 years.  The following are some representative quotes from that article: 1) &#8220;We would have headed down this path. The pregnancy just accelerated things,&#8221; she said of the couple&#8217;s cohabitation, the birth of Sadie and their 2005 wedding. &#8220;It was the way it was meant to be.&#8221; (Is this a statement of religious belief, or simply a description of fate?) 2) &#8220;Nearly 40 percent of babies born in the United States in 2007 were delivered by unwed mothers.&#8221; (Did anyone realize it was this high?) 3) &#8220;While 28 percent of white women gave birth out of wedlock in 2007, nearly 72 percent of black women and more than 51 percent of Latinas did . . . With the publicity of our first family, marriage might slowly become more of a norm for all. (That last sentence might be the most ironic statement in the entire article &#8211; that a liberal, Democrat who is a married President might [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright" src="http://www.tingliang-photo.com/html/Galleries/portrait/images/collage_babies.jpg" alt="" width="248" height="186" />In a recent CNN.com/living article (<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife/04/08/out.of.wedlock.births/index.html">&#8220;Out-of-wedlock births hit record high&#8221;</a>), the discussion centered on the fact that the birth rate outside of marriage in the United States has risen nearly 25% in the past five years.  You read that correctly &#8211; 25% in 5 years.  The following are some representative quotes from that article:<span id="more-4904"></span></p>
<p>1) &#8220;We would have headed down this path. The pregnancy just accelerated things,&#8221; she said of the couple&#8217;s cohabitation, the birth of Sadie and their 2005 wedding. <strong>&#8220;It was the way it was meant to be.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>(<em>Is this a statement of religious belief, or simply a description of fate?</em>)</p>
<p>2) &#8220;Nearly 40 percent of babies born in the United States in 2007 were delivered by unwed mothers.&#8221;</p>
<p>(<em>Did anyone realize it was this high?</em>)</p>
<p>3) &#8220;While 28 percent of white women gave birth out of wedlock in 2007, nearly 72 percent of black women and more than 51 percent of Latinas did . . . <strong>With the publicity of our first family, marriage might slowly become more of a norm for all.</strong></p>
<p>(<em>That last sentence might be the most ironic statement in the entire article &#8211; that a liberal, Democrat who is a married President might encourage marriage as a &#8220;norm&#8221;.</em>) <img class="alignnone" src="http://globaldiversitypress.typepad.com/.a/6a010536c1f37b970b010536e18140970b-800wi" alt="" width="688" height="303" /></p>
<p>4) &#8220;There are 9.8 million single mothers versus 1.8 million single fathers.&#8221;</p>
<p>(<em>So, is this really about women choosing, or is it about men not choosing?</em>)</p>
<p>5) &#8220;When <a href="http://www.cryobank.com/" target="new">California Cryobank</a>, which claims to be the world&#8217;s largest sperm bank, opened its doors in the late 1970s, 99 percent of its business catered to couples grappling with male infertility, spokesman Scott Brown said. Now, that market in the sperm donor world accounts for less than 14 percent, according to projections by Charles Sims, the organization&#8217;s co-founder and medical director.&#8221;</p>
<p>(<em>The article mentions lesbians explicitly as one demographic that has contributed to the declining percentage, but it also takes most of its examples from professional, career women who never marry or are divorced with no children.</em>)</p>
<p><img class="alignleft" src="http://invision-images.com/archive/stories/babies%20come%20from%20denmark/INV-THR-103/preview" alt="" width="225" height="105" />6) &#8220;Many of these mothers choose to tap known or anonymous sperm donors as the biological clock begins to pound. Perhaps they are like Morrissette, who divorced in her early 30s, wasn&#8217;t in a hurry to jump into another relationship and decided to have kids on her own.&#8221;</p>
<p>(<em>Iow, the woman really is fine without the man?</em>)</p>
<p>I found this article fascinating, particularly in light of the statements by LDS apostles and prophets about the destruction of the traditional family.  I wonder how everyone here reacts as they read the article and the quotes I&#8217;ve excerpted.</p>
<p><em>So, what are your thoughts about the rising number of out-of-wedlock births &#8211; and the pending death of &#8220;illegitimacy&#8221; when it comes to marriage and childbirth?  Which quote above struck you as the most interesting &#8211; and did any of them concern you more than the others?<br />
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		<title>Families Forver Naked and Not Ashamed</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 06:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mormon Matters Motto is Exploring Mormon culture in a balanced way- so bare with me on this one (excuse the pun). Recently we have read that Utah has the highest rate of pornography per capita compared to all other states here There has been a great deal of speculation about this on the bloggernacle. Could it be that Mormons have this penned up curiosity busting to get out (excuse the pun again). The internet has made pornography just a click away, not like in the days when you had to ask a grocery clerk to pull a magazine out from underneath the counter. I sometimes wonder with all the emphasis on staying away from drugs, alcohol, pornography if it is causing a worse problem by bringing it to the fore front constantly to members minds. For example don’t think of Christi Brinkley in a red dress, don’t think about hot percolated coffee, or an ice-cold beer. Could it be the more we constantly emphasize something the more good people who have been living a life of restricted behaviour all their lives start to feel they can’t do that forever without blowing up, then they cave in or take it underground? [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="Arial;">Mormon Matters Motto is Exploring <em>Mormon</em> culture in a balanced way- so bare with me on this one (excuse the pun). </span><span id="more-4833"></span></p>
<p><span style="Arial;">Recently we have read that Utah has the highest rate of pornography per capita compared to all other states </span><a href="http://media.www.studentprintz.com/media/storage/paper974/news/2009/03/31/Opinion/The-Internet.Is.For.Porn.Or.So.Say.The.Numbers-3691242.shtml">here</a></p>
<p><span style="Arial;">There has been a great deal of speculation about this on the bloggernacle. Could it be that Mormons have this penned up curiosity busting to get out (excuse the pun again). The internet has made pornography just a click away, not like in the days when you had to ask a grocery clerk to pull a magazine out from underneath the counter. </span></p>
<p><span style="Arial;">I sometimes wonder with all the emphasis on staying away from drugs, alcohol, pornography if it is causing a worse problem by bringing it to the fore front constantly to members minds.<br />
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<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/beer1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4836" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/beer1-300x116.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="116" /></a></p>
<p><span style="Arial;">For example don’t think of Christi Brinkley in a red dress, don’t think about hot percolated coffee, or an ice-cold beer. Could it be the more we constantly emphasize something the more good people who have been living a life of restricted behaviour all their lives start to feel they can’t do that forever without blowing up, then they cave in or take it underground?</span></p>
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<p><span style="#000000;"><span style="Arial;">Another view is of inoculation especially when it comes to nakedness or nudity. Christian nudist views are “Sexual decadence such as pornography and <a title="Pedophilia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia"><span style="#000000;">pedophilia</span></a> (paedophilia) is the direct result of a lack of exposure to nudity in childhood (particularly of the same approximate age). This is most likely to occur when combined with other factors such as extreme parental attitudes (e.g. body shame) and social isolation. They believe that those that are raised their entire lives within Christian naturism should not have any temptation<a title="Temptation" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temptation"></a> to engage in such behaviour “such as pornography.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="#000000;"><span style="Arial;">Their experience and testimony is that complete nakedness does not incite individuals to lustful thoughts, unlike for example, a revealing skimpy top that exposes a good deal of a woman&#8217;s cleavage or a very short mini-skirt. When naked, all body parts are seen as equal and non-sexualised. When clothed, the focus is on the private parts that are partly revealed and thus objectified and sexualised</span></span></p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/lds-skinny-dipper1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4840" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/lds-skinny-dipper1-300x101.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="101" /></a></p>
<p><span style="#000000;"><strong><span style="Arial;">Everything you wanted to ask LDS Naturists but were afraid to ask? </span></strong></span></p>
<p style="-18pt;"><span style="Arial;">Are there really Mormon Nudists?</span><span style="Arial;"> </span></p>
<p style="-18pt;"><span style="Arial;">How many active nudists are also active Mormons?</span><span style="Arial;"> </span></p>
<p style="-18pt;"><span style="Arial;">Where do you find other LDS members that have an interest in naturism?</span><span style="Arial;"> </span></p>
<p style="-18pt;"><span style="Arial;">Are there LDS naturist groups, clubs or organized activities that we can participate in?</span><span style="Arial;"> </span></p>
<p style="-18pt;"><span style="Arial;">How can you be a nudist and respect your Temple garments at the same time?</span><span style="Arial;"> </span></p>
<p style="-18pt;"><span style="Arial;">I know there are no scriptures or specific doctrine against it, but public nudity is just plain wrong &#8211; isn&#8217;t it?</span><span style="Arial;"> </span></p>
<p style="-18pt;"><span style="Arial;">Isn&#8217;t public nudity illegal?</span><span style="Arial;"> </span></p>
<p style="-18pt;"><span style="Arial;">Why get together with other LDS members?</span><span style="Arial;"> </span></p>
<p style="-18pt;"><span style="Arial;">Are Christian Naturists an anomalous group &#8211; acting ignorantly or in open defiance to their own doctrine against nudity?</span><span style="Arial;"> </span></p>
<p style="-18pt;"><span style="Arial;">Does &#8220;Body-Acceptance&#8221; place the flesh above the Spirit?</span><span style="Arial;"> </span></p>
<p style="-18pt;"><span style="Arial;">The church has given very clear council on modesty of dress &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t nudism be in conflict with that admonition?</span><span style="Arial;"> </span></p>
<p style="-18pt;"><span style="Arial;">Doesn&#8217;t being naked in close-company provide an excessive opportunity for temptation?</span></p>
<p style="18pt;"><span style="Arial;">Click</span><a href="http://www.ldssdc.info/_GENERAL/L-LDS-Naturism-FAQ.html"> here</a><span style="Arial;"> for the rest of the questions and answers<br />
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<p><span style="Arial;">A Utah Valley, Utah man writes about his first naturist experience&#8230;</span><a href="http://www.ldssdc.info/_FIRST-TIME/LS-FIRST-TIME.html">here</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">LDS Skinny Dipper Home Page <a href="http://www.ldssdc.info/">here</a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Please leave a <em>brief</em> reply (sorry couldn&#8217;t help it)</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only time I have seen Big Love is on a transatlantic flight back home to Salt Lake.  My initial thoughts were how amazing to have a church just like ours (almost) right in our back door and no one seems to know of it, as they keep it fairly discreet on the show. From what I saw these Josephites seem to be very similar (i.e. Family Prayer, FHE, Family Council, even similar programs and auxiliaries).  They even seemed to act like Mormons I grew up with. Since there was a split of Josephites from the Brighamites, wouldn’t most of these branches have similar temple ceremonies to ours?  If so shouldn’t they be the ones who are offended, not the Brighamites? Big Love episode draws criticism from LDS Church Before the first season of the HBO series Big Love aired more than two years ago, the show&#8217;s creator and HBO assured the Church that the series wouldn&#8217;t be about Mormons. Here Big Love Series to Show Rites from LDS Temples SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) &#8211; The HBO series &#8220;Big Love&#8221; will show its version of temple rites belonging to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.  The [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The only time I have seen Big Love is on a transatlantic flight back home to Salt Lake.  My initial thoughts were how amazing to have a church just like ours (almost) right in our back door and no one seems to know of it, as they keep it fairly discreet on the show.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">From what I saw these Josephites seem to be very similar (i.e. Family Prayer, FHE, Family Council, even similar programs and auxiliaries).  They even seemed to act like Mormons I grew up with.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Since there was a split of Josephites from the Brighamites, wouldn’t most of these branches have similar temple ceremonies to ours?  If so shouldn’t they be the ones who are offended, not the Brighamites?</p>
<h2>Big Love episode draws criticism from LDS Church</h2>
<p>Before the first season of the HBO series Big Love aired more than two years ago, the show&#8217;s creator and HBO assured the Church that the series wouldn&#8217;t be about Mormons.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_11874222">Here</a></p>
<h2>Big Love Series to Show Rites from LDS Temples</h2>
<p class="MsoNormal">SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) &#8211; The HBO series &#8220;Big Love&#8221; will show its version of temple rites belonging to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.  The episode is scheduled to air Sunday, March 15.</p>
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<h2>‘Big Love&#8217;s&#8217; promise to show LDS temple rituals has many crying foul</h2>
<p class="MsoNormal">Richard Cowan, a BYU professor of church history and doctrine, said:  &#8221;It isn&#8217;t something that we want to keep away from everyone who isn&#8217;t a member of our faith, but rather something we would like to share with those who are personally and spiritually prepared to appreciate it.&#8221;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&amp;sid=5803281">Here</a></p>
<h2>&#8216;Big Love&#8217; prompts LDS Church response and analysis</h2>
<p class="MsoNormal">Certainly church members are offended when their most sacred practices are misrepresented or presented without context or understanding.  Last week some church members began e-mail chains calling for cancellations of subscriptions to AOL, which (like HBO) is owned by Time Warner.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.mormontimes.com/around_church/general_authority/?id=6649">Here</a></p>
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		<title>Why aren&#8217;t Mormons Green?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have lived here in the UK -London for 20 years now and when friends and family come over they sometimes comment on how green we are over here. They observe that most of us dry our clothes on the  line, drive much smaller cars, live in shoe box’s compared to the average size of an American home, walk to the shops, use long life low wattage low energy bulbs, changing windows over for double glazing, doubling up on insulation, are becoming more obsessive about recycling, drive low emission high mpg diesel cars, save left over food, food portions at restaurants smaller and public transport used far more often and readily available. It amazes some of the Brits when they go to Utah to see how big the houses are especially in many cases for so few people who live in them.  Huge Ford Explorers, steak dinners that could feed a typical family of four.  When they go for the first time they come back thinking that it’s a land of excess. I know there have been many of the changes I have described above happening in Utah and throughout the states but there is not quite the buzz or [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have lived here in the UK -London for 20 years now and when friends and family come over they sometimes comment on how green we are over here. They observe that most of us dry our clothes on the  line, drive much smaller cars, live in shoe box’s compared to the average size of an American home, walk to the shops, use long life low wattage low energy bulbs, changing windows over for double glazing, doubling up on insulation, are becoming more obsessive about recycling, drive low emission high mpg diesel cars, save left over food, food portions at<span> </span>restaurants smaller and public transport used far more often and readily available.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It amazes some of the Brits when they go to Utah to see how big the houses are especially in many cases for so few people who live in them.  Huge Ford Explorers, steak dinners that could feed a typical family of four.  When they go for the first time they come back thinking<span> </span>that it’s a land of excess.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I know there have been many of the changes I have described above happening in Utah and throughout the states but there is not quite the buzz or emphasis on it that I see here at least IMO!</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I also have this theory that Mormons aren’t into green issues because</p>
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<li class="MsoNormal">Many believe the second      coming will be coming soon (God the creator of this earth will be able to      clean up the planet in a second, our efforts are pointless.</li>
<li class="MsoNormal">We have to get our      priorities right &#8211; family, missionary work, ward service, temple      work.  Being green is definitely not a priority now</li>
<li class="MsoNormal">If it was important the      prophet and apostles would be vigorously emphasizing it during conference.</li>
<li class="MsoNormal">It would be stressed and      accentuated in the manuals</li>
<li class="MsoNormal">Gas guzzling cars &#8211; God      created fossil fuels for our use.  He created this earth and when we      run out God will inspire man to come up with an alternative fuel &#8211; he      always provides for us.</li>
<li class="MsoNormal">God made fossil fuel for      our use and we are fortunate to be Americans and live in a place where      fuel is cheap and are blessed to be here.</li>
<li class="MsoNormal">We have proven ourselves in      the pre-existence and in this life and we deserve the just rewards for      being faithful members</li>
<li class="MsoNormal">An attitude of the more physical stuff I have cars, houses, boats shows were being blessed abundantly</li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span class="fullpost"><span style="&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">We have been hearing a lot about fuel and energy—about their high cost and limited supply, our unsafe and unpredictable dependence on their suppliers, and the need for new and sustainable sources of energy. I leave the discussion of these complicated issues to leaders of government and industry. The fuel I want to discuss is spiritual fuel. </span></span><span style="&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">Elder L. Tom Perry </span></li>
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		<title>Baptism Rant</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today&#8217;s post is by guest blogger The Teacher. I know what you are thinking:  &#8220;You have a rant about baptism?&#8221; Yes, I do.  One of my pet peeves is telling innocent little kids that they need to repent of their sins in order to get baptized.  You hear it with surprising frequency, like at almost every baptism service you attend, and at lots of Primary Sharing Times.  And take, for example, this line from the song &#8220;I Like to Look for Rainbows,&#8221; sung at every Primary-run baptism I have been to in the recent past: I know when I am baptized, my wrongs are washed away, and I can be forgiven and improve myself each day How did this get past correlation?  Did they not read the scriptures cited in D&#38;C 29: 46-47 which tells us that little children are incapable of sin and are redeemed from the foundation of the world.  Moroni 8: 9-12 says that little children do not need repentance and are alive in Christ. I would be hard-pressed to identify an LDS doctrine I like more than the redemption of little children.  It is beautiful and merciful, and intuitively true.  So, why do we find ourselves [...]]]></description>
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<p>I know what you are thinking:  &#8220;You have a rant about baptism?&#8221;</p>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://www.fefc.org/images/children_baptism.jpg" alt="" width="239" height="170" />Yes, I do.  One of my pet peeves is telling innocent little kids that they need to repent of their sins in order to get baptized.  You hear it with surprising frequency, like at almost every baptism service you attend, and at lots of Primary Sharing Times.  And take, for example, this line from the song &#8220;I Like to Look for Rainbows,&#8221; sung at every Primary-run baptism I have been to in the recent past:</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I know when I am baptized, my wrongs are washed away, and I can be forgiven and improve myself each day</p>
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<p>How did this get past correlation?  Did they not read the scriptures cited in D&amp;C 29: 46-47 which tells us that little children are incapable of sin and are redeemed from the foundation of the world.  Moroni 8: 9-12 says that little children do not need repentance and are alive in Christ.</p>
<p>I would be hard-pressed to identify an LDS doctrine I like more than the redemption of little children.  It is beautiful and merciful, and intuitively true.  So, why do we find ourselves telling innocent little kids that they need to repent of their &#8220;sins&#8221; to get baptized?</p>
<p>I know that there are scriptures out there that say you have to repent in order to be baptized.  I know that there are scriptures that say that children have to be accountable and capable of repentance in order to get baptized.  But &#8220;capable of repentance&#8221; and &#8220;needing repentance&#8221; are two different things.</p>
<p>One of the most difficult scriptures on this topic for me is D&amp;C 20:37, which says that candidates for baptism should &#8220;truly manifest by their works that they have received the Spirit of Christ unto the remission of their sins.&#8221;  Oliver Cowdery tried to get this phrase removed from the Book of Commandments, but Joseph insisted that it remain in.  How does this qualification for baptism, which Joseph Smith felt was truly inspired, square with child baptism?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong.  I think we should teach our children about repentance and help them understand it.  I think they need to know what it is and how it works by the time they reach the &#8220;age of accountability.&#8221;  But to me, baptism for an 8-year old is different than for an adult.  It is about obedience.  It is about discipleship.  It is about entering the strait gate and joining the Lord&#8217;s church.  It is not about repenting and remitting sins.  What sins has an eight-year old committed?</p>
<p>But am I wrong here?  Am I misunderstanding something?</p>
<p>End of rant.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thought I&#8217;d catch your attention with that line from &#8220;Saturday&#8217;s Warrior,&#8221; the bane (or bastion, if you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about) of Mormon doctrine.*  There was an interesting article in NYT about how children can negatively impact marriages.  So, what&#8217;s the real scoop on these tiny little homewreckers?  Read on . . . The article pointed to some flawed gems of conventional wisdom: Kids cement marital happiness.  Definitely not always true.  (see below) Empty nesters feel bereft and abandoned.  You wish!  Now that you&#8217;re gone, they can get down to doing all the stuff they&#8217;ve been putting off for 20 years:  travelling, reading, rock climbing, key parties, whatever. There was more quality family time back in the &#8220;good old days.&#8221;  Not at all.  Studies show that parents spend much more time with kids than they used to spend back when housework took over twice as long.  Even in homes where both parents work, kids often get more quality time with BOTH parents than those of previous generations.  Debunked! So, how are these little rugrats destroying marriages, at least in today&#8217;s environment, and are Mormons more prone to these problems due to our focus on families?  According to the article: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought I&#8217;d catch your attention with that line from &#8220;Saturday&#8217;s Warrior,&#8221; the bane (or bastion, if you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about) of Mormon doctrine.*  There was an interesting <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/05/opinion/05coontz.html?_r=2&amp;th&amp;emc=th">article </a>in NYT about how children can negatively impact marriages.  So, what&#8217;s the real scoop on these tiny little homewreckers?  Read on . . .<span id="more-4163"></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/father_knowsbest200.jpg"></a>The article pointed to some flawed gems of conventional wisdom:<a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/father_knowsbest200.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-4164 alignright" title="father_knowsbest200" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/father_knowsbest200.jpg" alt="" width="115" height="91" /></a></p>
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<li><strong>Kids cement marital happiness</strong>.  Definitely not always true.  (see below)</li>
<li><strong>Empty nesters feel bereft and abandoned.</strong>  You wish!  Now that you&#8217;re gone, they can get down to doing all the stuff they&#8217;ve been putting off for 20 years:  travelling, reading, rock climbing, key parties, whatever.</li>
<li><strong>There was more quality family time back in the &#8220;good old days.&#8221;</strong>  Not at all.  Studies show that parents spend much more time with kids than they used to spend back when housework took over twice as long.  Even in homes where both parents work, kids often get more quality time with BOTH parents than those of previous generations.  Debunked!</li>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/african20family.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4165" title="african20family" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/african20family.jpg" alt="" width="166" height="120" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">So, how are these little rugrats destroying marriages, at least in today&#8217;s environment, and are Mormons more prone to these problems due to our focus on families?  According to the article:<a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/african20family.jpg"></a></p>
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<li>Having kids when you either don&#8217;t want them or are ambivalent about them can be disastrous for a marriage.  <em><span style="color: #0000ff;">Do people succumb to pressure to have kids when they don&#8217;t want them? </span></em></li>
<li>Having kids to solidify a rocky marriage (seriously, do people still do this?) is likely to backfire (to which I say &#8220;duh!&#8221;).  <em><span style="color: #0000ff;">Do people honestly think it will all work out if they just have kids?</span></em></li>
<li>Slipping into &#8220;traditional&#8221; roles as anything other than a matter of choice leads to resentment from both spouses and rocky marriages.  <em><span style="color: #0000ff;">Do people get sucked into traditional roles against their choice?</span></em></li>
<li>Spending too much time helicoptering over your kids and not enough time together as a couple or in adults-only time weakens marriages.  <em><span style="color: #0000ff;">Are we so focused on kids that we forget adult time?</span></em></li>
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<p>It&#8217;s no secret the church advocates traditional roles, is pro-procreation (when will the earth be plenished already?), and encourages family time.  Do Mormon couples experience these 4 pitfalls more frequently as a result, about the same, or less than others?  Are these issues we should be concerned about?  Do you know people for whom these issues have cause major marital strife?  If there is pressure that causes people to act outside their best interests, from whence does that pressure come, and how should it be dealt with.  My view is there are 3 kinds of pressure:</p>
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<li><strong>External</strong>.  This is pressure from society, church, or family (other than spouse) to do what they want you to do or think is best for you.  It is best taken with a grain of salt if it conflicts with either of the next two.</li>
<li><strong>Intra-Marriage</strong>.  This is pressure from your spouse to do what s/he desires OR possibly what s/he thinks is best for you.  This is why people need to go into a marriage with their eyes wide open and full disclosure on things like kids &amp; careers.  But you have to do what you both can to accomodate and understand one another and arrive at a common place.</li>
<li><strong>Internal</strong>.  These are your feelings and desires and even your expectations of yourself and others.  It could be biological clock stuff, perfectionism, or your life&#8217;s goals and dreams.  You have to be true to yourself and to learn to love yourself and others, even when your desires may differ.  This is stuff you have to work through alone or in prayer as well as with your spouse, but ultimately, it&#8217;s up to you.</li>
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<p>That&#8217;s my way of looking at things, anyway.  But yours may differ.  Discuss.</p>
<p>*If you&#8217;ve never heard of &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_population">Zero Population</a>&#8221; before, that&#8217;s because the last time that term was used was before Donny Osmond had armpit hair.</p>
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