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		<title>Mental Illness and Suicide</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My sister recommended that I should listen to John L Lund&#8217;s three-talk set called How to Hug a Teenage Porcupine.  This isn&#8217;t the normal type of talk that I listen to because these talks often seem simplistic and syrupy.  While there was plenty of syrup, I thought Brother Lund had some interesting insights that I wanted to share, and I think his advice for dealing with toxic relatives was outstanding.  I wanted to share a few of his insights.  In discussing teenagers, he touched on the topic of suicide (relating it to how teens can make bad choices.) In one of my previous posts, a few commenters seemed to try to condemn a mentally ill man for killing a bishop, but I think we should not be so quick to judge.  In discussing suicide, Lund says that General Authorities have often counseled people that we should not judge the mentally ill. I have attended several funerals in my lifetime because I’ve worked primarily with the young people of the church where some of them have committed suicide.  On several of those occasions a General Authority has been there to speak.  I was interested as I listened to the funeral sermon [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sister recommended that I should listen to John L Lund&#8217;s three-talk set called <a href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2857112.How_to_Hug_a_Teenage_Porcupine">How to Hug a Teenage Porcupine</a>.  This isn&#8217;t the normal type of talk that I listen to because these talks often seem simplistic and syrupy.  While there was plenty of syrup, I thought Brother Lund had some interesting insights that I wanted to share, and I think his advice for dealing with toxic relatives was outstanding.  I wanted to share a few of his insights.  In discussing teenagers, he touched on the topic of suicide (relating it to how teens can make bad choices.)</p>
<p><span id="more-12676"></span>In one of my previous posts, <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/08/31/mormon-bishop-killed-at-church/#comments">a few commenters</a> seemed to try to condemn a mentally ill man for killing a bishop, but I think we should not be so quick to judge.  In discussing suicide, Lund says that General Authorities have often counseled people that we should not judge the mentally ill.</p>
<blockquote><p>I have attended several funerals in my lifetime because I’ve worked primarily with the young people of the church where some of them have committed suicide.  On several of those occasions a General Authority has been there to speak.  I was interested as I listened to the funeral sermon how similar their counsel was in every case, because in every case there was a suicide they said, ‘don’t judge the soul’ and do not assume that they will be in the Telestial Kingdom even though they have taken their life.  You have no right to make that judgment.  Only God can make that judgment.’  I’m paraphrasing several actual talks.  We don’t have the right to make that judgment and we don’t know.  We don’t know the state of mind or the spiritual condition or the things that brought that about and only God can make that judgment.</p></blockquote>
<p>I am uncomfortable in dealing with the mentally ill.  I previously blogged about <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/02/21/home-teaching-the-mentally-ill/">a man I home teach</a> with some serious mental illness.  While he is friendly with me and seems to be taking his medications, recently he took medication with beer, and ended up in the hospital.  He does seem to share some similarities to the <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/08/31/mormon-bishop-killed-at-church/">man who killed the bishop</a> in California.  Maybe I&#8217;m just paranoid, but he makes me nervous even though we get along well.</p>
<p>What can we do to help the mentally ill effectively?  How can we deal with them effectively without harshly judging them?</p>
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		<title>Mormon Bishop Killed at Church</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There was very sad news from Visalia, California on Sunday.  A mentally ill man named Kenneth Ward walked into a church looking for a leader.  Members pointed him to a Bishop Clay Sannar, father of 6.  Ward shot Bishop Sanner, and then fled.  A few minutes later, he called police, confessing to the crime.  As police arrived, he opened fire.  Police killed the assailant.  It is a truly senseless act.  More details can be found at the KSL website. Please pray for his family.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was very sad news from Visalia, California on Sunday.  A mentally ill man named Kenneth Ward walked into a church looking for a leader.  Members pointed him to a Bishop Clay Sannar, father of 6.  Ward shot Bishop Sanner, and then fled.  A few minutes later, he called police, confessing to the crime.  As police arrived, he opened fire.  Police killed the assailant.  It is a truly senseless act.  More details can be found at the <a href="http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&amp;sid=12213011">KSL website</a>.</p>
<p>Please pray for his family.</p>
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		<title>If They Tarry&#8230;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[D&#38;C 137 records a vision of Joseph Smith “in the temple at Kirtland, Ohio, January 21, 1836. HC 2: 380–381. The occasion was the administration of the ordinances of the endowment as far as they had then been revealed.” [Preface].  There are 2 important pieces of Mormon doctrine to consider here:  (1) baptism for the dead, and (2) children that die before the age of accountability (and baptism at age 8 ) will inherit the Celestial Kingdom.  Since it is a short section, let me quote it entirely.  This section is only in the LDS version of the D&#38;C, but other accounts of this revelation can be found in the History of the Church. 1 THE heavens were opened upon us, and I beheld the celestial kingdom of God, and the glory thereof, whether in the body or out I cannot tell. 2 I saw the transcendent beauty of the gate through which the heirs of that kingdom will enter, which was like unto circling flames of fire; 3 Also the blazing throne of God, whereon was seated the Father and the Son. 4 I saw the beautiful streets of that kingdom, which had the appearance of being paved with gold. 5 [...]]]></description>
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<p>D&amp;C 137 records a vision of Joseph Smith “in the temple at Kirtland, Ohio, January 21, 1836. HC 2: 380–381. The occasion was the administration of the ordinances of the endowment as far as they had then been revealed.” [Preface].  There are 2 important pieces of Mormon doctrine to consider here:  (1) baptism for the dead, and (2) children that die before the age of accountability (and baptism at age 8 ) will inherit the Celestial Kingdom.  Since it is a short section, let me quote it entirely.  This section is only in the LDS version of the D&amp;C, but other accounts of this revelation can be found in the History of the Church.<img title="More..." src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" /><span id="more-12537"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>1 THE heavens were opened upon us, and I beheld the celestial kingdom of God, and the glory thereof, whether in the body or out I cannot tell.</p>
<p>2 I saw the transcendent beauty of the gate through which the heirs of that kingdom will enter, which was like unto circling flames of fire;</p>
<p>3 Also the blazing throne of God, whereon was seated the Father and the Son.</p>
<p>4 I saw the beautiful streets of that kingdom, which had the appearance of being paved with gold.</p>
<p>5 I saw Father Adam and Abraham; and my father and my mother; my brother Alvin, that has long since slept;</p>
<p>6 And marveled how it was that he had obtained an inheritance in that kingdom, seeing that he had departed this life before the Lord had set his hand to gather Israel the second time, and had not been baptized for the remission of sins.</p>
<p>7 Thus came the voice of the Lord unto me, saying: All who have died without a knowledge of this gospel, who would have received it if they had been permitted to tarry, shall be heirs of the celestial kingdom of God;</p>
<p>8 Also all that shall die henceforth without a knowledge of it, who would have received it with all their hearts, shall be heirs of that kingdom;</p>
<p>9 For I, the Lord, will judge all men according to their works, according to the desire of their hearts.</p>
<p>10 And I also beheld that all children who die before they arrive at the years of accountability are saved in the celestial kingdom of heaven.</p></blockquote>
<p>Since God is the ultimate judge, and “who would have received it if they had been permitted to tarry, shall be heirs of the celestial kingdom of God “, the LDS baptize all and let God be the judge.  (I previously discussed <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/03/04/baptism-for-the-dead-so-what/">baptism for the dead from a non-LDS Irish writer</a>.)</p>
<p>So, this phrase “if they had been permitted to tarry”, got me thinking.  Following my mission, another guy about my age returned home.  I believe he got home on a Thursday and was slated to give his homecoming address on Sunday.  (I’ll call him Ted.)  He went out with some friends on Friday or Saturday night, and was involved in a serious car accident.  Sitting in the back seat, his car was t-boned at an intersection.  The woman sitting next to him was killed, and he received some fairly serious injuries, resulting in a delay of his homecoming address for about a month (which he gave standing on crutches.)</p>
<p>While it is probably a bit morbid to think about, a few people speculated that if he had been killed the day after his mission ended, he was probably very righteous and would have gone straight to the Celestial Kingdom.  After all, he was probably living more righteously at that point in his life than at any other time.</p>
<p>Ted went on to college on the east coast (I stayed in the west), he majored in art, I majored in math, and our paths really never crossed much.  I ran into his parents a few times, and they told me about his art exhibits, but neither one of us really made much of an effort to maintain contact.  Enter Facebook.  I noticed that he was friends with some of my friends, so I thought I would “friend” him and see what he was up to.  To my surprise, he had posted his letter of resignation from the LDS church.  There were many messages congratulating him for his courageous decision.</p>
<p>So, it got me thinking, what happens to those that perhaps died on a mission or similar circumstance, but “if they had been permitted to tarry”, they might have become wicked.  (I’m not saying Ted is wicked—I’m not the judge, but just saying, “what if”?)  Can we really be so certain of anyone’s final judgment?</p>
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		<title>The Moral Panic Causes Trouble in Zion</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kenny Ballantine is in the process of producing a documentary called Trouble in Zion.  The documentary discusses the events leading up to the 1838 Mormon War in Missouri.  It highlights the Extermination Order and Haun&#8217;s Mill Massacre, as well as events leading up to these terrible events.  Kenny showed a pre-release version of the film at the Mormon History Association in Independence, Missouri in May, and he is also showing the film at Sunstone here in Salt Lake City in August.  I really enjoyed the film, and highly recommend it.  I thought Kenny was pretty even-handed, and had experts discuss reactions by both Mormons and non-Mormons which escalated the violence. Following the presentation at the MHA Conference, Ballentine explained that he didn&#8217;t want his documentary to look like a Ken Burns documentary.  A fan of comic books, Kenny found a comic book illustrator to show scenes depicting the conflict.  It took me a while to get used to the comic book art, but it is starting to grow on me.  Kenny was kind enough to give me an advanced copy, and I would like to offer some of my impressions about the film and the conflict.  I hope he stops by to [...]]]></description>
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<p>Kenny Ballantine is in the process of producing a documentary called <a href="http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Trouble-in-Zion/244083709320?ref=ts" target="_blank">Trouble in Zion</a>.  The documentary discusses the events leading up to the 1838 Mormon War in Missouri.  It highlights the Extermination Order and Haun&#8217;s Mill Massacre, as well as events leading up to these terrible events.  Kenny showed a pre-release version of the film at the Mormon History Association in Independence, Missouri in May, and he is also showing the film at <a href="https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/blog/" target="_blank">Sunstone here in Salt Lake City in August</a>.  I really enjoyed the film, and highly recommend it.  I thought Kenny was pretty even-handed, and had experts discuss reactions by both Mormons and non-Mormons which escalated the violence.</p>
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<p><img title="More..." src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" />Following the presentation at the MHA Conference, Ballentine explained that he didn&#8217;t want his documentary to look like a Ken Burns documentary.  A fan of comic books, Kenny found a comic book illustrator to show scenes depicting the conflict.  It took me a while to get used to the comic book art, but it is starting to grow on me.  Kenny was kind enough to give me an advanced copy, and I would like to offer some of my impressions about the film and the conflict.  I hope he stops by to answer questions too!</p>
<p>I was really impressed with the lineup of experts Kenny interviewed.  The most famous people include Richard Bushman, LDS assistant historian Richard Turley, CoC Apostle Andrew Bolton, Washington State University Religion and Sociology professor Armand Mauss, and BYU Church History professor Alex Baugh, among an impressive list of guests.  He outlined a series of events leading up to the Hauns Mill Massacre and the Extermination Order.  Here are some of the key events:</p>
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<li>July 20, 1833.  Bishop Partridge is told to leave Jackson County immediately.  He refuses and is tarred and feathered.  Three days later, he signs an agreement to leave the county.  Ballentine doesn&#8217;t really address the reasons why the Missourians were upset at the Mormons, though he does mention that the first Missourians wanted slavery to be legal, while the Mormons from the North were generally against slavery.  WW Phelps published an article in the Evening and Morning Star that Mormons wanted to welcome people of all color.  This is the reason the Missourians were upset, which is why they attacked Bishop Partridge, and destroyed the Mormon printing press.  (Joseph was living in Kirtland at this time.)</li>
<li>July 4, 1838.  Rigdon issued another fiery patriotic sermon (following his &#8220;Salt Sermon&#8221;) stating that the Mormons and Missourians would wage a “war of extermination…one party or the other”.  It seems the subsequent Extermination Order by Governor Boggs wasn&#8217;t quite what Rigdon had in mind.</li>
<li>Aug 6, 1838 – Mormons in Daviess County were prevented from voting.  The Whig candidate said Mormons were only supposed to live in Caldwell County and should be ineligible to vote.  He was concerned that Mormons would vote for the Democratic Candidate, because Mormons were overwhelming Democrats back then.  A big brawl broke out that has often been called a “battle”.  There were exaggerated rumors that Mormons were killed.</li>
<li>Aug 19, 1838 &#8211; Mormons were expelled from DeWitt, in Daviess County.  Following the election, Missourians decided to expel Mormons.</li>
<li>Oct 18, 1838 &#8211; The Mormons decide to retaliate.  Known as the Daviess Expedition, a group of Danites (a secret Mormon militia group) led an effort to expel Missourians from Gallatin, Millport and Grindstone Fork.   Mormons plundered the property and burned the stores and houses to the ground.</li>
<li>Oct 24, 1838 &#8211; The Battle of Crooked River.  Mormons attack and scatter the Missouri Militia.  Many of the Missouri Militia erroneously believe all others are killed.  Only 1 Missourian was killed, but LDS Apostle David Patten (known as &#8220;Captain FearNot&#8221;), Danite leader Gideon Carter were both killed; 9 other Mormons were wounded.</li>
<li>Oct 27, 1838 &#8211; Governor Lilburn Boggs issues the Extermination Order; &#8220;the Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the State if necessary for the public peace&#8230;&#8221;</li>
<li>October 30, 1838 &#8211; The Hauns Mill Massacre; 18 Mormons are killed, ranging in age from 10-year old Sardius Smith, to 62 year old Thomas McBride.  I would like to quote directly from the film.</li>
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<blockquote><p>“On October 30, 1838, a large group of armed Missourians marched on the small and peaceful Mormon settlement known as Haun’s Mill, primarily in retribution for the Mormon gutting of Daviess County.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Amanda [Barnes Smith]’s two little boys, Sardius and Alma had followed their father into the blacksmith shop.  The men had hoped to use the shop like a fortress in the event of an attack.  Instead, it quickly proved to be a death trap.  Seeing no other alternative, the men made a desperate dash for the woods, nearly all of them being gunned down in the process.  Many of the attackers looted, humiliated, and brutalized the wounded and dying.  The oldest victim was 62 year old Thomas McBride who after surrendering his weapon was hacked to death with a corn knife.  And the youngest was 10 year old Sardius Smith.  An enraged Missourian leveled his gun against the small boy’s head, and after proclaiming that ‘nits become lice” pulled the trigger.</p>
<p>Amanda found her husband and 10 year old son Sardius dead, and her 6 year old son’s hip was “all shot to pieces.”Apostle Andrew Bolton of the Community of Christ said,</p>
<p>“Hauns Mill was a tragedy:  17 boys and men are killed and another one dies later from his wounds.  Hauns Mill was a peaceful settlement of Mormons: 15 miles from the main group in Far West, but therefore isolated and vulnerable in the sectarian war that was erupting around them.  Two days before the massacre they reiterated their commitment to live in peace with their neighbors.  This was a genuine, authentic group that didn’t want any part of the violence and suffered horrible tragedy.  The lesson from Haun’s Mill is the innocent get hurt whenever there is human violence.  It spills over, and there is tragedy.</p></blockquote>
<p>So how does such a tragedy happen?  Why do neighbors turn so quickly on each other?  In my previous post, <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2010/06/27/a-horrific-tale-of-forgiveness/">I discussed the Rwandan Genocide</a>.  Armand Mauss describes the &#8220;Moral Panic&#8221; in Ballentine&#8217;s film.  He is professor emeritus of Sociology and Religious Studies at <a title="Washington State University" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_State_University">Washington State University</a>.  He retired in 1999, but continues to be active on Mormon studies.  He is probably most famous for his book <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=wTBUCGwdG8MC&amp;lpg=PP1&amp;pg=PP1#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false">The Angel and the Beehive</a>.  The Moral Panic explains how groups turn so quickly violent.</p>
<blockquote><p>When a society is gripped by a moral panic, that society is apt to respond as though their facing matters of life and death.  That leads to violence that is considered justifiable in almost any extreme, because of what we see is at stake.  It makes it possible for people who yesterday felt very friendly toward another people, suddenly see those people not only as enemies, but as less than human.”</p>
<p>…</p>
<p>All of the restraints that people normally feel about the way human beings should treat human beings, those restraints gradually melt away, and people who are perfectly nice, decent people, find themselves doing things that they would have never thought that they could do….Under other circumstances a group of Mormons and a group of Missourians might have gone to dinner together and had a good time, but under these circumstances, they faced the Moral Panic.”</p></blockquote>
<p>It is truly astonishing how quickly neighbor can turn against neighbor.  It is truly a tragedy when cooler heads do not prevail.</p>
<p>As I said before, I really enjoyed Ballentine&#8217;s film.  There is much more to the film than I have presented here.  If you get a chance to see this film at Sunstone, I encourage you to see it.  I know Ballentine is still trying to obtain financing to finish the film.  While it is not yet complete, I think it is an excellent film at this point.  If you would like a preview, click here to <a title="Trouble in Zion" href="http://www.dreamertribe.com/DTP/Trouble_in_Zion.html" target="_blank">watch some clips</a> from the official website.  I&#8217;ve invited Kenny to stop by, and I am sure he would welcome questions and comments.</p>
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		<title>Songs That Touch Our Hearts</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since yesterday was Pioneer Day, I thought I&#8217;d share my thoughts on one of my favorite Pioneer Hymns.  Most of you are probably familiar with Come, Come Ye Saints.  It was one of my sister&#8217;s favorite songs, and she requested that it be played at her funeral.  While I always liked the song, I can rarely sing it without getting a bit emotional as I think of my sister. She was the oldest in my family.  My father was a convert, and always referred to her as &#8220;the pioneer&#8221; of the family.  Perhaps that is why she liked the song so much.  The last verse is the one that always causes me to think about my sister. And should we die before our journey&#8217;s through, Happy day! All is well! We then are free from toil and sorrow, too; With the just we shall dwell! But if our lives are spared again to see the Saints their rest obtain, Oh, how we&#8217;ll make this chorus swell- All is well! All is well! My sister died from a brain tumor.  She struggled through radiation and chemotherapy for nearly 2 years before succumbing.  I often feel like she died before her journey was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since yesterday was Pioneer Day, I thought I&#8217;d share my thoughts on one of my favorite Pioneer Hymns.  Most of you are probably familiar with<em> Come, Come Ye Saints</em>.  It was one of my sister&#8217;s favorite songs, and she requested that it be played at her funeral.  While I always liked the song, I can rarely sing it without getting a bit emotional as I think of my sister.</p>
<p><span id="more-12215"></span>She was the oldest in my family.  My father was a convert, and always referred to her as &#8220;the pioneer&#8221; of the family.  Perhaps that is why she liked the song so much.  The last verse is the one that always causes me to think about my sister.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>And should we die before our journey&#8217;s through,<br />
Happy day! All is well!<br />
We then are free from toil and sorrow, too;<br />
With the just we shall dwell!<br />
But if our lives are spared again to see the Saints their rest obtain,<br />
Oh, how we&#8217;ll make this chorus swell-<br />
All is well! All is well!</em></p></blockquote>
<p>My sister died from a brain tumor.  She struggled through radiation and chemotherapy for nearly 2 years before succumbing.  I often feel like she died before her journey was through, but I am glad she is free from toil and sorrow too.  I often wish her life was spared again, but it wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>She left behind 4 small children under the age of 10.  Three of them are in college now, and the other is a senior in high school.  They have coped very well, and are excellent people.</p>
<p>My brother died 4 years ago in a tragic auto accident.  He was about the same age as my sister when she died (36).  He also left behind 4 small children under the age of 7.  At the funeral, the closing song was &#8220;God Be With You Till We Meet Again.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can remember singing this song at the end of meetings, and thinking it was a nice song to end the meeting.  I planned on meeting everyone the next week at church again.  But when it was played at the funeral, it took on a whole new meaning.  I usually can&#8217;t sing the song anymore, but I love to listen to it.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>God be with you till we meet again;<br />
By His counsels guide, uphold you,<br />
With His sheep securely fold you;<br />
God be with you till we meet again.</em></p>
<p><em>Refrain</em></p>
<p><em>Till we meet, till we meet,<br />
Till we meet at Jesus’ feet;<br />
Till we meet, till we meet,<br />
God be with you till we meet again.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see my brother again.  So, what are some songs that touch your heart?</p>
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		<title>A Horrific Tale of Forgiveness</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really miss my book club, but I am participating in the Stay LDS Book Club.  The first book that we have decided to read is Left to Tell by Immaculee Ilibagiza.  It is her story of the Rwandan Genocide.  I previously discussed the movie Hotel Rwanda, describing the events from Paul Russebagina&#8217;s point of view.  Immaculee has an incredibly inspiring story as well.  The book is intensely moving. Growing up, Immaculee had no idea if she was a Hutu or a Tutsi.  Her parents had endured previous political unrest, and wanted to raise their children as if their tribe did not matter.  (It turns out she was a minority Tutsi.)  In 1994, this awful episode began, and she hid with 7 other women in a small bathroom.  She lost half her body weight, and spent literally 3 months praying.  (She is a Roman Catholic.)  The subtitle of the book is &#8220;Discovering God Amidst the Rwandan Holocaust&#8221;. She describes her attempt to forgive, even amidst this awful tragedy.  She describes a spiritual experience she had, while essentially witnessing a murder.  I don&#8217;t emotionally understand the experience, but I can slightly grasp it intellectually.  She describes hearing the murder of a Tutsi mother, and [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/LeftToTell.jpg"><img class="alignleft" title="Left To Tell" src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/LeftToTell.jpg" alt="" width="107" height="160" /></a>I really miss my book club, but I am participating in the <a href="http://staylds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&amp;t=1560" target="_blank">Stay LDS Book Club</a>.  The first book that we have decided to read is <a href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/408615.Left_to_Tell_Discovering_God_Amidst_the_Rwandan_Holocaust" target="_blank">Left to Tell</a> by Immaculee Ilibagiza.  It is her story of the Rwandan Genocide.  I previously discussed the movie <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/04/28/movies-that-impacted-you/">Hotel Rwanda</a>, describing the events from Paul Russebagina&#8217;s point of view.  Immaculee has an incredibly inspiring story as well.  The book is intensely moving.</p>
<p><img title="More..." src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" /><span id="more-11839"></span>Growing up, Immaculee had no idea if she was a Hutu or a Tutsi.  Her parents had endured previous political unrest, and wanted to raise their children as if their tribe did not matter.  (It turns out she was a minority Tutsi.)  In 1994, this awful episode began, and she hid with 7 other women in a small bathroom.  She lost half her body weight, and spent literally 3 months praying.  (She is a Roman Catholic.)  The subtitle of the book is &#8220;Discovering God Amidst the Rwandan Holocaust&#8221;.</p>
<p>She describes her attempt to forgive, even amidst this awful tragedy.  She describes a spiritual experience she had, while essentially witnessing a murder.  I don&#8217;t emotionally understand the experience, but I can slightly grasp it intellectually.  She describes hearing the murder of a Tutsi mother, and her child left to die:</p>
<p>page 93-94,</p>
<blockquote><p>One night I heard screaming not far from the house, and then a baby crying.  The killers must have slain the mother and left her infant to die in the road.  The child wailed all night; by morning, its cries were feeble and sporadic, and by nightfall, it was silent.  I heard dogs snarling nearby and shivered as I thought about how that baby&#8217;s life had ended.  I prayed for God to receive the child&#8217;s innocent soul, and then I asked Him, How can I forgive people who would do such a thing to an infant?</p>
<p>I heard His answer as clearly as if we&#8217;d been sitting in the same room chatting: You are <span style="text-decoration: underline;">all </span>my children&#8230;and the baby is with Me now.</p>
<p>It was such a simple sentence, but it was the answer to the prayers I&#8217;d been lost in for days.</p>
<p>The killers were like children.  Yes, they were barbaric creatures who would have to be punished severely for their actions, but they were still children.  They were cruel, vicious, and dangerous, as kids sometimes can be, but nevertheless, they were children.  They saw, but didn&#8217;t understand the terrible harm they&#8217;d inflicted.  They&#8217;d blindly hurt others without thinking, they&#8217;d hurt their Tutsi brothers and sisters, they&#8217;d hurt God&#8211;and they didn&#8217;t understand how badly they were hurting themselves.  Their minds had been infected with the evil that had spread across the country, but their souls weren&#8217;t evil.  Despite their atrocities, they were children of God, and I could forgive a child, although it would not be easy&#8230;especially when that child was trying to kill me.</p>
<p>In God&#8217;s eyes, the killers were part of His family, deserving of love and forgiveness.  I knew that I couldn&#8217;t ask God to love me if I were unwilling to love His children.  At that moment, I prayed for the killers, for their sins to be forgiven.  I prayed that God would lead them to recognize the horrific error of their ways before their life on Earth ended&#8211;before they were called to acocunt for their mortal sins.</p>
<p>I held on to my father&#8217;s rosary and asked God to help me, and again I hear His voice: Forgive them, they know not what they do.</p>
<p>I took a crucial step toward forgiving the killers that day.  My anger was draining from me&#8211;I&#8217;d opened my heart to God, and He&#8217;d touched it with His infinite love.  For the first time, I pitied the killers.  I asked God to forgive their sins and turn their souls toward His beautiful light.</p>
<p>That night I prayed with a clear conscience and a clean haert.  For the first time since I entered the bathroom, I slept in peace.</p></blockquote>
<p>I still can&#8217;t fathom her capacity to forgive.  It is awe-inspiring to me.  After the war, she met the man (one of her neighbors), that killed her parents, stole their property, and burned her home to the ground.  Semana, the jailhouse guard allowed her to see him so she could spit on him if she wanted.  From page 204,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;He looted your parents&#8217; home and robbed your family&#8217;s plantation, Immaculee.  We found your dad&#8217;s farm machinery at his house, didn&#8217;t we?&#8221;  Semana yelled at Felicien.  &#8221;After he killed [your mother] Rose and [brother] Damascene, he kept looking for you&#8230;he wanted you dead so he could take over your property.  Didn&#8217;t you, pig?&#8221; Semana shouted again.</p>
<p>I flinched, letting out an involuntary gasp.  Semana looked at me, stunned by my reaction and confused by the tears streaming down my face.  He grabbed Felicien by the shirt collar and hauled him to his feet.  &#8221;What do you have to say to her?  What do you have to say to Immaculee?&#8221;</p>
<p>Felicien was sobbing.  I could feel his shame.  He looked up at me for only a moment, but our eyes met.  I reached out, touched his hands lightly, and quietly said what I&#8217;d come to say.</p>
<p>&#8220;I forgive you.&#8221;</p>
<p>My heart eased immediately, and I saw the tension release in Felicien&#8217;s shoulders before Semana pushed him out the door and into the courtyard.  Two soldiers yanked Felicien up by his armpits and dragged him back toward his cell.  When Semana returned, he was furious.</p>
<p>&#8220;What was that all about, Immaculee?&#8221;  that was the man who murdered your family.  I brought him to you to question&#8230;to spit on if you wanted to.  But you forgave him!  How could you do that?  Why did you forgive him?&#8221;</p>
<p>I answered him with all truth:  &#8221;Forgiveness is all I have to offer.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I never want to experience a tragedy so awful.  I truly admire Immaculee&#8217;s capacity to forgive; she is a tremendous example of a Christian.</p>
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		<title>If Easter Be Not True</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve learned a few things from teaching swimming lessons to tiny children for over 30 years. One of the most obvious is that some kids have a screeching fear of being put on their back.  No matter how much you try to reassure them, they don&#8217;t trust the water (or their teacher, or even their mom!) to hold them up.  You can demonstrate, you can show them other kids who can do it, you can bribe, coerce, cajole.  But it takes a while for these skeptical ones to learn to relax, lay their head back, get their ears wet, and FLOAT.  Belief in the resurrection of Christ may pose a similar challenge for some. What really happened on that first Easter morning around 2000 years ago?  There is the &#8220;swoon theory&#8221; advocated by those who assert that Christ did not really die upon the cross, that His supposed death was only a temporary swoon, and that His Resurrection was simply a return to consciousness. This was promoted by Paulus (&#8220;Exegetisches Handbuch&#8221;, 1842, II, p. 929) and in a modified form by Hase (&#8220;Gesch. Jesu&#8221;, n. 112).  Another theory is the &#8220;imposition theory urged by Celsus (Origen, Against Celsus II.56).  The [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/easter31.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-10288" title="easter3" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/easter31.jpg" alt="" width="110" height="110" /></a>I&#8217;ve learned a few things from teaching swimming lessons to tiny children for over 30 years. One of the most obvious is that some kids have a screeching fear of being put on their back.  No matter how much you try to reassure them, they don&#8217;t trust the water (or their teacher, or even their mom!) to hold them up.  You can demonstrate, you can show them other kids who can do it, you can bribe, coerce, cajole.  But it takes a while for these skeptical ones to learn to relax, lay their head back, get their ears wet, and FLOAT.  Belief in the resurrection of Christ may pose a similar challenge for some.<span id="more-10285"></span></p>
<p>What really happened on that first Easter morning around 2000 years ago?  There is the &#8220;swoon theory&#8221; advocated by those who assert that Christ did not  really die upon the cross, that His  supposed death was only a temporary swoon, and that His Resurrection was simply a return to consciousness.  This was promoted by Paulus (&#8220;Exegetisches Handbuch&#8221;, 1842, II, p. 929) and in a modified form by Hase (&#8220;Gesch. Jesu&#8221;, n. 112).  Another theory is the &#8220;imposition theory urged by Celsus (Origen, <em>Against Celsus</em> II.56).  The disciples, it is said, stole the body of Jesus from the grave, and then proclaimed to others that their Lord had risen.  This is a theory the Jews proposed as described in <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/28/12#12">Matthew 28:12</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;And when they were assembled  with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the  soldiers, Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept. And if this come to the governor’s ears, we will persuade him, and secure you. So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is  commonly reported among the Jews until this day.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>A third possibility, the &#8220;vision theory,&#8221; explains that enthusiasm, nervousness, and mental excitement  on the part of the disciples caused them to experience mass hallucinations; to see and believe things that weren&#8217;t really true.  But is it possible that the Biblical account can be trusted?  Can one who was raised in a modern, secular culture such as ours really lay his or her head back and float in the nebulous pool of faith?</p>
<p>Did five women, led by Mary Magdalene, set out for the tomb of Jesus early on a Sunday morning?  Intending to anoint his body with spices, did they instead find an open tomb with the stone rolled away?  After the women spread the news that someone had taken the body of their Lord, did John and Peter run to the tomb and enter, astounded?  Was there something supernatural about what they saw: the graveclothes lying on a ledge in  the tomb almost like an empty cocoon after the butterfly has emerged?  Not long after that, it is written, Jesus appeared to Mary.  Then to the women. Then to Peter. Then to the disciples on the road to  Emmaus. Then to the 11 disciples. A week later he appeared to Thomas who  believed in spite of his own doubts, crying out, “My Lord and my God!”</p>
<p>Quickly the word spread, “He’s alive!” This became the watchword  of the early church. The apostles ended up as martyrs for their faith in  the resurrection of Jesus Christ. After 2000 years do we dare to conclude without any evidence that Jesus died on Friday afternoon and that  he literally, physically, and bodily rose from the dead on Sunday  morning?</p>
<p>And even for those who do believe the Easter story to this point, a deeper struggle comes when we stand next to a sickbed, gazing at the  face of someone we love. The crisis may come at the senseless death of a child, a spouse, a brother.  Many of us wonder at that moment, “Is it  possible that I will see this person again?” The body is cold.  Death seems so final, faith so unsure.  The following poem was written by an unknown soldier who died during World War I. It  powerfully expresses what must follow if there is no resurrection from the dead:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">If death ends all, then evil must be good,<br />
Wrong must be right, and beauty ugliness.<br />
God is a Judas who betrays his Son,<br />
And with a kiss, damns all the world to hell—<br />
If Christ rose not again.</p>
<p>This is reminiscent of the poignant passage in <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/1_cor/15/19#19">1 Corinthians 15:17-19</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #993300;"><big>&#8220;And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.<br />
Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.<br />
If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.&#8221;</big></span></p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://theologyforum.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/ed-knippersthe-resurrection-of-christoil-on-wood20071.jpg"><img class="aligncenter" title="The Resurrection of Christ, oil on wood, by Edward Knippers" src="http://theologyforum.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/ed-knippersthe-resurrection-of-christoil-on-wood20071.jpg" alt="" width="403" height="277" /></a></p>
<p>To appease the pain these questions leave for modern man, existential theology demythologizes the miraculous elements of the gospel to reveal the &#8220;true&#8221; Christian message: the call to authentic existence in the face of death, symbolized by the cross.  As much as I believe the teachings of Christ are all about social justice, this leaves me flat.  If there is no resurrection, it doesn&#8217;t seem to make a difference.  To quote another poet (Henry H. Barstow),</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">What matter though we laugh or cry,<br />
Be good or evil, live or die,<br />
If Easter be not true.</p>
<p>Today I WANT Easter to be true.  I&#8217;m plunging my head back, holding my breath, willing myself to float.  I&#8217;ve got that same feeling in the pit of my stomach that my little swimmers do.  I don&#8217;t know for sure that Christ lives, that the water will hold me.  I&#8217;ve never seen him face to face, never touched his wounds. But on a day like today, I believe.  I&#8217;m looking at the sky, the mountains, the flowers, I&#8217;m feeling the early morning sunshine on my skin.  I&#8217;m letting the words of the scriptures work on me. I&#8217;m thinking of a Savior and the resurrection and I&#8217;m reciting &#8212; over and over &#8212; the words of that unknown soldier who died in World War I:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">If it be all for naught, for nothingness<br />
At last, why does God make the world so fair?<br />
Why spill this golden splendor out across<br />
The western hills, and light the silver lamp<br />
Of eve? Why give me eyes to see, and soul<br />
To love so strong and deep? Then, with a pang<br />
This brightness stabs me through, and wakes within<br />
Rebellious voice to cry against all death?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Why set this hunger for eternity<br />
To gnaw my heartstrings through, if death ends all?</p>
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		<title>Mormon Missionaries Die in Romania</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 05:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want to let everyone know of a very unfortunate situation in Romania.  According to this Deseret News article, Elder McKay Choy Burrows, 20, of Highland, Utah, and Elder Jace Edwards Davis, 20, of Logandale, Nevada, died from accidental natural gas asphyxiation due to a gas leak in their apartment sometime Friday night in Romania.  It&#8217;s terrible that such a seemingly preventable tragedy happened to these 2 young men.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/romaina-elders.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-9639" title="Romania-elders" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/romaina-elders-300x248.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="248" /></a>I want to let everyone know of a very unfortunate situation in Romania.  According to this <a href="http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700005957/2-LDS-missionaries-die-in-Romania.html">Deseret News article</a>, Elder McKay Choy Burrows, 20, of Highland, Utah, and Elder Jace Edwards Davis, 20, of Logandale, Nevada, died from accidental natural gas asphyxiation due to a gas leak in their apartment sometime Friday night in Romania.  It&#8217;s terrible that such a seemingly preventable tragedy happened to these 2 young men.</p>
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		<title>The NDE and its Interpretation</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve delayed publishing this essay for several months due to the fact that, the more I seem to learn about this subject, the more I know that I don&#8217;t know. I suppose it&#8217;s that way with anything. However, it&#8217;s a subject that I think is absolutely remarkable in its implications. You&#8217;ve seen them on talk shows, the radio, best-selling books, and now the Internet: people who claim to have had a near-death experience (NDE). We&#8217;ve known about NDEs for years now, and, though they were once seen as &#8220;fringe science,&#8221; due to sheer numbers of experiencers, psychologists, neurologists, and theologians have been forced to begrudgingly confront, explain, and study the NDE. My interest in the near-death experience began a few years ago as I, with great interest, poured over the subject of consciousness and alterations thereof. Consciousness in itself is an amazing mystery, and sometimes it seems that we&#8217;re no closer to explaining it now than we were when Descartes sat befuddled at his desk.  However, the mystery of the NDE struck me as even more interesting, as it seems to incorporate elements of philosophy, theology, and spirituality. What is an NDE? A near-death experience is generally characterized as a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve delayed publishing this essay for several months due to the fact that, the more I seem to learn about this subject, the more I know that I don&#8217;t know.  I suppose it&#8217;s that way with anything.  However, it&#8217;s a subject that I think is absolutely remarkable in its implications.  You&#8217;ve seen them on talk shows, the radio, best-selling books, and now the Internet: people who claim to have had a near-death experience (NDE).  We&#8217;ve known about NDEs for years now, and, though they were once seen as &#8220;fringe science,&#8221; due to sheer numbers of experiencers, psychologists, neurologists, and theologians have been forced to begrudgingly confront, explain, and study the NDE.</p>
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<p>My interest in the near-death experience began a few years ago as I, with great interest, poured over the subject of consciousness and alterations thereof.  Consciousness in itself is an amazing mystery, and sometimes it seems that we&#8217;re no closer to explaining it now than we were when Descartes sat befuddled at his desk.  However, the mystery of the NDE struck me as even more interesting, as it seems to incorporate elements of philosophy, theology, and spirituality.</p>
<p><strong><em>What is an NDE?</em></strong></p>
<p>A near-death experience is generally characterized as a striking alteration of consciousness associated with a subject being near death.  These experiences range from out-of-body experiences, or OBEs (the sensation of being out of one&#8217;s own body, often floating above one&#8217;s self), seeing a light at the end of a tunnel, seeing religious figures or family members, even to seeing future or past events in history.  Experiencers often receive meaningful information in the NDE, sometimes they see and hear things that seem inexplicable (such as veridical information about events happening simultaneously with their death) and the vast majority view their experience as positive.</p>
<p><strong><em>How prevalent are NDEs?</em></strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to pin down an exact estimate (NDE experiencers often don&#8217;t share their stories for many years, and reluctantly share them with researchers), but <a title="IANDS" href="http://www.iands.org/nde_index/ndes/key_facts_about_near-death_experiences_2.html">research</a> has suggested that 4-15% of Americans have had an NDE (anywhere from around 12 million to around 45 million people).  A large study in the Netherlands, interviewing those who had experienced cardiac arrest, found that 18% reported at least one common aspect of an NDE.</p>
<p><strong><em>What are some common characteristics of NDEs?</em></strong></p>
<p>Raymond Moody, the first psychologist to scientifically study the NDE, published his best-selling <em>Life After Life</em> in 1975.  He found that NDEs were curious in that many of them shared very <a title="IANDS" href="http://www.iands.org/nde_index/ndes/characteristics.html">common elements</a>:</p>
<li>hearing sounds such as buzzing</li>
<li>a feeling of peace and painlessness</li>
<li>having an out-of-body experience</li>
<li>a feeling of traveling through a tunnel</li>
<li>a feeling of rising into the heavens</li>
<li>seeing people, often dead relatives</li>
<li>meeting a spiritual being such as God</li>
<li>seeing a review of one&#8217;s life</li>
<li>feeling a reluctance to return to life</li>
<p>Later, researchers such as Kenneth Ring, Bruce Greyson, and George Ritchie expanded on Moody&#8217;s work in subsequent studies and books.  The scientific world was reluctant to accept the NDE, often based on the subjective nature of the experience, and its philosophical and metaphysical implications.  However, the field has grown considerably, and as the number of people who have experienced NDEs grows, science is finding it harder and harder to ignore.</p>
<p><strong><em>Is the NDE a biological or physical phenomenon?</em></strong></p>
<p>Well, this is where things get tricky.  Again, science has been reluctant to study the NDE.  When Moody wrote <em>Life After Life</em>, NDEs were filed strictly in the same cabinet as UFO abductions and Bigfoot sightings.  Feeling in the public is mixed, but it does seem that everyone knows someone who knows someone who has had an NDE.  And let&#8217;s not pick on the scientists too much:  it&#8217;s hard to make testable predictions based on subjective experience.  The mind has been known to do strange things under stress, and is also known to be notoriously unreliable in terms of understanding objective reality.  Human beings are known to hallucinate from time to time, we dream in unreal worlds every night, and when under the influence of certain chemicals we see things that don&#8217;t seem to be there for anyone else.  There are indeed materialistic interpretations of the NDE:</p>
<p>1. The NDE is like a dream, a fantasy created by the brain.  People see what an NDE is &#8220;supposed&#8221; to be like on television and during times of great stress, it retreats into this fantasy world.<br />
2. The NDE is caused by a release of a certain chemical in the brain.<br />
3. The NDE is caused by a lack of oxygen in the brain.<br />
4. The NDE is caused by the brain, from some unknown process.<br />
5. NDEs are fabrications from people who just want to make money.</p>
<p>This last option is a major concern, as there have been people in recent years who have capitalized on their NDE.  Notably, we may have heard of Betty Eadie, whose book <em>Embraced By The Light</em> was a #1 New York Times bestseller.  Certainly there are men and women who have made quite a bit of money by reporting NDEs!  However, even more overwhelming are those who do not make any money off their experience, and often find themselves ostracized, ridiculed, or dismissed for relating their experiences to their faith groups or family.</p>
<p>So are NDEs the result of something biological?  From the International Association for Near-Death Studies (emphasis added):</p>
<blockquote><p><em>In a scientific age, it is only natural that people want to understand the biological or psychological origins of experience, and a variety of neurological and chemical explanations have been proposed as the cause of NDEs: lack of oxygen, excess of carbon dioxide, seizure activity in the temporal lobe, the effect of drugs such as DMT or ketamine, hallucination, psychological avoidance of death, normal shutting down of brain activity, and a dozen or more other possibilities.</em></p>
<p><em><strong>No scientific explanation so far has satisfactorily accounted for all aspects of NDEs or their effects.</strong> For example, numerous patients who were being clinically monitored and were known to be well oxygenated have later reported having an NDE during that time; drugs are not a factor in all NDEs; the characteristics of sleep disorders and NDEs are not identical. Hallucinations are highly individual and produce confusion and hazy memories, exactly the opposite characteristics of near-death experiences, which tend to share characteristics and be remembered vividly for decades as being &#8220;realer than real.&#8221; For every medical cause that has been put forward, there are reasons the NDE researchers say, “Not quite right.”</em></p>
<p><em>Further, despite reports that scientists have been able to induce NDEs through the use of drugs or electrical stimulation to the brain, none of the reports has been altogether convincing. The reports have been based on a partial similarity to a limited aspect of NDE, or they have involved very few people—sometimes only a single individual—in an experiment that does not really replicate a full NDE, or the aftereffects do not coincide with those of a true NDE. After decades of investigation, researcher and psychiatrist Bruce Greyson, MD, has reported, “No one physiological or psychological model by itself explains all the common features of NDE.”*</em></p>
<p><em> </em><em>Thousands of documented NDEs challenge mainstream Western thinking and belief systems. Expectations about an afterlife may be challenged, and some people abruptly develop radically new interests and abilities after an NDE. One subject of debate is whether consciousness (mind) resides exclusively in the physical brain. For example, many people who have had an NDE accurately report events that occurred around their bodies when they were unconscious or even clinically dead—in at least one case, when clinical monitoring clearly showed no brain activity. Some NDEs have revealed family secrets, such as the existence of a never-mentioned sibling.  According to the prevailing belief system of industrialized societies, these things are scientifically impossible.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>It seems that finding an explanation for all NDEs is difficult.  Pim van Lommel presents a thorough examination of the various medical theories of NDEs, and why none of them quite fully explains the NDE, <a href="http://www.nderf.org/vonlommel_consciousness.htm">here</a>.</p>
<p><strong><em>What is the effect of NDEs on experiencers?</em></strong></p>
<p>An interesting fact about NDEs is that they tend to be transformative and positive for the experiencer.  Though there is often a period of depression immediately following the NDE (often due to the contrast between the feelings of joy in an NDE and the monotony and cruelty of daily life), NDE experiencers tend to be much better off in the long run:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>There is one common element in all near-death experiences: they transform the people who have them. In my twenty years of intense exposure to NDErs, I have yet to find one who hasn’t had a very deep and positive transformation as a result of his experience. </em> &#8211; Raymond A. Moody, M.D.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are <a href="http://www.iands.org/nde_index/ndes/aftereffects.html">after-effects</a> generally associated with NDEs, including, but not limited to, decreased fear of death, increased charity and spirituality, increased curiosity and philosophical outlook, and an increased sense of meaning and purpose in one&#8217;s own life.  These effects are not positively correlated with hallucinations, dreams, or intoxication.</p>
<p><em><strong>What do you think, Arthur?</strong></em></p>
<p>After reading many accounts of near-death experiencing, I&#8217;m convinced that they are authentic (though subjective) experiences.  For me, this is the most important part of NDE research:  NDE experiencers are overwhelmingly convinced that their experiences were real.  To almost all NDE experiencers, they didn&#8217;t see a vision of their dead parents, <em>they saw their dead parents</em>.  They didn&#8217;t have a hallucination of Christ, they didn&#8217;t have an open vision of Christ, <em>they saw Christ</em>.  The NDE challenges a reductionistic, materialistic world-view so convincingly, that it&#8217;s almost comical reading the accounts themselves and the scientific attempts to explain them.  You don&#8217;t have to take my word for it, there are huge <a href="http://www.nderf.org/NDERF_NDEs.htm">databases</a> online filled with literally thousands of self-reported NDE accounts.  Some meaningful quotes from the NDERF database:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Reality&#8221; seemed so unreal and boring compared to what I had just experienced and I was disappointed to be back</em>. &#8211; Marta G.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>I knew during the experience that is real, I knew directly after, I know now and will always know.</em> &#8211; Veronica W.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>I know it was real. The feeling of being in the light is like nothing that could be recreated</em> &#8211; Robert L.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>I have never had a dream that was so vivid so I can&#8217;t believe it was a dream it was like a dream only 1000 times more real than life itself.</em> &#8211; Linda G.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>I cannot explain it actually, but I know I really went there and saw Jesus I know. I know, I know. Period. I know.</em> &#8211; Linda K.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong><em>If NDEs are authentic experiences, what does this mean for Mormonism?</em></strong></p>
<p>This question continues to fascinate me.  The NDE can be threatening to some Latter-day Saints, when information retrieved from &#8220;beyond the veil&#8221; seems on its face to contradict LDS teachings.  Often NDE experiencers report that God &#8220;didn&#8217;t care&#8221; what Church they associated with, that there is &#8220;no sin,&#8221; that human souls reincarnate, or that all religions are equal in God&#8217;s eyes.</p>
<p>A quick search of NDERF&#8217;s database of NDEs turns up some interesting quotes about the LDS Church and Mormonism, from first-hand NDE accounts.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>What was the best and worst part of your experience?</strong> <em>The best was talking with our Lord Jesus Christ and finding out truths that the ancient theologians conveniently forgot to put into the scriptures.  I also know and it was confirmed to me the missing points could be found in three books that have never been revised or changed.  They have only been translated once and revealed only once.  Those three books are: The Book of Mormon, The Pearl of Great Price and The Doctrine and Covenants.</em> &#8211; William S.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>I became a Mormon in 1998, but left that Church again in 2003. The Mormon Missionaries told me that I was sent to &#8220;Spirit Prison&#8221; how they call it, because I was not a Mormon at the time of my death and that the only way to avoid another frightening death would be to become a Mormon myself. So I did. I worked in the Mormon Temple to &#8220;save the dead&#8221;, because they told me that I could help those other trapped spirits out of that world and I could help them to get to heaven by spending time in the Mormon Temple and doing the ordinances for them. I believed them and worked as an Ordinance Worker in the Temple for 2 full years (amongst elderly people &#8211; I was 23). I now feel like they used my NDE to put pressure on me to join their Church. I am glad I am no longer part of it. I am now just spiritual and free.</em> &#8211; Dominique S.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>I told some of my friends that were Mormon.  They believed that I was probably hallucinating.  After that, I have told no one until now.</em> &#8211; Beth L.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>My parents, in Utah, who were temple workers, a temple for the Mormon church, had my name written on the prayer list of names prayed for by those attending the temple that day for all the temples in the western United States that day.  Prayer is a tangible force, a power for good here on this earth!  Many people ask me what was the 1st thing I thought or felt when I came out of my coma, about 3 weeks after the accident.  What I felt, was the incredible feeling of power by being thought of by many and them praying for my recovery to God.  I could feel his love and compassion for me, and I believe this communication led to my incredible experience with Christ in that heavenly garden.  I now no longer hope that there is heaven and that Christ&#8217;s life experience and atonement are real,  Now I know!</em> &#8211; Derry B.</p></blockquote>
<p>Many Latter-day Saints have experienced an NDE themselves, and were able to reconcile LDS theology with their NDE.  Betty Eadie speaks at firesides about her experience, and remains a faithful Latter-day Saint (though she has de-emphasized at times her religious affiliation when telling others of her experience).  Many have drawn links between &#8220;classical&#8221; NDEs and <a href="http://www.code-co.com/rcf/mhistdoc/nde.htm">early Mormon Visions</a>.  Lee Nelson has released a series of books called <em>Beyond the Veil</em>, that feature many Latter-day Saint NDE accounts.  Even FARMS has published at least <a href="http://www.farmsnewsite.farmsresearch.com/publications/jbms/?vol=2&amp;num=1&amp;id=16">one article</a> comparing NDEs and visions in the Book of Mormon.</p>
<p>When I was a missionary, I tracted into a young Hispanic woman who, in broken English, immediately insisted that we listen to her own account of her near-death experience.  I remember with embarrassment, because, though I listened as politely as I could, in my mind I casually dismissed her story as a hallucination, because her Evangelical interpretation of the experience seemed to contradict the LDS Gospel that I was trying to teach <em>her</em>.  I feel ashamed now that I could be so callously dismissive of what I now think could have been a genuine experience with Diety.  Maybe this just makes me human.</p>
<p>But as for me, now, the NDE is a a fascinating part of my faith.  The more I read about NDEs, the more convinced I am that they might actually represent an authentic experience.  Of course, I&#8217;ve never experienced one myself, and due to the traumatic circumstances that seem to trigger them, perhaps I don&#8217;t <em>want</em> one, either.  Materialistic attempts at explaining the causes of NDEs seem to fall very short, especially considering how ferociously the experiencers seem to defend the reality of their experience.  But even if the NDE turns out to be a completely physical phenomenon, isn&#8217;t it strange that <em>natural selection</em> has provided a mechanism whereby millions of people see lucid, immensely joyful, loving visions of Jesus, deceased family members, other religious figures, God, or angels as they die?  Makes you think, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>Brother Brigham Brother Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently I drove up Little Cottonwood Canyon with my brother and nephew.  This is the canyon in which many of your ancestors pulled out  the granite for the construction of the salt lake temple. As soon as we passed the granite facings on the side of the canyon my nephew played a song on his iPod by Corb Lund Brother Brigham Brother Young and it brought mental flashes into my mind of men working on the side of the mountain blasting granite out of it.    It made me think of the struggles that men and women had even back then with the faith in many ways very similar to our day. From what I have read Mr Lund isn&#8217;t LDS but has relatives that are. Im assuming one of his relatives is a historian buff? Its probably safe to presume this song will never be played in a chapel but I can&#8217;t help liking it!  You can listen to his song Here Brother Brigham Brother Young music and lyrics by Corb Lund I have sinned so gravely Brother Brigham, Brother Young I have sinned so gravely Brother Young That only you can save me Brother Brigham, Brother Young That only [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-8451" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/corb-lund1.bmp" alt="corb lund" width="168" height="253" />Recently I drove up Little Cottonwood  Canyon with my brother and nephew.  This is the canyon in which many of your ancestors pulled out  the granite for the construction of the salt lake temple. As soon as we passed the granite facings on the side of the canyon my nephew played a song on his iPod by Corb Lund Brother Brigham Brother Young and it brought mental flashes into my mind of men working on the side of the mountain blasting granite out of it.    It made me think of the struggles that men and women had even back then with the faith in many ways very similar to our day. From what I have read Mr Lund isn&#8217;t LDS but has relatives that are. Im assuming one of his relatives is a historian buff? Its probably safe to presume this song will never be played in a chapel <img src='http://mormonmatters.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  but I can&#8217;t help liking it!  You can listen to his song <a href="http://www.last.fm/music/Corb+Lund/_/Brother+Brigham,+Brother+Young">Here<span id="more-8449"></span></a></strong></p>
<p><strong>Brother Brigham Brother Young</strong></p>
<p>music and lyrics by Corb Lund</p>
<p>I have sinned so gravely Brother Brigham, Brother Young<br />
I have sinned so gravely Brother Young<br />
That only you can save me Brother Brigham, Brother Young<br />
That only you can save me Brother Young</p>
<p>I have revealed the temples secrets Brother Brigham, Brother Young<br />
The temple garments, oaths and secrets Brother Young<br />
I have apostatized and doubted Brother Brigham, Brother Young<br />
And borne my testimony falsely Brother Young</p>
<p>And I have loved a woman Brother Brigham, Brother Young<br />
A woman in adultery Brother Young<br />
I have also wed a negress Brother Brigham, Brother Young<br />
My fifth wife has some color Brigham Young</p>
<p>I now see that you&#8217;re a prophet Brother Brigham, Brother Young<br />
A living, breathing prophet Brother Young<br />
And now I believe the revelations Brother Brigham, Brother Young<br />
I now believe your revelations, every one</p>
<p>Even the ones beyond all reason Brother Brigham, Brother Young<br />
Even the ones beyond all reason Brother Young<br />
For you&#8217;re the Lord&#8217;s own earthly prophet Brother Brigham, Brother Young<br />
And he’s simply testing in our faith o Brigham Young</p>
<p>My only hope for exaltation Brother Brigham, Brother Young<br />
My only chance for exaltation Brother Young<br />
Is to send me o&#8217;er the rim of the basin Brother Brigham, Brother Young<br />
The rim of the Great Salt Lake Basin Brother Young</p>
<p>For water cannot save me Brother Brigham, Brother Young<br />
Baptismal water cannot save me Brigham Young<br />
My sins are just too deep a dye o Brother Brigham, Brother Young<br />
My sins are just too deep a stain o Brother Young</p>
<p>So send Avenging Angels Brother Brigham, Brother Young<br />
Won&#8217;t you send Destroying Danites Brother Young<br />
To spill my blood upon the earth o Brother Brigham, Brother Young</p>
<p>So what do you think?</p>
<p>Do you find the song offensive?</p>
<p>Is it historicaly accurate of what may have happened to some of the saints in the salt lake valley?</p>
<p>Does it bare some similarites to what we have gone through in our day or not?</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know we&#8217;ve already had a good discussion here at Mormon Matters about euthanasia.  But as this subject has been on my mind lately, due to the news I got recently that my grandfather has terminal cancer, I was struck by what seems to me as a huge inconsistency on the Church&#8217;s part if we compare its policies on euthanasia and abortion. First of all, the Church&#8217;s official stance on euthanasia is as follows: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes in the sanctity of human life, and is therefore opposed to euthanasia. Euthanasia is defined as deliberately putting to death a person who is suffering from an incurable condition or disease. Such a deliberate act ends life immediately through, for example, so-called assisted suicide. Ending a life in such a manner is a violation of the commandments of God. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not believe that allowing a person to die from natural causes by removing a patient from artificial means of life support, as in the case of a long-term illness, falls within the definition of euthanasia. When dying from such an illness or an accident becomes inevitable, it should be [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know we&#8217;ve already had <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2009/04/05/whats-your-position-on-euthanasia/">a good discussion </a>here at Mormon Matters about euthanasia.  But as this subject has been on my mind lately, due to the news I got recently that my grandfather has terminal cancer, I was struck by what seems to me as a huge inconsistency on the Church&#8217;s part if we compare its policies on euthanasia and abortion.</p>
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<p>First of all, the Church&#8217;s official stance on euthanasia is as follows:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><span>The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints  believes in the sanctity of human life, and is therefore opposed to euthanasia.  Euthanasia is defined as deliberately putting to death a person who is suffering  from an incurable condition or disease. Such a deliberate act ends life  immediately through, for example, so-called assisted suicide. Ending a life in  such a manner is a violation of the commandments of God.</span></em></p>
<p><em>The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day  Saints does not believe that allowing a person to die from natural causes by  removing a patient from artificial means of life support, as in the case of a  long-term illness, falls within the definition of euthanasia. When dying from  such an illness or an accident becomes inevitable, it should be seen as a  blessing and a purposeful part of eternal existence. Members should not feel  obligated to extend mortal life by means that are unreasonable. These judgments  are best made by family members after receiving wise and competent medical  advice and seeking divine guidance through fasting and prayer.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>On abortion, the Church states:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes in the sanctity of  human life. Therefore, the Church opposes elective abortion for personal or  social convenience, and counsels its members not to submit to, perform,  encourage, pay for, or arrange for such abortions.</em></p>
<p><em>The Church allows for possible  exceptions for its members when:</em></p>
<p><em>• Pregnancy results from rape or incest,  or</em></p>
<p><em>• A competent physician determines that  the life or health of the mother is in serious jeopardy, or</em></p>
<p><em>• A competent physician determines that  the fetus has severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond  birth.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I find it interesting that in regards to people suffering from a painful,  terminal illness,<em> &#8220;(e)uthanasia is defined as deliberately putting to death a  person who is suffering from an incurable condition or disease&#8221;</em> and the Church  is opposed to it. And yet, when it comes to abortion, the Church states that it is acceptable when <em>&#8220;(a) competent physician determines  that the fetus has severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond  birth.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Why is it OK to actively end the life of the baby, but not the  terminally-ill cancer patient, when there is no hope of either of them  surviving?  Is such an abortion not also<em></em><em> &#8220;</em><span>deliberately putting to death a person who is suffering from an incurable condition or disease&#8230; a deliberate act (that) ends life immediately?&#8221;</span></p>
<p>When it comes to the aborting the fetus, why is <em><span>&#8220;(e)nding a life in  such a manner&#8221; </span></em>apparently NOT<em><span> &#8220;a violation of the commandments of God?&#8221;</span></em></p>
<p>Why is the baby not obligated to be carried to term and to live for as long as it survives and  endure a natural death like the cancer patient?</p>
<p>Discuss.</p>
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		<title>What if Christ&#8217;s Bones Were Found?</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/07/09/what-if-christs-bones-were-found/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 07:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mormon Heretic</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t know why, but I love to learn about archaeology, especially religious archaeology.  A few years ago, Simcha Jacobovici came out with a documentary and book called The Jesus Tomb.  In it, he makes a claim that the bones of Jesus may have been located in a tomb unearthed in Jerusalem.  Of course, the Da Vinci Code, while fiction, makes a claim that Jesus and his wife, Mary Magdalene were actually buried in France.  A few months ago, I watched a documentary called Bloodline, which actually goes further, and makes the case that yes, indeed, the bones of Christ and Mary are found in France.  (You can learn more at the official website.)  I just came across a third source, which claims that Christ&#8217;s bones are actually located in India.  See this website. (If you want a review of these 3, click here.)  So, with Christ being resurrected, Christians would obviously find these 3 sources as problematic.  If Christ was really resurrected, there should be no bones, right?  I must say I was really intrigued by Simcha Jacobovici&#8217;s position.  Simcha is a Jew, and said that if the bones were really discovered, then it would actually give credibility to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why, but I love to learn about archaeology, especially religious archaeology.  A few years ago, Simcha Jacobovici came out with a <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Tomb-Jesus/dp/B000OHZJSC">documentary</a> and book called <a href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/190675.The_Jesus_Family_Tomb_The_Discovery_the_Investigation_and_the_Evidence_That_Could_Change_History">The Jesus Tomb</a>.  In it, he makes a claim that the bones of Jesus may have been located in a tomb unearthed in Jerusalem.  Of course, the <a href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/968.The_Da_Vinci_Code">Da Vinci Code</a>, while fiction, makes a claim that Jesus and his wife, Mary Magdalene were actually buried in France.  A few months ago, I watched a documentary called Bloodline, which actually goes further, and makes the case that yes, indeed, the bones of Christ and Mary are found in France.  (You can learn more at the <a href="http://www.bloodline-themovie.com/">official website</a>.)  I just came across a third source, which claims that Christ&#8217;s bones are actually located in India.  See <a href="http://www.tombofjesus.com/2007/india/lost_tribes.html">this website</a>.</p>
<p><img title="More..." src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" /><span id="more-6114"></span>(If you want a review of these 3, <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/07/05/what-if-christs-bones-were-found/">click here</a>.)  So, with Christ being resurrected, Christians would obviously find these 3 sources as problematic.  If Christ was really resurrected, there should be no bones, right?  I must say I was really intrigued by Simcha Jacobovici&#8217;s position.  Simcha is a Jew, and said that if the bones were really discovered, then it would actually give credibility to Christianity, because it would in fact give proof that Jesus was an actual person.  (Of course, there are many who claim Jesus never existed, citing lack of evidence.)</p>
<p>So, it got me thinking.  Obviously, all 3 can&#8217;t be right.  But what if one of them is right?  Critics of Christianity would loudly trumpet the fact that the resurrection couldn&#8217;t have happened if the bones were found.  They already make claims that say this discovery &#8220;would shake the foundations of Christianity&#8221;, seeming to imply that Christianity would somehow disappear.  But would it really disappear?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so.  Let&#8217;s assume for sake of argument that one of these positions was scientifically proved correct&#8211;Jesus bones have been positively found.  Now, while I am sure it would cause much re-evaluation among Christians, I do not believe Christianity would vanish.  I suspect that many Christians would have to re-evaluate the resurrection.  Here&#8217;s some possible scenarios that I see happening.</p>
<p>(1)  The resurrection is actually not a physical resurrection.  I believe many people already believe this.  When we look at it, it&#8217;s a little tough to reconcile with the scriptures, because Jesus ate fish and honey after his resurrection.  &#8220;Touch me&#8221; was his reply&#8211;so it does seem to be a fact that he was physically resurrected.  But perhaps this physical resurrection would only apply to him, and not us?</p>
<p>(2)  Perhaps there was some sort of stem-cell/cloning technique for the resurrection.  Perhaps Jesus &#8220;corruptible&#8221; body is on the earth, but his new &#8220;celestial&#8221; body looks/feels the same, but is basically a perfected clone of his human body.</p>
<p>(3)  Perhaps the resurrection is not important at all.  Perhaps the Gnostics had it right, and the body is not needed in heaven.  Perhaps, Jesus true purpose is not the resurrection, but rather his purpose was to teach spiritual truths.  In this scenario, the resurrection is meaningless, and Christ&#8217;s atonement and teachings are what really matters.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are other options.  Can you think of some?  If Christ&#8217;s bones were truly found, would it really spell the end of Christianity, as skeptics claim?</p>
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		<title>WHAT THE WORLD THINKS OF GOD</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The ICM poll of 10,000 people in the USA, UK, Israel, India, South Korea, Indonesia, Nigeria, Russia, Mexico and Lebanon was carried out for the BBC It reveals that only 46% of respondents in the UK said they have always believed in God &#8211; 27% less than the average. Only Russia (42%) and South Korea (28%) were lower. Furthermore just 52% of UK respondents believed God (or a Higher Power) created the universe, compared to 85% in the USA, 83% in Mexico, 99% in Indonesia and 96% in Lebanon.The highest levels of belief are found in the poorer nations of Nigeria (98%), India (92%) and Indonesia (97%).However, the USA &#8211; the richest nation polled &#8211; has a very high level of belief. Only 13% of those polled in America said they found it hard to believe in God (a Higher power) when there was so much suffering in the world.Yet this compares to more than half (52%) of those polled in the UK &#8211; the highest of all the countries &#8211; and more than twice the average. The figures for Lebanon were 2% and Nigeria 12%. The survey found that Only 19% of those in the UK said they would [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="size-full wp-image-5864 aligncenter" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Whats-the-world-think-of-god3.JPG" alt="Whats the world think of god" width="431" height="218" /></p>
<p>The ICM poll of 10,000 people in the USA, UK, Israel, India, South Korea, Indonesia, Nigeria, Russia, Mexico and Lebanon was carried out for the BBC<span id="more-5860"></span></p>
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<p>It reveals that only       46% of respondents in the UK said they have always believed in God &#8211; 27% less than the average. Only Russia (42%) and South Korea (28%) were lower. Furthermore just 52% of UK respondents believed God (or a Higher Power) created the universe, compared to 85% in the USA, 83% in Mexico, 99% in Indonesia and 96% in Lebanon.The highest levels of belief are found in the poorer nations of Nigeria (98%), India (92%) and Indonesia (97%).However, the USA &#8211; the richest nation polled &#8211; has a very high level of belief. Only 13% of those polled in America said they found it hard to believe in God (a Higher power) when there was so much suffering in the world.Yet this compares to more than half (52%) of those polled in the UK &#8211; the highest of all the countries &#8211; and more than twice the average. The figures for Lebanon were 2% and Nigeria 12%.</p>
<p><img class="size-full wp-image-5865 alignleft" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/die-for-god.JPG" alt="die for god" width="109" height="104" /></p>
<p>The survey found that  Only 19% of those in the UK said they would die for their God/beliefs. This compares to 37% in Israel, 90% of those polled in Indonesia and Nigeria, and 71% in the USA and Lebanon.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="size-full wp-image-5892 aligncenter" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/koran1.jpg" alt="koran1" width="107" height="144" /></p>
<p>A staggering 78% of those polled in the USA claimed to have studied religious texts, by far the largest figure, followed by 51% in Nigeria and 42% in the UK. This    compares to an average of 33%.</p>
<p><img class="size-full wp-image-5890 alignleft" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/peace.jpg" alt="peace" width="102" height="120" /></p>
<p>The poll also looked at the place of religion in the world. Almost a third (29%) of people in the UK believe that the world would be a more peaceful place without beliefs in God but very few people in other countries agreed. Just 6% of those polled in America agreed with this view, 11% in Israel and 9% in India. The average across all ten countries was 10%.Only 15% of those polled in America blamed people of other religions for much of the trouble in the world compared with more than a third (37%) in the UK and 33% in Israel.This figure fell to 8% of those polled in Indonesia, 24% in Lebanon and 17% in India.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="size-full wp-image-5867 aligncenter" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/44248107_queen07congregation416_pa.jpg" alt="_44248107_queen07congregation416_pa" width="160" height="115" /></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The poll also looked at levels of attendance at organised religious services in the UK compared to the rest of the world. Across the ten countries, an average of 46% regularly attend a religious service but the figure was 21% in the UK, the second lowest behind Russia (7%). The highest figure was 91% for Nigerians, with 54% in the USA.</p>
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<p><img class="size-full wp-image-5869 alignright" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/MissionaryDB.jpg" alt="MissionaryDB" width="132" height="132" /></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Furthermore just 29% of UK respondents said they had been encouraged to believe in God by someone outside their family, compared with 57% in the USA.</p>
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<p><img src="/DOCUME%7E1/James/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-26.jpg" alt="" /> With regards to prayer, a total of 95% of Nigerians polled said they prayed regularly as did 67% of those polled in the USA with further numbers praying occasionally at times of crisis. 28% in the UK said they prayed regularly and 41% in Israel. However 25% of people in the UK and 29% of people in Israel said they never prayed.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="size-full wp-image-5868 aligncenter" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/atheist-bus-campaign-1_thumb.jpg" alt="atheist-bus-campaign-1_thumb" width="230" height="172" /></p>
<p>The poll did reveal however that nearly 30% of all atheists polled admitted they prayed sometimes.</p>
<p><img class="size-full wp-image-5894 alignright" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Service.jpg" alt="Service" width="115" height="151" /></p>
<p>Asked whether a belief in a God/higher power makes for a better human being, well over 80% of people in most countries agreed, but by far the lowest figure was in the UK with just 56%.</p>
<p><img class="size-full wp-image-5874 alignleft" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Judgement-day.jpg" alt="Judgement day" width="168" height="168" /></p>
<p>Furthermore, just 42% of UK respondents believed God (or a higher power) judges their actions and the way they lived their lives compared to 76% in America, 72% in Israel, 81% in Nigeria and an average of 70%.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="size-full wp-image-5895 aligncenter" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/tolerance.jpg" alt="tolerance" width="88" height="124" /></p>
<p>Exploring the issue of tolerance of different religions the poll found that more than 90% of all respondents in Nigeria, Indonesia and Lebanon believed their God was the only true God.This compares to 70% in Israel and just 31% in the UK.</p>
<p><img class="size-full wp-image-5896 alignright" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Heaven.jpg" alt="Heaven" width="104" height="155" /></p>
<p>The majority of those polled when asked if they believed death was the end disagreed. This was the case for more than half of the UK respondents (51%), 79% of those polled in Nigeria, 75% in Lebanon and 74% in the USA.</p>
<p>Looking at how attitudes change across different religions, the poll found that while 85% of Hindus and 83% of Muslims said they prayed regularly, only 65% of Christians did and barely a third (38%) of Jews.</p>
<p>When asked if their God was the only true God, 95% of Muslims said yes, compared with 68% of Christians and 66% of Jews.</p>
<p>But when asked if other religions were to blame for the troubles in the world, 34% of Jews agreed, while only 24% of Christians, 18% of Hindus and 14% of Muslims agreed.</p>
<p><strong>What do you think?</strong></p>
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		<title>Even Kung Fu Masters Eventually Leave Us</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/06/04/even-kung-fu-masters-eventually-leave-us/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Carradine died today in a hotel in Thailand. Go with God, Grasshopper. [poll id="9"] If your favorite actor is not listed here, who would you choose and why? What was your favorite martial arts movie?  Individual character role?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Carradine died today in a hotel in Thailand.</p>
<p>Go with God, Grasshopper. <span id="more-5630"></span></p>
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<p>If your favorite actor is not listed here, who would you choose and why?</p>
<p>What was your favorite martial arts movie?  Individual character role?</p>
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		<title>Taking the Fun Out of Funerals</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2009/06/02/taking-the-fun-out-of-funerals/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 07:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do you want your funeral to be like?  Do you care or do you figure you&#8217;ll be dead anyway?  How do you feel about burial vs. cremation?  Are you an organ donor? This is a topic that always excites some feeling, whether you are Mormon or not.  We all wonder about the legacy we will leave behind and what will be our life&#8217;s eulogy. Boyd K. Packer has spoken twice on the topic of funerals, once in 1988, and again in a BYU devotional in 1996.  He clearly has some strong feelings on this topic. Bishops should not yield the arrangement of meetings to members.  They should not yield the arrangement for funerals or missionary farewells to families.  It is not the proper order of things for members or families to expect to decide who will speak and for how long.  Suggestions are in order, of course, but the bishop should not turn the meeting over to them.  We are worried about the drift that is occuring in our meetings. I agree to some extent where missionary farewells are concerned, but funerals seem like a private family matter for grieving to me, not specifically a missionary moment. Funerals could [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">What do you want your funeral to be like?  Do you care or do you figure you&#8217;ll be dead anyway?  How do you feel about burial vs. cremation?  Are you an organ donor?<span id="more-5191"></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">This is a topic that always excites some feeling, whether you are Mormon or not.  We all wonder about the legacy we will leave behind and what will be our life&#8217;s eulogy.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><img class="alignright" src="http://happylists.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/funeral-procession.jpeg" alt="http://happylists.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/funeral-procession.jpeg" width="181" height="185" />Boyd K. Packer has spoken twice on the topic of funerals, once in <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=30f7d7630a27b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;hideNav=1">1988</a>, and again in a <a href="http://emp.byui.edu/huffr/The%20Unwritten%20Order%20of%20Things%20--%20Boyd%20K.%20Packer.htm">BYU devotional</a> in 1996.  He clearly has some strong feelings on this topic.</p>
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<div>Bishops should not yield the arrangement of meetings to members.  They should not yield the arrangement for funerals or missionary farewells to families.  It is not the proper order of things for members or families to expect to decide who will speak and for how long.  Suggestions are in order, of course, but the bishop should not turn the meeting over to them.  We are worried about the drift that is occuring in our meetings.</div>
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<div style="text-align: left;">I agree to some extent where missionary farewells are concerned, but funerals seem like a private family matter for grieving to me, not specifically a missionary moment.</div>
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<div>Funerals could and should be the most spiritually impressive.  They are becoming informal family reunions in front of ward members.  Often the Spirit is repulsed by humorous experiences or jokes when the time could be devoted to teaching the things of the Spirit, even the sacred things.</div>
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<div style="text-align: left;">I still hold the hope that HF has a great sense of humor.  It doesn&#8217;t take much observation of humanity to bolster that hope.</div>
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<div>When the family insists that several family members speak in a funeral, we hear about the deceased instead of the Atonement, the Resurrection, and the comforting promises revealed in the scriptures.  Now it&#8217;s all right to have a family member speak at a funeral, but if they do, their remarks should be in keeping with the spirit of the meeting.</div>
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<div style="text-align: left;">Personally, I feel that we honor the dead when we remember them personally, share the stories of their life and the joy they brought to us through knowing them.  The funeral is for the living survivors, not the dead, nor the church. </div>
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<div style="text-align: left;">I have told my Brethren in that day when my funeral is held, if any of them who speak talk about me, I will raise up and correct them.  The gospel is to be preached.</div>
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<div style="text-align: left;">Actually, I would pay good money to see this.  Who&#8217;s with me?</div>
<blockquote style="text-align: left;"><p>I know of no meeting where the congregation is in a better state of readiness to receive revelation and inspiration from a speaker than they are at a funeral.  This privilege is being taken away from us because we don&#8217;t understand the order of things&#8211;the unwritten order of things&#8211;that relates to the administration of the Church and the reception of the Spirit.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: left;">Really?  A funeral?  I rather think that non-members and inactives would be put off by the lack of respect to the deceased.  It seems a little insensitive.  Whereas those who are members already have come to honor their dead.  Isn&#8217;t family supposed to come first?</p>
<div style="text-align: left;"><strong>What do you think?</strong> Should funerals be 100% somber with no mention of the deceased as an individual, only as an example of the Plan of Salvation in action?  Is it best for grieving families to hold funerals in their homes or away from the church if they want to cherish and honor the specific memory of their loved ones individually?</div>
<div style="text-align: left;"><strong>What is your experience?</strong> Given the fact that these talks are 20 years old and 12 years old (and the second was only a BYU address), I am curious &#8211; it seems to be BKP&#8217;s opinion more than church policy based on its execution.  Are these instructions being carried out?  (I don&#8217;t attend enough funerals to know the current trends, but the last one I went to was mostly funny and touching stories about the deceased with maybe a church talk, but I&#8217;m pretty sure I tuned it out).</div>
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<div style="text-align: left;">For my funeral, I would like some personal anecdotes shared.  And if possible, at least at the viewing, an Elvis Costello soundtrack (or Meatloaf&#8217;s Bat Out of Hell if I specifically die in a car crash).  No jello or funeral potatoes unless you really really like that stuff (after all, I won&#8217;t have to eat it).  I am also not keen on the whole giving a church talk thing.  If there are a bunch of people giving church talks in Heaven, no thanks.  I would prefer to be sent into the ocean on a burning barge like the Vikings, but if that is impractical, make sure I look good, but keep expenses down.  But I&#8217;m not going to threaten anyone with &#8220;rising up&#8221; out of my casket if these orders are not followed.  When I die, I plan to stay reliably dead, at least for the duration of the funeral.</div>
<div style="text-align: left;">Discuss.</div>
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		<title>Good Man Gone</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A week ago, I attended the viewing and funeral of a man in our stake who died of an unexpected heart attack.  He was in his 50&#8242;s, had just been to the doctor and been pronounced fit as a fiddle, was losing weight and feeling great. He was the Bishop of his ward, and his wife had been cancer free for just over a year.  His son flew home for the weekend, after which he returned to finish his mission. I spoke with his wife briefly at the viewing, and something she said has been weighing on my mind ever since.  She said, essentially: He lost his mother about six weeks ago, and his aunt passed away five days later.  We had reached peace with death and were focused on life. I know it will be hard in a couple of weeks when everyone gets back to their own lives and I am alone to deal with not having him here, but I believe in the Atonement, the Plan of Salvation and the promises of the temple.  It will be hard, but I will be OK. What I want to share from this experience is not related directly to those [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A week ago, I attended the viewing and funeral of a man in our stake who died of an unexpected heart attack.  He was in his 50&#8242;s, had just been to the doctor and been pronounced fit as a fiddle, was losing weight and feeling great.</p>
<p>He was the Bishop of his ward, and his wife had been cancer free for just over a year.  His son flew home for the weekend, after which he returned to finish his mission. <span id="more-5347"></span>I spoke with his wife briefly at the viewing, and something she said has been weighing on my mind ever since.  She said, essentially:</p>
<blockquote><p>He lost his mother about six weeks ago, and his aunt passed away five days later.  <strong>We had reached peace with death and were focused on life.</strong> I know it will be hard in a couple of weeks when everyone gets back to their own lives and I am alone to deal with not having him here, but I believe in the Atonement, the Plan of Salvation and the promises of the temple.  It will be hard, but I will be OK.</p></blockquote>
<p>What I want to share from this experience is not related directly to those things she mentioned at the end (the Atonement, Plan and temples), but what she said at the beginning &#8211; being at peace.</p>
<p>As much as anything else, when I die I want to be at peace with death &#8211; <strong>but I also want to be at peace with life</strong>.  I don&#8217;t want to be bitter or angry or upset before I die &#8211; and I don&#8217;t want to live in that state, either; I want to be at peace.</p>
<p>I believe that is up to me &#8211; that it is my responsibility.  The natural man inclination is to blame others for our feelings &#8211; for whether or not we are at peace.  I understand the necessity for anger, grief and/or cognitive dissonance when certainty is shattered, ambiguity accelerates and testimony is tried.  I really do get that need.  However, I believe reconciliation of some kind that leads to peace and charity is critical.</p>
<p>I wish I had an easy answer.  I wish I had a universal, practical method that I knew would work for every individual.  The only answer I have is that there is peace in letting go &#8211; that there is peace in cutting others slack &#8211; there is peace in real charity &#8211; there is peace in the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  <strong>There isn&#8217;t always peace in the human organizations in which that Gospel is interpreted and taught, just as there isn&#8217;t always peace in even the most ideal families</strong>, but the peace the Gospel brings can influence and strengthen the peace that then can be brought individually into the Church &#8211; the community of spiritual family.</p>
<p>I hope I or my wife never has to deal with what this good Bishop&#8217;s wife is experiencing right now and in the near future.  I hope we die together, at a ripe old age.  More than that, however, I hope that when either of us dies, the other is at peace &#8211; <strong>because she or I simply has become a peaceful person</strong>.</p>
<p>As I strive to be a peacemaker and, thereby, to be called a child of God, I understand that the first peace I must influence and create is within my own heart and soul &#8211; that I can&#8217;t spread peace externally unless I am at peace internally.  For those who now are NOT at peace, I hope they can look for peace even before understanding.  That might seem counter-intuitive at first, but I believe peace can bring understanding &#8211; and that understanding, in and of itself, rarely brings peace &#8211; largely because the quest for understanding never ends.  Peace, on the other hand, can last and endure even during circumstances that cannot be understood &#8211; like the unexpected death of a good Bishop.</p>
<p>God bless you, Denny.  You will be missed.</p>
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		<title>Interfaith International British DJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 06:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK Paul technically isn&#8217;t exactly an international DJ, not unless you consider that you can listen to his interviews on line. He&#8217;s a returned missionary and member of the Grays Ward in the Romford Stake Essex England.  Paul got the show after being a presenter at Hospital Radio Chelmsford for a year and chased a local station for airtime: &#8220;When I was asked to join Phoenix FM the station manager warned me that radio presenting wasn&#8217;t all easy but in fact involved a lot of voluntary service too.  I responded that I was a missionary in France for 2 years for the church and was used to giving service to others, as well as being actively involved in the church weekly.  The station manager was intrigued by this and I was invited to the station to explain more about my religious beliefs and the voluntary service I had done in France.  I was then offered the chance to begin a brand new religious show once a week that they had been wanting to start but couldn&#8217;t find anyone with the religious background to do it.  I put together the idea for a chat show where he would bring in local [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&#8220;When I was asked to join Phoenix FM the station manager warned me that<span class="moz-txt-citetags"> </span>radio presenting wasn&#8217;t all easy but in fact involved a lot of<span class="moz-txt-citetags"> </span>voluntary service too.  I responded that I was a missionary in France<span class="moz-txt-citetags"> </span>for 2 years for the church and was used to giving service to others, as well as being actively involved in the church weekly.  The station <span class="moz-txt-citetags"><span> </span></span>manager was intrigued by this and I was invited to the station to explain more about my religious beliefs and the voluntary service I<span class="moz-txt-citetags"> </span>had done in France.  I was then offered the chance to begin a brand new religious show once a week that they had been wanting to start but couldn&#8217;t find anyone with the religious background to do it.  I put together the idea for a chat show where he would bring in local religious leaders and ask them about their beliefs on air and their views on current issues.&#8221;</span></p>
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<p>Mark Pinchin and Ian Clarkson from the <strong>Church of Scientology</strong> &#8211; Listen   <a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/upload/Mark%20P%20250309.mp3">here</a></p>
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<p>Great Interviews ( <em>All the ads and music have been stripped out</em>)</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2754.php"><strong> </strong></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2754.php"><strong>Habibur Rahman &amp; Forad Edu &#8211; Islam / Alfurqaan Foundation</strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2734.php"><strong>Father Matthew Bemand &#8211; St Thomas Church of England </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2732.php"><strong>Councillor Dudley Payne &#8211; Mayor of Brentwood </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2687.php"><strong>Mark Pinchin and Ian Clarkson &#8211; Scientology / Jive Aces </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2647.php"><strong>Ed Wellman &#8211; PhoenixFM Monday Classics </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2628.php"><strong>Richard Burch &#8211; Brentwood Buddhist Society </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2609.php"><strong>Chris Day &#8211; Crown Street Christian Fellowship </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2588.php"><strong>Reverand Peter Thomas (Baptist) </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2567.php"><strong>Reverand Trevor Jamison (United Reformed Church) </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2541.php"><strong>Julian May &#8211; ELIM </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2479.php"><strong>Father Paul Keane &#8211; Brentwood Catholic Cathedral </strong></a><br />
<a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/story/2459.php"><strong>Bishop David Barter</strong></a></p>
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<p><span class="moz-txt-citetags"> </span>The show can be seen at <a href="http://www.phoenixfm.com/proverbs98.php">www.phoenixfm.com/proverbs98.php</a></p>
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		<title>Mother&#8217;s Day</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 06:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mormon Heretic</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As you know by know, I often like to talk about history.  So, I thought I would try to learn a little about Mother&#8217;s Day.  While there have been various movements over the centuries, in the United States, it seems the first Mother&#8217;s Day movement began just after the Civil War with Julia Ward Howe&#8217;s Mother&#8217;s Day Proclamation in 1870.  Julia was a poet, writer, journalist, women&#8217;s suffrage activist, and abolitionist. Anna Jarvis continued the cause, and created the Mother&#8217;s Day International Association in 1912.  The Vancouver Sun said, &#8220;She was specific about the location of the apostrophe; it was to be a singular possessive, for each family to honour their mother, not a plural possessive commemorating all mothers in the world.&#8221;  Woodrow Wilson was the president who first signed the law designating May 9, 1914, as the first Official Mother&#8217;s Day celebration. This past week at church, my bishop talked about how hard Mother&#8217;s Day can be for some people.  I remember dating a girl whose father had passed away, and she remarked that she hated Father&#8217;s Day for that reason.  I also thought about a brother and sister of mine who both passed away (separately) both leaving behind 4 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you know by know, I often like to talk about history.  So, I thought I would try to learn a little about Mother&#8217;s Day.  While there have been various movements over the centuries, in the United States, it seems the first Mother&#8217;s Day movement began just after the Civil War with Julia Ward Howe&#8217;s Mother&#8217;s Day Proclamation in 1870.  Julia was a poet, writer, journalist, women&#8217;s suffrage activist, and abolitionist.</p>
<p><img src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" /><span id="more-5302"></span>Anna Jarvis continued the cause, and created the Mother&#8217;s Day International Association in 1912.  The Vancouver Sun said, &#8220;She was specific about the location of the apostrophe; it was to be a singular possessive, for each family to honour their mother, not a plural possessive commemorating all mothers in the world.&#8221;  Woodrow Wilson was the president who first signed the law designating May 9, 1914, as the first Official Mother&#8217;s Day celebration. <strong> </strong></p>
<p>This past week at church, my bishop talked about how hard Mother&#8217;s Day can be for some people.  I remember dating a girl whose father had passed away, and she remarked that she hated Father&#8217;s Day for that reason.  I also thought about a brother and sister of mine who both passed away (separately) both leaving behind 4 young children.  Mother&#8217;s Day and Father&#8217;s Day is tough for my nieces and nephews.  I also think about how tough the day can be for childless couples who crave children.  As a person who got married much later in life than Mormon culture expects, I can personally tell you on behalf of me and my wife, how difficult Mother&#8217;s Day and Father&#8217;s Day can be for singles who desire marriage and children, yet remain unmarried for whatever the reason is.</p>
<p>How do we celebrate mothers and motherhood, and still be sensitive to those who may struggle with the holiday?</p>
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		<title>Battlestar Galactica Series Finale Review:  SPOILER ALERT</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, I realize that the majority of our regular readership are probably not BSG watchers; however, since the reimagined series is based on the original late-1970s series created by Glen Larson, who used it as a vehicle for Mormon themes and theological musings, it&#8217;s likely that there are Mormons (beside me) who followed this much bleaker (and a gazillion times better) version.  This post is ONLY for those who have seen the Series Finale; it not only contains spoilers but is incomprehensible if you haven&#8217;t followed the show or watched the finale.  If this isn&#8217;t you, go rent the DVDs first, and we&#8217;ll see you in a few months.  EXTREME SPOILER ALERT. No finale can truly live up to the expectations of its fans.  Finales can be maudlin (Cheers), sentimental (M*A*S*H), or downright hostile to the loyal fans (Seinfeld).  Some finales wrap everything up in a neat bow (Bob Newhart Show), while others leave things enigmatic and open (Veronica Mars, although clearly not their fault&#8211;they got canceled). The updated show, which just ended after 4 very full seasons this week, brought us a bleak picture of humanity, characters who discovered they were Cylons when they thought they were humans, and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I realize that the majority of our regular readership are probably not BSG watchers; however, since the reimagined series is based on the original late-1970s series created by Glen Larson, who used it as a vehicle for Mormon themes and theological musings, it&#8217;s likely that there are Mormons (beside me) who followed this much bleaker (and a gazillion times better) version.  <span style="color: #0000ff;">This post is ONLY for those who have seen the Series Finale; it not only contains spoilers but is incomprehensible if you haven&#8217;t followed the show or watched the finale.  If this isn&#8217;t you, go rent the DVDs first, and we&#8217;ll see you in a few months. <strong><span style="color: #ff0000;"> EXTREME SPOILER ALERT.</span></strong></span><span id="more-4636"></span></p>
<p><img class="alignright" style="cursor: -moz-zoom-in;" src="http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Battlestar-Galactica-battlestar-galactica-64006_1920_1200.jpg" alt="http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Battlestar-Galactica-battlestar-galactica-64006_1920_1200.jpg" width="263" height="164" />No finale can truly live up to the expectations of its fans.  Finales can be maudlin (Cheers), sentimental (M*A*S*H), or downright hostile to the loyal fans (Seinfeld).  Some finales wrap everything up in a neat bow (Bob Newhart Show), while others leave things enigmatic and open (Veronica Mars, although clearly not their fault&#8211;they got canceled).</p>
<p>The updated show, which just ended after 4 very full seasons this week, brought us a bleak picture of humanity, characters who discovered they were Cylons when they thought they were humans, and humans who didn&#8217;t know what they were.  It had moments of brilliance, flashes of insight, and heart-breaking humanity at times.  That brings us to the finale.  IMO, the finale, while not a total disaster, had some serious flaws:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Navel-gazing flashbacks that didn&#8217;t move the ball forward.</strong> There are flashbacks for several of the main characters.  None of those flashbacks is useful at either new character development (it&#8217;s the finale anyway) or at moving the ball forward on the story.  Little of importance is revealed.  The flashbacks seem self-indulgent:
<ul>
<li><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Ellen &amp; Tigh</strong></span>.  They like to party, and they&#8217;re in love.  We know that.</li>
<li><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Adama</strong></span>.  He&#8217;s full of moxy, hates authority (except his own) and is capable of getting drunk enough that he can vomit on himself without trying to clean it up.  Not big news.</li>
<li><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Roslin</strong></span>.  Her close family was killed in an auto accident, and she slept with someone much younger than her which is why she decided to get back into politics.  So what?</li>
<li><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Lee &amp; Kara.</strong></span> They had yet another near-miss, although this one was certainly the most sordid of all and doesn&#8217;t reflect well on either of them.  It seems a bit out of character for both, in retrospect:  for Lee because he was so passive for the first few seasons (why he lost Kara to Anders), and for Kara because she was so in love with Zach that she barely knew Lee existed.  Continuity, people!</li>
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</li>
<li><strong>Unanswered questions.</strong> There are a lot of very big, very important questions left open:
<ul>
<li style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Who is Daniel?</strong></span> There&#8217;s one Cylon model missing who was boxed by a jealous Cavill, his brother Daniel.  Presumably, we&#8217;ve seen one of the Daniel models before, wandering around among the humans (otherwise, what a wasted opportunity!)  Many fans have suggested that Kara Thrace&#8217;s missing piano-playing father was Daniel (making Kara the first real half-human/half-Cylon; suck on that, Hera), but Ron Moore has denied that suggestion (hate fans much?) without offering any better one.</li>
<li><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>What is Kara?</strong></span> At the end of the series, she&#8217;s been killed, come back to life somehow, cremated herself, and then announced cryptically that she&#8217;s done with her journey; then, mid-conversation with Lee, she just disappears.  I&#8217;ll be honest, there are a lot of things they could have done with this.  The scene is reminiscent of Greek mythology, how the immortal Gods and Goddesses appear among mortals and then are suddenly gone.  But this again is just left hanging.  Answers are not likely forthcoming as Katee Sackhoff has not signed on for the fall&#8217;s BSG movie The Plan (which is a flashback anyway).  It just seems polite for someone to &#8216;fess up to who resurrected her, how, why, and what that makes her now.</li>
<li><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>What are Head Six and Head Baltar?</strong></span> Regardless of all that, the hallucinations/angels known to fans as Head Six and Head Baltar are walking through a modern-day version of Times Square at the end musing on how humanity always seems to end up at the same place regardless of the location:  Kobol, Caprica, the original Earth, and now the second Earth.  But no one is there hallucinating them.  What the heck are they?  Is there some mythology that is meant to explain who or what they are?  Hello?</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Gaping continuity problem OR wasted opportunity</strong>.  This is my <span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>biggest issue</strong></span> with the series finale.  The crew arrives at a pre-historic earth, roughly 150,000 years before an earth that is similar to our present day earth.  The crew decides that they will populate this planet, splitting up to the various land masses, live quietly and teach language to the indigenous people (alien seeding theory, to those evolutionists out there).  There are a few problems with that notion, one literary, one scientific:
<ul>
<li><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Scientific Issue</strong></span>:  Humans didn&#8217;t develop written language until about 10,000 years ago, yet these guys were going to be teaching language to pre-historic humans 140,000 years before that?  I don&#8217;t think so.  That would have to move human evolution along much faster, too.  The development of language is one of the most pivotal moments in human development.</li>
<li><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Literary Issue</strong></span>:  The characters populating earth have names that are significant to our world history, yet they have been placed there at the wrong time to have been the basis for those cultural events:
<ul>
<li>Galen is going to live alone in a cold island off the biggest land mass.  Perhaps his name is intended to be the basis for the Gaelic language?  Nope, sorry&#8211;you&#8217;re off by over 140,000 years.</li>
<li>There are many characters with names associated with Greece through geography (Thrace = Thracia) or through mythology (Apollo, Athena, Hera, the names of the 12 colonies).  But, that can&#8217;t be right.  They&#8217;re off by about 142,000 years!</li>
<li>Adama could be the basis for mythology about Adam, but again, unlikely given the lapse of 140,000 years between their landing date and written human history.</li>
<li>There are many religious concepts associated with the show that could have been woven into earth&#8217;s mythology, but now can&#8217;t be due to the 140,000 year gap between their landing and recorded history.  Some of the themes:  resurrection, a Sun God, Icarus, the nature of angels, the will of God (or the gods), the nature of prophets, etc.  So instead, we have to believe that earth developed all of those independently at a later point in earth&#8217;s development, despite the coincidence.</li>
</ul>
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<p>So, for those of you who are fans (and if you&#8217;re not, you were warned to skip this post), what did you think of the Series Finale?  Better than you expected?  A disappointment?  Somewhere in between?  Discuss.</p>
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		<title>Filtered Visions by guest Reuben Collins</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been thinking about Levi Peterson&#8217;s The Backslider lately (SPOILERS AHEAD). The 1986 novel tells the story of Frank Windham, a Mormon cowboy from southern Utah. Frank struggles with his faith and finding his place in Mormon culture. Topics including sexual sin, backsliding, self-mutilation, and guilt have made this novel pretty controversial in many Mormon settings. Despite being beautifully written, I&#8217;ve always thought that the true genious of the novel is the way Frank envisions God &#38; Jesus. Something happens during the transmission of Heavenly knowlege from God into the human mind. We are terribly incapable of understanding or comprehending God. And this means that our visions and revelations, as sacred as they may be, aren&#8217;t actually visions of God. They&#8217;re human interpretations of glory beyond our understanding. We have visions of God &#8211; glorious visions &#8211; real visions &#8211; but they&#8217;re filtered through an earthly lens colored by our personal circumstances. We understand God based on who we need Him to be. This isn&#8217;t to denigrate the authenticity of visions, but we should be careful when trying to make categorical statements about God based on an earthly vision. At one point in the novel, Frank is feeling guilty because [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/41yejfzkyel_sl500_aa240_.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4425" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/41yejfzkyel_sl500_aa240_.jpg" alt="" width="168" height="168" /></a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about Levi Peterson&#8217;s The Backslider lately (SPOILERS AHEAD). <span id="more-4400"></span></p>
<p>The 1986 novel tells the story of Frank Windham, a Mormon cowboy from southern Utah. Frank struggles with his faith and finding his place in Mormon culture. Topics including sexual sin, backsliding, self-mutilation, and guilt have made this novel pretty controversial in many Mormon settings. Despite being beautifully written, I&#8217;ve always thought that the true genious of the novel is the way Frank envisions God &amp; Jesus.</p>
<p>Something happens during the transmission of Heavenly knowlege from God into the human mind. We are terribly incapable of understanding or comprehending God. And this means that our visions and revelations, as sacred as they may be, aren&#8217;t actually visions of God. They&#8217;re human interpretations of glory beyond our understanding. We have visions of God &#8211; glorious visions &#8211; real visions &#8211; but they&#8217;re filtered through an earthly lens colored by our personal circumstances. We understand God based on who we need Him to be. This isn&#8217;t to denigrate the authenticity of visions, but we should be careful when trying to make categorical statements about God based on an earthly vision.</p>
<p>At one point in the novel, Frank is feeling guilty because of his backsliding and he imagines God pointing a gun at him, calling him to repentance. For some this is absurd, but for Frank, it was as real as any other heavenly vision. His understanding of God is shaped by his experiences. Whereas God communicated his wrath to Adam through banishment, to Noah through flooding, to Moses through serpents and plagues, He communicated his wrath to Frank through a rifle.</p>
<p>By the end of the novel, Frank imagines Jesus as a Cowboy, riding a horse with cigarette in hand. It&#8217;s an account that is sure to rub many Mormons the wrong way, but it&#8217;s who Frank needed Jesus to be in order to have faith in Him. A merciful God wouldn&#8217;t send Frank anything less than Cowboy Jesus.</p>
<p>So we can talk about who God is, what He looks like, or where He came from, but it doesn&#8217;t matter.  What matters is that He is.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much about God, but i&#8217;m pretty sure Jesus rides a bicycle.</p>
<p>&#8220;Happiness is a full bike rack!&#8221; &#8211;Yehuda Moon</p>
<p>So attentive MM readers, won&#8217;t you tell me a little about YOUR version of God?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[A recent article in Time discusses several studies about the correlation between faith and health.  Does church attendance contribute to a healthier, longer life?  Is Mormon culture more or less health-promoting than other faiths?A few things noted in various studies in the article: Intercessory prayer for the sick only has a health benefit when the sick person knows about it.    Does prayer for the sick make them healthy?  If so, how does it work?  It is simply placebo effect (sounds a lot like being healed according to your faith) or is there more to it? Prayer and meditation actually change the brain&#8217;s development; those who frequently pray have much more developed frontal lobes.  Maybe we could replace TR questions with a simple brain scan.  I kid. Those who do not attend church have twice the risk of dying in the next 8 years as those who attend church weekly.  Risk levels vary based on church attendance.  (1992, Univ. of TX study).  Conclusion:  Go to church or die. Those who attend church live 2-3 years longer than those who do not.  (Univ. of Pittsburgh Medical Center). So, why all these health benefits? Community centers.  Social benefits of church attendance or being [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A recent article in <a href="http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1879016-3,00.html">Time </a>discusses several studies about the correlation between faith and health.  Does church attendance contribute to a healthier, longer life?  Is Mormon culture more or less health-promoting than other faiths?<span id="more-4262"></span>A few things noted in various studies in the article:</p>
<ul>
<li>Intercessory prayer for the sick only has a health benefit when the sick person knows about it.    Does prayer for the sick make them healthy?  If so, how does it work?  It is simply placebo effect (sounds a lot like being healed according to your faith) or is there more to it?</li>
<li>Prayer and meditation actually change the brain&#8217;s development; those who frequently pray have much more developed frontal lobes.  Maybe we could replace TR questions with a simple brain scan.  I kid.</li>
<li>Those who do not attend church have twice the risk of dying in the next 8 years as those who attend church weekly.  Risk levels vary based on church attendance.  (1992, Univ. of TX study).  Conclusion:  Go to church or die.</li>
<li>Those who attend church live 2-3 years longer than those who do not.  (Univ. of Pittsburgh Medical Center).</li>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><img src="http://www.superiway.net/immanuel/prayer.jpg" alt="http://www.superiway.net/immanuel/prayer.jpg" width="123" height="145" />So, why all these health benefits?</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Community centers</strong>.  Social benefits of church attendance or being in an extended family of believers.  Some congregations deliberately work together to promote health or weight loss.</li>
<li><strong>Friendships</strong>.  Individual relationships can provide the extra support needed to relieve stress, to feel understood, and to care for each other when ill.</li>
<li><strong>Physical sensations associated with houses of worship</strong>.  As a hospital can contribute to wellness (or illness if dirty or depressing), so can houses of worship transport one&#8217;s body by creating feelings of comfort and health.</li>
<li><strong>Belief that the body is a temple</strong>.  When you believe that your body is sacred or divine, you are not only more likely to take care of it, but you create health through your emotional state.</li>
<li><strong>Prayer&#8217;s impact on the brain</strong>.  Prayer and meditation can literally transport the body and create health.</li>
</ul>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://pics.livejournal.com/dimitridze/pic/00129q9x" alt="http://pics.livejournal.com/dimitridze/pic/00129q9x" />So, while every church has health benefits, what are the unique components to Mormonism that lead to a healthier life?</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Focus on Families.</strong> Healthy family relationships that are supportive and free from abuse are probably the number one prolonger of life.</li>
<li><strong>Visiting/home teaching</strong>.  The sense that someone knows and cares that you exist is a powerful force for those who might otherwise succumb to despair or feel they are alone in illness.  Friendship is one of the great health benefits of religion.  Plus, you may get a rush of endorphins when your VTers just can&#8217;t get to you in the month, feeling like you have extra time in your schedule.</li>
<li><strong>Fasting</strong>.  Many religions and spiritual disciplines prize fasting for its health benefits in clearing the body of toxins.  Mormon fasting also has the benefit of altruism; those fasting feel good about donating the cost of the skipped meals to the poor.</li>
<li><strong>Lay clergy &amp; participation expectations</strong>.  The more engaged you are in your religion, the more likely you are to reap health benefits from fellowship, service, and a sense of purpose or meaning.</li>
<li><strong>Prayer</strong>.  Prayer can literally help your body heal in transcending the temporal concerns that might plague you.  Deepest prayer accesses parts of the brain not normally used.</li>
<li><strong>Priesthood blessings</strong>.  Rituals associated with healing allow faith to release the benefits to the body, much like a placebo effect.  The better the ritual, the more convincing environment for faith (think suspension of disbelief).</li>
<li><strong>Temple attendance</strong>.  Boring?  Mystical?  Transcendent?  If for no other reason, the temple provides a health benefit through silent meditation (anything above a stage whisper is gauche) and complete isolation from outside distractions such as blackberries and whining kids.</li>
<li><strong>Tithing &amp; church welfare.</strong> Especially in trying economic times, it&#8217;s a comfort to know that there is a fallback with church welfare for those full tithe payers.</li>
<li><strong>Word of Wisdom</strong>.  If for no other reason than eschewing alcohol and tobacco, the WoW would have health benefits for those who might otherwise O.D. on harmful substances.  In times of stress or illness, though, eliminating coffee and tea and eating meat sparingly can have additional health benefits.</li>
</ul>
<p>What are the components to Mormonism that could lead to reduced health?  Are any of these unique to Mormonism?</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Stress</strong>.  This varies from person to person, but there seems to be a correlation between high levels of belief, perfectionism (expecations of perfection from oneself and others), and responsibility (aka stewardship).  If we could just get rid of that pesky middle one, all would be well.  IOW, &#8220;be ye therefore perfect&#8221; could land you six feet under.</li>
<li><strong>Two words:  Funeral potatoes</strong>.  It&#8217;s hard to imagine a more cholesterol laden food.  Oh, wait.  Honey butter.  Possibly fry sauce.  So-called Mormon foods are neither good for the body, nor for the belly.  If you want to develop a hefty pair of Relief Society arms, go to a ward potluck.</li>
<li><strong>Repression</strong>.  Repressing one&#8217;s feelings can lead to depression, ulcers, and can weaken the immune system and make one more prone to all kinds of illness.  Those who feel they have to put on a mask to fit in to Mormon culture are going to be less healthy, first emotionally, then physically.  There has to be room in the culture for a diverse array of people to feel comfortable being their authentic selves.  We literally kill people when we don&#8217;t accept them for who they are.  And last I checked, &#8220;Thou shalt not kill&#8221; was still one of the top ten no-nos.</li>
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<p>So, is Mormonism more or less healthy than other faiths or about the same?  Are there times when someone should leave the church for health reasons?  How can we make church healthier for all?  Discuss.</p>
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		<title>Joshua&#8217;s Unholy War</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 06:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Admin Note: This is our first guest post from Mormon Heretic. When most of us hear the word &#8220;jihad&#8221; or &#8220;holy war&#8221;, we immediately know that a jihad is not what God wants.  Most of us feel the same when we hear the word &#8220;crusade.&#8221;  Really, does anyone think God wants people to fight in his name? In the book of Joshua, Joshua claims to be commanded by God to destroy everyone and everything in what is now the land of Israel. &#8220;And they utterly  destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and  ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword. So Joshua smote all  the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the  springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly  destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. And  Joshua smote them from Kadesh-barnea even unto Gaza, and all the country  of Goshen, even unto Gibeon.&#8221; (Joshua 10:40-41) In an interesting twist, the prophet Jonah wanted God to destroy the city of Nineveh, yet God felt those people were to be spared.  Were the Ninevites [...]]]></description>
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<p>When most of us hear the word &#8220;jihad&#8221; or &#8220;holy war&#8221;, we immediately know that a jihad is not what God wants.  Most of us feel the same when we hear the word &#8220;crusade.&#8221;  Really, does anyone think God wants people to fight in his name?</p>
<p>In the book of Joshua, Joshua claims to be commanded by God to destroy everyone and everything in what is now the land of Israel. <img title="More..." src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" /><span id="more-4182"></span></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;And they utterly  destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and  ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword. </strong></p>
<p><strong>So Joshua smote all  the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the  springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly  destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. And  Joshua smote them from Kadesh-barnea even unto Gaza, and all the country  of Goshen, even unto Gibeon.&#8221;</strong> (Joshua 10:40-41)</p></blockquote>
<p>In an interesting twist, the prophet Jonah wanted God to destroy the city of Nineveh, yet God felt those people were to be spared.  Were the Ninevites really more righteous than the Jericho-ites?  Does God command genocide, yesterday, today, or in the future?</p>
<p><strong>Orthodox History</strong></p>
<p>First, let&#8217;s go back about 400 years or so before the time of Joshua, to the time of Joseph, Israel, and the 12 tribes. Israel and his sons left the &#8220;chosen land&#8221; of their own free will. They were not forced out of the land by foreign invaders. They were forced out by drought.</p>
<p>As we know, Joseph was sold into Egypt as a slave, and then ended up saving the whole family of Israel. Israel, and his sons freely settled in Goshen, Egypt. They liked the place so much, that they had no desire to leave.</p>
<p>Probably due to changes in the government, and the Israelites growing numbers, the Israelites were later viewed as a threat, and ended up becoming slaves to the Egyptians, so the nation of Israel (which was formerly just a really big family) longed to return to the &#8220;promised land.&#8221; Of course, this brings up the whole Exodus story, and wandering for 40 years, etc.</p>
<p>So they left the &#8220;promised land&#8221; for 400 years, which was resettled by 6 nations.  I&#8217;d say that if Israel really wanted the land back, they should have returned after the 7 years of drought-they&#8217;d have a much stronger claim than waiting 400 years.</p>
<p>Ok, so now the land is occupied by these six &#8220;squatters.&#8221; Are they are just supposed to get up and leave because Moses/Joshua said so? A modern equivalent would be the Muslims claim that God wanted people to fly planes into the world trade center. Just as Christians and Jews just don&#8217;t understand &#8220;God&#8217;s will,&#8221; from the Muslim point of view, these six squatter nations didn&#8217;t understand &#8220;God&#8217;s will&#8221; telling them to pick up and leave the promised land.</p>
<p>How did Joshua negotiate? Cleon Skousen justifies Joshua&#8217;s actions by saying,</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;each city or tribe was given the opportunity to submit peacefully and become citizens of Israel with the condition that they would follow the rules and laws set forth by the new central kingdom, including giving up their idolatry and immorality.&#8221;<br />
</strong><br />
Excuse me? They&#8217;ve lived there for at least 300 years, and now Joshua tells them to submit peacefully? What kind of negotiation is that? It sounds suspiciously like Jihad or Crusader &#8220;convert or die&#8221; kinds of negotiation. If someone gave me that kind of a choice, I&#8217;d probably put up a fight too.</p>
<p><strong>Unorthodox History</strong></p>
<p>Some scholars claim that Joshua and Moses never existed.  The accounts of the Old Testament (especially those of the Pentateuch) were not written until centuries after their narratives had ended. Most of these were carried on through oral tradition and were later compiled into a written and collaborated form.</p>
<p>Scholars, such as William Dever of the University or Arizona, claim that (<a href="http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/18/1679514.aspx" target="_blank">http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/18/1679514.aspx</a>) the Land of Canaan was not taken over by conquest &#8211; rather, the Israelites actually might have been Canaanites who migrated into the highlands and created a new identity for themselves. <strong>&#8220;Joshua really didn&#8217;t fight the Battle of Jericho,&#8221; Dever said.</strong> These scholars say the Exodus never happened, but was invented to create a new identity for a new group of people, with the new religion of Yahweh.</p>
<p>I know there is some problems of dating the city of Jericho to the time of Joshua. However, in my mind, it seems as if Joshua (or whoever he really represents) is glorifying war. From that point of view, I have no reason to doubt that the Israelites probably used God as a weapon to destroy their enemies, whether they were fellow Semites or the six heathen nations. I see this reasoning as very similar to the Crusades, and Jihad, and have no reason to doubt whether genocide happened in the time of Joshua. It seems that the story of Jericho is a way the Jews used God to justify atrocities.</p>
<p>My take is that Joshua was a prophet.  He felt he was inspired.  However, I do not feel that God wanted all the inhabitants killed.  I do not think God ever commands genocide, and I feel that this action was wrong by Joshua.</p>
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		<title>Can you be a Unitarian and a Mormon at the Same Time?</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We should gather all the good and true principles in the world and treasure them up, or we shall not come out true Mormons. Joseph Smith Are you a Unitarian without knowing it? We believe that: In the spirit of civil and religious liberty, equality of respect and opportunity is for everyone Everyone has the right to seek truth and meaning for themselves. The fundamental tools for doing this are your life experience, your reflection upon it, your intuitive understanding and the promptings of your own conscience. The best setting for this is a community that welcomes you for who you are, complete with your beliefs, doubts and questions. We can be called religious ‘liberals’: Religious because we unite to celebrate and affirm values that embrace and reflect a greater reality than self. Liberal because we claim no exclusive revelation or status for ourselves; because we afford respect and toleration to those who follow different paths of faith. We are called ‘Unitarians’: Because of our traditional insistence on divine unity, the oneness of God. Because we affirm the essential unity of humankind and of creation. A liberal approach Unitarians find their bond of unity in shared values, such as: The [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">We should gather all the good and true principles in the world and treasure them up, or we shall not come out true Mormons. Joseph Smith</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">Are you a Unitarian without knowing it?<br />
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<p><strong><span style="Arial;">We believe that:</span></strong><span style="Arial;"> </span></p>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">In the spirit of <span style="normal;">civil</span> and <span style="normal;">religious</span> <span style="normal;">liberty</span>, <span style="normal;">equality</span> of <span style="normal;">respect</span> and <span style="normal;">opportunity</span> is for everyone</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">Everyone has the right to <span style="normal;">seek</span> <span style="normal;">truth</span> and <span style="normal;">meaning</span> for themselves.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">The fundamental tools for doing this are your <span style="normal;">life experience</span>, your <span style="normal;">reflection</span> upon it, your <span style="normal;">intuitive understanding</span> and the promptings of your own conscience.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">The best setting for this is a community<strong> </strong>that welcomes you for who you are,      complete with your beliefs, doubts and questions.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><strong><span style="Arial;">We can be called religious ‘liberals’</span></strong><span style="Arial;">: </span></p>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"><em><span style="Arial;">Religious</span></em><span style="Arial;"> because we unite      to<strong> </strong><span style="normal;">celebrate</span> and <span style="normal;">affirm</span> values      that embrace and reflect a <span style="normal;">greater      reality than self</span>.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><em><span style="Arial;">Liberal</span></em><span style="Arial;"> because we      claim <span style="normal;">no exclusive revelation or      status</span> for ourselves; because we afford <span style="normal;">respect</span> and <span style="normal;">toleration</span> to those who follow <span style="normal;">different </span></span><span style="normal;">pa</span><span style="Arial;">ths</span><span style="Arial;"> of faith.</span></li>
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<p><strong><span style="Arial;">We are called ‘Unitarians’</span></strong><span style="Arial;">: </span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">Because of our traditional insistence on<strong> </strong><span style="normal;">divine unity</span>, the oneness of      God.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">Because we affirm the <span style="normal;">essential      unity</span> of humankind and of creation.</span></li>
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<p><strong><span style="Arial;">A liberal approach </span></strong></p>
<p><span style="Arial;">Unitarians find their bond of unity in shared values, such as: </span></p>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">The nurture of life&#8217;s spiritual dimension.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">The use of reason and honest doubt in the search for truth.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">Mutual respect and goodwill in personal relations.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">Constructive tolerance and openness towards the sincerely-held      beliefs of others.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">Peace, compassion, justice and democracy in human affairs.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">Reverence for the earth and the whole natural system of which we      are part.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="Arial;">It is the Unitarian experience that these values form a more effective foundation for true community than insistence on uniformity of belief and doctrine. Unitarians affirm that truth and humanity are best served where both the mind and the conscience are free. They maintain that no one book, institution or individual has the monopoly on truth, no matter what they may claim for themselves or their devotees may claim for them. Unitarians affirm that: </span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">Every person&#8217;s life involves developing a value-system by which she      or he lives.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">People should enjoy individual liberty and private judgment in      spiritual matters.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">Respect for integrity is preferable to the pressure to conform.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">Beliefs may change in the light of new understanding and insight.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">The final authority for your faith lies within your own conscience.</span></li>
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<p><span style="Arial;">On our personal life journey we are aided and inspired by: </span></p>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">The example and spiritual insights of others.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">Writings deemed &#8216;holy&#8217; and &#8216;sacred&#8217; by the various faith-traditions      of humanity.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">Inherited traditions of critical and philosophical thought.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">The ongoing creative work of artists, musicians and writers.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">The scientist&#8217;s search for knowledge and understanding.</span></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.unitarian.org.uk/images/Intro2.pdf">Here</a> Unitarian PDF A Faith worth thinking about?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">You Tube video explains it very well!  <a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=st5Pv3lsG60">Here<br />
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Questions</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">As you probably know there are 5<sup>th</sup> Generation Mormon/Masons who receive all the privileges affiliated with the church</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">But can you be a non-theist=non Christian Unitarian and a Mormon </span><span style="Arial;">receive all the privileges affiliated with the church</span><span style="Arial;">? </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="normal;">Even in our church there seems to be a growing number of active non-theist members?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="normal;">Aren’t we encouraged to have Inter-Faith Partnerships and Dialogue associate with religions whose teachings differ from ours?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">Do you disagree with some of their teachings?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;">Do you identify with some of their teaching and principles more than you do with some LDS teachings?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">What are some of the good principles we should gather together and bring into Mormonism?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="Arial;"><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--></span></p>
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		<title>Modern Medical Miracles: Could it be Satan?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Spector</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just about every day in the news, we hear of an advance in modern medicine that can prolong life that might otherwise be lost if the person is left without this medical treatment.  Whether it is a new treatment for an otherwise terminal illness or the ability to save an infant that might not survive after birth, the advances in medicine have been breathtaking in their ability to prolong and improve quality of life.  In many cases, a religious person might consider such things as modern miracles. I know that I do. So where do these medical miracles come from?  Certainly, from the minds and work of Doctors and medical researchers.  In most cases, many years of study, trials and treatments bring about these things. But, really, who is the author of these miracles? The first thought that comes to my mind, is that these things come from God.  That He has given the gift of intelligence to the people to discover medical miracles that prolong life.  That He inspires them and allows certain positive things to happen to make these advances a reality. Because all good things come from God.  I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;d get an argument about this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just about every day in the news, we hear of an advance in modern medicine that can prolong life that might otherwise be lost if the person is left without this medical treatment.  Whether it is a new treatment for an otherwise terminal illness or the ability to save an infant that might not survive after birth, the advances in medicine have been breathtaking in their ability to prolong and improve quality of life.  In many cases, a religious person might consider such things as modern miracles. I know that I do.<span id="more-3410"></span></p>
<p>So where do these medical miracles come from?  Certainly, from the minds and work of Doctors and medical researchers.  In most cases, many years of study, trials and treatments bring about these things. But, really, who is the author of these miracles?</p>
<p>The first thought that comes to my mind, is that these things come from God.  That He has given the gift of intelligence to the people to discover medical miracles that prolong life.  That He inspires them and allows certain positive things to happen to make these advances a reality. Because all good things come from God.  I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;d get an argument about this from a religious person.  Secularists would argue otherwise, but then they argue anything that has to do with God and religion.</p>
<p>Here is the LDS Church position on prolonging life:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not believe that allowing a person to die from natural causes by removing a patient from artificial means of life support, as in the case of a long-term illness, falls within the definition of euthanasia.  When dying from such an illness or an accident becomes inevitable, it should be seen as a blessing and a purposeful part of eternal existence.  Members should not feel obligated to extend mortal life by means that are unreasonable.  These judgments are best made by family members after receiving wise and competent medical advice and seeking divine guidance through fasting and prayer. &#8221; (<a href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/public-issues/euthanasia-and-prolonging-life">http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/public-issues/euthanasia-and-prolonging-life</a></p></blockquote>
<p>But, on the other hand, I wonder if God, in His infinite wisdom and perfect Plan of Salvation would allow unnecessary prolonging of a life that might, through the natural progression of things, pass away from the infliction.  It seems that He allows those inflictions as part of the cycle of life.  Could it be that these medical miracles actually thwart the Plan of the Father?  Could these seemly positive things be the product of him whose purpose is to put obstacles in the way of God&#8217;s children who try to realize their greatest reward, that of Eternal Life?  Could these medical miracles be his work? </p>
<p><strong>Could it be Satan?</strong></p>
<p>Kind of a crazy premise I know, but I can think of a number of reasons why it could be so.</p>
<p>For an older person, at the final stages of his/her life, it would seem cruel to intervene medically to prevent that person from passing through the veil to the other side to a possible reunion of loved ones, an assignment and peace and rest from the trials of this life.</p>
<p>For an infant, born prematurely with a life threatening condition, needing only to gain a mortal body, being hooked to wires and tubes, treated for months to receive a partial life, with multiple challenges and a difficult existence.</p>
<p>Think of the resources, both time and money that go into prolonging a life. The millions of dollars poured into research.  The profits made by huge corporations.  The fact it can drain a family&#8217;s life savings, leaving them in debt forever.</p>
<p>Now, there are many, many examples of lives being prolonged that are fruitful and worthwhile.  There is no doubt about that. </p>
<p>There are many stories about miracles that have happened to cure someone of an infliction.  But, in many of those cases, they are without medical intervention and a mystery to medical personnel.  That is very different than what I am discussing.  Those non-medical miracles are given to us by God.</p>
<p>So, what do you think?  Again, I know it is crazy, but it is something I thought about.</p>
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