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		<title>Erotica versus Pornography&#8230;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seeing as how we are doing some restructuring at Mormon Matters, I am going to take advantage of this &#8220;space&#8221; to encourage communication around issues and questions that often come up on my blog.  Because sexuality represents such a high percentage of what I&#8217;m being asked about by LDS members, I am currently working on my &#8220;sex therapist&#8221; accreditation.  Although I am qualified to do sex therapy as a Marriage &#38; Family Therapist, I am wanting extra training in this area.  So please bear with my topic and join me in sharing your thoughts on these types of  &#8220;Mormon Matters.&#8221;  Maybe my focus on sexuality will encourage those of you who want to see other topics covered on this site to submit manuscripts for possible posting   (Manuscripts can be submitted to natasha.parker@sbcglobal.net or mormonstories@gmail.com). I think it is important to correctly define the term &#8220;erotica.&#8221; literature or art dealing with sexual love. literary or artistic works having an erotic theme or quality If you&#8217;ve ever gone to a movie where there is a passionate kiss, if you&#8217;ve ever read a book that describes a romantic relationship, if you&#8217;ve ever gone to a museum and seen art depicting human anatomy [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Seeing as how we are doing some restructuring at Mormon Matters, I am going to take advantage of this &#8220;space&#8221; to encourage communication around issues and questions that often come up on my blog.  Because sexuality represents such a high percentage of what I&#8217;m being asked about by LDS members, I am currently working on my &#8220;sex therapist&#8221; accreditation.  Although I am qualified to do sex therapy as a Marriage &amp; Family Therapist, I am wanting extra training in this area.  So please bear with my topic and join me in sharing your thoughts on these types of  &#8220;Mormon Matters.&#8221;  Maybe my focus on sexuality will encourage those of you who want to see other topics covered on this site to submit manuscripts for possible posting <img src='http://mormonmatters.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   (Manuscripts can be submitted to natasha.parker@sbcglobal.net or mormonstories@gmail.com).<br />
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<p><span id="more-12909"></span>I think it is important to correctly define the term &#8220;erotica.&#8221;</p>
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<li><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/erotica"> literature or art dealing with sexual love.</a></li>
<li> literary or artistic works having an erotic theme or quality</li>
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<div>If  you&#8217;ve ever gone to a movie where there is a passionate kiss, if you&#8217;ve  ever read a book that describes a romantic relationship, if you&#8217;ve ever  gone to a museum and seen art depicting human anatomy in a sensual way  or a loving embrace, if you&#8217;ve ever listened to a song describing  physical yearning; you&#8217;ve been subject to erotica.  Sexuality and  sensuality are such an integral part of the human experience that it is  bound to be captured by artists, historians, musicians, poets, authors,  photographers, etc.  A simple love letter between spouses can be termed  erotica.  Some of our scriptures are forms of poetic erotica- <em>Genesis 2:24-</em><em>25:</em><em>Therefore shall a man</em><em> leave his father</em><em> and his mother, and shall cleave</em><em> unto his wife</em><em>: and they shall be one </em><em>flesh.</em><em> And they were both naked,</em><em> the man and his wife, and were not ashamed</em>.   Works of art, music and literature can open our personal human  experience to one where we are more in touch with our spirit and body &#8211;  where our souls are stirred &#8211; where inspiration can be elicited &#8211; and  where we can join with our eternal companion on a deeper and more  intimate level.</div>
<div>Erotica can be a wonderful part of  tuning into our personal sexual selves.  It can awaken feelings and  arousal that in turn help us connect with our partners.  The key, of  course,  is to be able to discern wholesome and appropriate forms of  erotica from what crosses the line into pornography.  I&#8217;m sure there  would be great disagreement among our members as to what would  constitute &#8220;appropriate&#8221; erotica. I have hope and faith  that married couples can respectfully decide for themselves what is of  worth within their relationship.  However, some questions that might be  helpful in appropriate discernment could include: Does this material  include anything that would be considered abusive, harmful or demeaning?  Is the sole purpose of this material to be sexually explicit?  Is the  purpose of this material to make money off of sex?</div>
<div>I  would caution regarding the question, &#8220;Does this make me feel  uncomfortable?&#8221;  There are many legitimate reasons why we may feel  uncomfortable and we should not ignore those feelings.  However, the  fact remains that many of us are inappropriately uncomfortable with the  feelings of sexual arousal due to our upbringings, history, etc.  A  better question would be, &#8220;Why does this make me feel uncomfortable?,&#8221; &#8221;  Is this an appropriate reason?,&#8221;  and &#8220;Does my spouse agree with me  that this falls under inappropriate material?&#8221;  If not, &#8220;Why do we  differ?&#8221;  These types of questions asked between a couple can open up a  new and introspective dialogue that can help intimacy to grow &#8211; even if  disagreements are not resolved.</div>
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<div>&#8220;Part  of sexual growth is exploring different forms of sensual-sexual  expression.  Erotic themes are expressed in many ways &#8211; music, art,  literature, and photography.  The word <em>erotic</em> means that something sexual is suggested or depicted in the content,  which in turn is likely to evoke sexual feelings in the person who is  viewing or reading the material.&#8221;</div>
<div>Taken from <em>Becoming Orgasmic</em> by Julia R. Heiman, PhD and Joseph LoPiccolo, PhD</div>
<div>It  is interesting that some of the literature choices included by these  authors as &#8220;erotica&#8221; include such classics as The Fountainhead by Ayn  Rand.  <em>The Outlander </em>by  Diana Gabaldon is an erotic piece of literature set within the realms  of matrimony (it does contain strong language and violence as it is set  in the 1700&#8242;s conflict between England and Scotland). Within Mormon  culture many men are at a loss as to why their wives are enthralled with  the <em>Twilight </em>Series  by Stephenie Meyer.  Yet this story of passion and everlasting love has  left many women describing to me remembrances stirred of the courtships  they experienced with their now-husbands and a renewed sense of desire  to feel that passion again.</div>
<div><em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kiss_%28Klimt_painting%29">The Kiss</a></em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kiss_%28Klimt_painting%29"> </a>by Gustav Klimt is a good example of passionate art.</div>
<div><a href="http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;rls=en&amp;q=to+really+love+a+woman&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8"><em>Have You Ever Really Loved a Woman?</em></a><a href="http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;rls=en&amp;q=to+really+love+a+woman&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8"> by Bryan Adams</a> is a good example of erotica in the form of music.</div>
<div>Pablo Neruda (Chilean) is considered one of the best hispanic poets of all time.  In <em>100 Love Sonnets,</em> Stephen Tapscott writes about his decision to translate these works:  &#8220;We don&#8217;t have much of a tradition of love poetry in North America, and  these poems seem to introduce attitudes of sensual joy of a sort that we  &#8211; Anglophones, at least &#8211; have never been very comfortable with, nor  very adept at expressing.  Neruda seemed a natural choice, both because  of his poems&#8217; own worth and because of what he might contribute to our  North American tradition, a voice of intelligent sensual joy.&#8221;</div>
<div>Here are a 3 Neruda samples that would be a great addition to a spousal love letter:</div>
<div>1.  As we close this nocturnal door, my love</div>
<div>come with me, through the shadowy places.</div>
<div>Close your dreams, Love, enter my eyes with your skies,</div>
<div>spread out through my blood like a wide river.</div>
<div>Your body is smooth as stones in the water,</div>
<div>your kisses are clusters of fruit, fresh with dew.</div>
<div>As I live by your side, I live with the earth.</div>
<div>2.  Full woman, flesh-apple, hot moon,</div>
<div>thick smell of seaweed, mud and light in masquerade,</div>
<div>what secret clarity opens through your columns?</div>
<div>What ancient night does a man touch with his senses?</div>
<div>Oh, love is a journey with water and stars,</div>
<div>with drowning air and storms of flour,</div>
<div>love is a clash of lightnings,</div>
<div>two bodies subdued by one honey.</div>
<div>3.  Kiss by kiss I travel your little infinity,</div>
<div>your borders, your rivers, your tiny villages,</div>
<div>and a genital fire &#8211; transformed, delicious -</div>
<div>slips through the narrow roadways of the blood</div>
<div>till it pours itself, quick, like a night carnation, till it is:</div>
<div>and is nothing, in shadow, and a glimmer of light.</div>
<div>MM readers:</div>
<div>What are your thoughts about erotica?  How would you classify it as different from pornography &#8211; or would you?  Have you found it beneficial in your life?  Do you agree or disagree with me regarding its role in the human story?</div>
<div>How do the messages we receive through church teachings form our views regarding erotica?</div>
<div><em>Natasha Helfer Parker is a Licensed Clinical Marriage and  Family              Therapist and a member of the Church with 13 years of     experience         working   with LDS members. Here she shares with us       representative       cases from  her  practice and insights she has      gained  from her  work  as a     therapist.   She  blogs at <a href="http://mormontherapist.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">mormontherapist.blogspot.com</a>.</em></div>
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		<title>The Blog that Ate Religion</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;The Blob&#8221; was one of those horror movies from the 1950&#8242;s that I, as a young boy, found right on the boundary of &#8220;too scary to watch&#8221;. The blob that consumed everything you saw as safe was scary, to be sure, but at least, at the end, a young Steve McQueen could save the day.  (The scariest movie, because of its utter hopelessness, was &#8220;On the Beach&#8221;.) And so the &#8220;blob has come down to us as something that is scary only to the very young. A younger Christianity once found science very scary &#8212; although history shows the conflict to be a little less about science versus religion, and a little more about intra-church politics than we usually notice. But eventually, much of the Christian world reached a peace treaty with the secular world based on the notion of non-overlapping magisteria. Religion has its realm; science has another. Peace is kept by neither side jostling the other. However, many people do not realize just how much territory has been ”occupied” since Galileo first stood under the judgment of the church centuries ago.  They are still debating evolution when the science, like the 1950′s horror monster, has already enveloped them and moved [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Blob&#8221; was one of those horror movies from the 1950&#8242;s that I, as a young boy, found right on the boundary of &#8220;too scary to watch&#8221;. The blob that consumed everything you saw as safe was scary, to be sure, but at least, at the end, a young Steve McQueen could save the day.  (The scariest movie, because of its utter hopelessness, was &#8220;On the Beach&#8221;.) And so the &#8220;blob has come down to us as something that is scary only to the very young.</p>
<p>A younger Christianity once found science very scary &#8212; although history shows the conflict to be a little less about science versus religion, and a little more about intra-church politics than we usually notice. But eventually, much of the Christian world reached a peace treaty with the secular world based on the notion of <em>non-overlapping magisteria</em>. Religion has its realm; science has another. Peace is kept by neither side jostling the other.</p>
<p>However, many people do not realize just how much territory has been ”occupied” since Galileo first stood under the judgment of the church centuries ago.  They are still debating evolution when the science, like the 1950′s horror monster, has already enveloped them and moved on.</p>
<p>As science acquires the capacity to explain more and more that we once considered miraculous — as it asserts the <em>authority</em> to enter what had once been ceded as the magisterium of the church — what <em>responsibility</em> does it have to maintain rigorous scientific standards in drawing conclusions about phenomena in the newly “occupied” territories? How does science envelop religion while still being respectful of religion, and <em>faithful</em> (irony fully intended) to science?</p>
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<p>The following paragraphs describe some things that come out of simple extrapolation of basic Western science.  Simply an exercise in consciousness-raising about consciousness when you look at science on time scales well within our technological imaginings, let alone out into deep time where all of human history looks like the lifespan of a mayfly. These are among the miracles that science asserts the capacity (now or eventually) to explain. So what does science owe religion? And what does science owe science?</p>
<p><strong><em>CONTROLLED EVOLUTION</em></strong></p>
<p>Within the lifetime of Charles Darwin, his half-cousin, Sir Francis Galton put forward the notion of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics"> eugenics</a> as an approach to improving humanity as a whole by selectively encouraging breeding of people felt to have desirable traits and discouraging breeding by people with undesirable traits. Of course, Galton did not originate the practice of “negative eugenics” — societies have been culling the weak in times of stress to preserve resources for the group as a whole for thousands of years. But eugenics quickly gained the support of some of the most famous and progressive personalities in American and British society early in the 2oth Century.</p>
<p>After the horrors of Hitler’s Germany, eugenics seemed to have died. However, the ethical issues never seem to be far away and underlie a whole set of concerns reemerging in modern medicine as possibilities of cloning, stem cell research, or designer babies force us to confront the growing power of biotechnology to probe and, sooner, than we might have thought, take control of the expression of our own genetic heritage.</p>
<p>I don’t know whether this power will be good or bad; I suspect learning to use new powers are always part of growing up as moral beings. My point, however, is that the growing intensity of the debate simply shows how near the powers are to becoming scientific reality. We’re talking about the development of significant genetic modifications perhaps on the time frame it took to go from the Wright brothers to Mars landers.</p>
<p>This would give us powers to cure many diseases and create many new material goods – which is why so much money is being poured into biotechnology — but what might it also create? Would we want to increase our average IQ by 20%? Make our bodies age more slowly? Change our bodily forms to more closely match cultural sexual ideals? Make ourselves more accepting of our cultural norms and belief systems? Those are all things we’ve already tried to produce in our children <em>without</em> conscious control of our genetics. Even questions about the meaning of life — or at least why we ask questions about the meaning of life that we choose to ask — can rapidly fall within a controlled evolution paradigm.</p>
<p><strong><em>CYBERLIFE</em></strong></p>
<p>Cyberlife is another element that is on the science horizon, and that is forcing us to think anew about what it means to be “alive”. Perhaps it may someday force us to ask what it means to be self-aware. We already all use “anti-viral” software to protect ourselves from programming code that replicates and spreads. More interestingly, we have discovered that mimicking evolution <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitness_landscape#Fitness_landscapes_in_evolutionary_optimization"> can be a highly efficient way of optimizing</a> computer programs to solve some extraordinarily complex problems.</p>
<p>Finding ways to create machines that can achieve goals in the real world — to create <a href="http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/whatisai/whatisai.html"> artificial intelligence</a> &#8212; at a level comparable to humans has been an active area of science since the 1950′s. In some ways it has been enormously successful. In other ways it has been enormously disappointing. The mechanisms that underlie some human problem solving play to the enormous speed and memory advantages of computers, but some of the methods used by our minds don’t appear to rely on those strengths at all. For example, as the artificial intelligence link above points out, computers are great at playing chess, but inferior at playing “go”, despite vast effort at programming computers to play the latter game.</p>
<p>This suggests an approach of increasingly improving life by matching machine intelligence with human intelligence — although it will cost a lot more than the $6 million man of the TV show — to get the best of both types of intelligence. We already have myoelectric prosthesis, in which signals from residual nerve clusters in the human body are sensed by electrodes and used to more naturally control the movement of artificial limbs. What the human brain might be able to control remotely by mind with a few centuries (decades?) of technological development — power systems, transportation systems, etc. — is clearly a question subject to scientific exploration.</p>
<p><strong><em>LONG-LIVED TECHNOLOGY</em></strong></p>
<p>The modern species of humanity has been around on the order of 100,000 years, according to the best fossil and mitochondrial DNA evidence. Civilizations based on agriculture rather than nomadic hunter-gatherer methods have been around on the order of 10,000 years. Civilizations based on rudimentary scientific observation beyond that necessary for agriculture have been around longer than, but on the order of, 1000 years. The industrial revolution began on the order of 100 years ago.</p>
<p>Human technological capabilities do seem to be accelerating. But how far? What if technological civilization lasts 1000 years more? Ten thousand years more? One million years? If our capabilities are god-like to our ancestors living at the end of the last ice age, would we even be able to relate to the capabilities of our descendents 1,000.000 years from now? Would we even recognize them as our descendents?</p>
<p>And what about civilizations elsewhere that got millions of years of a head start on us? The search for such civilizations has itself been a matter of science since at least the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation"> Green Bank Conference</a> in 1960. There are even classification systems for the level of technology in such civilizations, at least <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale"> one of which extrapolates from growth</a> in energy consumption the emergence of a galaxy-wide human civilization in as little additional time as the time humanity has already been on earth &#8212; a time that is a geological nothing.</p>
<p>________________________________</p>
<p>Again, my point in the above discussion is that these are <strong>all</strong> issues that science already considers within the realm of scientific inquiry. They all can and do generate papers and presentations in peer-reviewed journals and conferences. And I haven’t even touched any of the exotic ideas that scientists are suggesting as working hypotheses to explain gaps we <em>know</em> we do not understand!</p>
<p>The above topics are simply extrapolations of things we think we do know. Their uncertainty is so large that they have little or no predictive value. They permit earth to be everything from the most advanced civilization currently alive in the galaxy to the equivalent of a preserve for primitive wildlife. But the issues are clearly within the realm of science as scientists (in some disciplines, at least) <em>already</em> practice it.</p>
<p><strong>And I have long since crossed the border defined between the natural and the supernatural, between the scientific and the philosophical or theological, when the concept of non-overlapping magisteria was defined in the West.</strong></p>
<p>So I am suggesting that the boundary between science and religion can no longer be a matter of the phenomena being described themselves. It isn’t about whether or not we consider the meaning of facts versus the nature of facts either. As I’ve noted above, science is already probing scientifically the “meaning of meaning” as it probes the mysteries of the human brain and infers things about the nature of the human mind. It isn’t even about repeatability, since evolution and history themselves are sciences, yet we are nowhere close to hoping to repeat them even in simulations.</p>
<p>But as it contemplates its new responsibilities over what once was the realm of religion, science has a responsibility to itself not to fall into the same logical trap it claims creationists fall into: “If hypothesis X (evolution) can not explain everything, than hypothesis Y (creationism) need not yet explain anything, no matter how large the holes in hypothesis Y in absolute terms.” The same logical trap exists when X is religious, and Y is secular instead.</p>
<p>Science cannot start accepting sloppy evidence for its own explanations of the “miraculous”, i.e., evidence so sloppy it would not accept the evidence in any other field of its own endeavors.</p>
<p>In fiction, we can have Sherlock Holmes say, “When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains — however improbable — must be the truth.” I would suggest that for science to be true to its own methods, even when dealing with the “miraculous”, it must say something else.  “When you have eliminated the impossible, and whatever remains is still highly improbable, it is <em>most probable</em> that you have not yet imagined the truth.”</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week I spent a supper hour (it took that long) reading an article called “America’s Ruling Class – And the Perils of Revolution” by Angelo Codevilla. The overall article is well worth reading to better understand current political debates, but that wasn’t what called my attention to it as a possible subject for Mormon Matters. Rather, the following paragraph toward the end of the Article startled me: “Nothing has set the country class apart, defined it, made it conscious of itself, given it whatever coherence it has, so much as the ruling class&#8217;s insistence that people other than themselves are intellectually and hence otherwise humanly inferior. Persons who were brought up to believe themselves as worthy as anyone, who manage their own lives to their own satisfaction, naturally resent politicians of both parties who say that the issues of modern life are too complex for any but themselves. Most are insulted by the ruling class&#8217;s dismissal of opposition as mere &#8220;anger and frustration&#8221; &#8212; an imputation of stupidity &#8212; while others just scoff at the claim that the ruling class&#8217;s bureaucratic language demonstrates superior intelligence. A few ask the fundamental question: Since when and by what right does intelligence [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week I spent a supper hour (it took that long) reading an article called <em>“America’s Ruling Class – And the Perils of Revolution”</em> by <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2010/07/21/america039s_ruling_class_238037.html"> Angelo Codevilla.</a></p>
<p>The overall article is well worth reading to better understand current political debates, but that wasn’t what called my attention to it as a possible subject for Mormon Matters. Rather, the following paragraph toward the end of the Article startled me:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<strong>Nothing has set the country class apart, defined it, made it conscious of itself, given it whatever coherence it has, so much as the ruling class&#8217;s insistence that people other than themselves are intellectually and hence otherwise humanly inferior.</strong> Persons who were brought up to believe themselves as worthy as anyone, who manage their own lives to their own satisfaction, naturally resent politicians of both parties who say that the issues of modern life are too complex for any but themselves. Most are insulted by the ruling class&#8217;s dismissal of opposition as mere &#8220;anger and frustration&#8221; &#8212; an imputation of stupidity &#8212; while others just scoff at the claim that the ruling class&#8217;s bureaucratic language demonstrates superior intelligence. <strong>A few ask the fundamental question: Since when and by what right does intelligence trump human equality?</strong> Moreover, if the politicians are so smart, why have they made life worse?” <strong>[Emphases added.]</strong></p></blockquote>
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<p>When I read the <strong>bolded</strong> sentences above I almost sputtered to myself. “<em>Of course, the intelligent should…”</em> And then I remembered a series of conversations I had with my wife-to-be several decades ago when I was getting my baptism into the government policy environment in the DC area and she was free-lancing as a classical musician in New York City. When I visited her, it seemed her colleagues were always complaining about how little funding there was for the arts. When we were alone together, this conversation often continued as she noted that the government seemed to have plenty of money to pay <em>me</em> well for what <em>I</em> did. (I had enough spare cash at the time to fly back and forth between the two cities; she once, I found out later, had to walk home from seeing me off at the airport.) I had initially defended my privilege with exactly the same “<em>Of course…”</em> sputtering.</p>
<p>Well, true love triumphed, and we long ago moved on to debate other issues in our marriage, but my memory of those conversations stopped the sputtering, and I could start taking the article’s <em>fundamental </em>question seriously.</p>
<p>What trumps “the worth of all persons”, to use a Community of Christ terminology? Is it intelligence, which we now measure in our culture by having accrediting bodies grant us degrees that say we are intelligent? It is a very seductive idea, until I start to examine it closely. Why does a master’s degree in physics make me more intelligent than my wife’s masters degree in classical music makes her? She can play a piano; she gets calls to do that more often than I get called upon to solve third order differential equations (and she can still do it from memory, too). Who’s more useful? How many of me does society actually need?</p>
<p>Other cultures have believed (<em>do</em> believe?) that the basis of rule should be the ability to defeat enemy armies, to belong to a divinely-favored race or gender or ethnicity, or even a dubious claim to be sired by a previous member of the ruling class.  Shouldn&#8217;t I be willing to question the basis of my belief in the rule of &#8220;intellect&#8221;.</p>
<p>I am proud of my degrees and my connections to what Codevilla’s article calls the “ruling class”. My pride shows, no matter how hard I try to become conscious of it and question my cultural assumption. Oh, oh!</p>
<p>Ancient people of many cultures built monuments to their gods. Often, it became a little confusing about whether the monuments were built to the gods, or whether the people who built them believed they <em>were</em> gods. In places like Egypt or Meso-America there eventually was no mistaking that the pyramids were about the rulers.</p>
<p>I look at the great monuments in Washington. Some are monuments to political demi-gods of the past. But some seem clearly monuments to the present rulers themselves. Oh, oh! In fact, the places you see Senators or House Representatives being interviewed on TV are not the most ornate Congressional office buildings. The newest structures have multi-floor glass walled interiors that work poorly with reflections from TV lights, so they go unseen by most people without day-to-day business there. (And why did I bother to tell you that? Oh, oh!)</p>
<p>Other monuments are ideological. If you can’t get your name on a monument (or at least an office building in your local district), get your name on a law. In the sciences, get an effect, or a theory, or an equation named after you. Win a prize. Leave your mark on history.</p>
<p>In the Book of Mormon, the falling of people into the “pride cycle” is frequently thematically associated with the wearing of “costly apparel”. Those on the fringes of the ruling class could not build monuments, but they could signal their membership in that class to everyone by what they wore. If we take Meso-America as a model, they could make themselves into living pyramids of expensive cloth, jade, or shell.</p>
<p>And the more widely those signs spread (physically or metaphorically), the more ideas like “the worth of all persons” became illusionary self-deception. The more people were excluded from the ruling class, the more strongly those still on the fringe found it necessary to justify doing ever-more-questionable things to hang on to the symbols of status. The gulf between the classes widened into violence.</p>
<p>I am very much on the “fringe” of my culture’s ruling class. I can signal my membership in that class through my university affiliations, the reports I’ve co-authored, the conferences and advisory hearings I’ve attended, and the offices of the government officials who’ve passed me written “attaboys”. I can make my pyramid out of paper, and my mark on history can last digitally until the digital formats themselves become obsolete. Oh, oh!</p>
<p>Intellectualism is not a vice. Neither is being a member of <em>any</em> elite. But could membership in a ruling &#8220;intellectual&#8221; elite be the <em>particular</em> form of the pride cycle to which our modern Western culture can be tempted?</p>
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		<title>Doubting My Doubts</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew S</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve occasionally heard a curious phrase&#8230;&#8221;Doubt your doubts.&#8221; &#8220;Be skeptical of your skepticism.&#8221; I have wondered what these phrases could mean and of what import they could be. In the past, the sheer foreignness of these admonitions has been like a Langford basilisk to me &#8212; I can&#8217;t help but take the words in, but my mind, uncomprehending, does not deal with them. Part of this mental incomprehensibility is the voluntaristic nature of beliefs that it presents. I understand that many people think differently, but I do not imagine consciously choosing to believe or to doubt something. Rather, my beliefs and doubts seem to me the unconscious conclusions of evaluation of the data I perceive. So, in the past, I didn&#8217;t think about what such a phrase could mean, and when I did, I concluded that the phrase was just a cheap attack. But like the idea of Langford&#8217;s basilisk, my mind only required time and a somewhat more comprehensive, yet similar concept to recall the uncomprehended and incomprehensible and crash. I have often thought about what it  means to &#8220;leave the church, but not leave it alone.&#8221; This is another phrase frequently flung at the faithless flock, but immediately easier [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve occasionally heard a curious phrase&#8230;&#8221;Doubt your doubts.&#8221; &#8220;Be skeptical of your skepticism.&#8221; I have wondered what these phrases could mean and of what import they could be.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.empireeternal.com/wp-content/uploads/cognitive_hazard.png"><img class="alignleft" src="http://www.empireeternal.com/wp-content/uploads/cognitive_hazard.png" alt="Langford Basilisk" width="233" height="240" /></a>In the past, the sheer foreignness of these admonitions has been like a Langford <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Langford#Basilisks">basilisk</a> to me &#8212; I can&#8217;t help but take the words in, but my mind, uncomprehending, does not deal with them. Part of this mental incomprehensibility is the voluntaristic nature of beliefs that it presents. I understand that many people think differently, but <em>I</em> <a href="http://irresistibledisgrace.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/do-we-consciously-choose-our-beliefs/">do not imagine consciously choosing to believe</a> or to doubt something. Rather, my beliefs and doubts seem to me the unconscious conclusions of evaluation of the data I perceive.</p>
<p>So, in the past, I didn&#8217;t think about what such a phrase could mean, and when I did, I concluded that the phrase was just a cheap attack.</p>
<p>But like the idea of Langford&#8217;s basilisk, my mind only required time and a somewhat more comprehensive, yet similar concept to recall the uncomprehended and incomprehensible and crash.</p>
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<p>I have often thought about what it  means to &#8220;leave the church, but not leave it alone.&#8221; This is another phrase frequently flung at the faithless flock, but immediately easier to grasp. I can understand why a member would want someone who disbelieves, disagrees, and disaffiliates to disengage, disassociate, and desist (although I believe this <a href="http://irresistibledisgrace.wordpress.com/2009/02/18/leave-the-church-but-cant-leave-it-alone-redux/">may not capture</a> why the person &#8220;does not leave the church alone&#8221; in the first place.) I have read other <a href="http://ldsconversionconfusion.com/2010/07/13/the-cutting-edge-joyous-adult-convert-interviews-full-time-antiex-mormon/">members&#8217;</a> <a href="http://ldsconversionconfusion.com/2010/07/13/anti-mormon-bores-me/">dealings</a> <a href="http://ldsconversionconfusion.com/2010/07/16/how-anti-mormon-tweets-strengthened-my-faith/">with</a> &#8220;full-time&#8221; anti-Mormons (the twitter-engaged ones, at least), and I have myself <a href="http://irresistibledisgrace.wordpress.com/2009/06/28/my-life-with-anti-mormon-obsession/">dealt with accusations of being an anti-Mormon</a>. And I have grappled with the idea of engaging with Mormonism, of loving Mormonism <em>despite</em> not believing and not engaging with a physical community. What can such a thing even mean?</p>
<p>I have at times been discouraged to write here at Mormon Matters, because sometimes I feel it <a href="http://irresistibledisgrace.wordpress.com/2010/06/29/excuses-for-not-blogging-part-ii/">could damage</a> the <a href="http://irresistibledisgrace.wordpress.com/2010/07/01/excuses-for-not-blogging-part-iii/">site&#8217;s reputation</a> among our brethren in the Bloggernacle. <a href="http://irresistibledisgrace.wordpress.com/2010/07/18/not-so-big-tent-mormonism/">Is Mormonism a big tent</a> or not?</p>
<p>In my quiet considerations, others have been quite charitable. They have expressed how I&#8217;m always welcome&#8230;how a break is a natural or a good thing. Some have gone so far to say that separating, that moving on completely, is a natural or a good thing.</p>
<p>And here I have come to doubt, and to doubt my doubts.</p>
<p>I feel like the comments from the others are an inception. An inception comes from another, but must be planted far enough in the subconscious so as to seem as if it comes from the self. And so, as others have suggested, &#8220;It&#8217;s ok to move away from Mormon blogging if you doubt your goals and purposes within both the blog and the Mormonism,&#8221; I have understood the savory sensibility of this simple statement, and I have adopted it as my own simple statement. But I have also doubted this doubt, and doubted this statement.</p>
<p>I have doubted my doubt that (blogging about) Mormonism can remain compelling or relevant to me.</p>
<p>A while back, I was reading an entry from a friend <a href="http://usu-shaft.com/2010/and-it-came-to-pass-that-i-started-an-exceedingly-awesome-series-about-the-book-of-mormon/">introducing his series into the Book of Mormon</a>. He, like me, does not believe, but he stated:</p>
<blockquote><p>I disagree with Elder Holland that the only available answer is that Joseph Smith translated an ancient American history by the power of god&#8230;But I do actually agree with Elder Holland on this point: Some critics are too quick to dismiss the Book of Mormon. And while the burden of proof rests primarily with its believers, I nonetheless think we owe the Book of Mormon more than just an indifferent shrug or rolled eyes. That’s why I’m writing this series—to grapple honestly with the Book of Mormon.</p></blockquote>
<p>I had at the time challenged the idea that we owe more than just an indifferent shrug or rolled eyes. I&#8217;d probably still challenge the idea, because I believe that what we &#8220;owe&#8221; the Book of Mormon &#8212; or any text &#8212; is not some universal prescription inscribed in pristine marble, but is tied to our personal motivations. His prescription, I thought, reflected <em>his</em> motivations and desires to grapple honestly with the book.</p>
<p>With time, I have come to see blogging in a similar way. I know people who would say this is inferior to parking my posterior in a pew, or to diving into the doctrines of official scriptures. I know others who would say it doesn&#8217;t make sense to try to &#8220;grapple with&#8221; blogging once I&#8217;ve &#8220;burnt out.&#8221; Perhaps they are all right.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I feel this, my sincere if substandard offering, is worth offering, if only for myself.</p>
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		<title>Cookie Cutter Church Buildings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Spector</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There was a time that each Church building, Meetinghouse, Stake Center and Temple was a unique structure, and, in many cases, very distinctive.  For a while now, in order to save money, the Church has been using standard plans for its buildings. Caveat alert: Once you get outside of North America, all bets are off on building design. They seem to be more unique, even the newer ones. What’s interesting is that the leveraging of designs has really been going on since the 1950s. Prior to that, each building was designed and built from the ground up.  Looking at the Temples, one can see a similarity in each era of Temple building. Temples For example, the design of the Kirtland, Nauvoo and St. George Temples are similar, even if the interiors had a totally different configuration. Similar Designs Examples Logan, Manti London, Hamilton, NZ, Bern, Los Angeles Ogden, Provo (For now) Tokyo, Seattle, Jordan River Sao Paulo, Atlanta, Santiago, Tonga, Samoa (original), Tahiti, Sydney, Denver Boise, Dallas, Chicago, Manila, Taipei, Guatemala City, Johannesburg, Stockholm, Seoul, Lima, Buenos Aries, Frankfurt Small Temple Designs Etc. There, have of course, been some unique ones along the way: Salt Lake, Oakland, Washington DC, Mexico [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a time that each Church building, Meetinghouse, Stake Center and Temple was a unique structure, and, in many cases, very distinctive.  <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Hong-Kong.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-11993" style="border: 3px solid black;margin: 3px" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Hong-Kong-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>For a while now, in order to save money, the Church has been using standard plans for its buildings. <strong>Caveat alert:</strong> Once you get outside of North America, all bets are off on building design. They seem to be more unique, even the newer ones.</p>
<p>What’s interesting is that the leveraging of designs has really been going on since the 1950s. Prior to that, each building was designed and built from the ground up.  Looking at the Temples, one can see a similarity in each era of Temple building.</p>
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<p>For example, the design of the Kirtland, Nauvoo and St. George Temples are similar, even if the interiors had a totally different configuration.</p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/kirtland-mormon-temple6.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11982" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/kirtland-mormon-temple6-224x300.jpg" alt="" width="224" height="300" /></a><a title="St. George" href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/STGEORGEUT_hr.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11988" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/STGEORGEUT_hr-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="399" height="300" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/NauvooPhotos_hr.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-11984 alignleft" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/NauvooPhotos_hr-231x300.jpg" alt="" width="231" height="300" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Similar Designs Examples</strong></p>
<ol>
<li><a href="http://www.lds.org/temples/main/photo/0,11505,2020-1-38-1,00.html">Logan</a>, <a href="http://www.lds.org/temples/main/photo/0,11505,2020-1-39-1,00.html">Manti</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.lds.org/temples/main/0,11204,1912-1-48-1,00.html">London</a>, <a href="http://www.lds.org/temples/main/0,11204,1912-1-47-1,00.html">Hamilton, NZ</a>, <a href="http://www.lds.org/temples/main/0,11204,1912-1-45-1,00.html">Bern</a>, <a href="http://www.lds.org/temples/main/0,11204,1912-1-46-1,00.html">Los Angeles</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://www.lds.org/temples/main/0,11204,1912-1-50-1,00.html">Ogden</a>, <a href="http://www.lds.org/temples/main/0,11204,1912-1-51-1,00.html">Provo</a> (For now)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.lds.org/temples/main/0,11204,1912-1-54-1,00.html">Tokyo</a>, <a href="http://www.lds.org/temples/main/0,11204,1912-1-55-1,00.html">Seattle</a>, <a href="http://www.lds.org/temples/main/0,11204,1912-1-56-1,00.html">Jordan River</a></li>
<li>Sao Paulo, Atlanta, Santiago, Tonga, Samoa (original), Tahiti, Sydney, Denver</li>
<li> Boise, Dallas, Chicago, Manila, Taipei, Guatemala City, Johannesburg, Stockholm, Seoul, Lima, Buenos Aries, Frankfurt</li>
<li> Small Temple Designs</li>
<li> Etc.</li>
</ol>
<p>There, have of course, been some unique ones along the way:</p>
<p>Salt Lake, Oakland, Washington DC, Mexico City, San Diego, to name a few.</p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/SaltLakeUT_hr.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11996" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/SaltLakeUT_hr-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/OAKLAND.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11995" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/OAKLAND-300x239.jpg" alt="" width="285" height="225" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/WASHINGTONDC_hr.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11998" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/WASHINGTONDC_hr-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/mexicocity.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11994" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/mexicocity-300x238.jpg" alt="" width="284" height="226" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/san_diego1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium  wp-image-11997" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/san_diego1-300x212.jpg" alt="" width="318" height="225" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Meeting houses and Stake Centers</strong></p>
<p>In the early days of the Church and in many parts of the world still, existing buildings were and are re-purposed for use as meetinghouses. In some cases, buildings are just rented for Sunday use. As the Church became established, starting in Utah and surrounding states, LDS Church buildings were built to match the specific use for the facility. Very ornate Tabernacles were the center of a Mormon town.</p>
<p>Here are a few examples:</p>
<p>Paris,  ID ,    Provo ,  Box Elder (Brigham City) , Kaysville</p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/1602429079_a091ba5e48.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11967" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/1602429079_a091ba5e48-199x300.jpg" alt="" width="199" height="300" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/cfa234a5-529b-4535-90b0-01848714ba36.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11999" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/cfa234a5-529b-4535-90b0-01848714ba36-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="398" height="299" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/3779185778_a61de3f23c.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11979" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/3779185778_a61de3f23c-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="396" height="296" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/pretabernaclelg.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11986" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/pretabernaclelg-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="393" height="295" /></a></p>
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<p>As time moved on, standard designs began to become the norm.  As far back as 1950s, many meetinghouses and Stake Centers were based on the same design, with an occasional unique one.</p>
<p><strong>1950’s</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/2650559962_2e3cd183a4.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11968" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/2650559962_2e3cd183a4-300x199.jpg" alt="" width="339" height="225" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/2838092328_bd8b3198a6.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11969" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/2838092328_bd8b3198a6-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/4477291363_f4e74655b6.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11980" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/4477291363_f4e74655b6-300x206.jpg" alt="" width="326" height="224" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Rose.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-12000" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Rose-300x225.png" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>1960’s</strong></p>
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<p><strong><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Los-Altos.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11983" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Los-Altos-300x225.png" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/2840789697_f43729ba41.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11970" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/2840789697_f43729ba41-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/kirk.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-12002" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/kirk-300x232.png" alt="" width="289" height="224" /></a></strong></p>
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<p><strong>1970’s</strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Bernal.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11989" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Bernal-300x225.png" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YB.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11991" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YB-300x225.png" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></strong></p>
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<p><strong>1980’s</strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/3675272010_6feeaa4484.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11978" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/3675272010_6feeaa4484-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/3579881207_3aef83a2c0.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11977" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/3579881207_3aef83a2c0-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/2987571822_97c2f7128d.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11972" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/2987571822_97c2f7128d-300x198.jpg" alt="" width="339" height="224" /></a></strong></p>
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<p><strong>1990s, 2000s</strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/scott-Creek.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11987" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/scott-Creek-300x225.png" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/2987571610_0d392e19e1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11971" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/2987571610_0d392e19e1-300x199.jpg" alt="" width="339" height="224" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/3066952712_1b1b7d98cf.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11974" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/3066952712_1b1b7d98cf-300x199.jpg" alt="" width="338" height="224" /></a><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/3071807223_4953ea8730.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-11975" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/3071807223_4953ea8730-300x199.jpg" alt="" width="336" height="223" /></a></strong></p>
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<p>The 1990s brought the &#8220;California Plan,&#8221; a 42,000 sq foot 2-story building designed to hold an entire stake within it.  There are two of everything, Chapels, Primary, Relief Society rooms. Eight bishops and clerks offices and a complete set of Stake offices. Most of the buildings were and are not fully utilized except for short periods of time while other buildings were renovated. Take it from my personal experience, you&#8217;ve never experienced this kind of organized chaos when you have four wards in the building at once,  4 in the morning and 4 in the afternoon.</p>
<p>So, what do you think?  I&#8217;ve heard that they are even tearing down some of the older, unique buildings to put up more efficient, newer designs.<strong> </strong>Are we losing the character of our buildings by having the same designs? Or, is it easier to find a church building?<strong> </strong>I&#8217;ve always been able to spot our buildings by the spires out front.</p>
<p>Are you in a vintage building or a cookie cutter building? Which are your favorites?<strong><br />
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		<title>Mormon Marriage Ref: Bikinis, Garments, &amp; Facebook</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2010/06/25/mormon-marriage-ref-bikinis/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 21:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WARNING: Sophisticated readers have described The Mormon Marriage Ref as a painfully artificial and repellent reality TV way of solving arguments, as using incredibly silly black and white binary thinking, and as sorely lacking in nuance. Read at your own risk! Here’s the situation: Matt and Sarah are a young couple living in Las Vegas. They are very physically active, and put a high priority on health and exercise. They love the warm weather and their big neighborhood pool. They originally met in Germany (Sarah is German, and speaks fluent English) while Matt was on his mission. Matt went back to Germany later on to study abroad, and after a brief courtship he proposed. They eventually ended up in Las Vegas where Matt is getting an MBA and Sarah is a personal trainer. They get along pretty well overall, but have had an ongoing debate about modesty. Sarah thinks Matt is too lax about wearing his garments. She doesn&#8217;t like Matt wearing his running shorts to the grocery store, or leaving his shirt off to wash the car. Matt doesn’t like Sarah wearing a bikini at the neighborhood pool, or on family vacations, or on facebook. Vegas summers are just [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>WARNING:</strong> Sophisticated readers have described The Mormon Marriage Ref as a painfully artificial and repellent reality TV way of solving arguments, as using incredibly silly black and white binary thinking, and as sorely lacking in nuance. Read at your own risk!</em></p>
<p>Here’s the situation:</p>
<p>Matt and Sarah are a young couple living in Las Vegas. They are very physically active, and put a high priority on health and exercise. They love the warm weather and their big neighborhood pool. They originally met in Germany (Sarah is German, and speaks fluent English) while Matt was on his mission. Matt went back to Germany later on to study abroad, and after a brief courtship he proposed. They eventually ended up in Las Vegas where Matt is getting an MBA and Sarah is a personal trainer. They get along pretty well overall, but have had an ongoing debate about modesty. Sarah thinks Matt is too lax about wearing his garments. She doesn&#8217;t like Matt wearing his running shorts to the grocery store, or leaving his shirt off to wash the car. Matt doesn’t like Sarah wearing a bikini at the neighborhood pool, or on family vacations, or on facebook. Vegas summers are just sooooooo hot, right?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s listen in on a recent debate&#8230;<span id="more-11616"></span></p>
<blockquote><p><em>Sarah:</em> “I get that you don’t like to change at the gym, but why do you wait sooooo long to change after you come home? There’s always one more smoothie to grab, a car to wash, and errand to run. You end up never putting your garments back on until the end of the day. That doesn’t jive with what I learned at the temple, and I don’t see how you can have a recommend, <em>Elder</em>.”</p>
<p><em>Matt:</em> <em>[Laughing]</em> “Oh no! I better give up my recommend! Chillax. Really though, after I workout I don’t like changing again until I’ve taken a shower, and I need to stop sweating first. It’s not exactly cool here. If God’s okay with me taking off my garments to workout, I’m sure he won’t mind if I wash the car.”</p>
<p><em>Sarah:</em> “Heh, fine. I don’t think we’re ever going to agree on this, because I’m right and you’re stubborn. Why did I marry you again?&#8221; <em>[playfully smirking]</em></p>
<p><em>Matt:</em> “You’re hot!&#8221; <em>[Sarah roles her eyes]</em> &#8220;KIDDING!&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Sarah: </em><em>[Scoffs]</em> You&#8217;re digging yourself into a hole here buddy&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Later on that day…</em></p>
<p><em>Matt:</em> “I just don’t know how I feel about our photos on the beach in Maui ending up on your facebook&#8211;which you spend WAY too much time doing, by the way. Anyway, do you really want the Elder’s Quorum President or some other ward member to see you in a bikini when they check facebook? I don’t even want to know what they’re thinking.”</p>
<p><em>Sarah:</em> “Okay, wow, so it’s my responsibility to control their thoughts? I have already had to adjust to the culture here&#8230; and what&#8217;s with the facebook dig, Mr. World of WarCraft? Anyway, that&#8217;s not the issue here. Americans are kind of ashamed of their bodies. They could use a little liberation. Gosh that sounds weird considering we live in Vegas.”</p>
<p><em>Matt:</em> “Exactly! Are we living the Lord’s standards or the world’s? Women shouldn’t wear immodest swimsuits. What kind of message are you sending to the Young Women?”</p>
<p><em>Sarah:</em> “So, YOU’RE the one who decides what is or is not modest? This is SUCH a cultural issue. In some places an ankle is immodest. And why is my belly button less modest than yours?”</p>
<p><em>Matt: </em>“Standards for what we wear is NOT a cultural issue.”</p>
<p><em>Sarah:</em> “We shouldn’t try to cram Utah Mormon Culture down the throats of all the other cultures of the world. People can still be faithful and have different cultures. Stop trying to force me to live according to your sexist standards… PLEASE tell me why my navel is more offensive than yours! You don&#8217;t have an argument, really.  YOU are also often breaking something that is very much indeed universal with not wearing your garments a lot of the time. Who cares about what other people are thinking about what we wear. What matters is what we think and what God thinks, and you’re in the wrong here.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Make the call! Who wins this argument?</p>
<p>[poll id="181"]</p>
<p>Granted, no one really wins, so how can a couple like this come to an understanding, or acceptance?</p>
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		<title>Are you sure you&#8217;d like to live the United Order?</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2010/06/08/are-you-sure-youd-like-to-live-the-united-order/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mormon Heretic</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We had an interesting discussion on my Prayer and Politics post.  (Unfortunately, we talked more about politics than prayer.)  The discussion focused on economic policies.  Many people don&#8217;t like President Obama&#8217;s push to &#8220;redistribute wealth&#8221;.  I made the statement that &#8220;the United Order was all about redistribution of wealth, so there would be no poor among us. Brigham went out of his way to lambast capitalism’s evils.&#8221; Ken S replied that It is a Celestial Law and Terrestrial or Telestial beings are not capable of living this law. It does not use dominion or compulsion. It is completely voluntary. Moreover, Socialism/Communism is counterfeit to the law of Consecration. They are of Lucifer. The fruits of these ideologies are evil.Please don’t compare them to a Celestial Law. I did a post previously asking if you would recognize this church, because living in Utah in the 1860&#8242;s-1880&#8242;s was so different under the United Order. There was some coercion in helping ensure that there were no poor among the Utah saints.  There was pettiness.  Bored in Vernal recently posted that she would like to live the United Order, but I&#8217;m not sure most of us capitalists would enjoying living in a United Order, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had an interesting discussion on my <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/05/30/prayer-and-politics/">Prayer and Politics</a> post.  (Unfortunately, we talked more about politics than prayer.)  The discussion focused on economic policies.  Many people don&#8217;t like President Obama&#8217;s push to &#8220;redistribute wealth&#8221;.  <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/05/30/prayer-and-politics/#comment-136410">I made the statement</a> that</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;the United Order was all about redistribution of wealth, so there would  be no poor among us. Brigham went out of his way to lambast  capitalism’s evils.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/05/30/prayer-and-politics/#comment-136416">Ken S replied</a> that<span id="more-11556"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>It is a Celestial Law and Terrestrial or Telestial beings are not  capable of living this law. It does not use dominion or compulsion. It  is completely voluntary.  Moreover, Socialism/Communism is counterfeit  to the law of Consecration. They are of Lucifer. The fruits of these  ideologies are evil.Please don’t compare them to a Celestial Law.</p></blockquote>
<p>I did a post previously asking if you <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/08/31/would-you-recognize-this-church/">would recognize this church</a>, because living in Utah in the 1860&#8242;s-1880&#8242;s was so different under the United Order. There was some coercion in helping ensure that there were no poor among the Utah saints.  There was pettiness.  Bored in Vernal recently posted that <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/01/27/why-i-want-to-live-the-united-order/">she would like to live the United Order</a>, but I&#8217;m not sure most of us capitalists would enjoying living in a United Order, and I doubt that we would do any better than the early saints.  We don&#8217;t want to live equally; we&#8217;d rather be rewarded for our hard work.  I thought I&#8217;d review what I learned about the United Orders in Utah from the book <a href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1280015.Great_Basin_Kingdom_An_Economic_History_of_the_Latter_day_Saints_1830_1900_New_Edition">Great Basin Kingdom</a>.</p>
<p>These United Order enterprises were extremely effective in helping to  create an efficient workforce, producing needed products, and keeping  people employed.  It certainly was not the free market economy we&#8217;ve  come to expect today.  Mormons were encouraged to be self-sufficient.   Brigham Young started many of these enterprises, but died in 1877.  John  Taylor kept them going, and they were helpful.  Both Young and Taylor  did not want to import anything if possible, which did create some hard  feelings with non-Mormons.  Many of these anti-polygamy feelings and anti-polygamy legislation can be  traced to non-Mormons wanting to break into the Mormon market, which was  essentially a socialist-like monopoly.  There were price controls, and price discrimination between Mormons and non-Mormons.</p>
<p>There were some interesting  dynamics with these United Orders.  There is an interesting story about a pair of pants.  From  page 335,</p>
<blockquote><p>Orderville had been founded in an atmosphere of dire  poverty, and the common action which took place in the Order made it  possible for members to eat and dress better than they had for  years&#8211;better, in fact, than many residents in surrounding settlements  where United Orders had not functioned successfully.  When the Utah  Southern Railroad was completed to Milford, Utah, however, the rich  mines at Silver Reef, not far from Orderville were exploited to the  full.  Within five years, more than $10,000,000 worth of silver was  extracted.  Orderville&#8217;s neighbors, profiting from this boom, suddenly  found themselves able to buy imported clothing and other store  commodities.  The Saints at Orderville became &#8220;old  fashioned&#8221;&#8230;.Orderville adolescents began to envy the young people in  the communities&#8230;.</p></blockquote>
<p>A young man wanted a new set of pants, but the rules of Orderville  said that all clothing must come from the same bolt of cloth.  (All were  equal, and there was no inequality among them.)  His pants had no  holes, and his request for new pants was denied.  His community raised  sheep.  From page 336,</p>
<blockquote><p>When the lambs&#8217; tails were docked, the young brother  surreptitiously gathered them and sheared off the wool which he stored  in sacks.  When he was assigned to take a load of wool to Nephi, he  secretly took the lambs&#8217; tail wool with his load and exchanged it for a  pair of store paints.  On his return, he wore his new pants to the next  dance.  His entrance caused a sensation.  The story is that one young  lady rushed to him, embraced and kissed him.  The president of the Order  demanded an explanation, and when it was truthfully given, he said:   &#8220;According to your own story these pants belong to the Order.  You are  requested to appear before the Board of Management tomorrow evening at  half past eight, and to bring the store pants with you.&#8221;</p>
<p>At the meeting, the young brother was commended for his enterprise,  but was reminded that all pants must be made of cloth from the same  bolt.  However, to prove its good will, the Board of Management agree to  have the store pants unseamed and used as a pattern for all pants made  in the future, and further, the young man in question would get the  first pair.</p></blockquote>
<p>This story made me laugh, but I think illustrates well some of the   problems we don&#8217;t think about in &#8220;utopian&#8221; societies.  As time went on these United Orders were dissolved in 1885 due to  growing anti-polygamy prosecution.  From page 337,</p>
<blockquote><p>With the disintegration of their collective institutions,  after ten years of &#8220;cooperative living,&#8221; the older members began to  reflect on the advantages of their previously enjoyed communal  experience over the encroaching spirit of competitive individualism.   The chafing under restrictive regulation, the disagreements, the  yearning for privacy were all forgotten, and their memories were sweet.   Almost every published reminiscence of life under the Order mentions it  as the closes approximation to a well-ordered, supremely happy  Christian life that was possible of achievement in human society.</p></blockquote>
<p>While there will be no poor among us in a United Order, there will be no rich either.  Many people in these United Orders complained about people that didn&#8217;t work as hard being rewarded equally.  Here&#8217;s some questions to consider:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is that how you want to live?</li>
<li>Do you agree with Ken that the United Order was completely voluntary?</li>
<li>Was coercion used to make sure everybody wore the same type of pants?</li>
<li>Do we really want  equality in our society, where there are no poor AND no rich among us?</li>
<li>Was Brigham Young&#8217;s experiment with United Order closer to socialism or (gasp) communism, than free-market capitalism?  (I&#8217;m not talking about Soviet communism, but rather communal living, and having true equality, or &#8220;no poor among us.&#8221;)</li>
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		<title>Bloggernacle Performance Art</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew S</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an outsider and newcomer, I must admit that there are just some things about the Bloggernacle that I cannot even begin to grasp. One of the things that I totally missed out on (but which I am [very] slowly scratching the surface about) is the (dark) period of Bloggernacle history regarding the Banner of Heaven. I can&#8217;t even begin to comprehend it all, but I am fortunate for the glimpse and expose that Scott B is providing for it. One thing I can&#8217;t help but think about is the sheer artistic nature of this undertaking. It is literary, first and foremost&#8230;and from the beginning, the project objectives bore innovative literary significance. As was described in the project objectives (hidden away from the general public for so long): &#8230;our number one aim—beyond just having fun—with this project is to explore the potential of blogging as a story-telling form.  More specifically, we want to explore blogging as a way of telling Mormon stories, and more specifically than that we want to tell stories that reflect back on the bloggernacle itself. Of course, in the process, the project needed to be much more. Blogs aren&#8217;t static, but interactive. And with that, the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an outsider and newcomer, I must admit that there are just some things about the Bloggernacle that I cannot even begin to grasp. One of the things that I totally missed out on (but which I am [very] slowly scratching the surface about) is the (dark) period of Bloggernacle history regarding the <a href="http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/05/30/bloggernacle-classics-the-banner-of-heaven-weblog/">Banner</a> <a href="http://www.bloggernacle.org/boh-origins/">of</a> <a href="http://bannerofheaven.mormonmentality.org/">Heaven</a>.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t even begin to comprehend it all, but I am fortunate for the glimpse and expose that Scott B is providing for it.</p>
<p>One thing I can&#8217;t help but think about is the sheer <em>artistic</em> nature of this undertaking. It is literary, first and foremost&#8230;and from the beginning, the project objectives bore innovative literary significance. As was described in the project objectives (hidden away from the general public for so long):</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8230;our   number  one aim—beyond just having fun—with this project is to explore  the  potential of blogging as a story-telling form.  More specifically,   we want to explore blogging as a way of telling Mormon stories, and   more specifically than that we want to tell stories that reflect back   on the bloggernacle itself.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, in the process, the project needed to be much more. Blogs aren&#8217;t static, but interactive. And with that, the Banner of Heaven project became more performative, social, experimental, and experiential.<span id="more-11546"></span></p>
<p>I cannot even begin to understand the charged feelings and responses to the blog, because I wasn&#8217;t &#8220;there&#8221; for it. Yet, in seeing all the discussion about BoH after the fact, I always see a kind of damage control relating to the subject.</p>
<p>One idea that comes out frequently is that of deception. Was it deception? Was that the intent? Was that an unfortunate consequence? A known, yet calculated risk? What does that say about the participating bloggers (the actors)? I think <a href="http://www.bloggernacle.org/bcc-zeitcast-3-10-1-miranda-pj/">the latest entry on the subject</a>, which features a podcast interview of one of the participating bloggers, touches a few intriguing points. As <a href="http://www.bloggernacle.org/bcc-zeitcast-3-10-1-miranda-pj/#comment-33507">one commenter to the thread sums up</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The one telling thing on this podcast is Rosalynde’s unwillingness to  act deceptively.  She was the only one who with the foresight to  recognize how people were going to react to being tricked.  They all  knew she had misgivings about it, and forged on regardless with their  grand enterprise.  From this podcast it doesnt sound like her withdrawl  resulted in any internal soul-searching or discussion with the rest of  them.</p>
<p>People’s perceptions of whats funny sure is different.</p></blockquote>
<p>I guess that psychological aspect running through it all is the most intriguing. Within this comment, I sense an undertone&#8230;a lingering disgust that carries with it a sort of judgment of the participating writers.</p>
<p>Yet, the fascinating part is I bet that many would still assert that there wasn&#8217;t any intent to deceive and, even now, the project wasn&#8217;t really as bad as some people would like to believe.</p>
<p>I certainly feel, even from a distance, that good, bad, or indifferent, this project made a big splash on the story of Mormonism (and the story of Mormon blogging). In fact, it is precisely because of the good <em>and</em> the bad and the indifferent that this makes such a great Mormon story.</p>
<p>I regret that the limitations of analogies for this project are unfortunately fatal. At best, it can tell us about a community built around a knowing untruth, but how far can <em>that</em> tell either a story about the <em>real</em> bloggernacle or Mormonism itself without making or taking taboo and unpalatable assumptions about either the former or the latter?</p>
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		<title>Best and Worst of Mormonism: Primary Songs!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[*Note: For my Best and Worst series, my intent is not to be negative for its own sake. Rather, I believe in balance, moderation, and critiquing personal sacred cows. Such is my love/cringe relationship with primary. I first heard the words “Janice Krapp Perry” in the MTC. Perry is the source of quite possibly the best and the worst of what the primary songbook has to offer. Having spent the majority of my post-mission years on the primary piano bench (and/or herding packs of sunbeams), I’m quite familiar with the songs. Here are some keepers… and some kick-to-the-curb-ers! Best: A Child’s Prayer Manifestation of the Holy Ghost or not, this song makes me feel good. I really like the music, and the first line: “Heavenly Father, are you really there?” It seems to embrace wonder and validate doubt. What a great thing! I Hope They Call Me on a Mission I thought this was pretty cheesy growing up. Especially weird singing it as a 6’ eleven year-old (“when I have grown a foot or two” … which would make me 7 or 8 feet tall). However, at a zone conference in Japan during a rough patch in my mission, a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>*Note: For my <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2009/05/22/best-and-worst-mormon-quotes/" target="_blank">Best and Worst</a> series, my intent is not to be negative for its own sake. Rather, I believe in balance, moderation, and critiquing personal sacred cows. Such is my love/cringe relationship with primary.</em></p>
<p>I first heard the words “Janice K<strong>r</strong>app Perry” in the MTC.</p>
<p>Perry is the source of quite possibly the best and the worst of what the primary songbook has to offer. Having spent the majority of my post-mission years on the primary piano bench (and/or herding packs of sunbeams), I’m quite familiar with the songs. Here are some keepers… and some kick-to-the-curb-ers!<span id="more-11233"></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Best:</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">A Child’s Prayer</span><br />
Manifestation of the Holy Ghost or not, this song makes me feel good. I really like the music, and the first line: “Heavenly Father, are you really there?” It seems to embrace wonder and validate doubt. What a great thing!</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I Hope They Call Me on a Mission</span><br />
I thought this was pretty cheesy growing up. Especially weird singing it as a 6’ eleven year-old (“when I have grown a foot or two” … which would make me 7 or 8 feet tall). However, at a zone conference in Japan during a rough patch in my mission, a zone leader played just the first few lines of this song and I totally got fired up to go ring another 500 Japanese kekko boxes. I LOVE playing this song as well.</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">We’ll Bring the World His Truth</span><br />
Another song I loved on the mission. Really got me psyched up during long bike rides.</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Popcorn Popping</span><br />
Somehow I also missed the “it wasn’t really so” part and thought for a long time that popcorn really did come from apricot trees. Also, any primary song that ends up on Letterman has to be great (some guy in the audience sang it).</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Follow the Prophet</span><br />
I LOVE the minor key… and the march-like feel. Playing this one is really fun. It sounds great in Japanese too. That should be on everyone’s bucket list.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Worst:</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Follow the Prophet</span><br />
Thought I’d let this one off easy? This is quite possibly the creepiest song of the book. Can you say cult-ish? Something about the minor key and the words “Don’t go astray-ay!” that seem a little too horror-movie-ish. It’s one of the few things in the faith that when I’m called a cultist I actually think of this song and go, “well… kinda sometimes.”</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I Am a Child of God</span><br />
This song would not be on the worst list, if it wasn’t sung EVERY FLIPPIN’ WEEK. It got so bad in one ward, I actually complained to the primary president (we were tight like that, so don’t get too excited). Apparently, most of the kids were picking it for their “favorite song” for their spotlights because it was the only song they knew. Even my three year-old now randomly declares to inanimate objects around the house, “I am a child of God!” No, he doesn’t have Tourette&#8217;s. It just really sticks with you after 3x a week x 500+ weeks.</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Book of Mormon Stories</span><br />
I don’t know where to start with this one. Native-American/Lamanite connection issues aside, the “pretending to be Indians” hand action is at best ignorant. How can we continue to mock sacred symbols of other cultures? The Native American Powwow is a religious ceremony. The eagle feather is sacred. We should show more respect for these beliefs, just as we want our own sacred symbols to be respected.</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">If Jesus Were Watching</span><br />
This is a song out of Friend a while back that we are singing this year for the program. I totally reject the premise of the song: If Jesus were watching me, would I still do ________ behaviors? How is this not false doctrine? Jesus IS watching, duh. Come on Sister Perry. You have done better.<span style="color: #0000ff;"><br />
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<p>What are your favorite/least favorite primary songs? Keep it balanced! I don’t want any posters with all negative or all positive opinions!</p>
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		<title>The Repentant Sinner &#8211; Extreme Edition! (aka too many rules)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Suzy: Dad, I&#8217;m sorry I scratched the couch! Dad: It&#8217;s okay, just don&#8217;t do it again. 2 minutes later Suzy: Dad, I&#8217;m sorry I picked my nose. Dad: Yeah, we don&#8217;t pick our noses or they bleed. 2 minutes later Suzy: Dad, I&#8217;m sorry I kicked the chair. Dad: Yeah, it&#8217;s okay, don&#8217;t worry about it. repeat ad nauseum next day Suzy: Mom, I need to tell you a secret. Mom: Suzy, if you&#8217;re saying sorry for something, I don&#8217;t want to hear it! Suzy: I won&#8217;t mom, I just need to tell you a secret. Mom: okay Suzy: Mom, I&#8217;m sorry I jumped on the floor. Mom: Aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! repeat ad nauseum for 2 weeks on a car ride home one afternoon Suzy: Dad, I need to tell you something Dad: Sure Suzy, what is it? Suzy: I&#8217;m sorry I kicked the seat in the truck Dad: Okay, thanks for telling me, just don&#8217;t kick it anymore. dad turns on music Suzy: Dad&#8230;Dad&#8230;DAD! dad turns down music Dad: Yes Suzy? Suzy: I&#8217;m sorry I pulled out one of my hairs. Dad: Okay, okay, just try to sit there and listen to the music. dad turns music back up repeat, AGAIN, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Suzy: Dad, I&#8217;m sorry I scratched the couch!<br />
Dad: It&#8217;s okay, just don&#8217;t do it again.<br />
<em>2 minutes later</em><br />
Suzy: Dad, I&#8217;m sorry I picked my nose.<br />
Dad: Yeah, we don&#8217;t pick our noses or they bleed.<br />
<em>2 minutes later</em><br />
Suzy: Dad, I&#8217;m sorry I kicked the chair.<br />
Dad: Yeah, it&#8217;s okay, don&#8217;t worry about it.<br />
<em>repeat ad nauseum</em><br />
<em>next day</em><br />
Suzy: Mom, I need to tell you a secret.<span id="more-11180"></span><br />
Mom: Suzy, if you&#8217;re saying sorry for something, I don&#8217;t want to hear it!<br />
Suzy: I won&#8217;t mom, I just need to tell you a secret.<br />
Mom: okay<br />
Suzy: Mom, I&#8217;m sorry I jumped on the floor.<br />
Mom: Aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
<em>repeat ad nauseum for 2 weeks</em><br />
<em>on a car ride home one afternoon</em><br />
Suzy: Dad, I need to tell you something<br />
Dad: Sure Suzy, what is it?<br />
Suzy: I&#8217;m sorry I kicked the seat in the truck<br />
Dad: Okay, thanks for telling me, just don&#8217;t kick it anymore.<br />
<em>dad turns on music</em><br />
Suzy: Dad&#8230;Dad&#8230;DAD!<br />
<em>dad turns down music</em><br />
Dad: Yes Suzy?<br />
Suzy: I&#8217;m sorry I pulled out one of my hairs.<br />
Dad: Okay, okay, just try to sit there and listen to the music.<br />
<em>dad turns music back up</em><br />
<em>repeat, AGAIN, ad nauseum (yes, my child is obsessive/compulsive)</em><br />
Suzy: Dad&#8230;Dad&#8230;Dad&#8230;<br />
<em>dad is ignoring 5 year old</em><br />
Suzy: DAAAADDDDDD!!!!<br />
<em>dad turns off music</em><br />
Dad: WHAT!  If you tell me you&#8217;re sorry one more, I&#8217;m gonna lose it!<br />
Suzy: I&#8217;m sorry I wiped a booger on the seat.<br />
Dad: Look, Suzy, you don&#8217;t have to say sorry for everything okay!<br />
Suzy: But dad, I&#8217;m supposed to say sorry when I do something wrong.<br />
Dad: <em>speechless</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve been on my daughter&#8217;s case since she was born.  &#8220;Don&#8217;t do that!&#8221;  &#8220;Knock it off!&#8221; etc.  She also has learned to say sorry when she does something wrong.  Honestly, I never thought this would come back to haunt me in quite this way!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve laid out so many things that she should and shouldn&#8217;t do, and she violates so many of them just by nature of being a kid.  But it was getting extremely tedious when every time she opened her mouth we had a confessional!  I told her to stop apologizing all the time.  Of course that&#8217;s not really what I meant.  When she told me she was supposed to say sorry when she did something wrong, I simply didn&#8217;t know what to say.  Of course she should apologize when she does something wrong, but clearly not everything was wrong, or at least it wasn&#8217;t a big enough deal to warrant guilt and/or shame.  But is it a big deal?  I had taken the time to tell her (repeatedly) <strong>not</strong> to do those things in the past, how should she know what is a big deal and what is not?  How should she know when she&#8217;s apologizing too much, and which things warrant a real apology? How should she know which rules are really the important ones to keep, and which ones aren&#8217;t?  Perhaps I should have been more careful in my criticizing her actions.  Perhaps I should have just let some things slide, picking my battles more wisely.  After all, a parent can only handle so many confessionals!</p>
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		<title>White and Delightsome or Pure and Delightsome? (Cognitive dissonance 2)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’m 1/16 th Chippewa and don’t even look a little Indian! I figure from my knee down is pure Chippewa and  for whatever reason  I am pretty proud of that. In the afterlife if possible I would like that section preserved if God sees fit.  Below is my Great Grandmother and Grandmother &#8212; you can see even from one generation to the next how things change. I would also like to see my ancestors who are pure Chippewa with all their beautiful dark skin and get to know them as they were living on the earth before God changes their skin colour to white. We have met an Elder who the sisters of all ages seem to swoon over &#8212; he is half Tongan and half Hawaiian. There is no other way to put it but he is a lady killer! We discussed this subject, and it doesn’t seem to bother him if the doctrine does literally mean white and not pure.  He doesn&#8217;t mind if he becomes white in the afterlife. It seems to disturb me more than it does him. It’s something he and his family have come to grips with. I guess I better get down to what [...]]]></description>
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<p>I’m 1/16 th Chippewa and don’t even look a little Indian! I figure from my knee down is pure Chippewa and  for whatever reason  I am pretty proud of that. In the afterlife if possible I would like that section preserved if God sees fit.  Below is my Great Grandmother and Grandmother &#8212; you can see even from one generation to the next how things change.<span id="more-10643"></span></p>
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<p>I would also like to see my ancestors who are pure Chippewa with all their beautiful dark skin and get to know them as they were living on the earth before God changes their skin colour to white.</p>
<p>We have met an Elder who the sisters of all ages seem to swoon over &#8212; he is half Tongan and half Hawaiian. There is no other way to put it but he is a lady killer! We discussed this subject, and it doesn’t seem to bother him if the doctrine does literally mean white and not pure.  He doesn&#8217;t mind if he becomes white in the afterlife. It seems to disturb me more than it does him. It’s something he and his family have come to grips with.</p>
<p>I guess I better get down to what has caused my dissonance.   Here are some statements by the prophets about a Book of Mormon passage found in <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=2+ne+30:6&amp;do=Search">2 Nephi 30:6</a> regarding a change Lamanites would experience if they embraced the Book of Mormon.  In every edition save one (1840), the words &#8220;white and delightsome&#8221; were used.  In the 1981 edition, the editors reverted to the 1840 edition&#8217;s &#8220;pure and delightsome&#8221; wording.</p>
<p><strong>Prophet Statements</strong></p>
<p><strong>President Brigham Young </strong><br />
&#8220;You may inquire of the intelligent of the world whether they can tell why the aborigines of this country are dark, loathsome, ignorant, and sunken into the depths of degradation &#8230;When the Lord has a people, he makes covenants with them and gives unto them promises: then, if they transgress his law, change his ordinances, and break his covenants he has made with them, he will put a mark upon them, as in the case of the Lamanites and other portions of the house of Israel; but by-and-by they will become a white and delightsome people.&#8221; (Journal of Discourses 7:336)</p>
<p><strong>W.W. Phelps to Brigham Young quoting Joseph Smith: </strong></p>
<p>&#8220;It is my will, that in time, ye should take unto you wives of the Lamanites and Nephites that their posterity, may become white, delightsome and just.&#8217;&#8221; In the 8 December 1831 Ohio Star, Ezra Booth wrote of a revelation directing Mormon elders to marry with the &#8220;natives.&#8221; (Sunstone, November 1993, footnote #5, pg. 52)</p>
<p><strong>Apostle Spencer W. Kimball</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today&#8230;. The day of the Lamanites is nigh. For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised. In this picture of the twenty Lamanite missionaries, fifteen of the twenty were as light as Anglos, five were darker but equally delightsome. The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation. At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl&#8211;sixteen&#8211;sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents&#8211;on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather&#8230;.These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.&#8221; (Apostle Elder Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference Address, April 1, 1967)</p>
<p><strong>2 Nephi 5:21</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, and they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.&#8221;</p>
<p>3 <strong>Nephi 2:12-15</strong> teaches that dark-skinned Lamanites who converted unto the Lord had their curse taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;White&#8221; versus &#8220;Pure&#8221; (Maxwell Institute)</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>According to the 1830 edition of the Book of Mormon, Nephi, speaking of the latter-day restoration, discussed the future conversion of Lehi&#8217;s descendants: &#8220;And then shall they rejoice; for they shall know that it is a blessing unto them from the hand of God; and their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and a delightsome people&#8221; (2 Nephi 30:6). In 1840 the Book of Mormon was &#8220;carefully revised by the translator,&#8221; Joseph Smith, and in that edition the expression &#8220;white and delightsome&#8221; was changed to &#8220;pure and delightsome.&#8221; This change seems to reflect the Prophet&#8217;s concern that modern readers might misinterpret this passage as a reference to racial changes rather than to changes in righteousness. Possibly his sojourns in Ohio and Missouri had altered his perspective of the racial connotations of the term <em>white</em> in the contemporary United States, particularly among slaves and slaveholders. He may not have gained much understanding of this matter during his upbringing in New England and New York State, where slavery was not as common.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for subsequent Latter-day Saint interpreters, following the Prophet&#8217;s death the changes in the 1840 edition of the Book of Mormon were not carried over into subsequent printings, which were instead based on an edition prepared by the Twelve Apostles in Great Britain after a copy of an earlier edition. The apostles, being in England, were not familiar with the 1840 edition. Consequently, Latter-day Saints did not reap the benefit of the Prophet&#8217;s clarification until it was restored in the 1981 edition of the Book of Mormon.  Some critics have been fond of citing statements of earlier Latter-day Saint leaders, who once interpreted 2 Nephi 30:6 to mean that conversion leads to a change of skin color; however, to use such statements today is anachronistic at best and disingenuous at worst since these statements were all expressed previous to the 1981 correction and merely echo a misinterpretation of the Book of Mormon text rather than the authoritative text itself. Moreover, a change in Lamanite skin color was clearly never intended by the &#8220;white/pure and delightsome&#8221; passage that the Prophet Joseph modified because it does not refer to the Lamanites at all, but to the Nephites and Jews in the latter days who turn to Christ (see 2 Nephi 30:1—7).</p>
<p>But is the Prophet&#8217;s change from &#8220;white&#8221; to &#8220;pure&#8221; justified in the scriptural context? The answer is yes. The terms <em>white</em> and <em>pure</em> are used synonymously in Daniel 7:9, Revelation 15:6, and Doctrine and Covenants 110:3. They are also found together in a number of passages where they clearly refer to those who are purified and redeemed by Christ (Alma 5:24; 13:12; 32:42; Mormon 9:6; D&amp;C 20:6). Similarly, Mormon expressed the hope that the Nephites &#8220;may once again be a delightsome people&#8221; (Words of Mormon 1:8).</p></blockquote>
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<p>Where I have dissonance or questions</p>
<ol>
<li>Is from how I understand the Book of Mormon and statements of past prophets contradict our view of it being pure today.</li>
<li>There has been no church conference talk that I am aware of clarifying the teachings of the past prophets i.e. President Kimball white vs pure. Many members I would suggest aren’t clear on our past beliefs and our current progressive belief on pure.</li>
<li>If these were president Kimball’s own personal views why haven’t the church come out with a statement expounding on this?</li>
<li>As a church, are we resolute that this was a clarification of the word white &#8212; never meant to refer to a person with dark skin pigmentation who would turn white upon a conversion to the gospel; but referring to a cleaner state of heart? This hypothesis in my mind fails to make clear other passages in the Book of Mormon that still make a connection with &#8220;iniquity&#8221; and skin color. See, for example, <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?type=references&amp;last=2+ne+30:6&amp;help=&amp;ro=checked&amp;search=2+ne+5:21%0D%0A&amp;do=Search&amp;show=">2 Nephi 5:21</a> as well as past prophet statements.</li>
<li>Why did it take God 140 years to clarify this misunderstanding?</li>
<li>If we quote what President Kimball said in 1967 conference would we be considered anachronistic today?</li>
<li>Is FARMS saying Apostle Kimball’s views are out of date , old fashioned, obsolete?</li>
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		<title>Charity: Self-Analysis Tool: Do I Vaunt Myself; Am I Puffed Up?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My New Year&#8217;s Resolution this year is taken from I Corinthians 13:4-7.  In a nutshell, it is to become a little more charitable this year.  I am studying and trying to practice one of the manifestations of charity listed in Paul&#8217;s passage each month.  This month, the focus is on charity &#8220;vaunting not itself&#8221; and not being &#8220;puffed up&#8221;.  I write each Saturday about this resolution on my personal blog, and I want to share something with all of you that hit me as I was preparing to write my post for last Saturday. From my post two weeks ago about the attitude behind vaunting and being puffed up: If someone lacks charity, it&#8217;s not necessarily that he believes &#8220;they are worse than I am&#8221; &#8211; but rather that he believes &#8220;I am better than they are&#8221;. That is an important distinction, subtle though it be. It is critical &#8211; absolutely important &#8211; to understand how the statment that &#8220;charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up&#8221; applies within one&#8217;s own self in order to become more charitable in this regard. This is not easy, and it is not natural. This is true of almost everyone, but it is most difficult for those who [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My New Year&#8217;s Resolution this year is taken from <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/1_cor/13/4-7#4">I Corinthians 13:4-7</a>.  In a nutshell, it is to become a little more charitable this year.  I am studying and trying to practice one of the manifestations of charity listed in Paul&#8217;s passage each month.  This month, the focus is on charity &#8220;vaunting not itself&#8221; and not being &#8220;puffed up&#8221;.  I write each Saturday about this resolution on my personal blog, and I want to share something with all of you that hit me as I was preparing to write my post for last Saturday. <span id="more-10151"></span></p>
<p>From my post two weeks ago about the attitude behind vaunting and being puffed up:</p>
<blockquote><p>If someone lacks charity, it&#8217;s not necessarily that he believes &#8220;they are worse than I am&#8221; &#8211; but rather that he believes &#8220;I am better than they are&#8221;. That is an important distinction, subtle though it be.</p></blockquote>
<p>It is critical &#8211; absolutely important &#8211; to understand how the statment that &#8220;charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up&#8221; applies within one&#8217;s own self in order to become more charitable in this regard. This is not easy, and it is not natural. This is true of almost everyone, but it is most difficult for those who are convinced of their own, personal faith perspective &#8211; <strong>both those who struggle with their faith community and those who are solidly established within it</strong>.</p>
<p>BOTH of these groups of people are characterized generally by a feeling of superiority when it comes to their understanding of Truth &#8211; and spirituality &#8211; and sociality &#8211; and leadership &#8211; and all other things religious (including Mormon). In practical terms, when we view ourselves as understanding the Gospel better than &#8220;those other members&#8221; AND think that they all would be better off if they simply were as enlightened as we are &#8211; at that moment we are being &#8220;puffed up&#8221; &#8211; and, in public groups (online or at church), that often leads to &#8220;vaunting itself&#8221; above others.</p>
<p>Bragging and boasting don&#8217;t have to be blatant and obvious. They can be subtle and encrypted &#8211; <strong>and I see it naturally both in those who are in the throes of bitterness and those in the entrenchment of an accepted mainstream</strong>.</p>
<p>If anyone wants an eye-opening experience, think about this distinction and definition as you go back and re-read your own comments here and in any online discussion groups where you have participated and/or continue to participate. (Also, think seriously about how you contribute to group discussions of other kinds &#8211; in any setting, but espeically at church.) <strong>See how many of your comments have either a subtle or obvious element of &#8220;vauntiness&#8221; or &#8220;puffiness&#8221;.</strong> Most of us have a long way to go in that regard, and it&#8217;s hard to see how far unless you are looking consciously for it.  It also is hard to eradicate unless you are working consciously to do so. </p>
<p><em>Thoughts?</em></p>
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		<title>Bednar Was Wrong About Facebook</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last year, Elder Bednar gave a talk at BYU-I on a subject that weighed deeply on his soul. At the time, I read his words and felt a twinge of sadness. How could he fear something as useful and worthwhile as online social networking? Sites like Facebook have integrated themselves into the fabric of our society like gold thread in a brilliant tapestry, or like the deep, misty green of kudzu here in Kentucky. It has become a part of who we are. Now, a year later, I still think that Elder Bednar was wrong. Facebook has and will permanently improve every aspect of our social lives. I wrote the following paper to illustrate why. In the late hours of October 23, 2003, slowly getting drunk after being rejected by a girl, a Harvard undergraduate and computer programmer named Mark Zuckerberg was hit by a sudden cruel bout of inspiration. He was looking through a photographic directory (called a “facebook”) of his dormitory, and noted on his blog that some of the photos were so “horrendous,” that he was tempted “to put some of these faces next to pictures of farm animals and have people vote on which is more [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Last year, Elder Bednar gave a talk at BYU-I on a subject that <a href="http://newsnet.byu.edu/story.cfm/72348">weighed deeply on his soul.</a> At the time, I read his words and felt a twinge of sadness.  How could he fear something as useful and worthwhile as online social networking?  Sites like Facebook have integrated themselves into the fabric of our society like gold thread in a brilliant tapestry, or like the deep, misty green of kudzu here in Kentucky.  It has become a part of who we are.</em></p>
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<p><em>Now, a year later, I still think that Elder Bednar was wrong.  Facebook has and will permanently improve every aspect of our social lives.  I wrote the following paper to illustrate why.</em></p>
<p>In the late hours of October 23, 2003, slowly getting drunk after being rejected by a girl, a Harvard undergraduate and computer programmer named Mark Zuckerberg was hit by a sudden cruel bout of inspiration. He was looking through a photographic directory (called a “facebook”) of his dormitory, and noted on his blog that some of the photos were so “horrendous,” that he was tempted “to put some of these faces next to pictures of farm animals and have people vote on which is more attractive.&#8221; Hours later, he had successfully created a website, abandoning the farm animals idea, but instead comparing Harvard students with each other using hacked photographs and information. Just a few hours later, and after 22,000 page views, Harvard officials had traced the source of the website and shut it down, citing privacy concerns. Now, with more than 1000 employees and over 400 million active users, according to Facebook Factsheet, Facebook.com carries underneath its stark blue banner a markedly different statement of purpose: “Facebook helps you connect and share with the people in your life.&#8221;<span id="more-10125"></span></p>
<p>Many have voiced concerns over the use of online social networking tools, such as Elder Bednar of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles.  He has called online presences &#8220;digital distractions, diversions, and detours&#8221; that could lead to difficulties in marriage, or a decrease in eternal, meaningful friendships.  I can&#8217;t help but think that anyone who has a problem with Facebook merely doesn&#8217;t know enough about it.</p>
<p>If Facebook were a country, it would be the third-largest by population, just under China and India, and Facebook is now offered in 70 languages. Around 200 million users will log on to Facebook in any given day, and of these, 35 million will update their statuses. More than 3 billion photos are uploaded to Facebook each month. By October 2007, Time magazine’s Bill Tancer reported that, among 18- to 24-year-olds, social networking was the most-accessed type of web site on the Internet, outranking email, search engines, and pornography. In fact, Tancer quips that, statistically, it seems that when online social networking use goes up, pornography use goes down. What could appeal to young people more than the institutionalized voyeurism offered by online pornography? Perhaps Mark Zuckerberg said it best, quoted in Rolling Stone: “People are more voyeuristic than what I would have thought.&#8221;</p>
<p>But Facebook is not just a tool for prying into our friends’ lives. Facebook offers ingenious and simple solutions to many of the problems that plague our youth today. Previous to online social networking services, people had to make friends through personal, non-digital interaction. This was often painstaking, emotionally taxing, and slow. In order to learn another person’s interests and favorite activities, one had to have arduous conversations, feigning interest and engagement until the relevant information could be obtained. Human beings were needlessly confusing and multi-faceted. Facebook offers a better way. On each Facebook user’s page is an “Info” page. There, the user lists their personal characteristics, including interests and activities. Popular ones include “sports,” “music,” and “reading.” Mine says “songwriting.&#8221; I can easily go through my friends list and find other people interested in songwriting. Finding kindred spirits is easier and simpler thanks to Facebook.</p>
<p>Finding people with similar interests is one thing, discovering a person’s sexual orientation was even worse. It was socially demanding, and sometimes had to be done through roundabout means. This often led to embarrassment and offense. It required tip-toeing around the issue, carefully gauging a person’s affiliation through indirect personal queries. People went years without even declaring their orientation, deciding rather to personally cultivate and incubate those feelings for long periods of time. In the meantime, their casual acquaintances were left scratching their heads and wishing that the issue could be settled, so that judgment could no longer be withheld. However, on a person’s Facebook Info page, there is a section where he or she can publicly state whether they are interested in women, men, or both. Mine says “Interested in: women.&#8221;</p>
<p>Similarly, religious affiliation was once seen as a private dimension of one’s personality, and thus it was socially unacceptable to attain this information without grueling theological and philosophical discourse. It was not uncommon to have to hear a person’s entire life story and reasons for believing, in order to arrive at their religious affiliation. These traits were once very personal, carefully guarded, and sacred. Often, religion was left out of discussions altogether, for fear that one might be invited to a church service, Bar Mitzvah, or mosque, or that a controversial issue might be ignited in conversation. With Facebook, the process is streamlined, and the risk of controversial discourse is eliminated. Just check their Info box. Mine says “Latter-day Saint.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thus, important evaluations about a person’s character can be made with the click of your mouse. No longer must a person withhold appraisal until a clearer picture of their friend is obtained. It is now easier than ever to avoid the people you disagree with, and reduce complex social interactions.</p>
<p>In the past, people often found themselves longing for information about long-lost friends. Conversations about the past included references to characteristics and traits of their old friends, questions as to their whereabouts, and wishing that one could talk to them again, punctuated with sighing ruminations on how time flies. With online social networking, one can easily find out what these people had for breakfast this morning (and every morning). Each Facebook user has a white box on their front page that reads, “What’s on your mind?” One may type in their current whereabouts, opinion on the weather, or recent activities in what is called a “status update.” Below this box are the status updates of many of one’s closest friends. Some examples on my front page from my friends include, “meh,” “Babysitin [sic] my little nephews <img src='http://mormonmatters.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ,” “irritated…..,” and “oh life!!!” My own status says, “Does anyone want to come with my Arabic class to eat Mediterranean tonight?”</p>
<p>You might notice that these status updates seem simplistic and reductionist. This is by design. Many social interactions that existed previous to Facebook were seeped in over-stimulating meaning. Much time and effort were wasted by young people trying to understand and connect with each other. Young people’s hearts and minds caught fire as they participated in these exchanges. Should we really be over-stimulating our young people? Facebook offers a superior form of interaction through its “poke” function. Poke is a harmless, meaningless, effortless interaction, which undoubtedly leads to little misunderstanding, anger, friendship, or violence amongst our youth. On a person’s page, there is an option to poke them. Poke serves no function; Facebook merely informs that person that they have been poked. They then have the option to poke back.</p>
<p>Therefore, conflict is avoided through personal detachment. And when conflict cannot be avoided, it requires relatively little effort. Consider the following. In previous social interactions, confronting someone with a personal conflict or problem was a difficult task requiring great courage. One had to organize thoughts, plan a confrontation, and meet face-to-face with the object of their problem in order to work out a resolution. With online social networking, sending an angry email requires only the click of a button, and no face-to-face dialogue. People no longer need long nights of sleep to temper their emotions; one can now easily send a confrontational diatribe at 3 a.m., before rationality and a night’s sleep dull one’s emotions. And what if one receives an email like this from a friend? They are easily unfriended, or, in other words, removed from one’s friends list.</p>
<p>You see, before online social networking, “friend” was a poorly-defined term. Making friends required gaining the trust of others, sincerity and earnestness in one’s interactions, and perhaps several months of kindness before the title “friend” could be conferred upon another. Online social networking offers an instantaneous, digital, text-based solution to problem of friendship: redefinition and demarcation. Friends can be added through mutual interests, close proximity of location, or other friends. One could easily add or unfriend everyone from his or her high school. For instance, take Paul, the bassist from my last band, and friend-of-a-friend. Is Paul my friend, or isn’t he? It’s easy to tell: about four months ago he unfriended me.</p>
<p>This might have offended me, but I have 614 other friends. I can easily compare my prestige and popularity to other people on my friends list by contrasting the number of friends I have to the number of friends they have. Facebook’s statistics page says that the average person has 130 friends. Boy, am I glad I’m not that guy. However, embarrassingly, my wife has a significantly greater number than me: 943.</p>
<p>One might think that Facebook enhances friendships, relationships, and acquaintances. I would go one step further. Facebook replaces them with something even better: simple, streamlined friendship units. We are all now units on an interacting yet efficient grid. According to Facebook’s statistics page, the average unit spends almost an hour a day on Facebook. In this time, units read information on their friends’ walls, look through their activities, interests, and pictures, play games, join groups with others that have similar interests, and post links to other web pages. Units often check their Facebook pages several times during the day, and Facebook is now even offered on iPhones and other hand-held wireless devices, giving units the ability to check their Facebook pages everywhere they go, all day long, whether they are at church, class, or a friend’s wedding. There are more than 100 million mobile Facebook units, and according to Facebook Factsheet, they are statistically 50% more active on Facebook than non-mobile units. Perhaps one day, all people will carry Facebook with them, thus inextricably bonding us with our new virtual identities.</p>
<p>It should be plain now how Facebook transcended its cruel and dehumanizing beginnings in Mark Zuckerberg’s dorm room, and grew to be the most popular online social networking service.  Elder Bednar is simply blind to the New Truth: Facebook is defining us, shaping us, and reducing us. May our now archaic system of human-to-human non-electronic social interactions stay where it belongs: the Stone Age.</p>
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		<title>A Marital Confession</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Aaron R. aka Rico</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A recent visit at FMH and John Dehlin’s Mormon Stories interview with fmhLisa (Butterworth) has made me realise something about myself that I am not very proud of.  Therefore, in the spirit of a post I wrote for another blog, I want to confess something.  I am sexist. It is not intentional.  In fact, I have, and would still call myself a feminist.  What are my qualifications for such a preposterous claim?  Well, first I wholeheartedly support equal rights and opportunities for women in all forms within a society.  Second, I was raised by feminist (then-single) Mormon housewife/full-time teacher.  Third, I have studied, support and work with feminist theory and research in my University education.  Fourth, I try to support my wife in her decisions regarding being a working-mum or SAHM. Yet, none of this did not help realise something.  Lisa described this way, ‘When I got married I really thought that we would be equal partners, and we were.  We really were.  He did as much of the housework as I did, we both worked, we both made money… But as soon as I had a baby I was just shocked at how my world changed and how there [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A recent visit at <a href="http://www.feministmormonhousewives.org/?p=2974">FMH</a> and John Dehlin’s Mormon Stories interview with <a href="http://mormonstories.org/?p=868">fmhLisa</a> (Butterworth) has made me realise something about myself that I am not very proud of.  Therefore, in the spirit of a post I wrote for <a href="http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/03/08/confession-as-a-spiritual-practice/">another blog</a>, I want to confess something.  I am sexist.<span id="more-10056"></span></p>
<p>It is not intentional.  In fact, I have, and would still call myself a feminist.  What are my qualifications for such a preposterous claim?  Well, first I wholeheartedly support equal rights and opportunities for women in all forms within a society.  Second, I was raised by feminist (then-single) Mormon housewife/full-time teacher.  Third, I have studied, support and work with feminist theory and research in my University education.  Fourth, I try to support my wife in her decisions regarding being a working-mum or SAHM.</p>
<p>Yet, none of this did not help realise something.  Lisa described this way, ‘When I got married I really thought that we would be equal partners, and we were.  We really were.  He did as much of the housework as I did, we both worked, we both made money… But as soon as I had a baby I was just shocked at how my world changed and how there was no equality anymore.  I was shocked of how much of that burden fell on me.’</p>
<p>From a different perspective <a href="http://www.feministmormonhousewives.org/?p=2974">Reese Dixon</a> both glories and laments being able to have only one ‘role’; that of being a mother.</p>
<p>I guess I have failed to see how our relationship is becoming more unequal.  It started out great, I think.  She worked while I was at School and I did the majority of the housework and the cooking.  Shortly after I was married I was called to a position that meant I was out a few evenings of the week; and then things began to change.  A short time later, my calling changed, and I was out more.  We moved, but I kept the same calling, had a baby and I graduated.  We managed that ok, I was home a lot and tried to make sure I would regularly share the different responsibilities.  I was home most of the time during the day and I could do that.  My wife returned to work and I looked after our baby and began my post-graduate study.</p>
<p>Just over a year ago, my calling changed again.  Now I was out nearly every evening and my studies required more time.  We got pregnant again and I began teaching.  Finally another baby arrived.</p>
<p>Recently, there are some weeks that I never cook and rarely clean.  Though I home, I work and so I see the kids but I don&#8217;t always get time with them and sometimes I rarely  change nappies or help feed.</p>
<p>Now, some might be thinking that if this is how we balance the responsibilities then that is fine.  The issue here is that I am unhappy with this and so is my wife.  The issue is that it is easier for me to allow this pattern to continue and I don&#8217;t like that about myself.</p>
<p>It is apparent that the systemic sexism in both the Church and the UK has made it easy for me to live out a patriarchal (not in a good way) existence by drawing me into the public sphere while simultaneously requiring that my wife live her life in private sphere.  That requirement is disseminated through the subtle, pernicious and quiet expectation that my wife will support me in my responsibilities.</p>
<p>I have need to repent for choosing to be acted upon rather than to act against the tide of these social influences.</p>
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		<title>Prophets, Seers and Bureaucrats</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Aaron R. aka Rico</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I listened recently to a Mormon Expression podcast with John Dehlin, in which he comments upon the difficult position the Church leaders face.  He observes that their are times when they make particular decisions based upon a legalistic-bureaucratic framework that sometimes seem incomprehensible, even unchristian but that these decision are understandable. I would like to ask this question: Is there an alternative? Quinn argues that during the explosive Church growth of the 1950’s-1970’s the Church attempted to draw upon a number of external influences in making the organization more efficient and effective.  At the same time there was an explosive growth in Church bureaucracy.  This led some to become concerned over the influence and direction of power and authority within the hierarchical structure. According to Quinn, both J. Reuben Clark Jr. and David O. McKay were concerned that the increasing bureaucratic, financial and organizational burden meant that the GA’s were not able (due to lack of knowledge or expertise) to make decisions that would need to be made.  They would, of necessity, have to rely upon technocrats and other specialists from the various sub-committees at Church Headquarters.  President McKay’s concern was that this movement would involve an ecclesiastical abdication of the God-given authority to led [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened recently to a Mormon Expression podcast with <a href="http://mormonstories.org/?p=788">John Dehlin</a>, in which he comments upon the difficult position the Church leaders face.  He observes that their are times when they make particular decisions based upon a legalistic-bureaucratic framework that sometimes seem incomprehensible, even unchristian but that these decision are understandable. I would like to ask this question: Is there an alternative?<span id="more-9670"></span></p>
<p>Quinn argues that during the explosive Church growth of the 1950’s-1970’s the Church attempted to draw upon a number of external influences in making the organization more efficient and effective.  At the same time there was an explosive growth in Church bureaucracy.  This led some to become concerned over the influence and direction of power and authority within the hierarchical structure.</p>
<p>According to Quinn, both J. Reuben Clark Jr. and David O. McKay were concerned that the increasing bureaucratic, financial and organizational burden meant that the GA’s were not able (due to lack of knowledge or expertise) to make decisions that would need to be made.  They would, of necessity, have to rely upon technocrats and other specialists from the various sub-committees at Church Headquarters.  President McKay’s concern was that this movement would involve an ecclesiastical abdication of the God-given authority to led the Church.</p>
<p>This model of Prophetic leadership in temporal, as well as spiritual matters, has a long and varied history in the standard works and has been exemplified by our earliest and most influential leaders.  The first reason therefore that I am unconvinced that there is an alternative to a mixture (even a heavy emphasis) on the bureaucratic, as opposed to the prophetic, in our Church leadership is that theologically they are expected to be able to guide a temporally-situated Church.  Yet, their burden is fraught with a multiplicity of complex challenges that Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and others never faced.</p>
<p>John Dehlin rightly notes that within this they have a responsibility to protect the image of the ‘Prophetic Mantle’.  In one sense, therefore, it seems possible that although they believe that as &#8216;Prophets, Seers and Revelators&#8217; they have a responsibility over the temporal, they also feel a sense of dissatisfaction or dissonance over the types of decisions they have to make.  This is evident by the fact they do not talk about such decisions and even try to mask these processes from the general membership because they feel that such decision-making processes might undermine the image of the ‘Prophetic Mantle’.  I think they are right; it might well have this effect.</p>
<p>Now it is possible to argue that the &#8216;Prophetic Mantle&#8217; does not need to be protected.  I can sympathise with this position however I believe that the Brethren intentionally present a view of their work which most accurately exemplifies what they expect from their local leaders.  Bishops and Stake Presidents do not make the same type of decisions that might require this legalistic-bureaucractic framework and they therefore expect local leaders to seek the Spirit in dealing with spiritual matters.  I am not convinced that this is disingenuous  but rather sense that they are trying to model the gospel in action to a culturally and intellectually diverse membership.</p>
<p>Therefore, they are in a tough, ecclesiastical bind.  Abdicate the responsibility for the kingdom (to a small or even a large extent) or face the possibility of undermining the ‘Prophetic Mantle’, which I believe they have, and giving scope for local leaders to approach issues in this same legalistic-bureaucractic manner.</p>
<p>I can see why they do what they do because I am not sure I see a valid alternative, theologically or organisationally.  Do you?</p>
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		<title>Bad, Worse and Worst</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Aaron R. aka Rico</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like to use Genesis 12 (and an interesting post by Aaron B from BCC) to examine the inverse of Elder Oak&#8217;s famous talk &#8216;Good, Better and Best&#8217;.  Simply stated Abraham was married to Sarai (who was apparently pretty hot!) and Pharoah was going to want to marry her.  His choice: either die as her husband and have his wife forced into marriage (in effect raped) or live as her &#8216;brother&#8217; and have his wife forced into marriage (and in effect raped).  What to do? Although I agree with Elder Oak in principle, I suspect that some of the decisions that I make will be of this more negative order.  Moreover, these will most probably be the more painful of the two types.  Lets consider the possible impact in Abraham and Sarai&#8217;s lives (and these might be possible questions to raise in SS if you can get them to cover this episode): How did Sarai feel about Abraham&#8217;s choice? How did Abraham feel about his choice, especially as he became wealthy as a result of such an act? Did they tell Isaac? Could Sarai have refused and how did Abraham feel about her not refusing? Now if Nibley were here he might [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to use Genesis 12 (and an interesting post by <a href="http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/02/24/genesis-12-abram-and-sarais-misadventures-in-egypt/">Aaron B</a> from BCC) to examine the inverse of Elder Oak&#8217;s famous talk <a href="http://www.lds.org/conference/talk/display/0,5232,49-1-775-38,00.html">&#8216;Good, Better and Best&#8217;</a>.  Simply stated Abraham was married to Sarai (who was apparently pretty hot!) and Pharoah was going to want to marry her.  His choice: either die as her husband and have his wife forced into marriage (in effect raped) or live as her &#8216;brother&#8217; and have his wife forced into marriage (and in effect raped).  What to do?<span id="more-9944"></span></p>
<p>Although I agree with Elder Oak in principle, I suspect that some of the decisions that I make will be of this more negative order.  Moreover, these will most probably be the more painful of the two types.  Lets consider the possible impact in Abraham and Sarai&#8217;s lives (and these might be possible questions to raise in SS if you can get them to cover this episode):</p>
<ul>
<li>How did Sarai feel about Abraham&#8217;s choice?</li>
<li>How did Abraham feel about his choice, especially as he became wealthy as a result of such an act?</li>
<li>Did they tell Isaac?</li>
<li>Could Sarai have refused and how did Abraham feel about her not refusing?</li>
</ul>
<p>Now if Nibley were here he might argue that this is merely a devilish trick to make us choose between two equally evil propositions (which is worse crack or heroine), but there is always a third choice.   If this is true then what was Abraham&#8217;s other choice?</p>
<p>Finally, is there any possible spiritual benefit in such choices?  Can any good come from them?</p>
<p>To my mind I feel that my life is a constant series of these types of choices and thus I am constantly given the choice between conflicting options that inevitably will lead to some negativity.  Perhaps I am just a half-empty kinda guy but I feel for Abraham.</p>
<p>My questions then are these:</p>
<p>Are there situations where there are only choices which are bad, worse and worst? Or can we always escape such decisions?</p>
<p>If so, is this possible a spiritually useful situation or do we just have to move through such experiences seeking forgiveness where we can?</p>
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		<title>Self-Esteem and Sexuality: Another approach to Chastity</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 06:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want to take a lead from Hawgrrrl, who recently posted on the value of Sex Education in trying to reduce the rate of unwanted pregnancies and instil values of chastity in young people, but approach it from a different avenue.  I recently attended a seminar which presented results from an investigation into the relationship between self-esteem and sexual activity for people in their teens.  Her results showed that having high self-esteem (perhaps to the point of being arrogant) actually serves a protective function against having sexual activity.  Simply stated: having high self-esteem means that you are more likely to have sex later in life.  However the results are not quite that simple. The results run like this: High Self-Esteem = Having sex later in life High Self-Esteem =Increased Promiscuity &#8211; This means that they will be less likely to have sex, but when they do they are more likely to have sex with a variety of partners.  Although on average, higher self-esteem does have a protective effect (i.e. it lowers the numbers of sexual partners). Higher Self-Esteem = Increased chance of using a condom.  Although for the highest levels of self-esteem this actuall drops slightly. High Self-Esteem = Means they are more likely [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to take a lead from Hawgrrrl, who recently posted on the value of <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2009/12/21/sex-ed-a-poll-2/">Sex Education</a> in trying to reduce the rate of unwanted pregnancies and instil values of chastity in young people, but approach it from a different avenue.  I recently attended a seminar which presented results from an investigation into the relationship between self-esteem and sexual activity for people in their teens.  Her results showed that having high self-esteem (perhaps to the point of being arrogant) actually serves a protective function against having sexual activity.  Simply stated: having high self-esteem means that you are more likely to have sex later in life.  However the results are not quite that simple.<span id="more-9595"></span></p>
<p>The results run like this:</p>
<ul>
<li>High Self-Esteem = Having sex later in life</li>
<li>High Self-Esteem =Increased Promiscuity &#8211; This means that they will be less likely to have sex, but when they do they are more likely to have sex with a variety of partners.  Although on average, higher self-esteem does have a protective effect (i.e. it lowers the numbers of sexual partners).</li>
<li>Higher Self-Esteem = Increased chance of using a condom.  Although for the highest levels of self-esteem this actuall drops slightly.</li>
<li>High Self-Esteem = Means they are more likely to use a form of Birth Control.</li>
</ul>
<p>What this indicates is that if the Church wants to decrease the number of young people having sex at a young age then they need to emphasise building self-esteem.  However, this raises other issues around how the Church might do this and whether other problems might arise from having young people with high self-esteem.</p>
<p>So what do you think?</p>
<p>Does this sound plausible?</p>
<p>Is it useful?</p>
<p>How would the Church go about increasing self-esteem in the youth?</p>
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		<title>The Sacred Made Real: Mormonism, Iconography and the Passion of Christ</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few weeks ago I attended an exhibition entitled ‘The Sacred made Real’ at the National Gallery in London. The collection was focussed on Spanish hyper-realism (painting and sculpture) between 1600-1700. Some of the more famous artists included in this collection were: Velazquez, Zurburan and de Mena. The intent of these artists was to provide life-like depictions of the suffering of Christ in order to invoke feelings of sympathy and awe in the observers. These artists wanted to create a form of spiritual devotion through the simulated presence of the Passion. I was surprised at my own response. Having served my mission in Ireland, I am familiar with the Catholic iconography that is present in many of their Churches. Having been raised Mormon I am familiar with the critical attitude toward these types of statues and paintings; and yet as I surveyed these works of art, some of them had a real impact upon me. Statues of the lacerated Jesus or of the dying Jesus or the crucified Jesus forced me to hold back tears for fear of embarrassment. Even a bust of the Virgin Mary moved me deeply. I sensed that it is a real loss to Mormon culture [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few weeks ago I attended an exhibition entitled ‘The Sacred made Real’ at the National Gallery in London. The collection was focussed <img class="alignright" title="Art1" src="http://heracliteanfire.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Sacred-Made-Real-Christ-a-016.jpg" alt="" width="199" height="300" />on Spanish hyper-realism (painting and sculpture) between 1600-1700. Some of the more famous artists included in this collection were: Velazquez, Zurburan and de Mena. The intent of these artists was to provide life-like depictions of the suffering of Christ in order to invoke feelings of sympathy and awe in the observers. These artists wanted to create a form of spiritual devotion through the simulated presence of the Passion. I was surprised at my own response. <span id="more-9656"></span></p>
<p>Having served my mission in Ireland, I am familiar with the Catholic iconography that is present in many of their Churches. Having been raised Mormon I am familiar with the critical attitude toward these types of statues and paintings; and yet as I surveyed these works of art, some of them had a real impact upon me. Statues of the lacerated Jesus or of the dying Jesus or the crucified Jesus forced me to hold back tears for fear of embarrassment. Even a bust of the Virgin Mary moved me deeply. I sensed that it is a real loss to Mormon culture that we do not readily engage with these products of devotion.</p>
<p>Much of the LDS art that I have seen of Jesus seems banal and insipid. We see a calm, collected and/or kind Jesus; and yet he is rarely depicted in any of the extremes of suffering or joy that was surely part of the humanity of his life. I am aware of exceptions; but even these pail in insignificance to what these Spanish artists created. I believe that Jesus was, at times calm, collected and kind; but I also believe he experienced the full range of human emotions (good and bad). I believe his model for living was abundance.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft" title="Art2" src="http://www.eventsworldwide.com/SacredMadeReal3.jpg" alt="" width="259" height="173" />More confusing to me is that the LDS ‘Lamb of God’ video is different. It makes an explicit attempt to evoke this type of passionate response in the audience by alluding to the vicious suffering of Jesus. Why is it that film is more acceptable as a means of presenting this kind of devotional material? Is this merely a cultural distinction, an anti-catholic hangover from Nineteenth century America, and if so is it not about time that we extend Priesthood legitimacy to all worthy forms of Art.</p>
<p>Perhaps Eugene England was right when he said that Mormons do not experience the &#8216;tragic&#8217; as frequently as others because of the success of our religion, but I doubt it.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="425" height="344" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="src" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/RuDqxn8zXgY&amp;hl=en_GB&amp;fs=1&amp;" /><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/RuDqxn8zXgY&amp;hl=en_GB&amp;fs=1&amp;" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always"></embed></object></p>
<p>Yet this raises another question, why do we need to use these different media to help us connected with Jesus and his suffering. Are we more able to sense the visceral reality of his wounds if they are shown to us? Can we more easily believe in the atonement if we can see the suffering of Christ? If this is so, would not these type of ‘passion’ iconography be a useful medium to help latter-day Saints explore their relationship to our Lord?</p>
<p>Perhaps Mormons need to more fully explore the spiritual artistic heritages that are rooted in other faiths as well as trying to promote our own. I certainly feel that my faith has been enriched by some of what our extended Christian heritage has produced.</p>
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		<title>Church Growth and the Tendency toward Liberalism</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 06:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Aaron R. aka Rico</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some time ago, as a guest I wrote a post entitled &#8216;Academic freedom in the Church&#8216; which tried to explore some of liberalizing tendencies seen in LDS culture since the September Six, but particularly over the last decade.  Having recently read an excellent (as usual) article by D. Michael Quinn on the development of the &#8216;Sacral Power Structure&#8216; of Mormonism, I wanted to re-visit this issue as a result of some of the reasons he gives for the increasing authoritarianism and conservatism in the Church.  Quinn argues that the expansive growth of the Church during the 1950-1970&#8242;s led the hierarchy to emphasize an &#8216;unquestioning rank-and-file obedience to Church directives&#8217; which is rooted in the &#8216;inherent fear of centrifugal tendencies of enormous Church growth&#8217;[1].  One way this tendency has been manifested is the shifting practice concerning Common Consent, which I previously discussed here.  Quinn also argues that during the 19th century and the early part of the 20th century, sustaining votes were sometimes used to reject the proposed candidate.  This was encouraged in the context of a voluntary obedience.  However, following the presidencies of Joseph Fielding Smith and Harold B. Lee, the discourse around common consent became associated with the idea that a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some time ago, as a guest I wrote a post entitled &#8216;<a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2009/06/15/academic-freedom-in-the-church/">Academic freedom in the Church</a>&#8216; which tried to explore some of<a href="http://www.ldsgospelink.com/next/doc?book_doc_id=281531"> liberalizing tendencies seen in LDS </a>culture since the September Six, but particularly over the last decade.  Having recently read an excellent (as usual) article by D. Michael Quinn on the development of the &#8216;<a href="http://content.lib.utah.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/dialogue&amp;CISOPTR=17506&amp;REC=4">Sacral Power Structure</a>&#8216; of Mormonism, I wanted to re-visit this issue as a result of some of the reasons he gives for the increasing authoritarianism and conservatism in the Church.  Quinn argues that the expansive growth of the Church during the 1950-1970&#8242;s led the hierarchy to emphasize an &#8216;unquestioning rank-and-file obedience to Church directives&#8217; which is rooted in the &#8216;inherent fear of centrifugal tendencies of enormous Church growth&#8217;[1]. <span id="more-8931"></span></p>
<p>One way this tendency has been manifested is the shifting practice concerning Common Consent, which I previously discussed <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2009/10/04/common-consent-democracy-or-prophetocracy/">here</a>.  Quinn also argues that during the 19th century and the early part of the 20th century, sustaining votes were sometimes used to reject the proposed candidate.  This was encouraged in the context of a voluntary obedience.  However, following the presidencies of Joseph Fielding Smith and Harold B. Lee, the discourse around common consent became associated with the idea that a vote against a leadership decision was a rejection of the will of the Lord.  Thus, Church leader&#8217;s fears of losing control completely of the membership may have led them to emphasis a new type of relationship with Church authorities.  Quinn argues that this can be seen through a concern that some leaders had that the Church would be run by specialists rather than priesthood authority, thus the increased emphasis upon the &#8216;brethren&#8217;.</p>
<p>What does this mean for the Church currently and its membership?  Much has been said both officially, at GC, and unofficially, among the membership, about Church growth.  In general it has slowed (or flat-lined) over the last decade across the world.  It is possible therefore, that as Church growth slows or remains constant that we will see reversals in the way the Church approaches the issues of authoritarianism and doctrine.  I am not trying to argue that the Church is ever wholly conservative or liberal.  My point however is that as new ideas, practices and technologies are assimilated in the Church&#8217;s power structure there will inevitably be the emergence of new assemblages of power and new types of discourse.  In the same way that new conservative mechanisms where emphasised and solidifed throught the development of new media, so it is possible that these same changes could provide more liberalising assemblages/discourses.  Thus it is possible that as the Church, and its culture, become more firmly established its Leaders may become more relaxed about &#8216;the centrifugal tendencies&#8217; Quinn observes.</p>
<p>However, the problem with this hypothesis is that Church growth is not equal across the world.  We have already seen these fears manifest themselves in the Church&#8217;s response to exponential growth in areas such as Chile and Philippines (where in each case they sent Apostles to specifically preside over those areas).  Contrastingly, the emphasis on finding local leadership at the general level (Area Authority Seventies &#8211; and the like) may result in increased scope for variation and interpretation[2].  Thus it is possible that in those areas like Western Europe (where I am from) where the Church is established and hardly growing, there might be increasing tendency toward liberalism, while in areas of relative instability the emphasis will remain on unquestioning obedience.  However such differences are of course mediated by whether the Church wants to retain a unified approach across the globe (a fact which some have posited will be a major restriction to Church growth[3].</p>
<p>It is possible that the previous liberalisation toward academia, argued for in my previous post, may be part of a wider dynamic linked to the slowing down of Church growth?</p>
<p>Do you think this is plausible?</p>
<p>Notes:</p>
<p>1. D. Michael Quinn, <em>From Sacred Grove to Sacral Power Structure</em> in Dialogue, vol. 17, no. 2 [Salt Lake city, UT.: Dialogue Foundation, 1984] p. 29.</p>
<p>2. Armand L. Mauss, <em>Can there be a Second Harvest?</em> in International Journal of Mormon Studies, vol. 1, no. 1, [online, 2008], pp. 1-59.</p>
<p>3. Douglas J. Davies, <a href="http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,510-1-3067-1,00.html">World Religion: Dynamics &amp; Constraints</a> at The Worlds of Joseph Smith Conference.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[A recent post by Cr@ig on Main Street Plaza caused me to reflect on the strength of interfaith marriages. I had hoped to generate a follow-up post on this topic at MSP. However, since the comments on the Cr@ig&#8217;s post devolved into a blame game of whether the believer or non-believer was more responsible for marital dissolution, I decided it was probably best to avoid a second opportunity for mud-slinging. Differences in religious belief can be the death knell to a marriage. For that reason, many organized religions strongly advocate against being &#8220;yoked with unbelievers&#8221;. This is not only a Mormon phenomenon; you see this in any faith tradition that teaches that they alone have exclusive access to God. Even before marriage, it is rare for the unmarried, devout Mormon to even consider dating (let alone marrying) a non-Mormon; most LDS women raised in the Church are taught from an early age to make a temple marriage to a returned missionary their primary goal. Likewise, in the Catholic Church, marriage to any non-Catholic (including Protestants!) is not permitted within a Catholic church building, and is not considered to be a Sacrament. In particularly conservative Catholic cultures, it really is considered [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A <a href="http://latterdaymainstreet.com/?p=1366">recent post by Cr@ig on Main Street Plaza</a> caused me to reflect on the strength of interfaith marriages. I had hoped to generate a follow-up post on <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/widget_aNmyKwVTviYyKT3urbhn6J.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-9568" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/widget_aNmyKwVTviYyKT3urbhn6J.jpg" alt="" width="232" height="232" /></a>this topic at MSP. However, since the comments on the Cr@ig&#8217;s post devolved into a blame game of whether the believer or non-believer was more responsible for marital dissolution, I decided it was probably best to avoid a second opportunity for mud-slinging.</p>
<p>Differences in religious belief can be the death knell to a marriage. For that reason, many organized religions strongly advocate against being &#8220;yoked with unbelievers&#8221;. This is not only a Mormon phenomenon; you see this in any faith tradition that teaches that they alone have exclusive access to God. Even before marriage, it is rare for the unmarried, devout Mormon to even consider dating (let alone marrying) a non-Mormon; most LDS women raised in the Church are taught from an early age to make a temple marriage to a returned missionary their primary goal.<span id="more-9567"></span></p>
<p>Likewise, in the Catholic Church, marriage to any non-Catholic (including Protestants!) is not permitted within a Catholic church building, and is not considered to be a Sacrament. In particularly conservative Catholic cultures, it really is considered a heresy to marry someone not of the (same rite of the) Catholic Church. Consider, for example, the movie My Big Fat Greek Wedding: Toula refuses to marry Protestant Ian until he joins the Greek Orthodox Church (thus leading to a humorous scene of Ian being baptized).</p>
<p>Similar to Mormon &#8216;Marriage Prep&#8217; and &#8216;Temple Prep&#8217; Sunday School courses, dating Catholic couples are required to pursue a several-month course of marriage preparations classes, known as Pre-Cana. Similar to Mormons, Catholics who have pre-marital sexual relations (usually known from the resulting offspring) cannot be married on Catholic church grounds. However, they can have their marriage &#8220;convalidated&#8221; at a later date, similar to to a family being &#8216;sealed&#8217; a year after a civil marriage.</p>
<p>I compare these things not so much to indicate how Catholics do things so much as to show just how non-unique Mormons are in many ways with regards to their approach to interfaith marriage.</p>
<p>Disbelief that comes after marriage, however, is harder to deal with. Despite the admonition of Paul in the 1 Corinthians that:</p>
<blockquote><p>[I]f any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is consecrated through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is consecrated through her husband. Otherwise, your children would be unclean, but as it is they are holy. (1 Cor. 7:12-14)</p></blockquote>
<p>it is really not all that uncommon to see marriages Mormon temple marriages dissolve once one member of the union loses faith. The same can also be true in Catholic culture, where one of the vows made at the altar is to raise your children Catholic.</p>
<p>A few examples, then, to illustrate some of what I am talking about:</p>
<p>A Mormon female friend of mine (who also happens to be a reader of this blog) attended a non-LDS university for college. Her Patriarchal Blessing was explicit that she was to marry an RM in the temple. When a Baptist schoolmate asked her on a date, she turned him down several times before giving him an ultimatum: She would only go on a date with him if he would read the Book of Mormon and consent to taking the missionary discussions. Confident that the Mormon church was misguided, and that he could show her the error of her ways, he consented. He joined the LDS Church and they two were married in the temple a year later. Obviously, she and the Church would consider this example to be a huge success story; his Baptist family, in contrast, at that time considered their daughter-in-law to be the devil incarnate. (I suspect that they mellowed with time).</p>
<p>Another friend at the same university for four years dated a non-Mormon off and on, and was fairly involved with him physically (although never so far that she needed to go to the Bishop). She loved him and he proposed to her, but since he was not interested in the Church, she said no. Several years later, she met and married a convert of 1 year, in the temple. Another Church success story.</p>
<p>A Jewish friend attended a Jew-friendly university, but did not find a spouse. She later moved to an area in the Midwest that was predominantly Protestant, and met and fell in love with a Protestant. They moved in together, but when her family would call or visit, she threw him out of the house for the weekend. When her parents found out that she was dating this man, they first gave her a series of lectures on being &#8216;married under the canopy&#8217; and of all that her grandmother had suffered at Auschwitz. They then cut off all verbal communication with her. When the grandmother found out about the boyfriend, she literally suffered a stroke. She broke up with the boyfriend, and later married an Orthodox Jew and was welcomed back into her family.</p>
<p>A Muslim co-worker of my husband&#8217;s met and married a Hindi woman. The parents of the Muslim refuse to acknowledge their daughter-in-law, and the parents of the Hindu refuse to call the Muslim by his real name, instead calling him by the Hindi equivalent.</p>
<p>When I married my husband, we were both Mormon, however I had converted to the Church as a young adult. My mother&#8217;s side of the family (who are culturally Catholic) refused to speak with my husband at family functions and boycotted our wedding. Indeed, my own marriage might now be considered as an interfaith marriage, with each of us losing our faith in the LDS Church and taking divergent faith paths. I&#8217;ve left the LDS Church and now consider myself a post-Mormon liberal Catholic, returning to the faith of my mothers (since Catholicism in America is largely passed down matriarchally). My husband is an agnostic atheist who remains actively Mormon: regularly attending his meetings and &#8216;magnifying&#8217; his calling, held in the church by the faith of his fathers. My family is urging me to do what my responsibility as a Catholic mother would be: to baptize my son Catholic and raise him in the Catholic Church.</p>
<p>And so it goes, and so it goes. Its remarkable how adherents of all faiths claim that God will only recognize marriage in their church.</p>
<p>Through it all, my husband and I have retained enormous respect for each other and our religious decisions, as well as the effect that those decisions have on our son. I think respect for each other is really the only way such marriages can survive. My husband&#8217;s loss of belief was founded in his respect for me: Trusting that my reasoning was sound, he wanted to determine for himself what validity there was in my conclusions. Obviously, we came to different end-points, but part of respect is learning to accept (and even welcome) differences of opinion and conclusion.</p>
<p>My questions for the readership are these:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are your stories?</li>
<li>How can a couple who finds themselves in a Mormon interfaith marriage make the relationship work?</li>
<li> Is it possible to maintain a believing Mormon/non-believer relationship?</li>
<li>If so, what components are required?</li>
</ul>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many of you in the bloggernacle thrive on having two opposing ideas at once in your head. I have always found that difficult. I have seen many who can’t cope with it at all and have to come to a conclusion one way or the other or their belief system will cave in and their minds will explode. I have all the best intentions in the world to start a series on cognitive dissonance this year. To start off I have found some quotes from the brethren which seems to be in opposition to each other. I am sure some of you will figure out away in which they are not! Don’t Think for Yourself!! &#8220;Any Latter-day Saint who denounces or opposes whether actively or otherwise, any plan or doctrine advocated by the prophets, seers, revelators&#8217; of the church, is cultivating the spirit of apostasy. One cannot speak evil of the lord&#8217;s annointed&#8230; and retain the holy spirit in his heart. This sort of game is Satan&#8217;s favorite pastime, and he has practiced it to believing souls since Adam. He {Satan} wins a great victory when he can get members of the church to speak against their leaders and to [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: justify"><strong>Many of you in the bloggernacle thrive on having two opposing ideas at once in your head. I have always found that difficult.  I have seen many who can’t cope with it at all and have to come to a conclusion one way or the other or their belief system will cave in and their minds will explode.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify"><strong>I have all the best intentions in the world to start a series on cognitive dissonance this year.  To start off I have found some quotes from the brethren which seems to be in opposition to each other. I am sure some of you will figure out away in which they are not!</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Don’t Think for Yourself!!</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify">&#8220;Any Latter-day Saint who denounces or opposes whether actively or otherwise, any plan or doctrine advocated by the prophets, seers, revelators&#8217; of the church, is cultivating the spirit of apostasy. One cannot speak evil of the lord&#8217;s annointed&#8230; and retain the holy spirit in his heart. This sort of game is Satan&#8217;s favorite pastime, and he has practiced it to believing souls since Adam. He {Satan} wins a great victory when he can get members of the church to speak against their leaders and to do their own thinking.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">&#8220;When our leaders speak, the thinking has been done. When they propose a plan&#8211;it is God&#8217;s Plan. When they point the way, there is no other which is safe. When they give directions, it should mark the end of controversy, God works in no other way. To think otherwise, without immediate repentance, may cost one his faith, may destroy his testimony, and leave him a stranger to the kingdom of God.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ward Teachers Message, Deseret News, Church Section p. 5, May 26, 1945<br />
Also included in the <em>Improvement Era</em>, June 1945 (which was the official church magazine before the <em>Ensign</em>)</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">&#8220;Always keep your eye on the President of the church, and if he ever tells you to do anything, even if it is wrong, and you do it, the lord will bless you for it but you don&#8217;t need to worry. The lord will never let his mouthpiece lead the people astray.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">LDS President Marion G. Romney (of the first presidency), quoting LDS President (and prophet) Heber J. Grant &#8220;Conference Report&#8221; Oct. 1960 p. 78</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">&#8220;The Lord Almighty leads this Church, and he will never suffer you to be led astray if you are found doing your duty. You may go home and sleep as sweetly as a babe in its mother&#8217;s arms, as to any danger of your leaders leading you astray, for if they should try to do so the Lord would quickly sweep them from the earth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 9, p. 289, 1862.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;When the Prophet speaks the debate is over&#8221;.</p>
<p>N. Eldon Tanner, August <em>Ensign</em> 1979, pages 2-3</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">&#8220;I sat in this tabernacle some years ago as President Joseph Fielding Smith stood at this pulpit. It was the general priesthood meeting of April 1972, the last general conference before President Smith passed away. He said: &#8216;There is one thing which we should have exceedingly clear in our minds. Neither the President of the Church, nor the First Presidency, or the united voice of the First Presidency and the Twelve will ever lead the Saints astray or send forth counsel to the world that is contrary to the mind and will of the lord&#8217;.&#8221;</p>
<p>L. Aldin Porter of the Presidency of the First Quorum of Seventies (<em>Ensign</em>, Nov. 1994, p. 63)</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>&#8220;Follow your leaders who have been duly ordained and have been publicly sustained, and you will not be led astray.&#8221;</p>
<p>Boyd K. Packer (General Conference, Oct. 1992; <em>Ensign</em>, Nov. 1992)</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>&#8220;The Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray.&#8221;</p>
<p>President Wilford Woodruff (considered scripture as it is canonized at the end of the D&amp;C)</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Think for Yourself!!</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify">President Joseph F. Smith said, &#8220;We talk of obedience, but do we require any man or woman to ignorantly obey the counsels that are given? Do the First Presidency require it? No, never.&#8221; (<em>Journal of Discources</em> (JD) 16:248)</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">Apostle Charles W. Penrose, who would later serve as counselor to President Smith, declared: &#8220;President Wilford Woodruff is a man of wisdom and experience, and we respect him, but we do not believe his personal views or utterances are revelations from God; and when &#8216;Thus saith the Lord&#8217;, comes from him, the saints investigate it: they do not shut their eyes and take it down like a pill.&#8221; (<em>Millennial Star</em> 54:191)</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">&#8220;And none are required to tamely and blindly submit to a man because he has a portion of the priesthood. We have heard men who hold the priesthood remark, that they would do anything they were told to do by those who presided over them, if they knew it was wrong; but such obedience as this is worse than folly to us; it is slavery in the extreme; and the man who would thus willingly degrade himself should not claim a rank among intelligent beings, until he turns from his folly. A man of God&#8230; would despise the idea. Others, in the extreme exercise of their almighty authority have taught that such obedience was necessary, and that no matter what the saints were told to do by their presidents, they should do it without asking any questions. When Elders of Israel will so far indulge in these extreme notions of obedience as to teach them to the people, it is generally because they have it in their minds to do wrong themselves.&#8221; (<em>Millennial Star</em>, vol.14 #38, pp. 593-95)</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Brigham Young said:</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">&#8220;What a pity it would be, if we were led by one man to utter destruction! Are you afraid of this? I am more afraid that this people have so much confidence in their leaders that they will not inquire for themselves of God whether they are led by him. I am fearful they settle down in a state of blind self-security, trusting their eternal destiny in the hands of their leaders with a reckless confidence that in itself would thwart the purposes of God in their salvation, and weaken the influence they could give to their leaders, did they know for themselves, by the revelations of Jesus, that they are led in the right way. Let every man and woman know, themselves, whether their leaders are walking in the path the Lord dictates, or not. This has been my exhortation continually.&#8221; (JD 9:150)</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">&#8220;How easy it would be for your leaders to lead you to destruction, unless you actually know the mind and will of the spirit yourselves.&#8221; (JD 4:368)</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">&#8220;I do not wish any Latter-day Saint in this world, nor in heaven, to be satisfied with anything I do, unless the Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ, the spirit of revelation, makes them satisfied&#8230;Suppose that the people were heedless, that they manifested no concern with regard to the things of the kingdom of God, but threw the whole burden upon the leaders of the people, saying, &#8216;If the brethren who take charge of matters are satisfied, we are,&#8217; this is not pleasing in the sight of the Lord.&#8221; (JD 3:45)</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">&#8220;&#8230;Now those men, or those women, who know no more about the power of God, and the influences of the Holy Spirit, than to be led entirely by another person, suspending their own understanding, and pinning their faith upon another&#8217;s sleeve, will never be capable of entering into the celestial glory, to be crowned as they anticipate; they will never be capable of becoming Gods. They cannot rule themselves, to say nothing of ruling others, but they must be dictated to in every trifle, like a child. They cannot control themselves in the least, but James, Peter, or somebody else must control them. They never can become Gods, nor be crowned as rulers with glory, immortality, and eternal lives. They never can hold sceptres of glory, majesty, and power in the celestial kingdom. Who will? Those who are valiant and inspired with the true independence of heaven, who will go forth boldly in the service of their God, leaving others to do as they please, determined to do right, though all mankind besides should take the opposite course. Will this apply to any of you? Your own hearts can answer.&#8221; (JD 1:312)</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">&#8220;President Joseph Smith read the 14th chapter of Ezekiel [see, for example, verses 9-10: 'If the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing...the punishment of the prophet shall be even as the punishment of him that seeketh unto him.']&#8230;said the Lord had declared by the Prophet [Ezekiel], that the people should each one stand for himself, and depend on no man or men in that state of corruption of the Jewish church &#8212; that righteous persons could only deliver their own souls &#8212; applied it to the present state [1842] of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints &#8212; said if the people departed from the Lord, they must fall &#8212; that they were depending on the Prophet, hence were darkened in their minds, in consequence of neglecting the duties devolving upon themselves&#8230;&#8221; (<em>Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith</em> pp. 237-38)</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p style="text-align: justify">George Q. Cannon, Counselor to three Church Presidents, expressed it thus: &#8220;Do not, brethren, put your trust in man though he be a bishop, an apostle, or a president. If you do, they will fail you at some time or place; they will do wrong or seem to, and your support be gone;&#8221; (<em>Millennial Star</em> 53:658-59, quoted in <em>Gospel Truth</em>, 1:319)</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify"><strong>Have you had experiences where you think you have genuinely had bad advice from following your leaders?</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify"><strong>Later prophets and apostles trump older ones. How do you think the older ones feel about that?<br />
</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify"><strong>Have you had times where you had so much on your plate you were glad to let someone think for you and it worked out for the best?<br />
</strong></p>
<p><strong>Should we think for ourselves in the church or should we let the Brethren think for us that is the question?<br />
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		<title>Did Mormon Influence Increase over the Decade?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My wife brought this to my attention while reading the front page of the Deseret News:  2000s: The First Decade-Mormon Church Influence Soars.  Without providing any sources, it says, President Thomas S. Monson has been named the most influential 80-year-old in America and Joseph Smith and Brigham Young are listed among the most important 100 Americans in history Other noteworthy items from the article include from the past decade: After the Sept. 11 attacks in 2001, President Hinckley was one of the first guests Larry King interviewed on his nationally televised program. President Hinckley attended a special summit at the White House to counsel President George W. Bush. Winter Olympics in SLC with many Mormon Interpreters PBS documentary Prop 8 vote in California Humanitarian efforts in various earthquakes, wildfires, famine, war, hurricanes and floods around the world. Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney ran for president, Sen. Harry Reid became Senate Majority leader, and pundit Glenn Beck offered a play-by-play account of the battle lines that separated their political parties. David Archuleta sang himself into the hearts of Middle America on &#8220;American Idol,&#8221; Stephenie Meyer wrote of high-minded vampires, selling millions of novels that primed a series of movies. City Creek Center [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife brought this to my attention while reading the front page of the Deseret News:  <a href="http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705355618/2000s-The-First-Decade-2-Mormon-Church-influence-soars.html?pg=2">2000s: The First Decade-Mormon Church Influence Soars</a>.  Without providing any sources, it says,</p>
<blockquote><p>President Thomas S. Monson has been named the most influential 80-year-old in America and Joseph Smith and Brigham Young are listed among the most important 100 Americans in history</p></blockquote>
<p>Other noteworthy items from the article include from the past decade:<span id="more-8901"></span></p>
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<li>After the Sept. 11 attacks in 2001, President Hinckley was one of the first guests Larry King interviewed on his nationally televised program.</li>
<li>President Hinckley attended a special summit at the White House to counsel President George W. Bush.</li>
<li>Winter Olympics in SLC with many Mormon Interpreters</li>
<li>PBS documentary</li>
<li>Prop 8 vote in California</li>
<li>Humanitarian efforts in various earthquakes, wildfires, famine, war, hurricanes and floods around the world.</li>
<li>Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney ran for president,</li>
<li>Sen. Harry Reid became Senate Majority leader, and</li>
<li>pundit Glenn Beck offered a play-by-play account of the battle lines that separated their political parties.</li>
<li>David Archuleta sang himself into the hearts of Middle America on &#8220;American Idol,&#8221;</li>
<li>Stephenie Meyer wrote of high-minded vampires, selling millions of novels that primed a series of movies.</li>
<li>City Creek Center will literally remake downtown Salt Lake City.</li>
<li>The number of temples built or planned reached 151 during the decade.</li>
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<p>Do, what do you think?  Vote and comment.</p>
<p>[poll id="92"]</p>
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		<title>The Word of Wisdom and the Temple: Personal, Political and Prophetic Dimensions</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 06:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obedience to the Word of Wisdom, it is commonly known, was not always a requirement for entering the Temple or advancement in the Priesthood.  What is less clear from the historicl record is when this principle moved to become a requirement.  President Joseph Fielding Smith believed the change occurred in 1851, but an excellent article by McCue has shown this cannot be the case [1].  Others have argued that it occurred under the Joseph F. Smith administration (he seems to have been the first to have said it was a commandment &#8211; but it was only made a test of fellowship in extreme cases and informally in a letter dated Dec 28 1915 [2]).  Contrastingly Thomas Alexander argued that it happened under President Grant.  I agree with Alexander, but there is even confusion about when it was made official, was it early 20&#8242;s or early 30&#8242;s and what led to these changes? According to Allen and Leonard ‘perhaps no doctrine was preached more enthusiastically by President Grant or stressed more in Church literature during his administration than the Word of Wisdom’ [3].  Arrington’s seminal (if not a little controversial essay) on the economic factors that led to the importance of the Word of Wisdom [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obedience to the Word of Wisdom, it is commonly known, was not always a requirement for entering the Temple or <img class="alignright" src="http://wendyusuallywanders.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/heber_j_grant.jpg" alt="" width="156" height="197" />advancement in the Priesthood.  What is less clear from the historicl record is when this principle moved to become a requirement.  President Joseph Fielding Smith believed the change occurred in 1851, but an excellent article by McCue has shown this cannot be the case [1].  Others have argued that it occurred under the Joseph F. Smith administration (he seems to have been the first to have said it was a commandment &#8211; but it was only made a test of fellowship in extreme cases and informally in a letter dated Dec 28 1915 [2]).  Contrastingly Thomas Alexander argued that it happened under President Grant.  I agree with Alexander, but there is even confusion about when it was made official, was it early 20&#8242;s or early 30&#8242;s and what led to these changes?</p>
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<p>According to Allen and Leonard ‘perhaps no doctrine was preached more enthusiastically by President Grant or stressed more in Church literature during his administration than the Word of Wisdom’ [3].  Arrington’s seminal (if not a little controversial <a href="http://www.signaturebookslibrary.org/byu/chapter2.htm">essay</a>) on the economic factors that led to the importance of the Word of Wisdom deals with the period till 1900 and misses some crucial occurrences in the lead up to this principle becoming a ‘commandment’.</p>
<p><strong>The Personal</strong></p>
<p>President Grant had a friend who had died young because of alcohol related problems (according to Truman Madsen it was cirrhosis of the liver [4]).  At the funeral President Grant records, in a sermon given in 1931, that ‘as I stood at his grave I looked up to heaven and made a pledge to my God that liquor and tobacco would have in me an enemy who would fight with all the ability that God would give me to the day of my death, and I have kept that pledge so far’[5].  Perhaps what haunted President Grant most was that this young man had given up his habits to serve a mission, but had quickly resumed them when he finished his service.</p>
<p><strong>The Political</strong></p>
<p>According to the Encyclopaedia of Mormonism ‘The [prohibition] movement intensified the Church&#8217;s interest in the Word of Wisdom. There is evidence that Church Presidents John Taylor, Joseph F. Smith, and Heber J. Grant wanted to promote adherence to the Word of Wisdom as a precondition for entering LDS temples or holding office in any Church organization; and indeed, by 1930 abstinence from the use of alcohol, tobacco, coffee, and tea had become an official requirement for those seeking temple recommends.’[6].   </p>
<p>It seems this interest became even more pronounced when the calls for repeal began.  President Grant’s concern can be seen in his April 2, 1932 General Conference address.  There was a controversial speech by Elder Stephen L. Richards at that same conference which will be discussed later.  But at the very least, it seems that President Grant’s emphasis on making the Word of Wisdom a requirement emerged out of a political context in which he saw liquor becoming a problem for the Latter-day Saints.  He had lived through and been an Apostle through some of the previous period of emphasis which Arrington documents, and perhaps did not want to see the Church membership go down that road again.</p>
<p>Perhaps President Grant saw the Church collectively as being like his friend.  He may thought the membership would enter a period of relapse; and he was trying to prevent it.</p>
<p><strong>The Prophetic</strong></p>
<p>What is surprising, is that in President Grant’s sermons on this issue and on the policy change he does not cite any direct revelation.  Interestingly, President Grant said in 1928, which seems to contradict Alexander&#8217;s thesis of the 1921 date, that &#8216;the Lord has not made this an absolute commandment&#8217;.  The implication here from President Grant however, is that if the Lord asks his people to do something then we should respond.  In addition, in a CHI (published in 1928) the Word of Wisdom was not explicitly mentioned as a requirement for the Temple, but was in the 1933 edition [2].  Thus although the issue seems to have been informally incorporated as policy its codification was not enforced until the early 1930&#8242;s in-line with the possible repeal of Prohibition. </p>
<p>In addition, the evidence suggests that there has never been a sustaining vote on this issue [1].  I am not claiming that President Grant never believed he had received revelation on this issue nor that he never shared a testimony that he believed this principle was revelation.  What interests me is how, as a Prophet, he did not justify this change by referring to a revelatory experience but rather in a personal commitment to a principle and to political or social fears.  I would have expected an effort, like President Kimball discusses, of overcoming bias and prejudice that individuals hold in order to prepare for revelation.  For President Grant it seems that he moved forward in a different way.</p>
<p><strong>Some Controversy</strong></p>
<p>Stephen L. Richards who was an Apostle during this time gave a sermon, which was apparently not printed in the conference report <img class="alignright" src="http://www.ldsces.org/inst_manuals/chft/images/a12-51.gif" alt="" width="182" height="241" />because it angered President Grant.  It has been subsequently printed by <a href="https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/pdf/015-43-46.pdf">Sunstone</a>.  The sermon suggested that there was fanaticism in the way Church leaders had approached the issue of the Word of Wisdom, and other behaviours.  The date Sunstone give for the delivery of this sermon is the 9<sup>th</sup> April 1932.  Although there was not a General Conference session on that day, Stan Larson (<a href="http://www.signaturebooks.com/excerpts/truth.htm">source</a> &#8211; fn 79) in a footnote in his work on B.H. Roberts makes reference to a Salt Lake Tribune article and First Presidency meeting that discussed Richards’ talk on the 9<sup>th</sup> and the day after.  Sunstone claim they got their transcript from the Church archives.  So there is some confusion in my mind at least about where this comes from.  However, according to Michael Quinn [7], on May 5<sup>th</sup> 1932, Stephen L. Richards told the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve that he will resign as apostle rather than apologize for his general conference talk which argued that the Church is putting too much emphasis on the Word of Wisdom. However on the 26<sup>th</sup> May he later recanted and apologised for his <a href="http://www.i4m.com/think/history/mormon_history.htm">remarks</a>.  What this suggests to me is that this move may have been as much a personal drive from President Grant as from a revelation.  Moreover, it certainly was not wholly accepted at face value by all of the twelve.</p>
<p>Notes</p>
<p>1. Robert J. McCue, <em>Did the Word of Wisdom become a Commandment in 1851?</em> in Dialogue, no. 3 [Salt Lake City, UT.: Dialogue Foundation, 1981], p. 66-77.</p>
<p>2. Thomas G. Alexander, <em>The Word of Wisdom: From Principle to Requirement </em>in Dialogue, no. 3 [Salt Lake City, UT.: Dialogue Foundation, 1981], pp. 79</p>
<p>3. James B. Allen and Glen M. Leonard, <em>The Story of the Latter-day Saints,</em> 2nd ed., rev. and enl. [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1992], 525 &#8211; 526.</p>
<p>4. Truman G. Madsen, <em>The Presidents of the Church</em>, [Salt Lake City, UT. Deseret Book, 2004).</p>
<p>5. President Heber J. Grant, <em>Answering Tobacco&#8217;s Challenge</em> in Improvement Era, 1931, (Vol. Xxxiv. June, 1931. No. 8.)</p>
<p>6. Joseph Lyons, <em>Encyclopedia of Mormonism, </em>1-4 vols., edited by Daniel H. Ludlow (New York: Macmillan, 1992), 1584.</p>
<p>7. D. Michael Quinn, <em>The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power</em> [Salt Lake City, UT.: Signature Books, 1997).</p>
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		<title>In the Shadow of the Temple by Guest</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A close friend of mine who wishes to remain anonymous recently saw in the shadow of the temple his story follows In October, I was fortunate to attend the Portland, Oregon, screening of the movie, In the Shadow of the Temple. http://www.intheshadowofthetemple.com The screening was hosted by the producers, Karen Di Millia and Dennis Lavery. Prior to the screening Dennis and Karen spoke for 10 minutes and explained how they started this project. After the screening they took questions and answers for roughly 30 minutes. Lavery and DeMillia, who are not&#8211;and never have been&#8211;LDS, originally planned to make a movie about people who had left the religion of their youth. They attended a meeting of the Portland Humanist Society, explained their project, and asked if anyone had such stories they would be willing to share. In the course of discussing the project with members of the society, they were told that who they really needed to talk to was Sue Emmett, who had left the LDS church. After talking with Sue and others with whom she put them in touch, they decided to re-focus their project on the experience of those who have left the LDS church. They did hundreds [...]]]></description>
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<p>A close friend of mine who wishes to remain anonymous recently saw in the shadow of the temple his story follows</p>
<p>In October, I was fortunate to attend the Portland, Oregon, screening of the movie, In the Shadow of the Temple. <a href="http://www.intheshadowofthetemple.com/">http://www.intheshadowofthetemple.com </a>The screening was hosted by the producers, Karen Di Millia and Dennis Lavery. Prior to the screening Dennis and Karen spoke for 10 minutes and explained how they started this project. After the screening they took questions and answers for roughly 30 minutes.</p>
<p>Lavery and DeMillia, who are not&#8211;and never have been&#8211;LDS, originally planned to make a movie about people who had left the religion of their youth. They attended a meeting of the Portland Humanist Society, explained their project, and asked if anyone had such stories they would be willing to share. In the course of discussing the project with members of the society, they were told that who they really needed to talk to was Sue Emmett, who had left the LDS church. After talking with Sue and others with whom she put them in touch, they decided to re-focus their project on the experience of those who have left the LDS church.<span id="more-8674"></span></p>
<p>They did hundreds of hours of interviews over two years and edited it down to a 55 minute film. The film is very moving&#8211;a tribute to those who shared their stories as well as DeMillia and Lavery&#8217;s videography and editing skills.</p>
<p>About two dozen people appear in interviews in the film. Each story is unique, but a common thread runs throughout them all. All faced a similar rejection by family, friends and community.  Some of those interviewed have left the church. Others no longer believe, but remain active because of family or community pressure. The latter are filmed in shadows, to obscure their identity. The film refers to these people as “Shadow Mormons.” They define &#8220;Shadow Mormons&#8221; as those who privately do not accept the exacting doctrine of the Church, but publicly profess to be true believers. They are in shadow to protect their relationships with family, friends and employers.</p>
<p>Someone commented to me after the film, “That&#8217;s you. You&#8217;re a Shadow Mormon.”</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m a Shadow Mormon. Maybe that&#8217;s why this film hit me so hard. I haven&#8217;t believed in over 20 years – most of my adult life. Yet, during that time I&#8217;ve paid my tithing, gone to the temple, served in bishoprics and high councils and done all the things that were expected of me. Why? Because I am tied to the church by family and community.</p>
<p>The story of &#8220;Grace&#8221; (not her real name) resonated with me because it was so similar to mine. Her pain, and anger, were born of all the energy she has given to a religion that she doesn&#8217;t believe in. Finding out that the Church was not true was like a death experience for her. Like me, she tried following the Church&#8217;s teachings to fast, pray, read the scriptures and yet never felt she received the &#8220;burning in her bosom&#8221; that is promised in the scriptures.</p>
<p>What of the families and communities of these people? What are their stories, their experiences with loved ones who go through a process of losing belief and leaving the church. Only one person who was a family or friend agreed to be interviewed for the film. The believing husband that was interviewed told how he still loved his wife, even though she has left the church. What about the others? Are they embarrassed to say that the Church was more important than their relationship with the person who left?</p>
<p>The saddest stories, to me, were of divorce caused by one spouse believing and the other not believing. Michelle (another woman interviewed in the film) said her heart was broken that her husband would choose the Church over her. He told their marriage therapist that if she had not been Mormon he never would have married her. &#8220;There was more to me than being a Mormon,&#8221; she said.  &#8220;And I thought that there was more to him.&#8221;</p>
<p>The dictionary defines empathy as “the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.” We could all use a little more empathy for those around us. I have had several people tell me, “I can&#8217;t imagine how a person could leave the church.” Either they need a better imagination or they need more empathy.  Maybe they just need to see this film.</p>
<p>One of the questions at the screening&#8211;one that Lavery could not answer&#8211;was, “How do we get the right people to see this film?” Sadly, many members of the church would not even consider it. (It screened in Salt Lake City in October and got almost no media coverage.) The film does not try to de-convert anyone or disparage the doctrine of the church. It doesn&#8217;t assert that someone is right because he or she believes, or that someone else is right because he or she leaves the church. This film is about accepting people regardless of what they believe, and about how we treat those who believe differently than we do. I wish every member of the church could see this film.</p>
<p>Film Trailer: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICbylWK-i2Q&amp;NR=1">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICbylWK-i2Q&amp;NR=1</a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICbylWK-i2Q&amp;NR=1"></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A temple wedding petition to is being circulated to promote love and happiness in the family by changing the church&#8217;s stance on civil marriages preceding temple weddings. The petition requests that the leadership of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints make it acceptable to have a civil marriage ceremony first, if desired, and then giving the couple the necessary time to attend the temple for the sealing ordinance as they do in those countries whose laws require it.  (The petition is not endorsed by Mormon Matters; this information is being shared for discussion as a news item). In the following video which lasts about 2 minutes, Jean talks about the stigma some members may feel if they choose a civil wedding ceremony. The other preseding videos last approximately 2 minutes each. Temple Wedding Petition 3 Here Temple Wedding Petition 1 Here Temple Wedding Petition 2 Here Temple Wedding Petition .org here The actual petition is found here I was raised in a part member family and remember when my brother was married my parents were disappointed that they weren&#8217;t able to go to the temple and see their son get married. It would have been nice for our family [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-8498" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Petition-274x300.jpg" alt="Petition" width="274" height="300" />A temple wedding petition to is being circulated to promote love and happiness in the family by changing the church&#8217;s stance on civil marriages preceding temple weddings. The petition requests that the leadership of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints make it acceptable to have a civil marriage ceremony first, if desired, and then giving the couple the necessary time to attend the temple for the sealing ordinance as they do in those countries whose laws require it.  (The petition is not endorsed by Mormon Matters; this information is being shared for discussion as a news item).</p>
<p>In the following video which lasts about 2 minutes, Jean talks about the stigma some members may feel if they choose a civil wedding ceremony. The other preseding videos last approximately 2 minutes each.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PdS1u8LeJU&amp;NR=1">Temple Wedding Petition 3 Here</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwEpA-lFsX8&amp;NR=1"><span id="more-8492"></span>Temple Wedding Petition 1 Here</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf3JPeT69Lg&amp;NR=1">Temple Wedding Petition 2 Here</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.templeweddingpetition.org/">Temple Wedding Petition .org here</a></p>
<p>The actual petition is found <a href="http://www.templeweddingpetition.org/enter/4952.html">here</a></p>
<p>I was raised in a part member family and remember when my brother was married my parents were disappointed that they weren&#8217;t able to go to the temple and see their son get married. It would have been nice for our family to have seen it. I wonder if it makes non- members, or those on the fringe, feel excluded from the church and may damper future missionary work with families. I live in England and it&#8217;s the law that there is a civil wedding which usually takes place in the chapel.</p>
<p>Recently a nephew was married and was schedueled to get married in the Salt Lake temple. Because much of the family couldn&#8217;t witness the wedding they decided last minute to have a civil wedding. He and his wife since their marriage enjoy going to the temple but have to wait a year now to be married in the temple.</p>
<p>I wonder if there is a church loophol if you want your non- member family to see your wedding you could get married in America and fly to a country where the church allows civil marriages followed by a temple marriage after?</p>
<p>What are your thoughts and experiences?</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Just to make it very clear that there is no advocacy on the part of MM</strong></span>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PdS1u8LeJU&amp;NR=1"></a></p>
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