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		<title>Increased Civility in Our Conversations</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On this Good Friday, I want to make a request based on a wonderful post I read over at By Common Consent by one of my favorite writers, Russell Arben Fox.  It is entitled &#8220;Friday Reflections on Mormonism and the Cross&#8221; &#8211; and it can be read in its entirety at the following link: http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/04/02/friday-reflections-on-mormonism-and-the-cross/ I am going to include my own thoughts on that post &#8211; then take this post in a very different direction. When I talk about the Atonement, I also reference the Sermon on the Mount – and I emphasize the command to be perfect. The wording in verse 48 says, “Be ye therefore perfect.” In the overall context of Chapter 5, I agree that this conclusion means that we become “perfect” by becoming the type of “blessed” person described in the previous verses. Finally, our footnotes for verse 48 define being perfect as being “complete, whole, fully developed” – and I re-word that as “finished”. It only was at the end of his time on the cross that Jesus declared, “It is finished” – just before he “gave up the ghost”. Iow, it only was after the cross that the Atonement was complete – that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this Good Friday, I want to make a request based on a wonderful post I read over at By Common Consent by one of my favorite writers, Russell Arben Fox.  It is entitled &#8220;Friday Reflections on Mormonism and the Cross&#8221; &#8211; and it can be read in its entirety at the following link:</p>
<p><a href="http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/04/02/friday-reflections-on-mormonism-and-the-cross/">http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/04/02/friday-reflections-on-mormonism-and-the-cross/</a></p>
<p>I am going to include my own thoughts on that post &#8211; then take this post in a very different direction. <span id="more-10262"></span></p>
<p>When I talk about the Atonement, I also reference the Sermon on the Mount – and I emphasize the command to be perfect. The wording in verse 48 says, “Be ye therefore perfect.” In the overall context of Chapter 5, I agree that this conclusion means that we become “perfect” by becoming the type of “blessed” person described in the previous verses. Finally, our footnotes for verse 48 define being perfect as being “complete, whole, fully developed” – and I re-word that as “finished”.</p>
<p>It only was at the end of his time on the cross that Jesus declared, “It is finished” – just before he “gave up the ghost”. Iow, it only was after the cross that the Atonement was complete – that Jesus fulfilled his own command to “be ye therefore perfect.”</p>
<p><strong>I honor Gethsemane, but when we ignore Golgotha we worship an incomplete, paritally developed, imperfect Savior and Redeemer.</strong></p>
<p>However, how does this apply to my own life &#8211; and, more specifically, my participation in a forum like Mormon Matters? </p>
<p>I was blessed to be raised with a mother who never once raised her voice to anyone &#8211; not in anger and not in any other way. I can say honestly that I have never heard her condemn anyone. When we did something we shouldn’t have done, she would automatically tear up <strong>because of what she feared our actions, if continued, would do to us.</strong> Those tears were worse BY FAR than anything my dad did to punish us, but it was not transmitted through a sense of guilt. <strong>It came across obviously and strongly as a deep and abiding love for us and concern for who we would become.</strong></p>
<p>I have a deep and abiding desire for respectful conversation and mutual understanding explicitly because of what I saw my mother live. She was loved, truly and deeply, by everyone who met her, and I wish I was like that more fully.</p>
<p>Elder Wirthlin’s words about accepting all within the orchestra (not just the piccolos) resonated with me largely because of my upbringing, but my experience since beginning to blog also made his words ring clearly to me. I have seen so much contention and bickering and vitriol, even here at Mormon Matters, and it pains my soul &#8211; <strong>especially when I know what it does to people</strong>.</p>
<p>I don’t ask for compassion in commentary simply because of what it does to a conversation; <strong>I ask for it also because of what it can do within those who comment.  </strong></p>
<p>I ask for an increase in civility in our conversations today as a token of our worship, respect, admiration, reverence and/or acknowledgment of He who &#8220;finished&#8221; his work without revililng those who were the instruments of that end. </p>
<p>My question for everyone is simple:</p>
<p>How can we recognize the part we play in incivility &#8211; and how can we create a healthy, diverse, open, civility here that will be special and meaningful for ALL who participate &#8211; even those with whom we disagree strongly?</p>
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		<title>Are We Cross at the Cross?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I was getting ready for church one Sunday, I went to put on a necklace. I looked at the cross that a non-LDS family member gave me a few years ago. She knows I&#8217;m a Christian and I&#8217;m sure she thought it would be a nice gesture (which it absolutely was!), but I opted for the heart necklace instead. I&#8217;ve worn my cross out in public many times and I personally have no problem with it. But I&#8217;ve yet to wear it to church.  This got me thinking about something I&#8217;ve never been quite sure about. How do we Mormons really feel about the cross? It&#8217;s one of those things that we don&#8217;t really discuss very often, but over the years I&#8217;ve heard everything from respect to disdain from Mormons for the symbol of Christianity. Some reasons that I&#8217;ve heard the cross being absent from Mormon life is that: a) It&#8217;s more of a Catholic or Protestant symbol and we are neither b) The cross represents some terrible crimes that have been committed in the name of Christianity, such as the Crusades, and we don&#8217;t want to be associated with that c) The cross has become nothing but a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><strong></strong>As I was getting ready for church one Sunday, I went to put on a necklace. I looked at the cross that a non-LDS family member gave me a few years ago. She knows I&#8217;m a Christian and I&#8217;m sure she thought it would be a nice gesture (which it absolutely was!), but I opted for the heart necklace instead. I&#8217;ve worn my cross out in public many times and I personally have no problem with it. But I&#8217;ve yet to wear it to church. </p>
<p>This got me thinking about something I&#8217;ve never been quite sure about. How do we Mormons <em>really</em> feel about the cross? <span id="more-3968"></span>It&#8217;s one of those things that we don&#8217;t really discuss very often, but over the years I&#8217;ve heard everything from respect to disdain from Mormons for the <span id="lw_1232855673_0" class="yshortcuts" style="border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; cursor: pointer;">symbol of Christianity</span>. Some reasons that I&#8217;ve heard the cross being absent from Mormon life is that:</p>
<p>a) It&#8217;s more of a Catholic or Protestant symbol and we are neither<br />
b) The cross represents some terrible crimes that have been committed in the name of Christianity, such as the Crusades, and we don&#8217;t want to be associated with that<br />
c) The cross has become nothing but a fashion statement for most<br />
d) We want to focus on the <span id="lw_1232855673_1" class="yshortcuts" style="background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 0%; cursor: pointer;">Resurrection</span> and not so much the <span id="lw_1232855673_2" class="yshortcuts" style="border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; cursor: pointer;">Crucifixion</span></p>
<p>Non-LDS Christians are often quick to notice the lack of crosses in LDS chapels and materials. When they&#8217;ve asked me about it, I usually give them the speech citing reason d), about how we don&#8217;t use the cross because we prefer to focus on Christ&#8217;s resurrection and the fact that we believe that He lives, instead of focusing on his death. I don&#8217;t feel like I&#8217;m lying when I give them the speech, but I have wondered about other possible reasons. I will summarize a story that I remember reading once, which illustrated how some Mormons feel about the cross. A non-LDS Christian woman entered the home of an LDS family. The non-LDS woman was wearing a cross, and somehow the subject came up. When asked why they did not use the cross, the LDS woman said that she could explain it this way: <span style="font-style: italic;">&#8220;If one of your loved ones was killed in a car accident, would you wear a car around your neck to remember them?&#8221;</span></div>
<div>I find that the lack of crosses in the LDS religion makes it hard for other Christians to identify with us. While I understand our need to differentiate ourselves from other Christians because of our unique doctrine, I sometimes fear that our missing crosses make it more difficult for skeptical non-LDS Christians, many of whom are already highly suspicious of Mormons, to even call us Christians <span style="font-style: italic;">(much like how many can ask how <span id="lw_1232855673_3" class="yshortcuts" style="border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; cursor: pointer;">Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses</span> can call themselves Christians when they don&#8217;t celebrate Christmas)</span>. And yet at the same time, Mormons are often lamenting over the fact that other Christians don&#8217;t consider us to be Christians. It&#8217;s easy to understand their skepticism when we have seemingly rejected the most fundamental symbol of Christianity. </p>
<p>Personally, I accept the reasoning that we choose to focus on the fact that Christ lives. But at the same time, remembering and honoring the Crucifixion is a vital element in giving His life the significance that it deserves. If we focus only on the Resurrection, the Atonement seems to lose some of its meaning &#8212; at least for me. I&#8217;ve visited many Catholic and Protestant churches and cathedrals throughout my travels and have always been impressed by all the paintings, statues and icons depicting Christ on the cross. I find them to be very moving, as they capture a special spirit that I haven&#8217;t felt anywhere else &#8212; not even in the <span id="lw_1232855673_4" class="yshortcuts" style="border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; cursor: pointer;">LDS Church</span>. I love Mormon art of the Saviour, but I find traditional crucifixes to be something unique and unmatched in beauty. I remember being in Münich, Germany and visiting a small store which sold Catholic art, crucifixes and statues of Christ and the <span id="lw_1232855673_5" class="yshortcuts" style="border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; cursor: pointer;">Virgin Mary</span>. I remember thinking how beautiful they were and that I would proudly display them in my own home, except for the fact that other Mormons would find it so strange.</p>
<p>So aside from when I&#8217;m at church, I will continue to wear my cross whenever I feel like it. Most probably won&#8217;t even notice but if they do, they will either:</p>
<p>a) Assume that I&#8217;m just trying to be fashionable<br />
b) Assume I&#8217;m just another Catholic or Protestant<br />
c) Not care</p>
<p>Ironically, I think the only ones who would notice would be fellow Mormons who know me.</p></div>
<div>Questions:</div>
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<li>Have you or would you wear a cross or crucifix to meetings in the LDS Church?</li>
<li>Would you display a cross, crucifix, or a traditional Christian work of art where the cross is prominent, in your home?</li>
<li>Do you think that we should be more open to using and displaying the cross (at least outside of official LDS Church capacities), or will we lose our unique Christian-Mormon identity by doing so?</li>
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