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		<title>Sorrowing for Korihor</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mormon Heretic&#8217;s post on forgiveness from a few weeks ago touched me deeply, but I needed time to get my thoughts together about it before I could respond. I once had the neighbor from hell. I use the expression with theological intent. Smart and relentlessly treacherous, he was somewhere on the spectrum from malignant narcissist to full-fledged sociopath, and I had no desire to observe closely enough to find out where. I do not know what horror had befallen him &#8212; if anything more significant than a stray cosmic ray hitting the genome at the wrong time &#8212; but he seemed to be without sincere empathy toward anyone. Worse, he seemed to have grown to love cruelty as the only thing giving meaning to his life. He was Jack Nicholson as the Joker: &#8220;So many people to hurt, so little time!&#8221; If he was not planning or executing some plot against one person, it was because he was busy with a more hated target. Our family&#8217;s first hostile contact with this guy arose innocently enough. His daughter had a cat. When his daughter was living with her mother &#8212; he was, of course, in the middle of a messy divorce [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mormon Heretic&#8217;s <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/06/29/a-horrific-tale-of-forgiveness/"> post on forgiveness</a> from a few weeks ago touched me deeply, but I needed time to get my thoughts together about it before I could respond.</p>
<p>I once had the neighbor from hell. I use the expression with theological intent.</p>
<p>Smart and relentlessly treacherous, he was somewhere on the spectrum from malignant narcissist to full-fledged sociopath, and I had no desire to observe closely enough to find out where. I do not know what horror had befallen him &#8212; if anything more significant than a stray cosmic ray hitting the genome at the wrong time &#8212; but he seemed to be without sincere empathy toward anyone. Worse, he seemed to have grown to love cruelty as the only thing giving meaning to his life. He was Jack Nicholson as the Joker: &#8220;So many people to hurt, so little time!&#8221; If he was not planning or executing some plot against one person, it was because he was busy with a more hated target.</p>
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<p>Our family&#8217;s first hostile contact with this guy arose innocently enough. His daughter had a cat. When his daughter was living with her mother &#8212; he was, of course, in the middle of a messy divorce &#8212; he left it outside in the cold and wet and the hot and dry. My wife, not wanting the cat to suffer, began putting out a bowl of water on our porch in the heat, and a little food and a towel for the cat to shelter under in the cold. Polite suggestions to him that leaving the cat outside wasn&#8217;t a good idea led to several conflicted stories about why it was all right, but a clear acknowledgement that the cat was, indeed, his responsibility.</p>
<p>And then, after this had gone on for several months, a middle-aged oriental woman, not speaking English very well, appeared at our door one evening. She asked us if the cat then lurking behind our front bushes belonged to our neighbor, and my wife innocently and honestly answered yes.</p>
<p>And with that simple act, we moved unexpectedly from peace to a full-scale personal war in which our spiritual and emotional health and livelihood was directly threatened.</p>
<p>The woman had purchased the property from a military doctor and his wife when they transferred out of state to a new assignment. She had invested  her savings to make the buy, and then rented the property to our neighbor through an agency. Home prices in our county had been exploding, and she hoped to make a good profit from her investment. Instead, she found a nightmare.</p>
<p>In the year he&#8217;d been there, he&#8217;d managed to find some loophole each month to avoid paying a cent of rent. County codes here are built more to protect immigrant tenants from slumlords; they really were not designed with what an immoral tenant could do to an immigrant landlord in mind. Heating and cooling systems or plumbing would continually &#8220;break&#8221; &#8212; there were sometimes different heating companies called to the home for repairs on the same day, especially when the first arrivals found the systems to be working properly. He would call for repairs to be made, then deny access to the repairmen. On one occasion, I saw him demand reseeding of grass in his front yard for drainage, and then slip out to the yard that weekend and destroy the new turf.  On another, I saw him inspect a damaged fence, and then, rather than report it, hide the fact from the landlady until another month&#8217;s rent was due.</p>
<p>Now, burning through her savings for mortgage payments and repairs  with no end in sight, being harassed by the man by telephone and intimidated by him to the point she was afraid to come to the home without an escort, she saw a possible way to break the lease: it had a no-pet provision. And so she asked about the cat. We answered honestly &#8212; and then the neighbor came after us.</p>
<p>My wife had been supporting us by teaching individual piano students from our home for years, and had been the primary breadwinner since my heart attack. He filed complaints that what we were doing instead was a group studio in violation of zoning, and demanded we be shut down. He stole trash during the night and attempted to frame me for illegal dumping of medical waste. He attempted to intimidate parents from bringing children for lessons by rushing to the edge of our property and, without any explanation, taking pictures of the children, and then the license plates of their cars like they were drug dealers. Every night there was drilling into the walls between our homes  or hammering on them, and we never knew if or how he was trying to sabotage our systems. We spent thousands in legal fees just to protect ourselves.</p>
<p>As I began to ask myself who was this guy, and why was he doing this, I found in public legal records that he had a long record of defiance to authority, with a couple of dozen violations, including jail time, for various disputes with neighbors seemingly everywhere he&#8217;d lived since adulthood. Simultaneously with his dispute with us and the landlady, he was on trial for phone harassment of his wife, and in a domestic violence dispute with a girlfriend he&#8217;d been with less than a month. He sought out potential violations by other witnesses in the neighborhood (such as expired license plates), and threatened to expose them if they testified. He went after the Home Owners Association President, an African-American, by making racial slurs in the presence of her daughter. He went after the county enforcement officials and tried to get their bosses to fire them; he went after the lawyers for conflicts of interest; he tried to get judges removed from his trials. You get the point.</p>
<p>The pressure on us grew more dispiriting, or perhaps I should say <em>dark-spiriting</em>, as months went by with no resolution. And we found ourselves increasingly turning to prayer for deliverance, as we felt imprisoned in our own home, never knowing what we would have to defend against tomorrow. And, as necessary, we were indeed delivered. In a couple of cases, traps laid for us were thwarted by unlikely coincidences. But the darkness, though warded off, was <em>always</em> present.</p>
<p>And then, in one of those deep prayer experiences, I heard in my mind my <em>enemy&#8217;s</em> soul cry out in an agony to God to be delivered from the darkness that enveloped <em>him</em>. I do not believe his physical form recognized what his own spirit was doing; he seemed to love the darkness and would cling to his cellphone (from which he harassed victims) like it was a totem of power he could not be without for even a moment. But I heard the Holy Spirit answer: &#8220;He is <strong>forbidden</strong> to remain as he is.&#8221; And the word &#8220;forbidden&#8221; carried all of the undeniable weight of a requirement to choose salvation or doom.</p>
<p>A few days later, entirely unbidden, while I was still trying to understand in my own mind the previous experience,  I heard his soul cry out again that he would be lost. And equally unbidden, my own prayers suddenly changed.</p>
<p>Instead of praying that God would get this guy off my family&#8217;s back, I found myself praying that God would get that darkness off this guy&#8217;s back. Because I saw that there was truly a predator, and my neighbor was the unsuspecting prey. And I was weeping for him, and praying as hard and as intensely as I have ever prayed for anything in my life.</p>
<p>It was the first time in my life that I truly<em> loved</em> my enemy.  Not decided that someone wasn&#8217;t really my enemy (six months after he finally left the neighborhood, he came back to see if sabotage he&#8217;d previously prepared for the air conditioning unit had, in fact,  caused the system to fail, leaving new renters he&#8217;d never even met sweltering in a summer heat wave for two days). Not just trying to treat my enemy with justice. Not simply restraining my self-defense. For once, I knew what it meant to love an enemy, even knowing he would remain my enemy, and that the existing situation was <strong>forbidden</strong> to continue.</p>
<p>But why was it only &#8220;for once&#8221;? What makes it so hard for me &#8212; for us &#8212; to stay in the loving attitude that the fate of the soul of my enemy (let alone the soul of a stranger or a friend) is of eternal significance even if I must oppose that enemy with all my might?</p>
<p>That seems to be something to spend some time contemplating as we remember this weekend a day of great violence.</p>
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		<title>Unsolved Puzzle</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 10:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew S</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few years ago I wondered what it means to be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I wondered: is it ok if my testimony dwells down to, &#8220;I really don&#8217;t believe in all of this spiritual stuff, but from an organizational perspective, I believe that the church is great at moving and shaking&#8230;and it has moved and shaken me to be a better person&#8221;? I concluded that was not ok. A religion isn&#8217;t just a collection of practical life advice and a church isn&#8217;t just the hub to receive and practice such advice. It is a community of faith, belief, and hope. (And when one is differently directed in the latter aspects, the organizational stuff will often wreak havoc as well.) I realized that if I didn&#8217;t have those latter things (I don&#8217;t), then it wouldn&#8217;t make sense to do certain other things (e.g., keep pretending to have these things in order to &#8220;progress&#8221; in the priesthood, go on a mission, speak out publicly on behalf of the church, or, perhaps, even go to church.) &#8230;Yet, I guess you&#8217;d call me one of those guys who leaves the church but can&#8217;t leave it alone. [...]]]></description>
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<div class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 190px"><a href="http://www.jibble.org/impossible-sudoku/UNSOLVABLE-1.png"><img src="http://www.jibble.org/impossible-sudoku/UNSOLVABLE-1.png" alt="impossible sudoku" width="180" height="180" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Can you solve this?</p></div>
<p>A few years ago I wondered what it means to be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.</p>
<p>I wondered: is it ok if my testimony dwells down to, &#8220;I really don&#8217;t believe in all of this spiritual stuff, but from an organizational perspective, I believe that the church is great at moving and shaking&#8230;and <a href="http://irresistibledisgrace.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/i-dont-want-my-money-back/">it has moved and shaken <em>me</em></a> to be a better person&#8221;?</p>
<p>I concluded that was not ok. A religion isn&#8217;t just a collection of practical life advice and a church isn&#8217;t just the hub to receive and practice such advice. It is a community of <em>faith</em>, <em>belief,</em> and <em>hope</em>. (And when one is differently directed in the latter aspects, the organizational stuff will often wreak havoc as well.)</p>
<p>I realized that if I didn&#8217;t have those latter things (I don&#8217;t), then it wouldn&#8217;t make sense to do certain other things (e.g., keep pretending to have these things in order to &#8220;progress&#8221; in the priesthood, go on a mission, speak out publicly on behalf of the church, or, perhaps, even go to church.)</p>
<p>&#8230;Yet, I guess you&#8217;d call me one of those guys who leaves the church but can&#8217;t leave it alone.</p>
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<p>You see, there are several unsolved puzzles that I feel I just can&#8217;t drop.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t drop that the vast majority of the human race has no idea about what I&#8217;m talking, and that I have no idea about what the vast majority of the human race is talking. I can&#8217;t ignore that there is a deep difference between most of you and me.</p>
<p>For me, speaking about God is an academic thing. It is like analyzing a piece of fiction. Sometimes, I&#8217;m bored with the novel. I don&#8217;t get the poetry. Sometimes, it&#8217;s kinda neat and inspiring, and I like the special effects from the movie or the play.</p>
<p>But at the end of the day, it feels like we are talking about an artificiality distinct and separate from reality. That&#8217;s how it feels like to me.</p>
<p>Praying is even worse. It&#8217;s like when you send an email to a bad address, but unlike email, <em>I don&#8217;t get a bounceback email</em>. So I have to wonder if there was a destination, if it even reached, if the return mail is coming back, if there <em>is</em> any return mail. It&#8217;s not a totally productive use of time.</p>
<p>But&#8230;that&#8217;s not how it feels like to most other people, is it? For most other people, the reason they talk about God (even if they differ on who or what God is, what is his [or her {or its}] number, gender, or personality) is because God is real to them. In fact, God is <a href="http://youngstranger.blogspot.com/2010/01/my-testimony-of-christ.html">more real than the physical world you and I live and breathe and move in</a>. It may not be as extreme as that, but somehow, I don&#8217;t believe most people are &#8220;playing&#8221; religion.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t get that. Not even in the slightest.</p>
<p>I know some atheists wave this off and wave this away, but whether out of charity and respect or out of sheer necessity, I cannot. This doesn&#8217;t mean I believe in these stories and experiences any more, but that this is one puzzle that is wanting of a solution.</p>
<p>In a way, the reason I am involved in the Mormon community (in the tenuous, <a href="http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/09/01/the-bloggernacle-wont-save-you/">will-not-save-me</a> <a href="http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1208#comment-91101">I&#8217;m-cheating-myself-by-using-it-as-a-ward-substitute</a> online bloggernacle way) is because Mormonism continues to be so unfamiliar to me, even though it is really familiar to me.</p>
<p>The forty-sixth section of the Doctrine and Covenants (let us call it <a href="http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/08/02/dc-section-names/">The People</a>) elaborates a lot about spiritual gifts. Most times, people only mention <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/46/11-14#11">a couple</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>11  For all have not every gift given unto them; for there are many gifts, and to every man is given a gift by the Spirit of God.</p>
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<div>12  To some is given one, and to some is given another, that all may be profited thereby.</div>
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<div>13  To some it is given by the Holy Ghost to know that Jesus Christ is the  Son of God, and that he was crucified for the sins of the world.</div>
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<div>14  To others it is given to believe on their words, that they also might have eternal life if they continue faithful.</div>
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<p>I think it is helpful to point out that certain things like <em>belief</em> itself may be <em>gifts</em>, instead of things that we can secure for ourselves or just &#8220;choose&#8221; to have if we just try harder. But these aren&#8217;t the only gifts possible, and the two gifts discussed in verses 13 and 14 are not a binary (i.e., if you don&#8217;t have knowledge, then it isn&#8217;t necessarily true that you will be able to believe on the words of others).</p>
<p>So what about those for whom it all just doesn&#8217;t make sense, doesn&#8217;t appeal, doesn&#8217;t seem real? Might we not also have eternal life&#8230;or is it all predicated on continuing faithfully? And then, what is continuing faithful? Is it going to church, even if one answers all the questions about belief in the negative, following commandments with which one may or may not agree, being alienated and alone, or perhaps even being excommunicated but still with stellar activity?</p>
<p>The earlier part of the section addresses a little on how church services and meetings should be held. This also has something interesting.</p>
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<div>5  And again I say unto you, ye shall not cast any out of your sacrament  meetings who are earnestly seeking the kingdom—I speak this concerning  those who are not of the church.</div>
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<div>6  And again I say unto you, concerning your confirmation meetings, that if  there be any that are not of the church, that are earnestly seeking  after the kingdom, ye shall not cast them out.</div>
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<p>Again, what does it mean to <em>earnestly seek the kingdom</em>?</p>
<p>I have no idea, but I need to get back to this puzzle I&#8217;ve been working on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>I Admire Faith</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Spector</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I admire faith I admire those who have faith. I admire those who have faith to believe I admire those who have faith in things hoped for, but not seen. I admire those who have faith in the face of  opposition and ridicule I admire those who have faith to stand up for what they believe is right. I admire those who have faith in something that on the surface seems impossible. I admire those who have faith in a story they read about and prayed about to know if it is true. I admire those who have faith in something that happened in a faraway place, but still have the faith to believe. I admire those who have the faith and the courage of their conviction to determine what isn’t working for them and to walk away. I admire those who have the faith to look their family, loved ones and friends in the eye and tell them it isn’t what they want. I admire those who have the faith to tell their family, loved ones and friends that it is what they want and need. I admire those who have the faith to figure out what is really [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admire faith</p>
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<p>I admire those who have faith.</p>
<p>I admire those who have faith to believe</p>
<p>I admire those who have faith in things hoped for, but not seen.</p>
<p>I admire those who have faith in the face of  opposition and ridicule</p>
<p>I admire those who have faith to stand up for what they believe is right.</p>
<p>I admire those who have faith in something that on the surface seems impossible.</p>
<p>I admire those who have faith in a story they read about and prayed about to know if it is true.</p>
<p>I admire those who have faith in something that happened in a faraway place, but still have the faith to believe.</p>
<p>I admire those who have the faith and the courage of their conviction to determine what isn’t working for them and to walk away.</p>
<p>I admire those who have the faith to look their family, loved ones and friends in the eye and tell them it isn’t what they want.</p>
<p>I admire those who have the faith to tell their family, loved ones and friends that it is what they want and need.</p>
<p>I admire those who have the faith to figure out what is really important and what is not.</p>
<p>I admire those who have the faith to fully embrace what they profess and live it.</p>
<p>I admire those who have faith to tell others about  they believe and why.</p>
<p>I admire those who have faith not to push it on them.</p>
<p>I admire those who have faith in themselves</p>
<p>I admire those who have faith in the Savior.</p>
<p>I admire those who have faith</p>
<p>I admire faith.</p>
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		<title>Religious Archaeology and Evidence</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mormon Heretic</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;d like to discuss both Biblical and Book of Mormon archaeology.  Most people believe the Bible is on solid archaeological footing, but that isn&#8217;t actually true.  Many books have questionable authorship, and many places remain unidentified.  In a previous post, I discussed Questions about the Exodus: there isn&#8217;t a shred of evidence that it actually happened.  During Passover celebrations in 2001, Rabbi David Wolpe created international headlines in Israel by proclaiming to his Jewish congregation in Los Angeles, “the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the way it happened, if it happened at all.” I&#8217;ve been listening to a podcast from Yale University discussing the Bible.  There are definite similarities between the Babylonian story of  Gilgamesh and the stories of Adam and Noah.  Some people, such as Bishop Rick, have said I think it is accurate to state that the flood story in the bible is both myth and a forgery. It is obviously a myth for reasons too numerous to mention here, but it is also copied from other cultures/religions, thus making it a forgery. It could very well be a myth.  While some scholars believe the story is a myth, National Geographic put together a documentary called &#8220;In Search [...]]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;d like to discuss both Biblical and Book of Mormon archaeology.  Most people believe the Bible is on solid archaeological footing, but that isn&#8217;t actually true.  Many books have questionable authorship, and many places remain unidentified.  In a previous post, I discussed <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2010/04/11/questions-about-the-exodus/">Questions about the Exodus</a>: there isn&#8217;t a shred of evidence that it actually happened.  During Passover celebrations in 2001, Rabbi David Wolpe created international headlines in Israel by proclaiming to his Jewish congregation in Los Angeles, “the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the way it happened, if it happened at all.”</p>
<p><img title="More..." src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" />I&#8217;ve been listening to a <a href="http://oyc.yale.edu/religious-studies/introduction-to-the-old-testament-hebrew-bible/" target="_blank">podcast from Yale University discussing the Bible</a>.  There are definite similarities between the Babylonian story of  Gilgamesh and the stories of Adam and Noah.  Some people, such as Bishop Rick, have said</p>
<blockquote><p>I think it is accurate to state that the flood story in the bible is both myth and a forgery. It is obviously a myth for reasons too numerous to mention here, but it is also copied from other cultures/religions, thus making it a forgery.<span id="more-12419"></span></p></blockquote>
<p>It could very well be a myth.  While some scholars believe the story is a myth, <a href="http://www.nationalgeographic.com/blacksea/ax/frame.html" target="_blank">National Geographic put together a documentary called &#8220;In Search for Noah&#8217;s Flood&#8221;</a>.  They discuss various flood stories, and make the case that a large, localized flood must have influenced these various cultures to write of this flood.  While there is no proof of a flood, it seems like a plausible explanation.</p>
<p>Recently I discussed a couple of sites in the Dead Sea region that <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2010/03/21/has-sodom-and-gomorrah-been-found/">some people believe are the sites of Sodom and Gomorrah</a>.  While some people love to claim the Bible is actually a collection of myths, Dr. Carole Fontaine of the Andover Newton Theological School said, “Archeologists often find themselves hooted and hollered out of town, when they first suggest things like, ‘I’ve found Troy, or look, we’ve found Sodom and Gomorrah.’  But history has shown that in fact, the more you dig, the more you find.  It’s amazing how accurate the Bible sometimes turns out to be.”</p>
<p>Speaking of hooting and hollering, John Hamer recently recorded a famous comment regarding Book of Mormon archaeology.  He said,</p>
<blockquote><p>The scholarly consensus on the alleged antiquity of the Book of Mormon was expressed way back in 1973 in Dialogue by Michael D. Coe, among the foremost Mayanist scholars, who wrote: “As far as I know there is not one professionally trained archaeologist, who is not a Mormon, who sees any scientific justification for believing the historicity of The Book of Mormon, and I would like to state that there are quite a few Mormon archaeologists who join this group”</p></blockquote>
<p>The best Book of mormon archaeological site seems to be Nahom.  <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/01/28/nahom-archeaological-evidence-of-book-of-mormon/">I&#8217;ve previously blogged about Nahom</a>, and Daniel C. Peterson called it a &#8220;bulls eye&#8221;.  In the video called<a href="http://store.fairlds.org/prod/p0934893039.html" target="_blank"> Journey of Faith</a> (distributed by FAIR), a few BYU scholars state,</p>
<blockquote><p>Daniel C. Peterson, Professor of Islamic Studies and Arabic, BYU, “The finding of Nahom strikes me as just a tremendously significant discovery.”</p>
<p>Noel B Reynolds, director of FARMS, BYU, “The gazetteers of Joseph Smith’s day listed no such place.”</p>
<p>Peterson, “What it really is, is a kind of prediction by the Book of Mormon, or something that we ought to find.”</p>
<p>William J Hamblin, Professor of Middle Eastern History, BYU, “Now the chances of finding that exact name from the exact time, in that exact place, by random chance, are just astronomical.”</p>
<p>Peterson, “And to find it in the right location, at the right time, is a really striking bulls eye for the book and there are those who say the book has no archeological substantiation. That’s a spectacular substantiation right there, it seems to me.  Something that would have been unexpected. It’s so unlikely that Joseph Smith could have woven into his story on his own.”</p>
<p>Hamblin, “The Book of Mormon has text, has made a complex prediction and modern archeology actually confirms that prediction.”</p>
<p>Peterson, “It’s a direct bulls-eye, as precise as you could wish it to be.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think non-Mormon scholars are as impressed with the site as Peterson, but non-Bible believing scholars aren&#8217;t impressed with Sodom and Gomorrah either.  So, must we always believe that lack of evidence argues against historicity of the Bible or Book or Mormon, or is there reason to believe that some of these stories that scholars call myths, forgeries, or pious frauds really might have some historical use?  Is it true that &#8220;the more you dig, the more you find?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Rules, Principles, Seeds &amp; Shells: Part II</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 10:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew S</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week, I began to sketch out the relationship between rules and principles. For the CliffNotes: faith is a process of applying correct beliefs that enlarge our souls and enlighten our minds. This application process is best analogized to the planting of a seed, where the seed is the Word (and the various beliefs, principles, and rules within). As we apply correct beliefs, the seed takes germinates, sprouts, and grows. What catches in our souls and minds, enlarging and exlightening them, is the true principle. Our goal is to get at true principles, but we are best able to seek after true principles when those principles are cultivated and reinforced through rules. However, if we lose sight of the principles for the rules, then our obedience becomes Pharisaical; we miss the point. As I mentioned last week, I think the seed analogy is powerful because how visual and universal it is. But another way that it is powerful is in its flexibility &#8212; we know quite a few things about seeds in reality that can be applied to the simile. What is the flexibility of an analogy of the scriptures being a seed? The issue is this: principles such as [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week, I began to <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/07/31/rules-principles-seeds-shells-part-i/">sketch out the relationship between rules and principles</a>. For the CliffNotes: faith is a process of applying correct beliefs that enlarge our souls and enlighten our minds. This application process is best analogized to the planting of a seed, where the seed is the Word (and the various beliefs, principles, and rules within). As we apply correct beliefs, the seed takes germinates, sprouts, and grows. What catches in our souls and minds, enlarging and exlightening them, is the <em>true principle</em>.</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://www.treehugger.com/jatropha-seed-sprout.jpg"><img class="aligncenter" src="http://www.treehugger.com/jatropha-seed-sprout.jpg" alt="seed sprout" width="300" height="284" /></a></p>
<p>Our goal is to get at true principles, but we are best able to seek after true principles when those principles are cultivated and reinforced through rules. However, if we lose sight of the principles for the rules, then our obedience becomes Pharisaical; we miss the point.</p>
<p>As I mentioned last week, I think the seed analogy is powerful because how visual and universal it is. But another way that it is powerful is in its flexibility &#8212; we know quite a few things about seeds in reality that can be applied to the simile. What is the flexibility of an analogy of the scriptures being a seed?</p>
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<p>The issue is this: principles such as <em>honesty</em> and <em>chastity</em> are general and universal. Rules such as the <em>Law of Chastity</em> are particular and specific. Sometimes, it seems like planting the word as a seed doesn&#8217;t work. Alma 32 assumes that the seed <em>will</em> grow for anyone. Yet, this isn&#8217;t always the case.</p>
<p>Different people are enticed by different philosophies, religions, and lifestyles. They are driven away by different philosophies, religions, and lifestyles as well. What does this do to our seed analogy?</p>
<p>Well, actually, the seed analogy is surprisingly robust for this case.</p>
<p>Firstly, within the seed are remarkable meters for temperature, moisture, light, and so on. Seeds germinate when these various factors are ideal and remain dormant until then. Similarly, proper application of scriptural precepts requires appropriate internal and external conditions.</p>
<p>Secondly (and much more obviously), there are several kinds of seeds in life. Each seed has the same kinds of parts, like the <em>embryo</em>, nutrients for the embryo, and the <em>coat</em> which shells around the seed. Yet seeds all basically work the same way ideally. They germinate, sprout, and grow. But beyond that, the seeds can look quite different and produce very different plants.</p>
<p>So then, shouldn&#8217;t we recognize that when Alma 32 refers to the Word as a seed, this does not mean there can&#8217;t be other seeds? And since living seeds all can germinate, sprout, and grow, doesn&#8217;t this mean that different spiritual seeds could enlarge the soul and enlighten the mind?</p>
<p>In the last post, I made an analogy to accounting standards (and traffic rules). This works well with this modified seed analogy. Believe it or not, but accounting isn&#8217;t this monolithic and universal structure. To the contrary, there are different accounting standards (as there are different tax codes). Just like there are different traffic rules and norms.</p>
<p>What does all this diversity mean? Does it mean everything is completely relative and there are no general principles to glean?</p>
<p>Actually, the diversity supports universal principles in each case. Different traffic rules are all different approaches that all try to reach the <em>same</em> goal of a safe driving experience for all. Different accounting standards are all different approaches that all try to reach the <em>same</em> goal of communicating economic decisions. And different religious, philosophical, and lifestyle codes are all different approaches that all try to reach the <em>same</em> set of principles.</p>
<p>We are often situated in a particular setting of rules, whether it be religious or legal. Most of the times, the rules that we have prime us well to seek true principles. Other times, we look to improve and build upon our rules (at least, that&#8217;s what Congress thinks it&#8217;s doing, right?). Nevertheless, we must always be looking out for the right <em>principles</em> &#8212; wherever they may be &#8212; that will truly enlarge our souls.</p>
<p>As Mormons we are encouraged to seek truth, wherever it may be found. But we also believe that our own tradition, by virtue of being led by prophets, seers, and revelators, contains that truth. May we then recognize truths that can be found universally through our own particular station.</p>
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		<title>things that scare you</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 09:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>AdamF</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The best advice I ever received was about a month into my mission. I was naturally struggling to learn the first few principles of the first discussion in Japanese, and struggling to stay interested every day in repeating the same brief sentence to everyone: &#8220;chotto ii desu ka?&#8221; (roughly, &#8220;Hi, do you have a minute?&#8221;). I met one day with my Zone Leader, who was short, with dark hair and huge hands. He was from Kentucky. We knelt down on the tatami mats and he asked me how things were going. I explained that I was really glad to be on my mission, but that I was struggling. His response was a little surprising, but I felt his love, concern, and caring: &#8220;You need to do things that scare you.&#8221; Somehow I managed to volunteer to speak in sacrament meeting the following week. All in nihongo, of course. That advice stayed with me throughout my mission and into the next phase of my life: During undergrad I took some acting classes, precisely because I am normally shy and introverted, and the thought of acting both excited and TERRIFIED me. After a rocky start, I loved it. Coming home from my [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/DSC01184.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-12337" title="DSC01184" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/DSC01184-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a>The best advice I ever received was about a month into my mission. I was naturally struggling to learn the first few principles of the first discussion in Japanese, and struggling to stay interested every day in repeating the same brief sentence to everyone: &#8220;chotto ii desu ka?&#8221; (roughly, &#8220;Hi, do you have a minute?&#8221;). I met one day with my Zone Leader, who was short, with dark hair and huge hands. He was from Kentucky. We knelt down on the tatami mats and he asked me how things were going. I explained that I was really glad to be on my mission, but that I was struggling. His response was a little surprising, but I felt his love, concern, and caring:</p>
<p>&#8220;You need to do things that scare you.&#8221;<span id="more-12265"></span></p>
<p>Somehow I managed to volunteer to speak in sacrament meeting the following week. <img title="More..." src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" />All in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_language" target="_blank">nihongo</a>, of course.</p>
<p>That advice stayed with me throughout my mission and into the next phase of my life:</p>
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<li>During undergrad I took some acting classes, precisely because I am normally shy and introverted, and the thought of acting both excited and TERRIFIED me. After a rocky start, I loved it.</li>
<li>Coming home from my mission I was at a book store and saw the book &#8220;The Places that Scare You&#8221; by Pema Chödrön. Of course, I bought it immediately. <img src='http://mormonmatters.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </li>
<li>I agreed to sing in a quartet in sacrament meeting a few years ago. I had never done this before (not in a small group, anyway).</li>
<li>I have two kids. The first time around was really scary. I love it now.</li>
<li>I turned down an offer to move back near family for the next round of grad school, for a slightly better (but who knows?) offer to move further away.</li>
<li>I started working with foster kids precisely because I had no desire to work with adolescents, and generally found them to be intimidating. Now I work with juvenile offenders who punch people and deal drugs and throw rocks at houses. It&#8217;s still a little scary, but I&#8217;m learning.</li>
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<p>In my life, I generally follow this principle &#8211; If something I know would be good for me also happens to scare me, I seek it out, I try to experience it. I owe much of my growth to that Zone Leader, on that morning in Japan, from a simple sentence, spoken with authority and love: &#8220;Do things that scare you.&#8221;</p>
<p>What was the best advice you ever received? What things scare you that you think you should probably do?</p>
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		<title>Rules, Principles, Seeds &amp; Shells, Part I</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2010/07/31/rules-principles-seeds-shells-part-i/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew S</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I sometimes wonder where the 32nd chapter of Alma would rank in a list of most iconic scriptures in the entire Book of Mormon. It comes up frequently in discussions, so I have plenty of times to revisit it. I think the reason for this is that it introduces a powerful image that &#8212; in every sense of the word &#8212; is planted within the mind&#8230;and sprouts.﻿ And so we start&#8230;with a single small seed. The seed is a versatile image and metaphor because it is the start of everything: the start of every life; the start of every endeavor; the start of every idea. The start of every being and the start of every becoming. The 32nd chapter of Alma talks about the Word being a seed, and from there we learn just what we can expect from a single seed. [Story 1] The Word is a seed that we must take the chance to plant first, and which, hopefully, if we do plant it, will germinate, sprout and grow, enlarging our souls and enlightening our minds. In my last post, commenter st1305 wrote that there cannot be faith in a false idea, because faith is not simply belief. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sometimes wonder where the 32nd chapter of Alma would rank in a list of most iconic scriptures in the entire Book of Mormon. It comes up frequently in discussions, so I have plenty of times to revisit it. I think the reason for this is that it <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/alma/32/28-35#28">introduces a powerful image that</a> &#8212; in every sense of the word &#8212; is planted within the mind&#8230;and sprouts.﻿ And so we start&#8230;with a single small seed.</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><img class="aligncenter" src="http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/organic-farming-5.jpg" alt="single seed" width="280" height="210" /></p>
<p>The seed is a versatile image and metaphor because it is the start of everything: the start of every life; the start of every endeavor; the start of every idea. The start of every being and the start of every becoming. The 32nd chapter of Alma talks about <strong>the Word</strong> being a seed, and from there we learn just what we can expect from a single seed.<span id="more-12321"></span></p>
<h4>[Story 1]</h4>
<p>The Word is a seed that we must take the chance to plant first, and which, hopefully, if we do plant it, will germinate, sprout and grow, enlarging our souls and enlightening our minds.</p>
<p>In my <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/07/24/doubting-my-doubts/">last post,</a> commenter st1305 wrote that there cannot be <em>faith</em> in a <em>false idea</em>, because faith is not simply belief. Faith, instead, is the application of a belief that enlarges the soul and enlightens the mind, as Alma 32: 34 and 35 also describe. A false idea, he argued, would not enlarge the soul and enlighten the mind. What <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/07/24/doubting-my-doubts/#comment-142662">st1305 wrote</a> was interesting:</p>
<blockquote><p>This is true for all of the other principles that I apply in my life –  chastity, honesty, integrity, temple work, missionary work and a host of  other principles in my faith. I know they are true as I have applied  them and I see the fruits and they are good.</p></blockquote>
<p>I saw a distinction between the ideas that st1305 was raising, however. <em>Principles</em> like honesty, integrity and service differ from ones like temple work or tithing in that the former are universal and general, but the latter are specific and particular implementations as found within the church. In some cases, they are <em>rules</em> that at best seek to capture a more general <em>principle</em>.</p>
<p>The LDS church does not have any sort of exclusive claim on a principle like chastity, even if they do have claims to particular stipulations of the <em>law of</em> chastity. But from here is the first question&#8230;what is it that enlarges our soul and enlightens our mind? The rule&#8230;or the principle?</p>
<p>I believe it is the principle. When we lose sight of the principles for rules, then our faith becomes Pharisaical. Hollow.</p>
<p>A dangerous new thought sprouted forth: wouldn&#8217;t we do best to focus on principles without relying so much on rules?</p>
<h4>[/Story 1]</h4>
<p>Any day now, America will (if the adoption date ever stops pushing back) migrate away from the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) that we have historically used to International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRS).</p>
<p>Supporters of IFRS argue that the change will increase comparability of financial statements &#8212; instead of comparing apples to oranges, we&#8217;ll all be comparing oranges. In addition, since IFRS is more <em>principles</em>-based, IFRS will not encourage abuse of the brightline rules that US GAAP has.</p>
<p>Let me try to explain the difference using a non-accounting example.</p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/speed-limit-40-sign.png"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-12322" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/speed-limit-40-sign.png" alt="Speed Limit 40" width="231" height="309" /></a></p>
<h4>[Story 2]</h4>
<p>When we drive, we operate under a basic principle: we want our driving experience to be safe. To satisfy this principle, we develop certain rules, such as the speed limit.</p>
<p>US GAAP sets clear and easy-to-understand (that is, &#8220;bright line&#8221;) speed limits with directly measurable values. A 40 mile per hour speed limit gives everyone a clear boundary &#8212; you can be ticketed for going over 40. Some cops may allow some higher speeds to slide, <em>but</em> if you get caught, the rules are clear.</p>
<p>Everyone is <em>justified</em> to go up to 40 mph, and can do so whenever possible with legal protection.</p>
<p>What could be bad about this? How could this <em>possibly</em> be abused? 40 miles per hour isn&#8217;t even <em>that</em> fast&#8230;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say that the speed limit is the ultimate rule for speed and you are driving in <em>terrible weather</em>. In this case, couldn&#8217;t you see how a simple, clear-cut rule could backfire and fail to establish our principle (and principal) goal of maintaining safety?</p>
<p>&#8230;Yet, creating exceptions for every occurrence would just create a tremendous driver&#8217;s manual (not to mention street signs!) In the case of accounting scandals, it wouldn&#8217;t even work to <em>prevent</em> frauds <em>before</em> they are perpetuated. New rules always are a step behind the crooks.</p>
<p>So what if instead we had no bright line speed limit numbers, but instead we were given the principle, &#8220;Drive safely given the environment&#8221;? This extreme case highlights the allure of IFRS.</p>
<p>Drivers wouldn&#8217;t have a rule to which they could hug close. However, rule enforcers also wouldn&#8217;t have a rule to which they could hug close. If a police officer disagreed with you on the optimally safe speed, you would have no bright line precedent of speed limit to back up <em>your</em> case.</p>
<p>In accounting, we have a bit of a different issue. Normally, in a court, you don&#8217;t easily win against a police officer. However, in a court, groups <em>can</em> win against the auditor. Additionally, auditors are hired <em>by the firms they audit</em>, so they have (at least) two incentives: 1) to make sure their clients stay in business and 2) to make decisions that are less likely to be challenged in courts. With clear-cut rules, the audit firm can at least defend its decisions both to clients and juries by saying, &#8220;We play according to the rules.&#8221; But without clear-cut rules, the courts do not have clear-cut rules with which to crucify (or protect), and auditors do not have the mechanism to challenge more fiscally aggressive clients.</p>
<p>So the big push <em>against</em> principles-based accounting is that it too does not prevent against fraud but instead gives ne&#8217;er-do-well executives even <strong>greater</strong> flexibility to report financial information aggressively. Ne&#8217;er-do-well execs can argue that really, 80 miles per hour is always safe, no matter the road conditions. In addition, supporters of GAAP note that the P in GAAP already <em>is</em> &#8220;principles,&#8221; and a balance of clear rules and principles (like the balance of speed limits <em>with</em> principles of safety in less-ideal conditions) is best.</p>
<h4>[/Story 2]</h4>
<h4>[Synthesis]</h4>
<p>When I thought about the audit and accounting example, I began to realize that the <strong>rules</strong> are valuable for inculcating the <strong>principles</strong>. Sure, sometimes they can be abused (our rules-based accounting did <em>not</em> prevent Enron, and in the aftermath, some <a href="http://www.bowne.com/securitiesconnect/details.asp?storyID=860">research has suggested</a> that technically, no violations of GAAP or auditing standards took place. Enron simply worked <em>creatively</em> and <em>aggressively</em> within the <em>legal boundaries</em>), but in this case we need to balance re-tweak rules for the sake of the principles, not eliminate one or the other.</p>
<h4>[/Synthesis]</h4>
<p>The next thing I thought about, as a result of thinking about accounting standards, is the fact that there are many sets of accounting standards seeking after the same principles. What comparison can we make with <em>seeds</em> and the Word? You&#8217;ll have to stay tuned for next week&#8217;s entry!</p>
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		<title>Songs That Touch Our Hearts</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since yesterday was Pioneer Day, I thought I&#8217;d share my thoughts on one of my favorite Pioneer Hymns.  Most of you are probably familiar with Come, Come Ye Saints.  It was one of my sister&#8217;s favorite songs, and she requested that it be played at her funeral.  While I always liked the song, I can rarely sing it without getting a bit emotional as I think of my sister. She was the oldest in my family.  My father was a convert, and always referred to her as &#8220;the pioneer&#8221; of the family.  Perhaps that is why she liked the song so much.  The last verse is the one that always causes me to think about my sister. And should we die before our journey&#8217;s through, Happy day! All is well! We then are free from toil and sorrow, too; With the just we shall dwell! But if our lives are spared again to see the Saints their rest obtain, Oh, how we&#8217;ll make this chorus swell- All is well! All is well! My sister died from a brain tumor.  She struggled through radiation and chemotherapy for nearly 2 years before succumbing.  I often feel like she died before her journey was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since yesterday was Pioneer Day, I thought I&#8217;d share my thoughts on one of my favorite Pioneer Hymns.  Most of you are probably familiar with<em> Come, Come Ye Saints</em>.  It was one of my sister&#8217;s favorite songs, and she requested that it be played at her funeral.  While I always liked the song, I can rarely sing it without getting a bit emotional as I think of my sister.</p>
<p><span id="more-12215"></span>She was the oldest in my family.  My father was a convert, and always referred to her as &#8220;the pioneer&#8221; of the family.  Perhaps that is why she liked the song so much.  The last verse is the one that always causes me to think about my sister.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>And should we die before our journey&#8217;s through,<br />
Happy day! All is well!<br />
We then are free from toil and sorrow, too;<br />
With the just we shall dwell!<br />
But if our lives are spared again to see the Saints their rest obtain,<br />
Oh, how we&#8217;ll make this chorus swell-<br />
All is well! All is well!</em></p></blockquote>
<p>My sister died from a brain tumor.  She struggled through radiation and chemotherapy for nearly 2 years before succumbing.  I often feel like she died before her journey was through, but I am glad she is free from toil and sorrow too.  I often wish her life was spared again, but it wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>She left behind 4 small children under the age of 10.  Three of them are in college now, and the other is a senior in high school.  They have coped very well, and are excellent people.</p>
<p>My brother died 4 years ago in a tragic auto accident.  He was about the same age as my sister when she died (36).  He also left behind 4 small children under the age of 7.  At the funeral, the closing song was &#8220;God Be With You Till We Meet Again.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can remember singing this song at the end of meetings, and thinking it was a nice song to end the meeting.  I planned on meeting everyone the next week at church again.  But when it was played at the funeral, it took on a whole new meaning.  I usually can&#8217;t sing the song anymore, but I love to listen to it.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>God be with you till we meet again;<br />
By His counsels guide, uphold you,<br />
With His sheep securely fold you;<br />
God be with you till we meet again.</em></p>
<p><em>Refrain</em></p>
<p><em>Till we meet, till we meet,<br />
Till we meet at Jesus’ feet;<br />
Till we meet, till we meet,<br />
God be with you till we meet again.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see my brother again.  So, what are some songs that touch your heart?</p>
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		<title>Faith, Knowledge, Belief, and Stochastic Theory Part 4: Finding Truth &#8211; An Optimization Problem</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In part two of this series I discussed Bayesian inference. Specifically, I discussed how Bayesian inference provided us with a mechanism for deciding in what we should place our confidence given all the information we possess and will yet obtain. This was all framed in the context of confidence. I&#8217;d like to discuss an alternative way of looking at Bayesian inference &#8211; namely optimization. Optimization Optimization largely rules our world. Virtually all of management, engineering, politics, and much of science is about optimization. Optimization, in this sense, is the process of determining the optimal solution given all the objectives and constraints. In management, the process may not be that formal. Perhaps there is a board of directors who gather around a table to discuss the optimal set of policies, the direction to go, etc. In politics it is likely similar. The President of the U.S. surrounds himself with experts on a particular topic, they then engage in discussion, and hope to land on the optimal answer given the objectives and constraints. For engineers the process is much more formal and precise. Usually optimization takes the form of a cost function &#8211; a function incorporating, mathematically, all the objectives and constraints. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/06/18/faith-knowledge-belief-and-stochastic-theory-part-2-inductive-reasoning/">part two</a> of this series I discussed Bayesian inference.  Specifically, I discussed how Bayesian inference provided us with a mechanism for deciding in what we should place our confidence given all the information we possess and will yet obtain.  This was all framed in the context of confidence.  I&#8217;d like to discuss an alternative way of looking at Bayesian inference &#8211; namely optimization.<span id="more-11861"></span></p>
<h4>Optimization</h4>
<p>Optimization largely rules our world.  Virtually all of management, engineering, politics, and much of science is about optimization.  Optimization, in this sense, is the process of determining the optimal solution given all the objectives and constraints.  In management, the process may not be that formal.  Perhaps there is a board of directors who gather around a table to discuss the optimal set of policies, the direction to go, etc.  In politics it is likely similar.  The President of the U.S. surrounds himself with experts on a particular topic, they then engage in discussion, and hope to land on the optimal answer given the objectives and constraints.</p>
<p>For engineers the process is much more formal and precise.  Usually optimization takes the form of a cost function &#8211; a function incorporating, mathematically, all the objectives and constraints.  An algorithm (and there are many) is then employed to &#8220;solve&#8221; the function resulting in the optimal solution.  To demonstrate, here&#8217;s an example:</p>
<p>Suppose you are designing an aircraft.  There are numerous design possibilities, a canard style, V-tail empennages, aspect ratio of the wings, length of fuselage, coating of the surfaces, wingtips, where to place the turbines, height of vertical stabilizer (if having one at all), etc. etc.  We would like to find the optimal answer amongst all these parameters such that we maximize lift, maximize cargo space, maximize safety, minimize energy consumption, etc.  Of course we also have constraints.  We cannot physically manufacture a flexible fixed wing that is 800 ft long and thin as a toothpick.  To solve the problem, we can write down a big, long, nasty equation that would mathematically characterize the physics, constraints, and objectives and then pick our favorite optimization algorithm and wait for it to churn out the answer (which may take a long time).</p>
<p>Bayesian inference is one algorithm that can be applied to such an optimization problem.  Typically one would choose this algorithm amidst a cost function that was stochastic in nature, having noise and/or error in the system, that expressed our confidence.</p>
<h4>Finding the Truth, Optimization Style</h4>
<p>In some sense, the Bayesian inference mechanism I discussed in previous posts could be seen as an optimization method for finding the truth.  If we assume that all the new information we regularly encounter has some (even if very little) truth therein, and we apply that information in the regular Bayesian inference sense, we could then reliably conclude that we have found the &#8220;truth,&#8221; with some probability (level of confidence), given all the information.</p>
<p>This is highly related to a comment FireTag made on my <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/06/23/faith-knowledge-belief-and-stochastic-theory-part-3-putting-it-all-together/">previous post</a>.  He asked</p>
<blockquote><p>So there are routes to evolve our beliefs toward truth no matter where we start or whatever the order of our search algorithm?</p></blockquote>
<p>In the context of this question, Bayesian inference can easily be seen as a search algorithm.  And, in fact, if we used a Sequential Monte Carlo method, it really does feel like a search algorithm.</p>
<p>In expanding this notion, my response, in part, was:</p>
<blockquote><p>Absolutely (at least in my book)! Though certainly some search algorithms are definitely worse than others and some starting places better than others! Otherwise what prayer in the world do we have (unless you&#8217;re absolutely certain that YOU&#8217;VE got it right, but I sure don&#8217;t)? I view my religion/spirituality as a compass that (I hope) points me in a good direction. My hope is that if/when the absolute truth is made manifest to me I will be humble enough (and my definition of humble is &#8220;openness to the truth&#8221;) to recognize it because/in spite of my current confidence distribution.</p></blockquote>
<p>From this perspective, we might view the church (or whatever church you belong to), the Gospel, this life, and all our associated experience as tools to help us optimize for, and draw nearer to the truth given the objectives and constraints of our personal limitations and the limitations of this mortal existence.  While I have encountered a very few number of Mormons who claim that we have ALL the truth, this is not the claim of the LDS church.  Most of us, I believe, accept there are things we don&#8217;t yet know and don&#8217;t yet understand.  The real challenge is to have an appropriate confidence distribution such that you will accept that truth when it is made known to you.</p>
<p>However, I finished my response to FireTag with the following:</p>
<blockquote><p>However, this really opens another can of worms &#8211; namely, what is truth? My explanation thus far has been about our perception of truth which may or may not correlate with objective or absolute truth. To argue over whether or not our perception of truth is objective truth is to argue over what forms of evidence are acceptable and what weight we should apply to that evidence (which is the conclusion of <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/06/23/faith-knowledge-belief-and-stochastic-theory-part-3-putting-it-all-together/">this post</a> and is an argument with no victor).</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Wandering Mormons as Nephites</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[More than two years ago, the Holy Spirit began insisting that I re-read the Book of Mormon. Of course, I didn’t immediately recognize the impulse as anything but a good idea originating within my own intellect. That’s what I do with anything – process it intellectually first. I knew spending more time reading scriptures would be the spiritual equivalent of walking more for my heart, so I put it on my to-do-list. You know all about the to-do-list that never seems to get any shorter because of emergencies and recurring requirements. So, re-reading the Book of Mormon stayed on the to-do list for a while. But then the press became more persistent and insistent: “No, you REALLY need to re-read the Book of Mormon,” and the very persistence began to get through my blocks of rationalization. So I kept moving it up the to-do-list until it was high among the emergencies and the recurring tasks, and I began to read. I had not gone cover-to-cover since I was in elementary school. I still have my first Book of Mormon given me as a baptism gift, and almost every verse in it is underlined: I didn’t know what went with what [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More than two years ago, the Holy Spirit began insisting that I re-read the Book of Mormon. Of course, I didn’t immediately recognize the impulse as anything but a good idea originating within my own intellect. That’s what I do with anything – process it intellectually first. I knew spending more time reading scriptures would be the spiritual equivalent of walking more for my heart, so I put it on my to-do-list. You know all about the to-do-list that never seems to get any shorter because of emergencies and recurring requirements.</p>
<p>So, re-reading the Book of Mormon stayed on the to-do list for a while. But then the press became more persistent and insistent: “No, you REALLY need to re-read the Book of Mormon,” and the very persistence began to get through my blocks of rationalization. So I kept moving it up the to-do-list until it was high among the emergencies and the recurring tasks, and I began to read.<span id="more-11666"></span></p>
<p>I had not gone cover-to-cover since I was in elementary school. I still have my first Book of Mormon given me as a baptism gift, and almost every verse in it is underlined: I didn’t know what went with what back then, and figured just about everything must be terribly important and interrelated. So I absorbed the story for a story important in my religion, and soaked up any theology unconsciously in the process. In the decades since, I used the Book of Mormon many times in preparing sermons; you preach a lot when you live in a denomination of mostly small congregations where priesthood is not the province of all worthy males. I taught many individual topics in classes or missionary efforts. I even had a few verbal jousts on my front steps with LDS missionaries before I learned that was fratricide that wasted everyone’s time. But the focus on the immediacy of my assigned tasks didn’t convey the global oversight of that first boyhood reading. In the later readings, I had the theology, both from the Book itself as well as from a deeper understanding of the other scriptural sources of Christian theology, but had lost track of the story as story.</p>
<p>From this perspective, as I began to read I began to understand overarching themes I’d missed before because they hadn’t been “on task”. Among them, I began in particular to see the books of 1<sup>st</sup> Nephi through the Words of Mormon as sort of an “old” Old Testament concerned with the overwhelming question of the first generations of Nephites: “Is there still a place for us with God?”</p>
<p>After all, in 600 BC, Judea <strong>was</strong> the “church”. You didn’t think of personal salvation outside of the structure of your Jewish tribal identity, and keeping the covenant kept your identity guaranteed by the only true God. I mean, look what had happened to the Northern Kingdom. Just gone! Conceptually to the Jews then, it didn’t matter whether individuals in the 10 tribes had been obedient or disobedient, just or unjust. The Kingdom  of Israel had been judged unworthy of God’s continued protection as a <strong>whole kingdom</strong>. The fate of the people as individuals simply was not a question that had any place in the mental landscape. What did God care about a just Assyrian or Egyptian compared to a Jew?</p>
<p>What does it do to your mental landscape, then, when God starts telling you that you are to leave your tribe, and you aren’t ever coming back? You are being further told that the tribe itself is about to be conquered and won’t be there if you do change your mind. You are amputating your culture, and you have little to replace it with, physically, mentally, emotionally, or spiritually. There is beyond the wilderness and the sea a “land of promise” to fill the physical hole, if you cling to your faith, but what replaces everything else?</p>
<p>Lehi and Nephi had their visions. They went, but you can see their frustration and anger at the Jews in their writings over the sheer stupidity of the disobedience of the covenant that was bringing the Babylonian disaster upon them. Laman and Lemuel turned their anger toward their father instead. Everybody was supposedly committed to going into the wilderness, but they all kept forgetting things (like wives) and finding reasons to have to go back to Jerusalem to get them. They seem to have been in shock. Stay! Go! Make up your mind!</p>
<p>And so the scriptures about the ultimate fate of Israel/Judea, as discussed by Isaiah or Zenos, become dominant concerns in this Book of Mormon “old” Old Testament. It is not an abstract theological debate to the Nephites; much of their personal focus and records are devoted to testifying that God has promised a reconnection of their seed (and even the seed of their rebellious Lamanite brethren) to the Israelites in a future time. Acceptance of Christ is seen as the means of this reconnection as well as the means of personal salvation. In fact, <strong>personal salvation</strong> is the newer, more revelatory concept which is increasingly emphasized as the story moves toward its historical climax. Even at the time of Christ’s appearance, this societal reconnection is on the minds of the people, and Christ takes time to reemphasize it along with his teachings about personal salvation. Indeed, “convincing of the Jew” of Christ’s divinity is as important as “convincing of the Gentiles”; the land of promise is not just a promise for the Nephites, but a means of keeping a promise by God for everyone else.</p>
<p>Many of those who come to this site feel either their “sense of the Spirit” or the “sense of their intellect” calling them into the “wilderness”. Whether it is because the church is not found to be as-advertised, because it changes too slowly, or because it changes too much, the shock and the anger are real and pretty much the same for all. They often no longer can support parts of the culture, but have nothing clear in their sights to replace it. They leave, miss something they left behind, go back, and try again to follow one direction or the other. Some fraction of them experience rejection by the community because they are perceived to be rejecting the norms of the community first. And sometimes they don&#8217;t know whether to be angry at others or ashamed of themselves.</p>
<p>They are reenacting this great dilemma of the early Nephites. How are they and their families to be connected to the purposes of God, when they have previously experienced their “tribe” as the only authorized means of connection? Yet, if the call is genuine, it will keep persisting and growing more insistent. There will be a land of promise for those who follow that call, and if the Nephite example holds, it will not just be a land of promise for those “wandering Mormons”. It will be a land of promise of those who come after them, and, in the long run, a blessing for the tribe they left behind as well. Experiencing being called into the wilderness isn’t a strange thing in Mormon history; it’s sort of what makes you one of the tribe in the first place.</p>
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		<title>The Fallibility of Infallibility</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Prophet Joseph Smith said “ … a prophet was a prophet only when he was acting as such.”  (History of the Church, Volume 5:265). This simple statement, made to a “brother and sister from Michigan” has invoked much discussion about when a prophet speaks for the Lord and when he is simply offering good advice. Latter-day Saints do not profess a belief in the infallibility of their leaders. President James E. Faust wrote this, “We make no claim of individual infallibility or perfection as the prophets, seers, and revelators. (James E. Faust, “Continuing Revelation,” Ensign, Aug 1996, 2).  And while the Church does not express that the leaders themselves are infallible like the Catholic doctrine of Papal Infallibility, there is an expectation they will lead us in the right direction according to the mind and will of the Lord and in harmony with the Scriptures. President Erza Taft Benson wrote, “The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.” (Ezra Taft Benson, “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet,” Tambuli, Jun 1981, 1). This was not a new concept originating with President, then Elder Benson. It has been taught since the days of Joseph Smith. But, how [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Prophet Joseph Smith said “ … a prophet was a prophet only when he was acting as such.”  (History of the Church, Volume 5:265). <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/first-presidency.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-2558" style="border: 3px solid black;margin: 3px" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/first-presidency.jpg" alt="" width="97" height="121" /></a>This simple statement, made to a “brother and sister from Michigan” has invoked much discussion about when a prophet speaks for the Lord and when he is simply offering good advice.</p>
<p><span id="more-11818"></span>Latter-day Saints do not profess a belief in the infallibility of their leaders. President James E. Faust wrote this, “We make no claim of individual infallibility or perfection as the prophets, seers, and revelators. (James E. Faust, “Continuing Revelation,” <em>Ensign</em>, Aug 1996, 2).  And while the Church does not express that the leaders themselves are infallible like the Catholic doctrine of Papal Infallibility, there is an expectation they will lead us in the right direction according to the mind and will of the Lord and in harmony with the Scriptures.</p>
<p>President Erza Taft Benson wrote, “<em>The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.” (</em>Ezra Taft Benson, “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet,” <em>Tambuli</em>, Jun 1981, 1). This was not a new concept originating with President, then Elder Benson. It has been taught since the days of Joseph Smith.</p>
<p>But, how do we know when we need to heed the words of the Prophet and when it is simply good advice and counsel.  Just when is a prophet acting as such?</p>
<p>The simple answer is that he is acting as a Prophet when moved upon by the Holy Ghost. “And whatsoever they shall speak when moved upon by the Holy Ghost shall be scripture, shall be the will of the Lord, shall be the mind of the Lord, shall be the word of the Lord, shall be the voice of the Lord, and the power of God unto salvation.” (Doctrine and Covenants 68:4)</p>
<p>However, how do WE know?  Again, the simple answer is in the same way. The Holy Ghost must testify to us of the truthfulness of the words spoken. Sounds simple enough?  It’s not.</p>
<p>For some of us, we struggle with this concept and its application. In some cases, we simply do not have the faith to believe. In other cases, we have not trained ourselves to hear that testimony. Perhaps in other cases, it just does not come. Maybe, it IS just good advice? Or maybe, it’s bad advice?</p>
<p>We are required to pray and ask for a confirmation of the truthfulness of the statements of the Prophets to us.  “But, behold, I say unto you, that you must study it out in your mind; then you must ask me if it be right, and if it is right I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you; therefore, you shall feel that it is right. “(Doctrine and Covenants Section 9:8).</p>
<p>Frankly, I’ve never had a burning in the bosom except for heartburn, but I also recognize that that expression is a metaphor for the feeling I do get when I’ve made that step or feel that I am under the influence of the Holy Ghost.</p>
<p>Some members do not need to make that step and receive confirmation. Perhaps, they receive an instantaneous witness of the truth. Or, perhaps they are acting as the President Brigham Young warned,</p>
<p>“I am more afraid that this people have so much confidence in their leaders that they will not inquire for themselves of God whether they are led by him. I am fearful they settle down in a state of blind self-security, trusting their eternal destiny in the hands of their leaders with a reckless confidence that in itself would thwart the purposes of God in their salvation, and weaken that influence they could give to their leaders, did they know for themselves, by the revelations of Jesus, that they are led in the right way. Let every man and woman know, by the whispering of the Spirit of God to themselves, whether their leaders are walking in the path the Lord dictates, or not” <em>(Discourses of Brigham Young,</em> sel. John A. Widtsoe [1941], 135).</p>
<p>And yet, while we have many members of the Church who would blindly follow their leaders without inquiring of God for themselves, they are also more willing to overlook individual foibles of the same leaders, past and present.</p>
<p>The polygamy practices of Joseph Smith, the past racist statements of some Church Leaders, and the inconsistent telling of Church History, to name a few, do not bother them.  They trust the explanation of the leaders and the Church.</p>
<p>On the other hand, there are those in the Church who are really bothered by those things, and seem to have a hard time reconciling the actions of those leaders with their prophetic mantle. In other words, if those leaders are so in tune with the Lord, they should have known better than to do and say those things?  Infallible?</p>
<p>Could it be that those members actually hold them to a higher standard than the rank and file member?</p>
<p>President Wilford Woodruff and others taught that the Lord would never let the Prophet lead the Church astray. I believe that. I also believe the members of the Church would also not permit it.</p>
<p>The Prophet is not infallible and we do not hold to that idea. He is a man, like every other man, imperfect and capable of error.  We love him and sustain him and recognize his authority to counsel and instruct us, lead us and guide us.</p>
<p>We do not follow blindly, but ask for confirmation of the truthfulness of his words. We sometimes struggle with following that counsel, but hopefully, we are better off for it.</p>
<p><a href="http://broadcast.lds.org/churchmusic/MP3/1/2/words/110.mp3">Follow the Prophet</a></p>
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		<title>Faith, Knowledge, Belief and Stochastic Theory Part 3: Putting It All Together</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In part one I introduced the problem I see with our current understanding of faith, introduced some basic statistics, and weakly drew a comparison to faith. In part two I introduced deductive and inductive reasoning, and showed how Bayesian inference leads to good inductive reasoning. I also gave a brief example of how this might work in real life. In this post I would like to put all these concepts together into at least one way of viewing faith, knowledge, and belief. I will do this by examining the plausible reasoning of three individuals: a stereotypical believing Mormon, a Mormon convert, and a disaffected Mormon. As a disclaimer my intent is not to say this is how all such individuals think or act, only how they might think or act. I also want to clearly state that I do not think one is better than the others &#8211; rather, I think they all follow the same model. The Convert John is a member of another Christian denomination and he was raised as a believer. He has had one discussion with the LDS missionaries and plans to continue these discussions. In the first discussion the missionaries built on common beliefs with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/06/09/faith-knowledge-belief-and-stochastic-theory-part-1/">part one</a> I introduced the problem I see with our current understanding of faith, introduced some basic statistics, and weakly drew a comparison to faith.  In  <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/06/18/faith-knowledge-belief-and-stochastic-theory-part-2-inductive-reasoning/">part two</a> I introduced deductive and inductive reasoning, and showed how Bayesian inference leads to good inductive reasoning.  I also gave a brief example of how this might work in real life.  In this post I would like to put all these concepts together into at least one way of viewing faith, knowledge, and belief.  I will do this by examining the plausible reasoning of three individuals: a stereotypical believing Mormon, a Mormon convert, and a disaffected Mormon.  As a disclaimer my intent is not to say this is how all such individuals think or act, only how they <em>might</em> think or act.  I also want to clearly state that I do not think one is better than the others &#8211; rather, I think they all follow the same model.<span id="more-11797"></span></p>
<h4>The Convert</h4>
<p>John is a member of another Christian denomination and  he was raised as a believer.  He has had one discussion with the LDS missionaries and plans to continue these discussions.  In the first discussion the missionaries built on common beliefs with John and challenged him to read a few verses in The Book of Mormon and to pray over them.  They read Moroni 10:3-5 in which the Lord, through his prophet, provides a recipe for confirmation of the truthfulness of the message taught.  John takes this seriously and reads the verses and prays over them.  He also has a strong spiritual manifestation.  He feels peace, warmth, and what he interprets as an assurance from the Holy Spirit that the message is true.</p>
<p>For John, he has had a number of spiritual manifestations and hence accepts this form of gaining knowledge.  He has not had one quite this powerful before so he takes this manifestation as evidence that the LDS church is true.  In Bayesian terms, we might claim that John had a confidence distribution with a mean of &#8220;my Christian denomination is true&#8221; with a fairly large standard deviation (since he was open to other religious possibilities).  When he received this new piece of information (a spiritual manifestation of the truthfulness of the LDS message) he incorporated it into his confidence distribution.  This, along with further discussions from the missionaries is enough to shift his distribution to one with a mean of &#8220;the LDS church is the true church&#8221; with a fairly small standard deviation.</p>
<p>In this scenario there are some interesting things going on with regard to faith, knowledge, and belief.  John had &#8220;belief&#8221; enough to take a leap of &#8220;faith.&#8221;  In essence, he was testing the &#8220;tail ends&#8221; of his confidence distribution by examining a foreign concept.  In a Monte Carlo sense, his random walk was probing &#8220;less probable&#8221; areas of his distribution.  For John, he found some valuable information that he then used to modify that distribution.  It is easy to characterize his actions as &#8220;faith&#8221; as he probed heretofore untested waters.  His experience exemplifies the allegory of faith given in Alma 32.</p>
<h4>The Stereotypical Mormon</h4>
<p>Bill is a lifelong member of the LDS church.  He was raised in Salt Lake City and has been an obedient member of the church for all of his 39 years.  Bill has a strong testimony of the truthfulness of the Gospel and all of its core principles and doctrines.</p>
<p>Bill has had many experiences which he interprets as support for his view of the Gospel.  He has a successful career, a great family, good health, and an abundance of opportunities to serve which he attributes to his adherence to tithing, prayer, fasting, righteous living, and heeding the counsel of prophets.  Bill has so much confirming evidence of his life choices and beliefs that his confidence distribution has a mean of &#8220;the LDS church is the true church&#8221; with a very small standard deviation.  Bill acknowledges that others have some pieces of truth, but is grateful that he has the blessing of knowing the fulness.  Indeed, Bill claims he &#8220;knows&#8221; the Gospel is true.  He would live and die by this, and admits that nothing could persuade him otherwise.</p>
<p>In this scenario, faith, belief, and knowledge take on a bit different meaning.  Bill hasn&#8217;t really taken the same kind of &#8220;leap of faith&#8221; that John did.  He has put his beliefs to the test and received verification that they were correct.  While he has somewhat probed the less probable regions of his confidence (the tails of his distribution) he interprets the information as confirming his beliefs.  His confidence in his mean is so great it would be easy to classify Bill&#8217;s &#8220;faith&#8221; or &#8220;belief&#8221; as &#8220;knowledge&#8221; (which of course he does regularly at testimony meetings).  Each successive spiritual experience or life event, properly interpreted, only adds more information which confirms Bill&#8217;s knowledge.</p>
<h4>The Disaffected Mormon</h4>
<p>Fred is in the same boat as Bill.  He is a lifelong member of the LDS church, grew up in Salt Lake City, and did all he was asked to do.  However, about a year ago he encountered some individuals that posed challenging questions to his worldview.  Initially, Fred&#8217;s response was much like Bill&#8217;s, that is, he interpreted information to confirm his knowledge.  But eventually the information became so overwhelming that Fred had to concede he might not have it quite right.</p>
<p>Fred has also had many spiritual manifestations, but his probing into psychology convinces him that much of it can be explained by regular, well understood psychological phenomena.  Fred has also been richly &#8220;blessed&#8221; with a good career, great family, etc. but has to acknowledge that many non-Mormons have also been similarly blessed.  For Fred, his confidence distribution is beginning to change.  Each new piece of information, incorporated loosely via a built-in Bayesian inference calculator, shifts the distribution away from his mean of &#8220;the LDS church is the true church.&#8221;  Initially, the information only increases his standard deviation as he acknowledges truth in other places, but eventually his mean starts to shift as well when he examines what he considers to be the lack of evidence for the historicity of The Book of Mormon, the myriad conundrums in Church history, etc.  Most alarming for Fred is the feeling of betrayal by not realizing these things earlier in life which he attributes to white-washing by the LDS church.</p>
<p>In this scenario it would be easy to claim that &#8220;faith&#8221; is being destroyed.  I think this is erroneous.  Rather, I would say that &#8220;faith&#8221; is shifting.  Fred now has faith in other things, though admittedly less faith in the LDS church being the true church.  After a year of struggling, Fred admits he no longer has any confidence that the LDS church is the true church.</p>
<h4>Contrasting the Scenarios</h4>
<p>The commonalities between the scenarios are interesting.  Each individual is doing what he thinks is most probable.  John and Fred actually took a &#8220;leap of faith&#8221; to probe the less probable regions of their confidence distribution which turned up valuable information.  Additionally, since some previous experiences had modified their distribution, their built-in Bayesian inference calculator was perhaps more able to objectively incorporate the new information.  While Bill did occassionally probe the less probable regions of his distribution, the new information was interpreted to add more evidence to his beliefs.</p>
<p>This leads me to conclude that the biggest argument over &#8220;faith,&#8221; &#8220;belief,&#8221; and &#8220;knowledge,&#8221; actually has nothing to do with one&#8217;s &#8220;faithfulness&#8221; and everything to do with the quantity, types of, and weighting given to different types of evidence.  For John and Bill, spiritual manifestations are a perfectly valid form of evidence, perhaps even the most important kind, which they weight appropriately.  For Fred, this used to be the case, but as he discovered new information he had to modify his weightings, and began to reject some forms of evidence (spiritual manifestations) previously acceptable to him.</p>
<p>I subscribe to the &#8220;confidence distribution&#8221; model for understanding people&#8217;s beliefs, motivations, actions etc. because I believe it drives to the real issues which is what types of evidence are accepted by people, and what importance they place on that evidence.</p>
<p>This kind of reasoning also brings a different perspective to the word &#8220;doubt.&#8221;  We could say that Fred is &#8220;doubting&#8221; and couch this in negative terms, but I think a more appropriate characterization would be to admit that Fred now accepts other forms of evidence and hence his faith has shifted.  For Fred, he is being intellectually honest, as is Bill and John.  This doesn&#8217;t make one more faithful, or more spiritual than the others, just different!</p>
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		<title>Faith, Knowledge, Belief, and Stochastic Theory Part 2: Inductive Reasoning</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deductive reasoning is a form of reasoning in which the conclusion can be drawn directly from the premises. The idea is to show that the conclusion necessarily follows from the premises. For example: Bridges built using sound engineering principles are safe. The Bay Bridge was built using sound engineering principles. Therefore, the Bay Bridge was safe (at least when it was built). This form of reasoning is reliable, at least as far as logic goes, producing correct conclusions from the premises. In contrast, inductive reasoning is a form of reasoning in which the premises indicate some degree of support for the conclusion but which do not completely support it. For example: All bridges I have walked across have not fallen. Therefore all bridges are safe to walk across. This form of reasoning is unreliable in producing valid results. It is a logical fallacy. There are many forms that inductive reasoning can take; generalization, proof by analogy, causal inference, prediction, etc. These forms of inductive reasoning have different strengths and can provide a form of &#8220;information&#8221; that is most useful albeit simultaneously by themselves unreliable. There are people at both ends of the spectrum regarding inductive reasoning. Some people are all [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deductive reasoning is a form of reasoning in which the conclusion can be drawn directly from the premises.  The idea is to show that the conclusion <strong>necessarily follows</strong> from the premises.  For example:</p>
<blockquote><p>Bridges built using sound engineering principles are safe.  The Bay Bridge was built using sound engineering principles.  Therefore, the Bay Bridge was safe (at least when it was built).</p></blockquote>
<p>This form of reasoning is reliable, at least as far as logic goes, producing correct conclusions from the premises.<span id="more-11728"></span></p>
<p>In contrast, inductive reasoning is a form of reasoning in which the premises indicate some degree of support for the conclusion but which do not completely support it.  For example:</p>
<blockquote><p>All bridges I have walked across have not fallen.  Therefore all bridges are safe to walk across.</p></blockquote>
<p>This form of reasoning is unreliable in producing valid results.  It is a logical fallacy.  There are many forms that inductive reasoning can take; generalization, proof by analogy, causal inference, prediction, etc.  These forms of inductive reasoning have different strengths and can provide a form of &#8220;information&#8221; that is most useful albeit simultaneously by themselves unreliable.</p>
<p>There are people at both ends of the spectrum regarding inductive reasoning.  Some people are all too willing to throw out the premises since no conclusion can be reliably drawn.  These people ignore the &#8220;information&#8221; contained in the premises.  In &#8220;information theory&#8221; (a branch of stochastic theory), &#8220;entropy&#8221; (an uncertainty measure) is used to quantify how much &#8220;information&#8221; exists in a premise.  <strong>EVERYTHING</strong> has some amount of &#8220;information&#8221; even if it is very little.  On the other end of the spectrum are people all too eager to rely on inductive reasoning supposing they have made a fantastic argument all while ignoring the holes in their logic.  These people seem to assign <strong>WAY</strong> too much &#8220;information&#8221; to the premises.</p>
<p>Of the possible inductive reasoning techniques, Bayesian inference has become the most influential and reliable.  In fact, Bayesian inference continues to be extremely important and <strong>reliable</strong> particularly in fields of science and engineering in which a reliable conclusion is produced in the presence of noise and modeling error.</p>
<p>In my <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/06/09/faith-knowledge-belief-and-stochastic-theory-part-1/">previous post</a> I discussed why I feel faith is not well understood in Mormonism and why I think some knowledge of Bayesian probability, coupled with Bayesian inference does a good job of explaining what faith, knowledge, and belief are and how we can apply it in our lives.  In this post I will elaborate on Bayesian inference as a form of inductive reasoning and try to show how I believe it influences our faith, beliefs, and knowledge.</p>
<h4>Bayesian Inference</h4>
<p>Bayes&#8217; rule relates one conditional probability to its inverse through a prior and marginal probability (don&#8217;t worry this will become clear in a sec).  The formula is:<br />
[math]P(A|B)=\frac{P(B|A)P(A)}{P(B)}[/math]<br />
A conditional probability (i.e. [math]P(A|B)[/math]) is the probability of some event A given that B occurs.  This reads &#8220;probability of A given B.&#8221;  Explaining the formula:</p>
<ul>
<li>Let [math]A[/math] represent a new hypothesis</li>
<li>Let [math]B[/math] represent a new piece of evidence</li>
<li>[math]P(A|B)[/math] is the posterior probability (i.e. the probability we are interested in) and is the probability of our hypothesis given our new evidence</li>
<li>[math]P(B|A)[/math] is called the likelihood and is the inverse of what we actually want.  This is the probability of our evidence given our hypothesis</li>
<li>[math]P(A)[/math] is the prior (i.e. what we believe before we start)</li>
<li>[math]P(B)[/math] is the marginal probability and represents the probability of witnessing the evidence under all possible hypotheses</li>
</ul>
<p>There is also a form of Bayes&#8217; rule that works for PDFs and/or distributions as well.  It is a bit more difficult to follow but the idea is the same.</p>
<h4>A Simple Example</h4>
<p>A simple example from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_inference#Which_bowl_is_the_cookie_from.3F">Wikipedia</a> will help.</p>
<blockquote><p>To illustrate, suppose there are two full bowls of cookies. Bowl #1 has 10 chocolate chip and 30 plain cookies, while bowl #2 has 20 of each. Our friend Fred picks a bowl at random, and then picks a cookie at random. We may assume there is no reason to believe Fred treats one bowl differently from another, likewise for the cookies. The cookie turns out to be a plain one. How probable is it that Fred picked it out of bowl #1?</p>
<p>Intuitively, it seems clear that the answer should be more than a half, since there are more plain cookies in bowl #1. The precise answer is given by Bayes&#8217; theorem.  Let [math]H_1[/math] correspond to bowl #1, and [math]H_2[/math] to bowl #2.  It is given that the bowls are identical from Fred&#8217;s point of view, thus [math]P(H_1)=P(H_2)[/math], and the two must add up to 1, so both are equal to 0.5.  The event [math]E[/math] is the observation of a plain cookie.  From the contents of the bowls, we know that [math]P(E|H_1)=30/40=0.75[/math] and [math]P(E|H_2)=20/40=0.5[/math].  Bayes&#8217; formula then yields<br />
[math]P(H_1|E)=\frac{P(E|H_1)P(H_1)}{P(E|H_1)P(H_1)+P(E|H_2)P(H_2)}[/math]</p>
<p>[math]P(H_1|E)=\frac{0.75\times0.5}{0.75\times0.5+0.5\times0.5}[/math]</p>
<p>[math]P(H_1|E)=0.6[/math]<br />
Before we observed the cookie, the probability we assigned for Fred having chosen bowl #1 was the prior probability, [math]P(H_1)[/math], which was 0.5.  After observing the cookie, we must revise the probability to [math]P(H_1|E)[/math], which is 0.6.</p></blockquote>
<p>The most important part of this example is to note that there is information (in a stochastic sense) in the evidence that we observed that a plain cookie was drawn.  Bayesian inference gives us the tools necessary to characterize our belief about the bowl from which Fred picked the cookie.</p>
<h4>A Practical Example</h4>
<p>Let&#8217;s walk through a more practical and intuitive example to illustrate how this might relate to faith, knowledge, and belief.</p>
<p>Suppose Mary grows up in San Francisco, regularly traveling over the numerous bridges connecting the peninsula to the mainland.  She has traveled over these bridges numerous times.  She believes that these bridges were constructed using sound engineering principles.  She also believes that standards were in place to help guide the engineers in making good decisions.  She believes that steel is very strong, and that the materials used met some arbitrary specification for stress standards and strength.  She also believes there are some engineers who regularly inspect the bridge for weaknesses and problems and would alert her if necessary.</p>
<p>These are all fairly reasonable assumptions in our modern society, and we might easily say that Mary &#8220;knows&#8221; that if she goes across the Golden Gate today that the bridge will not collapse.  In this regard it likely takes little &#8220;faith&#8221; for her to go across the bridge.  She doesn&#8217;t have to take a &#8220;mighty leap&#8221; as it were.  She doesn&#8217;t grow spiritually by exercising this faith/knowledge to cross the bridge.  Nevertheless, it is clear to everyone (I hope) that Mary, in fact, does not &#8220;know&#8221; that the bridge is safe.  There is no way she can know.  All she could say is that she knows that the last time she crossed the bridge it did not collapse.</p>
<p>In terms of my last post, we might say that Mary&#8217;s confidence distribution has a mean of &#8220;the bridge is safe&#8221; with a very very small standard deviation.</p>
<p>Now, let us suppose that one day Mary goes across the Bay Bridge (which is and probably will be forever under construction) and part of the bridge collapses.  Fortunately, Mary is on the part of the bridge that remains safe.  But she witnesses the tragedy, including the loss of many lives.</p>
<p>The question is, what information is contained in this observation and how should it effect Mary&#8217;s confidence/knowledge/belief/faith in her frequent bridge crossing?  The conclusion is very difficult.  If we use inductive reasoning we might say:</p>
<blockquote><p>All bridges built using sound engineering principles will not collapse.  The Bay Bridge collapsed.  Therefore, all bridges are not safe.</p></blockquote>
<p>Although this conclusion feels like a real stretch, if we place ourselves in Mary&#8217;s shoes it might seem like a reasonable conclusion given the fear associated with witnessing the collapse of a bridge.  From Mary&#8217;s perspective, from a Bayesian point of view, the evidence she saw was so overwhelming, and she inappropriately placed such great weight on it, that the mean and standard deviation of her confidence distribution shifted wildly.  At this point, her mean has likely shifted to &#8220;all bridges are not safe&#8221; with a very small standard deviation.  Now, it does take a &#8220;mighty leap&#8221; of faith for Mary to cross the bridge, and she may grow spiritually/emotionally by taking that leap.</p>
<p>Of course to a third party concerned relative this conclusion is completely unreasonable.  We can poke holes in her reasoning all day long.  Just because the Bay Bridge collapsed doesn&#8217;t mean another will.  Just because the Bay Bridge collapsed doesn&#8217;t mean engineering principles are invalid.  We don&#8217;t even know the cause of the collapse.  Just because the Bay Bridge collapsed doesn&#8217;t mean the system of inspecting bridges is broken.  The list could go on and on.  From our perspective, we might say that Mary&#8217;s confidence distribution shouldn&#8217;t change at all!  But that would ignore the information contained in the observation and/or assign far too little weight to it.</p>
<p>The right answer is to acknowledge the information contained in the observation and assign the appropriate weight to it.  Obviously this is a completely arbitrary and subjective exercise.  Who is to say what the right weight is?  Who is to say what the appropriate measure of information is?  Bayesian inference gives us the tools to analyze the problem <strong>but it does nothing to help us know how to characterize the evidence and assign appropriate weight to our evidence</strong>.</p>
<h4>The Application to Faith in Mormonism</h4>
<p>Since this post is already too long, I&#8217;ll only weakly apply this to faith and save a more in depth analysis for my next post (though I think if you give it some thought the connections are readily apparent).</p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/faith_butter1.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-11740" title="faith_butter" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/faith_butter1-300x130.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="130" /></a>Bayesian inference can be a valuable tool for helping us understand how to apply evidence into our confidence distribution for a specific hypothesis.  &#8220;Faith,&#8221; &#8220;knowledge,&#8221; &#8220;belief,&#8221; etc. are measures of confidence from which we conclude that we will perform various actions.  The real question regarding our &#8220;faith&#8221; is what weight we apply to various kinds of evidence.  How it effects our confidence distribution is very simply described using Bayes&#8217; rule.</p>
<p>For most members of the church, spiritual manifestations are a critical piece of evidence that validate their beliefs.  They therefore place high weights on those pieces of evidence, giving them a mean of &#8220;the LDS church is true&#8221; with a very low standard deviation.  For others, spiritual manifestations may be too wrapped up in psychology, emotions, etc. to be reliable.  Hence they place low weight on such evidence and although they may have the same mean, they may have a larger standard deviation on their confidence.  Those who experience disaffection may throw the &#8220;baby out with the bathwater&#8221; and dismiss the experience altogether, eventually allowing their mean to shift to &#8220;the LDS church is NOT true&#8221; with a low standard deviation.</p>
<p>Humans have a very good Bayesian inference mechanism built right into their intelligence.  We can perform Bayes&#8217; rule calculations internally with very little effort and often very appropriately draw good conclusions amidst a plethora of evidence particularly when we have no psychological attachment to the outcome.  But when we do have psychological attachment, it becomes VERY VERY difficult to not allow the internal Bayesian inference mechanism to become biased.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Faith has always been a perplexing topic for me. The definitions we hear in church, and in the scriptures seem to come up short. Furthermore, faith is almost always accompanied by a discussion of knowledge and belief. But faith is generally what is defined in the scriptures, and we typically just accept the colloquial meanings of knowledge and belief. Our Concept of Faith We typically turn to two scriptural sources for understanding faith. In Hebrews 11:1 we read: Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Additionally, in Alma 32:21 it says: And now as I said concerning faith &#8211; faith is not to have a perfect knowledge of things; therefore if ye have faith ye hope for things which are not seen, which are true. In Mormonism I think we have a hard time reconciling faith in large part because of our scriptures coupled with the &#8220;faith&#8221; it requires to believe our foundational truth claims. For example, why doesn&#8217;t God just come down to all of us and show us an &#8220;unmistakable witness&#8221; such that everyone &#8220;knows&#8221; beyond doubt that he is God? Furthermore, rather than a prophet expounding God&#8217;s plan, he [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faith has always been a perplexing topic for me.  The definitions we hear in church, and in the scriptures seem to come up short.  Furthermore, faith is almost always accompanied by a discussion of knowledge and belief.  But faith is generally what is defined in the scriptures, and we typically just accept the colloquial meanings of knowledge and belief.<span id="more-11569"></span></p>
<h4>Our Concept of Faith</h4>
<p>We typically turn to two scriptural sources for understanding faith.  In Hebrews 11:1 we read:</p>
<blockquote><p>Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.</p></blockquote>
<p>Additionally, in Alma 32:21 it says:</p>
<blockquote><p>And now as I said concerning faith &#8211; faith is not to have a perfect knowledge of things; therefore if ye have faith ye hope for things which are not seen, which are true.</p></blockquote>
<p>In Mormonism I think we have a hard time reconciling faith in large part because of our scriptures coupled with the &#8220;faith&#8221; it requires to believe our foundational truth claims.  For example, why doesn&#8217;t God just come down to all of us and show us an &#8220;unmistakable witness&#8221; such that everyone &#8220;knows&#8221; beyond doubt that he is God?  Furthermore, rather than a prophet expounding God&#8217;s plan, he himself could give it to us so we &#8220;knew&#8221; it came from him.  From The Book of Mormon we have several examples where such &#8220;knowledge&#8221; was quickly turned to doubt and sin.  We use these examples to show that such &#8220;knowledge&#8221; doesn&#8217;t produce the faith required for salvation.  Many Mormons will argue that if such manifestations occurred it would be too easy to &#8220;know&#8221; the truth and faith would no longer be required (which we know is unacceptable since faith is required for salvation).  As a sidenote, I&#8217;d like to point out the irony that most members &#8220;know&#8221; the church to be true, which, according to this reasoning means faith is no longer required for most members.</p>
<p>This feels tragically flawed to me.  Did Joseph Smith have faith?  I think so, yet he ostensibly saw God and Jesus Christ many times and surely &#8220;knew&#8221; beyond a reasonable doubt that they existed.  Was Joseph somehow at a disadvantage because he had actually seen God?  Was his faith destroyed by his &#8220;knowledge&#8221;?  Why was Joseph&#8217;s vision acceptable, not destroying his faith, but a &#8220;sign&#8221; would not be acceptable because it would destroy faith?</p>
<p>The situation gets even worse.  When someone expresses doubt in the church&#8217;s truth claims, they are often labeled as lacking faith.  This may feel (to the doubtful individual) like an accusation of being too weak to accept things on faith.  Or perhaps that the individual must check their logic and reasoning at the door in order to have the faith necessary for salvation.  It marginalizes those who have different thresholds of faith, belief, and knowledge, and elevates those who have faith no matter how ridiculous the claims may be.  This type of sentiment may also be responsible for the cultural notion that the widow who sacrifices her last dollar to tithing, rather than buying food for her children is somehow more righteous/spiritual/faithful than one who would not.  Examples of faith are couched in terms of individuals who appear to act irrationally to a non-LDS third party observer.</p>
<h4>Stochastic Processes</h4>
<p>Stochastic processes are processes that are non-deterministic.  In other words, they are random, or based on probability theory.  To fully elaborate on this theory we need some definitions (I apologize to the mathematics averse, but please bear with me as it will give us some powerful tools to discuss some very important topics):</p>
<ul>
<li>Random variable: a random variable is neither random, nor a variable (crazy I know).  Rather it is a function (a mathematical function).  A random variable maps the possible outcomes of a random event to a set of unique numerical values.  For example, a random variable for a fair two-sided coin might be X=1 (if heads), 0 (if tails).</li>
<li>Probability Density Function (PDF): the probability density function describes the relative likelihood for the outcomes of a particular random variable.  An example of this could be a regular &#8220;bell curve&#8221; distribution describing how a group of students performed on a test.  We may also refer (with an abuse of notation) to a PDF as a distribution.  (NOTE: for the mathematically inclined, I am intentionally blurring the lines between discrete and continuous random variables.  Additionally, for simplicity sake I am merging the concepts of probability density function and probability distribution, though they are in fact different)</li>
<li>Frequentists: frequentists interpret probability as a measure of probability of an event in a large number of trials.  For example, if I tell the frequentist that the probability of landing on either heads or tails of a fair two-sided coin are 1/2 the frequentist may reason as follows: since the probability of landing on either heads or tails is 1/2, that means if we toss a coin a certain number of times, I expect that half the time it will land on heads, and the other half on tails.</li>
<li>Bayesians: bayesians interpret probability in a more subjective manner using probability as a measure of personal confidence.  If I tell the bayesian the same information he/she may reason as follows: since the probability of landing on either heads or tails is 1/2, and I had to place a bet on what the outcome of one specific coin toss might be, I have no reason to have more confidence in the coin landing on one side over the other.  Therefore placing my bet on heads is just as good as tails.</li>
<li>Let A be an event or outcome (doesn&#8217;t matter what it is), P(A) is the probability of said event occurring.</li>
<li>Mean (describes a PDF or distribution): let us loosely define this to be &#8220;the most probable event or outcome.&#8221;  It could also be simply an arithmetic average, but the first definition is better for my purposes.  In reality, the mean is the expected value of the random variable where expected value has a precise mathematical meaning analogous to the concept of the center of mass in classical mechanics.</li>
<li>Standard deviation (describes a PDF or distribution): let us loosely<img class="size-full wp-image-11580 alignright" title="FileStandard deviation diagram" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/FileStandard-deviation-diagram.png" alt="" width="320" height="160" /> define standard deviation as the variability from the mean.  Often the standard deviation is an indication of how confident we should be in the mean.  The proper definition is the square root of variance.  Variance is the second central moment of a real-valued random variable.</li>
<li>A normal distribution (Gaussian distribution, or bell curve): a normal distribution is the one you are all most likely familiar with &#8211; a regular bell curve.</li>
<li>The prior distribution: our distribution of confidence before we add any data (may be a uniform distribution, indicating all things are equiprobable).</li>
<li>The posterior distribution: the distribution of confidence after accounting for all the data.</li>
</ul>
<h4>Using Stochastic Theory</h4>
<p>Stochastic theory allows us to quantify our uncertainty in various processes.  This relies heavily on the bayesian concept defined above (for now let&#8217;s forget about the frequentists).  Bayesians use probability to describe their confidence in a certain event or outcome.  Let&#8217;s walk through an example:</p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/test_scores_std_dev_2.png"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-11594" title="test_scores_std_dev_2" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/test_scores_std_dev_2-300x224.png" alt="" width="300" height="224" /></a>Let&#8217;s suppose I have a class of 30 students.  I am going to give them the same exam I gave a similar group of students 5 years ago.  From my previous class the results yielded a very nice bell curve (normal distribution) with a mean of 75% and a standard deviation of 2.  If I am to predict how well a single student will perform (ignoring all other extraneous information), I might say, with a fair amount of confidence, that the student will score a 75%.  The small standard deviation gives me this confidence.</p>
<p>Conversely, let&#8217;s consider the same scenario, only this time the previous results<a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/test_scores_std_dev_10.png"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-11595" title="test_scores_std_dev_10" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/test_scores_std_dev_10-300x225.png" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a>yielded a bell curve with a mean of 75% and a standard deviation of 10.  This time, I might be much less confident in predicting a student scores a 75%, but I still would predict a score of 75%.</p>
<p>We can see that a combination of the mean, and standard deviation, in this example, gives us a mechanism for predicting a student&#8217;s score as well as evidence for assessing our confidence in that prediction.</p>
<h4>Faith as Confidence</h4>
<p>The tools of stochastic theory give us a method of modeling and understanding our confidence in various outcomes or events.  I propose a new mechanism for understanding and discussing faith, knowledge, and belief &#8211; namely the bayesian notion of confidence.  I think this has several major advantages:</p>
<ul>
<li>It levels the playing field and creates understanding.  We no longer have to argue over the semantics of faith, knowledge, or belief.  We can shift the argument to what really matters &#8211; the evidence.</li>
<li>It admits all forms of &#8220;evidence&#8221; including personal spiritual manifestations and allows each individual to weight the evidence as he/she sees fit.  That &#8220;evidence&#8221; can then easily be incorporated into the confidence distribution.</li>
<li>It removes the tendency to label.  That is to say, it would be acknowledged that those who doubt truth claims have different weights attached to certain pieces of evidence.  We might argue over the proper weighting one ought to give to a certain piece of evidence, but one&#8217;s weighting does not make him or her more or less faithful, just different.</li>
<li>It is intuitively satisfying and generally describes human behavior.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m really elaborating on anything that most of you don&#8217;t already know or have thought about.  I&#8217;m just spelling it out more clearly and hopefully giving you some technical tools for visualizing it.</li>
<li>The only definition of irrational is not acting in accordance with one&#8217;s confidence.  Even those who act according to a &#8220;whisper from the Holy Ghost&#8221; against their better judgment are seen as rational since they clearly weight the &#8220;whisper from the Holy Ghost&#8221; more than their judgment.</li>
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<p>In part two of this post I will walk through an example of how I think this theory enlightens the faith discussion, levels the playing field, and accurately describes what we really mean when talking about faith, knowledge, and belief.</p>
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		<title>Then I Will Believe</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our guest post today is by SilverRain, who blogs at The Rains Came Down. When Jesus was suffering on the cross at Calvary, those who put Him there surrounded Him to mock Him. They jeered, “If [thou art] the King of Israel . . . come down from the cross, and we will believe . . . .” (Matt 27:42) I have emerged from the other end of a marriage that stripped me of my ability to trust myself. It is taking hard work to believe the things that I have survived. I have been accused of things I did not do in a court that seemed sympathetic to the other side. I have learned how to live with a measure of real and daily fear. I have witnessed almost every purpose of my life crumble in my hands. I have not, by any means, lived through the worst that life has to offer, but I have lived through my lot only to be confronted by those who cannot understand and so do not believe me. My faith has also been left exposed to the elements, raw and aching. I have difficulty knowing what to believe or what to do. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Our guest post today is by SilverRain, who blogs at </em><a href="http://rainscamedown.blogspot.com/"><em>The Rains Came Down</em></a><em>.</em></p>
<p>When Jesus was suffering on the cross at Calvary, those who put Him there surrounded Him to mock Him. They jeered, “If [thou art] the King of Israel . . . come down from the cross, and we will believe . . . .” (Matt 27:42)</p>
<p>I have emerged from the other end of a marriage that stripped me of my ability to trust myself. It is taking hard work to believe the things that I have survived. I have been accused of things I did not do in a court that seemed sympathetic to the other side. I have learned how to live with a measure of real and daily fear. I have witnessed almost every purpose of my life crumble in my hands. I have not, by any means, lived through the worst that life has to offer, but I have lived through my lot only to be confronted by those who cannot understand and so do not believe me.<span id="more-11455"></span><!--more--></p>
<p>My faith has also been left exposed to the elements, raw and aching. I have difficulty knowing what to believe or what to do. I have been confronted time after time with the choice to take the emotionally easy road, to accept what life is telling me, or to take a tiny, twisting and seemingly treacherous path without knowing for certain where I am going or if I can get there. So I think I understand a little better than I did those people who ask for proof.</p>
<p>I have noticed that sometimes those in scripture who ask for proof are given exactly what they ask for, such as <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/judg/4"></a>Barak with Deborah, the <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/hel/9/2#2">people of Zarahemla</a>, and the <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/alma/14/24#24">those of Ammonihah</a>, while <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/john/6/30#30">others</a> are <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/3_ne/26/9-10#9">left</a> to work out their uncertainty. Often, <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/1_ne/7/10#10">those</a> <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/3_ne/1/22#22">who</a> are given the sign they are seeking find that it doesn’t really change their opinions, in the end.</p>
<p>Perhaps the story of this type that I resonate best with is the tale of the <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/mark/9/24#24">man</a> with the palsied son. When told that his son could be healed if he believed, he cried to Jesus, saying, “Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief!”</p>
<p>Time upon time as I have found myself weeping bitterness into my abused pillow, I have cried these exact words in my heart, yearning to feel the fruits of my faith. I ache when I see so many people here on the Internet crying out because they have found themselves at a point in their lives when they just stop believing in the gospel as presented by the LDS Church. I ache because I have looked into that abyss myself, and felt its depths.</p>
<p>The classic analogy to illustrate how that feels is the scene from <em>Indiana Jones</em> when his father lays dying behind him and he is faced with a choice of faith: to walk into a seemingly bottomless chasm, or to turn around and let his father die. He makes that choice, and luckily it works for him. One thing that is poignant about that story is that he almost fully expected to die when he took that step, but he took it anyways because the alternative was worse.</p>
<p>To me, this is raw, living faith. Right now, I <em>am</em> standing at the other end of a failed marriage, and almost every one of the things I have dedicated my life to lie crumbled at my feet. But I don’t keep going to Church and praying with my Father in Heaven because I know that things will work out for me or because I feel as though who I am now has anything to do with the Church and my ward. I pray to my Father and continue going to Church because the alternative—to give up on my dreams and turn my back on what I know (and I do mean <em>know</em>)—is far, far worse.</p>
<p>I don’t know what my future will hold. I don’t know what my Father has in mind for me. But I know Him, and I choose, with eyes open and fear in my heart, to trust Him. I will not wait to believe.</p>
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		<title>Church history and our quest for the Great Mormon Novel</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 11:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About two years ago, Carter Hall wrote an article on this very site comparing and contrasting the types of heroes that Superman and Spiderman represent, noting the different cultural settings from which the two were born and, consequently, identifying different generational appeals to the different superheroes. As he wrote: Everyone knows Superman.  He is simply the most powerful superhero ever created.  Invulnerable to almost everything, his list of abilities includes flight, speed, strength, heat vision, x-ray vision . . . the list goes on.  His private life also seems pretty sweet.  He was raised by two stead[y] parents (although in some versions Pa Kent dies when Clark is young), has a good career, and in recent years is married to the love of his life.  Director Richard Donner went so far as to present Supes as a Christ figure in the 1979 film, with Jor-El (God the Father?) sending his only son to earth to help mortals realize their potential for good. As contrasted to: Then there’s Spiderman, a decidedly less perfect hero.  Peter Parker’s parents are gone, and even his Uncle Ben dies early on, leaving him with only Aunt Mae.  He gets bitten by a radioactive spider and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About two years ago, Carter Hall <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2008/09/18/superman-vs-spiderman/">wrote an article on this very site</a> comparing and contrasting the types of heroes that Superman and Spiderman represent, noting the different cultural settings from which the two were born and, consequently, identifying different generational appeals to the different superheroes. As he wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Everyone knows Superman.  He is  simply the most powerful superhero ever created.  Invulnerable to almost  everything, his list of abilities includes flight, speed, strength,  heat vision, x-ray vision . . . the list goes on.  His private life also  seems pretty sweet.  He was raised by two stead[y] parents (although in  some versions Pa Kent dies when Clark is young), has a good career, and  in recent years is married to the love of his life.  Director Richard  Donner went so far as to present Supes as a Christ figure in the 1979  film, with Jor-El (God the Father?) sending his only son to earth to  help mortals realize their potential for good.</p></blockquote>
<p>As contrasted to:</p>
<blockquote><p>Then there’s Spiderman, a decidedly less perfect hero.  Peter Parker’s  parents are gone, and even his Uncle Ben dies early on, leaving him with  only Aunt Mae.  He gets bitten by a radioactive spider and gains powers  including strength, speed, agility, wall-climbing, and “spider-sense.” &#8230;Impressive  abilities, to be sure, but <em>nothing </em>compared to Superman.  He  also struggles with issues like unemployment, unpopularity, and girl  problems to a much greater degree than his DC counterparts.  He’s a real  person, dealing with real problems, plus he fights crime.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hall addressed the way that, as different generations idealized different superheroes, different generations of church leadership idealized different parts of church history and doctrine. But now, as new generations are growing up in a new technological era, they discover not that there are new heroes to be found&#8230;but rather they discover that the old heroes &#8212; whom they had been raised to believe were larger-than-life like the DC superheroes &#8212; were always more akin to the down-to-earth Marvel counterparts. Such a discovery, rather than leading the way for a a blossoming of new understanding of the heroes, has led to a sense of betrayal for many.<span id="more-11396"></span></p>
<p>Why is this the case? In an article I wrote discussing <a href="http://irresistibledisgrace.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/literary-philistines-great-mormon-novels/">that elusive concept of &#8220;The Great Mormon Novel</a>,&#8221; I had not anticipated making any connections to history. Yet, as I read <a href="http://irresistibledisgrace.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/literary-philistines-great-mormon-novels/#comment-4677">one comment</a>, I wondered:</p>
<blockquote><p>One of the qualities that makes literature great is the ability to  create nuance.  Protagonists with serious flaws and antagonists with  shiny centers.  I don’t think Mormonism is very conducive to this view.   There’s a lot of black and white thinking – take the typical LDS  attitude toward coffee drinkers, for example.</p>
<p>In fact, an arument could be made that an individual Mormon writer  could write a great novel, but a MORMON novel, by definition, is going  to be flat and full of cariacture.</p></blockquote>
<p>I immediately was taken aback by this. Sure, I could see what the point that the writer was trying to make&#8230;and I don&#8217;t think I can really deny some impact of what he had said. Yet, as I remarked then, and what I&#8217;ve been thinking about ever since, was this:</p>
<p>Even if we see the way correlated church history as taught as being somewhat&#8230;truncated&#8230;abbreviated&#8230;whatever term you will use, what we know (or what many of us soon discover, whether we want to or not), is that Mormonism <em>does</em> have nuance. The protagonists we have been raised with <em>do</em> have serious flaws, and many antagonists have shiny centers. In fact, even if we want to speak about Mormonism today, where it seems as if Mormonism is increasingly black and white and polarized, this status quo of, say, correlation, is itself an ongoing drama of nuance, as has been addressed at length in <a href="http://mormonstories.org/?p=980">podcasts like this one on Mormon Stories</a>.</p>
<p>Yet this doesn&#8217;t seem to evoke within many the &#8220;greatness&#8221; of the tradition, of the culture, of the religion. Instead, it seems to make many shrink. It seems to break down others, without offering any care package to start building them back up.</p>
<p>Why is this so? When we look for &#8220;truth&#8221; and &#8220;perfection&#8221;, do we eschew and disdain the qualities that make literature and art beautiful, real, and <em>accessible</em>? People say that art mimics life, but when life seems to have all the traits we appreciate in art, why does that disappoint?</p>
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		<title>Binding the Broken-Hearted</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 06:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing is more painful than a broken heart. When this kind of sorrow gets deep into a person’s soul, all troubles are magnified, blessings are unseen, and it seems almost impossible to bear the daily experience of life. Getting out of bed is misery. Living is torment. A broken heart can cause such an intense reaction that many of us feel our lives have been completely stripped of meaning. Jobs, hobbies, and friends no longer hold any joy for us. In fact, some even experience physical pain with a tight chest, nervous stomach, or terrible insomnia. Nobody understands a broken heart but one whose heart has been broken. I can think of nothing sadder than someone whose heart is broken. When someone has been disappointed and broken, it affects all of his or her relationships. A broken heart could just be the cause of that cutting remark someone made to you, or even the rude gesture someone made out of a car window.  There&#8217;s a passage in the Old Testament that really comforts me when I am feeling the weight of loneliness and sorrow that sometimes comes over me.  It also comes to mind when I&#8217;m wondering how I can [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/small-heart.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-11362" title="small heart" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/small-heart.jpg" alt="" width="74" height="100" /></a>Nothing is more painful than a broken heart.  When this kind of sorrow gets deep into a person’s soul, all troubles are magnified, blessings are unseen, and it seems almost impossible to bear the daily experience of life. Getting out of bed is misery. Living is torment. A broken heart can cause such an intense reaction that many of us feel our lives have been completely stripped of meaning. Jobs, hobbies, and friends no longer hold any joy for us. In fact, some even experience physical pain with a tight chest, nervous stomach, or terrible insomnia.  Nobody understands a broken heart but one whose heart has been broken. I can think of nothing sadder than someone whose heart is broken.<span id="more-11360"></span></p>
<p>When someone has been disappointed and broken, it affects all of his or her relationships.  A broken heart could just be the cause of that cutting remark someone made to you, or even the rude gesture someone made out of a car window.  There&#8217;s a passage in the Old Testament that really comforts me when I am feeling the weight of loneliness and sorrow that sometimes comes over me.  It also comes to mind when I&#8217;m wondering how I can possibly make a difference in someone&#8217;s life who is hurting so badly.  Here&#8217;s my poetic interpretation of <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=isaiah+61:1-3&amp;do=Search">Isaiah 61:1-3</a>:</p>
<p>He hath sent me to bind up the broken,<br />
To cry to the captives: Behold, ye are free!<br />
&#8216;Tis the year of Jehovah&#8217;s good graces<br />
Then eyes that are fettered, at last they shall see.<br />
Day of our God&#8217;s just avenging:<br />
All mourners in Zion shall comforted be.</p>
<p>I shall give to them beauty for ashes,<br />
The oil of rejoicing in place of pain,<br />
The garment of praise for sad spirit;<br />
That strong trees of righteousness they might remain.<br />
Oaks of Jehovah&#8217;s own planting,<br />
That ever may be for His glory and gain!<br />
(BiV&#8217;s Isaiah 61:1-3)</p>
<p>In the Garden of Eden narrative, we are taught that there is an opposite to everything.  Joy and sorrow are opposites, so are pleasure and pain. When Adam and Eve partook of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, their eyes were opened and they were able to experience all of these things.  In the Isaiah passage above, it speaks of eyes being opened through the experiencing of some of these opposites: beauty/ashes, rejoicing/pain, praise/sadness.  These figures show us the value of living in a world where suffering exists.  A broken heart opens us to insights that we wouldn&#8217;t be able to see without it.</p>
<p>The Messiah figure in this passage also opens us up to embrace dependence.  I think humans have a tendency to adulate self-reliance.  With this comes pride and even solitude.  As we become more open to dependence &#8212; on Divine guidance, on a Savior and on each other, we learn love and community.  These are things which can heal the brokenness that is a part of living in a fallen world.  Isaiah 61 is a Messianic prophecy which teaches of a Savior who is sent forth by God&#8217;s spirit to replace pain with rejoicing, to give beauty for ashes.  But it also teaches us that we can go forth in the same spirit to bind up the broken.</p>
<p>I heard a story about a young man who proclaimed to have the most beautiful, flawless heart. As the crowd watched, he bared his chest to show a shining, golden, perfectly shaped heart.  Then an old man challenged him.  He came forward to show the crowd what his heart looked like.  It was beating strongly, but was misshapen and full of holes and scars.  It appeared that some pieces had been removed and others had been put in, but didn’t fit quite right. The old man looked at the young man, “I would never trade my heart for yours. Every scar represents a person I’ve given my love &#8212; I tear out a piece and give it to them. Sometimes they give me a piece of their broken heart, which I fit along jagged edges. When the person doesn’t return my love, a painful gouge is left. Those gouges stay open, reminding me that I love these people too. Perhaps someday they will return and fill that space.”</p>
<p>Over the years, my heart has come to resemble that old man&#8217;s.  What a Messiah means to me is recognizing this connectedness and interdependence.  It is knowing I am not as complete with a golden flawless heart that has never felt the great wrenchings.  It is opening myself to love and sorrow and rejection and recognizing that I can&#8217;t do it all on my own.  And then it is doing my best to give others a piece of my heart to help heal theirs.</p>
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		<title>A Non-Historical View of the Book of Mormon</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps the time has come in the church to recognize that some members want to openly espouse a non historical view of the Book of Mormon? My daughter Bethany and her friend Clare have recently gone to the Community of Christ Church. They enjoyed it and said the members were very open and friendly but the church at least here in the UK didn’t seem anything like our Brighamite version of the church. I understand that many of their high ranking members don’t view the book of Mormon as historical. Some members feel it&#8217;s historical; some feel it’s inspired, and some would like to see it jettisoned from the canon of scripture. I thought it was quite courageous of their leaders to consult with historians and look at the facts as they see them and to seek and follow what they felt was God’s will, doing all of this by common consent with the members in their church. One of their members Wayne Ham did a summary report (below) called Problems in Interpreting the Book of Mormon as History! But before you read his report please take the following quiz: [poll id="171"] [poll id="172"] [poll id="173"] [poll id="174"] [poll id="175"] Please [...]]]></description>
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<p>Perhaps the time has come in the church to recognize that some members want to openly espouse a non historical view of the Book of Mormon?<span id="more-11020"></span></p>
<p>My daughter Bethany and her friend Clare have recently gone to the Community of Christ Church. They enjoyed it and said the members were very open and friendly but the church at least here in the UK didn’t seem anything like our Brighamite version of the church.</p>
<p>I understand that many of their high ranking members don’t view the book of Mormon as historical. Some members feel it&#8217;s historical; some feel it’s inspired, and some would like to see it jettisoned from the canon of scripture.</p>
<p>I thought it was quite courageous of their leaders to consult with historians and look at the facts as they see them and to seek and follow what they felt was God’s will, doing all of this by common consent with the members in their church.</p>
<p>One of their members Wayne Ham did a summary report (below) called <em>Problems in Interpreting the Book of Mormon as History!</em> But before you read his report please take the following quiz:</p>
<p>[poll id="171"]</p>
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<p>Please read if you can all of Wayne Ham&#8217;s <a href="http://www.thecybercommunity.net/publish/stories.php?story=05/07/02/1025297">Problems in Interpreting the Book of Mormon as History </a>from the Community of  Christ Web Page.  Below are some selections from Ham&#8217;s paper which I highly recommend you read if you have the time:</p>
<blockquote><p>The origin and destiny of the [so-called] &#8220;Red Man&#8221; were among the chief topics for speculation and discussion on the early nineteenth century American frontier. The presence of many Indian burial mounds in the Great Lakes region was a constant source of curiosity for the settlers in that region. In 1823 Ethan Smith, a Vermont pastor, published a book entitled View of the Hebrews: or the Ten Tribes of Israel in America.</p>
<p>Those who received the Book of Mormon from the hands of eager missionaries were urged not only to assent to the narrative as a historical account of the Indians&#8217; ancestory, but also to accept the book as evidence that God had broken the silence of centuries to restore his church to the earth by means of a young prophet. Many of the early Latter Day Saint believers took an all-or-nothing approach.  If the Book of Mormon was true, the religion expounded by its author and proprietor was true also. If the book should ever prove to be false, all validity for the restoration movement would necessarily have to be disclaimed.</p>
<p>The book immediately attained a canonical status in the minds of the Latter Day Saints that made literal acceptance of it as the revelation of God to the ancient Americans a matter of faith. As far as church members were concerned, the book was impervious to any kind of critical investigation and judgment.</p>
<p>As modern historical and textual scholarship in the realm of biblical studies became increasing appreciated and influential at the grassroots level in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, and thus known to some extent to Latter Day Saints, a defensive reaction set in among some church members, resulting in some stiff resistance to allowing the tools of this scholarship to be applied to the church&#8217;s understandings of the Book of Mormon. Thus Book of Mormon studies in the past have been characterized by polemics, apologetics, and amateur archaeological surveys whenever the concern has moved beyond merely exploring the intricate details of the very complex narrative of migrations, wars, and religious revivals among the Book of Mormon peoples.</p>
<p>Because the temper of our times is such that no movement nor institution nor book can forever remain impervious to the searchlight of scholarly inspection, out times demand that all the rudiments of religious faith be subjected to the scrutiny of reason and empirical research.</p>
<p>As the Book of Mormon is examined without any intention solely to amass data to support preconceived notions about it, certain problems concerning traditional understanding of the books stand out. These problems include:</p>
<p>1<strong>. The story of its coming forth</strong>. The actual events culminating in the publication of the book are, as of now, quite irrecoverable in that it is impossible to distill a unified account from all the primary and secondary reports.</p>
<p>2. <strong>Identifying the book&#8217;s narrative with a particular time and space</strong>. Extravagant claims about ancient American archaeology supporting the Book of Mormon have been made. Toltec, Mayan and even Aztec ruins, all of a comparatively late period, have been unfortunately identified with Book of Mormon peoples.</p>
<p>3, <strong>The book&#8217;s propensity for reflecting in detail the religious concerns of the American frontier</strong>. Alexander Campbell in 1831 pointed out that every major theological question of the frontier was covered in the Book of Mormon, including infant baptism, ordination and ministerial authority, the trinity, regeneration, the fall of man, the atonement, transubstantiation, fasting, penance, church government, religious experience, the general resurrection, eternal punishment, and even the burning question of Freemasonry, republican government and the rights of man.</p>
<p>4<strong>. The Christological perspective of the book</strong>. To some students of theology, it would appear that there is a marked incongruity between the Christ Event of the New Testament and the Christ Event of the Book of Mormon.</p>
<p>5. <strong>The book&#8217;s ethical implications, when viewed as universally binding upon all men</strong>. Some Latter Day Saints, in talking of the Book of Mormon as the &#8220;fullness of the gospel&#8221; (D. &amp; C. 17:2), believe that the book reveals the will of God more perfectly than any other resource we possess. Moreover they would assert that the transmission process involved in preserving and bringing forth the book would bypass many of the scribal errors to which the Bible was admittedly vulnerable.</p>
<p>6. <strong>The use of biblical scripture and ideas as sources</strong>. Several sizeable sections of the King James Version of the Bible are found in the Book of Mormon, including twenty-one chapters of Isaiah, the Sermon on the Mount, the Ten Commandments, Malachi 3 and 4, I Corinthians 12:1-11 and Acts 3:22-26. In addition to such full-fledged quotations, the Book of Mormon is replete with short biblical expressions. John Hyde counted 298 biblical snatches from the New Testament alone in the first 428 pages of the first edition of the Book of Mormon.</p>
<p>8<strong>. The matter of Book of Mormon anachronisms</strong>. Those who approach the Book of Mormon with the view of proving it to be essentially what it seems to claim to be–a record of the history of ancient Americans who lived between 2200 BC and AD 400–immediately find themselves having to deal with the problem of anachronisms.</p>
<p>9. <strong>The changes in the Book of Mormon</strong>. While the book itself confesses the possibility of errors, many claims concerning the verbal accuracy of the book have long been made by Book of Mormon adherents. Joseph Smith himself at one time state that &#8220;the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth.&#8221; Modern Microfilm Company of Salt Lake City has recently published a work documenting 3,913 changes in the Book of Mormon since its first printing.</p>
<p><strong>Conclusions.</strong> None of the above problems areas &#8220;disprove&#8221; the Book of Mormon. They do, however, raise some questions about our traditional understandings concerning the book. Perhaps for some church members answers to the questions raised in this article would seem to be readily available. For others, however, quick and easy answers will not solve the dilemma. Perhaps the time has come in the church to recognize that some members want to openly espouse a non-literal view of the Book of Mormon, treating it as a non-historical treatise in much the same manner as modern critics view the books of Jonah, Ruth, Job, and Daniel in the Old Testament. Freed from some of the traditional hang-ups involved with having to accept unquestioningly the historicity of the Book of Mormon, these members could then read the book as a product of the Restoration movement in the nineteenth century, perhaps thus &#8220;enjoying&#8221; this fascinating piece of literature for the very first time.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Should truth be simple, easy to comprehend?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew S</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, friends and pals of MormonMatters&#8230;let&#8217;s play a game. (You just can&#8217;t get this at any of the other blogs, btw.) Some of you may have played this game before&#8230;or understand how it is played. If you do, then think back to the first time you played the game (when it was as unknown to you as it is to many), and don&#8217;t spoil it for the rest. There will be prizes. Although, they will be the nonphysical kind. OK. So, here&#8217;s the game. There are three doors in front of you. What I can tell you is that one of the door contains within a fabulous, yet utterly nonphysical prize. The other doors contain cureloms (&#8230;which I think is a goat. Maybe). Your job is to pick the door with the fabulous prize in order to win it. But I&#8217;ll tell you what I&#8217;ll do. When you&#8217;ve picked a door (but before you&#8217;ve opened it!), I will open another door that has one of the cureloms in it. I will then give you the chance to stay with your door, or switch to the final, still unopened door. &#8230;ok&#8230;so, before we get started with the game, I&#8217;ll ask you [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, friends and pals of MormonMatters&#8230;let&#8217;s play a game. (You just can&#8217;t get this at any of the other blogs, btw.)</p>
<p>Some of you may have played this game before&#8230;or understand how it is played. If you do, then think back to the <strong>first</strong> time you played the game (when it was as unknown to you as it is to many), and don&#8217;t spoil it for the rest.</p>
<p>There will be prizes. Although, they will be the nonphysical kind.</p>
<p>OK. So, here&#8217;s the game.</p>
<p>There are three doors in front of you. What I can tell you is that one of the door contains within a fabulous, yet utterly nonphysical prize. The other doors contain cureloms (&#8230;which I think is a goat. Maybe). Your job is to pick the door with the fabulous prize in order to win it.</p>
<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 198px"><a href="http://mste.illinois.edu/courses/ci436fa08/folders/bwikier2/bwikier2/CI_436/Internet_Sources/MontyHall.jpg"><img src="http://mste.illinois.edu/courses/ci436fa08/folders/bwikier2/bwikier2/CI_436/Internet_Sources/MontyHall.jpg" alt="Monty Hall Problem" width="188" height="141" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Here are your three doors</p></div>
<p>But I&#8217;ll tell you what I&#8217;ll do. When you&#8217;ve picked a door (but before you&#8217;ve opened it!), I will open another door that has one of the cureloms in it. I will then give you the chance to <strong>stay</strong> with your door, or <strong>switch</strong> to the final, still unopened door.</p>
<p>&#8230;ok&#8230;so, before we get started with the game, I&#8217;ll ask you a question. After I have revealed one of the curelom-containing doors, do you think you should stay with your door, switch to the other door, or do you think it doesn&#8217;t matter?</p>
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<p>More after the break, folks! (Including spoilers)</p>
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<p>If you truly haven&#8217;t heard of this scenario, then please acquaint yourself with the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_Problem">Monty Hall Problem</a>. Or, as some call it, the Monty Hall Paradox.</p>
<p>Why should this ever be considered a paradox? The truth&#8230;it is just so simple! It is so easy to comprehend! If I &#8212; the guy running the show &#8212; picks one of doors with the cureloms in it, then I have done you a tremendous favor. I have changed the odds from 1 in 3 to 1 in 2!</p>
<p>Of course&#8230;now that it is 50/50&#8230;it really doesn&#8217;t matter if you stay or if you switch your door. Each has an equal likelihood of containing the prize, and each has an equal likelihood of containing curelom-goat.</p>
<p>&#8230;wrong.</p>
<p>Statistically, if you switch doors, your probability of winning everything <em>doubles</em> from 1/3 to 2/3.</p>
<p>&#8230;did you see that coming? (To those of you who already saw this <em>before</em>, did you see the answer coming the first time you saw it?) Can you make sense of this truth? If you mosey back to the wikipedia page I linked you, you can see an explanation &#8212; several, actually &#8212; of the probabilities. In fact, there are freakin&#8217; <em>proofs</em>.</p>
<p>I see the Monty Hall Problem as one clear instance where what is <em>true</em> isn&#8217;t what is immediately <em>intuitive</em> or easy to comprehend (for most.) Other examples? <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.999...">0.999~ = 1</a>. <a href="http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=428718">The plane will take off of the treadmill</a>. All of quantum physics. (I imagine that when I&#8217;m old and dying and science has come up with new physics paradigms, I&#8217;ll be eating that last one&#8230;)</p>
<p>So, that brings me to my topical question: should truth be expected to be simple or easy to comprehend?</p>
<p>Especially in Mormonism (and especially if we&#8217;ve lost or doubted or questioned our faith), we often have a nascent belief that truth should be simple. Perhaps even easy to comprehend. At the very least, when we understand true concepts and principles, it should enlighten. Make everything understood. Make sense. Our doubts often come in the situations when we find an incongruency in these expectations &#8212; we either found out that what was easy to swallow, easy to comprehend is seeming more and more unlikely to be true, or that what we have found to definitely be true is nevertheless complex, nuanced, and extremely difficult to grasp.</p>
<p>And we may know people (perhaps even ourselves) who deal with such incongruencies in different ways. We have talked endlessly of &#8220;putting things on the shelf&#8221; (or, if you will, <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/04/29/putting-things-on-a-shelf/">establishing cold cases</a>.) And when we discuss such things, different sides often respond in different ways.</p>
<p>Why should we shelve things? Don&#8217;t our doubts say meaningful things to us? Why should we continue to believe things that seem <em>unintuitive, unlikely, incredible</em> (in the more mundane sense of lacking credibility), or, well, <em>unbelievable</em>? Shouldn&#8217;t we follow our noses?</p>
<p>&#8230;or is it the case that we never ought to have expected truth to be simple and easy to comprehend? And rather than live lives where our assumptions and understood storylines seem all to work without problem, we were supposed to live with &#8212; as many people have also begun discussing &#8212; with tension, paradox, uncertainty, and mystery?</p>
<p>&#8230;nevertheless, this also produces bad business advice. I think it is one thing to say that the truth may, in fact, not be simple or easy to comprehend. However, this does not necessarily mean we should accept things that seem to us unlikely&#8230;just because we are throwing out a sense of intuition for the likeliness of truthful things (&#8230;or the truthfulness of likely things..?). But then, how do we decide which unlikelies are keepers, despite their complexity or elusiveness to grasp?</p>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have recently come across a group called Reform Mormonisim. I thought their views were interesting and as I mentally answered some of their questions here I was surprised how much of it resonated with me. What I did feel in the end after reading much of their thoughts and material is why bother!! Why not become a nontheist Unitarian. Is it worth all the effort when there must be other religions very close to the same theology? Hopefully we can get someone from their church to answer that question I have added a poll to this and must apologize to those at Reform Mormonism and to the readers at Mormon Matters in that they are totally paraphrased and maybe (unintentionally )taken out of context. So please go here to see them on their web page. What they believe here Reform Mormonism is a home-based, personal philosophy. A day of rest is held wherever one is at; there are no church services. Reform Mormonism does have special temple ordinances, that are designed to aide a person throughout their life, that are conducted in dedicated temple spaces. Unlike the LDS, they do not perform any temple ordinance for the deceased. Reformed [...]]]></description>
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<p>I have recently come across a group called <a title="Reform  Mormonism" href="http://www.reformmormonism.org/index.html">Reform Mormonisim</a>. I thought their views were interesting and as I mentally answered some of their questions <a href="http://www.reformmormonism.org/lib/youmight.htm">here</a> I was surprised how much of it resonated with me.<span id="more-10920"></span></p>
<p>What I did feel in the end after reading much of their thoughts and material is why bother!! Why not become a nontheist Unitarian. Is it worth all the effort when there must be other religions very close to the same theology? Hopefully we can get someone from their church to answer that question</p>
<p>I have added a poll to this and must apologize to those at Reform Mormonism and to the readers at Mormon Matters in that they are totally paraphrased and maybe (unintentionally )taken out of context. So please go <a href="http://www.reformmormonism.org/lib/youmight.htm">here</a> to see them on their web page.</p>
<p>What they believe <a href="http://www.reformmormonism.org/whatwebelieve.htm">here</a></p>
<p>Reform Mormonism is a home-based, personal philosophy. A day of  rest is       held wherever one is at; there are no church services. Reform  Mormonism       does have special temple ordinances, that are designed to aide a  person       throughout their life, that are conducted in dedicated temple  spaces. Unlike       the LDS, they do not perform any temple ordinance for the deceased.</p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial">Reformed Mormonism are  individuals who have moved away from organized  religion and have       found peace and satisfaction in concentrating on the important  things in       life. We&#8217;re just like you &#8211; parents, children, brothers, sisters,  friends       and partners. We&#8217;ve settled on a personal philosophy that makes  sense in       the 21st century. It&#8217;s personal,  important, and best of all, it  isn&#8217;t       scary like so many churches these days.</span></p>
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		<title>A Rational Theology Part 2: The First Four Principles and Ordinances of the Gospel</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my previous discussion of &#8220;A Rational Theology&#8221; by John Widstoe, I discussed two methodologies of deriving a full LDS theology in use during the time Widstoe was writing this book.  We then compared such strategies with modern church apologists. In this installment, I&#8217;d like to discuss the first four principles and ordinances as we view them today, and contrast them with what Widstoe lays out in his rational theology. Article of Faith 4 reads: We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost. While these verses lay out the principles/ordinances, they do little to explicate what these terms actually mean. And indeed, the confusion over these principles is the subject of many theological debates in Christianity. In Mormonism, however, I think we have some fairly clear explanations for how these principles/ordinances are used in our theology. For example, to establish a definition of faith, most Mormons will refer to Hebrews 11:1, or perhaps Alma 32:21 (not quoted for sake of brevity).  Additionally, at least to me, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/rational.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-10508 alignright" title="rational" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/rational.jpg" alt="" width="170" height="263" /></a>In my previous <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/04/14/a-rational-theology-part-1-scientists-and-apologists/">discussion</a> of &#8220;<a href="http://www.cumorah.com/etexts/rationaltheology.txt">A Rational Theology</a>&#8221; by John Widstoe, I discussed two methodologies of deriving a full LDS theology in use during the time Widstoe was writing this book.  We then compared such strategies with modern church apologists.  In this installment, I&#8217;d like to discuss the first four principles and ordinances as we view them today, and contrast them with what Widstoe lays out in his rational theology.<span id="more-10862"></span><br />
Article of Faith 4 reads:</p>
<blockquote><p>We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.</p></blockquote>
<p>While these verses lay out the principles/ordinances, they do little to explicate what these terms actually mean.  And indeed, the confusion over these principles is the subject of many theological debates in Christianity.  In Mormonism, however, I think we have some fairly clear explanations for how these principles/ordinances are used in our theology.  For example, to establish a definition of faith, most Mormons will refer to Hebrews 11:1, or perhaps Alma 32:21 (not quoted for sake of brevity).  Additionally, at least to me, I sense a kind of loose cultural consensus for what faith is, and is not.  For baptism we can look to D&amp;C 20:73.  As for the Gift of the Holy Ghost, modern revelation confirms the method of the &#8220;laying of hand by those who are in authority,&#8221; and we have a ready explanation of the difference between the <strong>gift</strong> of the Holy Ghost, and the <strong>influence</strong> of the Holy Ghost.</p>
<p>I confess, I find some of the typical Mormon explanations of these principles and ordinances somewhat (okay, at least for faith very) unsatisfying.  Faith, when described as &#8220;substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen&#8221; leaves me wondering about the difference between God and electromagnetic waves or general relativity!  In the case of Alma, it is worse because we bring a new term &#8220;knowledge&#8221; into the mix without an appropriate definition.  After such standard definitions it is little wonder to me why we argue over semantics, and describe those who either fall away, or reject the church, as &#8220;faithless.&#8221;  Faith often becomes the lynchpin for anyone who doesn&#8217;t see things our way!</p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/mormon_baptism.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-10863" title="mormon_baptism" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/mormon_baptism.jpg" alt="" width="190" height="218" /></a>Likewise, even the explanation for baptism in D&amp;C 20 leaves me wanting.  What is so magical about immersion in water?  Is it entirely clear from the New Testament that Jesus was &#8220;completely submersed&#8221; in the water like we believe is necessary in LDS theology?  It feels like there should be more to this ordinance than simply a bath!  Even coupling it with repentance (as it should be) just clouds the waters of my mind.</p>
<p>In &#8220;A Rational Theology,&#8221; Widstoe lays out a compelling alternative for these standard definitions.  Not that he repudiates them, but he explicitly differentiates between the abstract meanings of the principles and ordinances, and the concrete implmentation on <em>terra firma</em>.  I think his words are enlightening:</p>
<blockquote><p>In God&#8217;s Plan for life on earth is a system of laws representing eternal realities, to which man must conform. Such a law, for instance, is faith, which, in its simple, universal meaning, is man&#8217;s certainty that in the universe is found everything he may desire for his upbuilding and advancement, and that the eternal relations of universal forces will prevail in the end for his good. Another such fundamental law, to which man must conform, is that of repentance, which in its larger sense is merely faith made active. Passive faith can do little for man&#8217;s advancement. Yet another such law is that of baptism, which is essentially obedience to existing laws. And still another such law is that of the gift of the Holy Ghost, which perhaps means that a man may place himself in touch with the whole of the universe, including the beings of superior intelligence that it contains, and draw knowledge from forces beyond the earth. &#8211; John A. Widstoe, &#8220;A Rational Theology&#8221; pp 42-43</p></blockquote>
<p>Here, it is clear that the first four principles and ordinances of the Gospel are eternal laws, are independent of the LDS church, earth, priesthood, or any other convention, organization, or authority in the universe.  I believe this offers us perspective on the larger context in which the specific LDS implementation resides.  It also makes allowances for God&#8217;s other non-terrestrial children to experience different forms of these basic laws and principles.<br />
Widstoe goes on to say:</p>
<blockquote><p>Life on earth deals directly with gross matter and the forces pertaining to it. The laws formulated for the guidance of man are especially devised for earth conditions, and belong to the earth. For instance, water baptism, the symbol of obedience to God and acceptance of his love, is essentially an ordinance of and for this earth. It is not thinkable that water baptism is practiced in a future estate for water is an earth substance. If this be true, then all who enter upon the earth-career, and who desire the perfected joy derived from the Gospel, must have baptism on this earth. &#8211; John A. Widstoe, &#8220;A Rational Theology&#8221; pp 44-45</p></blockquote>
<p>Then the all-encompassing explanation provided formerly, couched in the reality of earth life,  offers a surprising explanation of vicarious ordinances, necessarily performed here, on behalf of those who did not receive them while &#8220;in the flesh.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>Should some of the spirits refuse, while on earth, to accept the Gospel, or fail to hear it, baptism, belonging to the earth, must be done for them, vicariously, on earth, so that they, having had the work done for them here, may accept or reject the ordinance in their life beyond the grave. This is the motive of the work for the dead. The earth ordinances must be done by or for every soul born upon the earth so that the earth-experience may not be in vain, should the Gospel be accepted in the remotest day of eternity. This view becomes more important when it is recalled that the ordinances of the earth, belonging primarily to the earth, stand for vast, eternal realities, indispensable to man&#8217;s progress. &#8211; John A. Widstoe, &#8220;A Rational Theology&#8221; p. 45</p></blockquote>
<p>For me, I find the deeper theology here enriching, satisfying, and meaningful, particularly in my state of uncertainty with regard to the plenitude of truth claims in the LDS church.</p>
<p>So how do you view Widstoe&#8217;s rational &#8220;first four principles and ordinances&#8221;?  Do his explanations provide you with more insight?  Is he right?  Or is this just another attempt by an &#8220;apologist&#8221; to justify his belief system?  Is there scriptural backing for his claims?  We do not emphasize such distinctions in the church today.  Is this because we don&#8217;t really know, or is it just not important?</p>
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		<title>White and Delightsome or Pure and Delightsome? (Cognitive dissonance 2)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’m 1/16 th Chippewa and don’t even look a little Indian! I figure from my knee down is pure Chippewa and  for whatever reason  I am pretty proud of that. In the afterlife if possible I would like that section preserved if God sees fit.  Below is my Great Grandmother and Grandmother &#8212; you can see even from one generation to the next how things change. I would also like to see my ancestors who are pure Chippewa with all their beautiful dark skin and get to know them as they were living on the earth before God changes their skin colour to white. We have met an Elder who the sisters of all ages seem to swoon over &#8212; he is half Tongan and half Hawaiian. There is no other way to put it but he is a lady killer! We discussed this subject, and it doesn’t seem to bother him if the doctrine does literally mean white and not pure.  He doesn&#8217;t mind if he becomes white in the afterlife. It seems to disturb me more than it does him. It’s something he and his family have come to grips with. I guess I better get down to what [...]]]></description>
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<p>I’m 1/16 th Chippewa and don’t even look a little Indian! I figure from my knee down is pure Chippewa and  for whatever reason  I am pretty proud of that. In the afterlife if possible I would like that section preserved if God sees fit.  Below is my Great Grandmother and Grandmother &#8212; you can see even from one generation to the next how things change.<span id="more-10643"></span></p>
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<p>I would also like to see my ancestors who are pure Chippewa with all their beautiful dark skin and get to know them as they were living on the earth before God changes their skin colour to white.</p>
<p>We have met an Elder who the sisters of all ages seem to swoon over &#8212; he is half Tongan and half Hawaiian. There is no other way to put it but he is a lady killer! We discussed this subject, and it doesn’t seem to bother him if the doctrine does literally mean white and not pure.  He doesn&#8217;t mind if he becomes white in the afterlife. It seems to disturb me more than it does him. It’s something he and his family have come to grips with.</p>
<p>I guess I better get down to what has caused my dissonance.   Here are some statements by the prophets about a Book of Mormon passage found in <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=2+ne+30:6&amp;do=Search">2 Nephi 30:6</a> regarding a change Lamanites would experience if they embraced the Book of Mormon.  In every edition save one (1840), the words &#8220;white and delightsome&#8221; were used.  In the 1981 edition, the editors reverted to the 1840 edition&#8217;s &#8220;pure and delightsome&#8221; wording.</p>
<p><strong>Prophet Statements</strong></p>
<p><strong>President Brigham Young </strong><br />
&#8220;You may inquire of the intelligent of the world whether they can tell why the aborigines of this country are dark, loathsome, ignorant, and sunken into the depths of degradation &#8230;When the Lord has a people, he makes covenants with them and gives unto them promises: then, if they transgress his law, change his ordinances, and break his covenants he has made with them, he will put a mark upon them, as in the case of the Lamanites and other portions of the house of Israel; but by-and-by they will become a white and delightsome people.&#8221; (Journal of Discourses 7:336)</p>
<p><strong>W.W. Phelps to Brigham Young quoting Joseph Smith: </strong></p>
<p>&#8220;It is my will, that in time, ye should take unto you wives of the Lamanites and Nephites that their posterity, may become white, delightsome and just.&#8217;&#8221; In the 8 December 1831 Ohio Star, Ezra Booth wrote of a revelation directing Mormon elders to marry with the &#8220;natives.&#8221; (Sunstone, November 1993, footnote #5, pg. 52)</p>
<p><strong>Apostle Spencer W. Kimball</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today&#8230;. The day of the Lamanites is nigh. For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised. In this picture of the twenty Lamanite missionaries, fifteen of the twenty were as light as Anglos, five were darker but equally delightsome. The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation. At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl&#8211;sixteen&#8211;sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents&#8211;on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather&#8230;.These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.&#8221; (Apostle Elder Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference Address, April 1, 1967)</p>
<p><strong>2 Nephi 5:21</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, and they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.&#8221;</p>
<p>3 <strong>Nephi 2:12-15</strong> teaches that dark-skinned Lamanites who converted unto the Lord had their curse taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;White&#8221; versus &#8220;Pure&#8221; (Maxwell Institute)</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>According to the 1830 edition of the Book of Mormon, Nephi, speaking of the latter-day restoration, discussed the future conversion of Lehi&#8217;s descendants: &#8220;And then shall they rejoice; for they shall know that it is a blessing unto them from the hand of God; and their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and a delightsome people&#8221; (2 Nephi 30:6). In 1840 the Book of Mormon was &#8220;carefully revised by the translator,&#8221; Joseph Smith, and in that edition the expression &#8220;white and delightsome&#8221; was changed to &#8220;pure and delightsome.&#8221; This change seems to reflect the Prophet&#8217;s concern that modern readers might misinterpret this passage as a reference to racial changes rather than to changes in righteousness. Possibly his sojourns in Ohio and Missouri had altered his perspective of the racial connotations of the term <em>white</em> in the contemporary United States, particularly among slaves and slaveholders. He may not have gained much understanding of this matter during his upbringing in New England and New York State, where slavery was not as common.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for subsequent Latter-day Saint interpreters, following the Prophet&#8217;s death the changes in the 1840 edition of the Book of Mormon were not carried over into subsequent printings, which were instead based on an edition prepared by the Twelve Apostles in Great Britain after a copy of an earlier edition. The apostles, being in England, were not familiar with the 1840 edition. Consequently, Latter-day Saints did not reap the benefit of the Prophet&#8217;s clarification until it was restored in the 1981 edition of the Book of Mormon.  Some critics have been fond of citing statements of earlier Latter-day Saint leaders, who once interpreted 2 Nephi 30:6 to mean that conversion leads to a change of skin color; however, to use such statements today is anachronistic at best and disingenuous at worst since these statements were all expressed previous to the 1981 correction and merely echo a misinterpretation of the Book of Mormon text rather than the authoritative text itself. Moreover, a change in Lamanite skin color was clearly never intended by the &#8220;white/pure and delightsome&#8221; passage that the Prophet Joseph modified because it does not refer to the Lamanites at all, but to the Nephites and Jews in the latter days who turn to Christ (see 2 Nephi 30:1—7).</p>
<p>But is the Prophet&#8217;s change from &#8220;white&#8221; to &#8220;pure&#8221; justified in the scriptural context? The answer is yes. The terms <em>white</em> and <em>pure</em> are used synonymously in Daniel 7:9, Revelation 15:6, and Doctrine and Covenants 110:3. They are also found together in a number of passages where they clearly refer to those who are purified and redeemed by Christ (Alma 5:24; 13:12; 32:42; Mormon 9:6; D&amp;C 20:6). Similarly, Mormon expressed the hope that the Nephites &#8220;may once again be a delightsome people&#8221; (Words of Mormon 1:8).</p></blockquote>
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<p>Where I have dissonance or questions</p>
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<li>Is from how I understand the Book of Mormon and statements of past prophets contradict our view of it being pure today.</li>
<li>There has been no church conference talk that I am aware of clarifying the teachings of the past prophets i.e. President Kimball white vs pure. Many members I would suggest aren’t clear on our past beliefs and our current progressive belief on pure.</li>
<li>If these were president Kimball’s own personal views why haven’t the church come out with a statement expounding on this?</li>
<li>As a church, are we resolute that this was a clarification of the word white &#8212; never meant to refer to a person with dark skin pigmentation who would turn white upon a conversion to the gospel; but referring to a cleaner state of heart? This hypothesis in my mind fails to make clear other passages in the Book of Mormon that still make a connection with &#8220;iniquity&#8221; and skin color. See, for example, <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?type=references&amp;last=2+ne+30:6&amp;help=&amp;ro=checked&amp;search=2+ne+5:21%0D%0A&amp;do=Search&amp;show=">2 Nephi 5:21</a> as well as past prophet statements.</li>
<li>Why did it take God 140 years to clarify this misunderstanding?</li>
<li>If we quote what President Kimball said in 1967 conference would we be considered anachronistic today?</li>
<li>Is FARMS saying Apostle Kimball’s views are out of date , old fashioned, obsolete?</li>
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		<title>Mormon Myths as Transferable Charisma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron R. aka Rico</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard Bushman has recently given a presentation on ‘Joseph Smith and the Routinization of Charisma’. One of Bushman’s arguments seems to be that Charisma was located in the office rather than the person. That these divine or supernatural powers were transferred to whoever held a particular office.  Moreover, it was through this coupling of bureaucracy and charisma that Joseph led the early Church and through which it was transferred to Brigham Young. Yet, as the bureaucracy and membership grew it would seem that the ability of both members and leaders to draw upon or demonstrate this office-based charisma became more limited. Many Latter-day Saints will spend their whole lives never seeing a Prophet in person. Instead, therefore, my contention is that Mormon myths serve as a form of transferable Charisma. They become one of the mechanisms for demonstrating the type of office-based Charisma that Bushman observes. I want to explore these myths using the office of Prophet/President.  The centrality of his position hierarchically, the significant role he plays in the faith of many members of the Church and also the infrequency of contact with the general membership make this an apt example. These myths come in many varieties.  There are stories about the Holy of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Bushman has recently given a presentation on ‘Joseph Smith and the Routinization of Charisma’. One of Bushman’s arguments seems to be that Charisma was located in the office rather than the person. That these divine or supernatural powers were transferred to whoever held a particular office.  Moreover, it was through this coupling of bureaucracy and charisma that Joseph led the early Church and through which it was transferred to Brigham Young. Yet, as the bureaucracy and membership grew it would seem that the ability of both members and leaders to draw upon or demonstrate this office-based charisma became more limited. Many Latter-day Saints will spend their whole lives never seeing a Prophet in person. Instead, therefore, my contention is that Mormon myths serve as a form of transferable Charisma. They become one of the mechanisms for demonstrating the type of office-based Charisma that Bushman observes.<span id="more-10148"></span></p>
<p>I want to explore these myths using the office of Prophet/President.  The centrality of his position hierarchically, the significant role he plays in the faith of many members of the Church and also the infrequency of contact with the general membership make this an apt example.</p>
<p>These myths come in many varieties.  There are stories about the Holy of Holies, about paintings of the Saviour and about mantle experiences. Now all of these may well be true, in whole or in part, or they may be completely fabricated. I am not concerned with their truth claims, rather I think that what is essential in the dynamic of these stories is the way that they become transferable between Prophets.</p>
<p>It is possible to trace a number of these stories (or variants of them) through many leaders, especially prophets, of the Church. This does not add to their fallacious nature rather it serves to reinforce what Bushman noted, which is that the office is endowed with charismatic gifts and not the person. Therefore it is probable, even expected, that these charismatic gifts are manifest by diverse men who hold the same office.</p>
<p>For example, the ‘This is the Place’ myth is re-cycled in England regularly but in a context far removed from Utah. Instead this myth focuses on the construction of the Preston Temple. Simply stated, a number sites were discussed but one site had a number of people who always resisted building permission. Yet, President Hinckley had asked for a Temple to built in Preston and when he saw the different sites he said… Yes, you guessed it. Then, though there were problems, the Temple went ahead. I am sure other similar stories abound.</p>
<p>My point is this, the process of re-cycling and repeating these mythic stories is one mechanism for maintaining the dynamism of a charismatic office, specifically the Prophet, in a Church where the general membership is so far removed from the individual. This is not to say that miraculous things do not happen, but these stories play an important sociological role in reinforcing this key notion that is rooted so firmly to the earliest days of the Church. These Mormon myths serve as a form of transferable charisma for an otherwise distant office.</p>
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		<title>Jacob&#8217;s Ladder: More on Faith Vs. Works</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[OT SS Lesson #10 Though it&#8217;s only an &#8220;additional teaching idea&#8221; in Lesson 12, Jacob&#8217;s ladder has captured my imagination due to some conversations I&#8217;ve recently had with Christian evangelicals. Jacob&#8217;s Dream woodcut, Lubeck Bible 1494 The theme of the ladder to heaven is often used by the Early Church Fathers. Their interpretations of Jacob&#8217;s symbolic dream in Genesis 28 are similar to those made by Mormon General Authorities. In the 2nd century, Saint Irenaeus described the Christian Church as the ladder of ascent to God. In the 3rd century Origen explained that there are two ladders in the Christian life; one of which is the ladder that the soul climbs on the earth increasing the virtues. In the 4th century Saint Gregory of Nazianzus spoke of ascending Jacob&#8217;s Ladder by successive steps towards excellence, interpreting thus the ladder as an ascetic path, while Saint Gregory of Nyssa wrote that Moses climbed on Jacob&#8217;s Ladder to reach the heavens where he entered the tabernacle not made with hands, thus giving to the Ladder a clear mystical meaning. The ascetic interpretation is found also in Saint John Chrysostom who wrote: &#8220;And so mounting as it were by steps, let us get [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-7683" title="Avatar-BiV" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51-150x150.jpg" alt="Avatar-BiV" width="80" height="80" /></a><big><strong>OT SS Lesson #10</strong></big></p>
<p>Though it&#8217;s only an &#8220;additional teaching idea&#8221; in<a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=0545c106dac20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;vgnextoid=198bf4b13819d110VgnVCM1000003a94610aRCRD"> Lesson 12</a>, Jacob&#8217;s ladder has captured my imagination due to some conversations I&#8217;ve recently had with Christian evangelicals.</p>
<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;" href="http://www.ancientworlds.net/aworlds_media/ibase_1/00/09/57/00095701_000.jpg"><img src="http://www.ancientworlds.net/aworlds_media/ibase_1/00/09/57/00095701_000.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="640" height="339" /></a></div>
<div style="text-align: center;"><small>Jacob&#8217;s Dream woodcut, Lubeck Bible 1494<span id="more-10028"></span></small></div>
<p>The theme of the ladder to heaven is often used by the Early Church Fathers. Their interpretations of Jacob&#8217;s symbolic dream in <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/gen/28/10-19#10">Genesis 28</a> are similar to those made by Mormon General Authorities. In the 2nd century, Saint Irenaeus described the Christian Church as the <em>ladder of ascent to God</em>. In the 3rd century Origen explained that there are two ladders in the Christian life; one of which is the  ladder that the soul climbs on the earth increasing the virtues. In the 4th century Saint Gregory of Nazianzus spoke of ascending Jacob&#8217;s Ladder by successive steps towards excellence, interpreting thus the ladder as an ascetic path, while Saint Gregory of Nyssa wrote that Moses climbed on Jacob&#8217;s Ladder to reach the heavens where he entered the tabernacle not made with hands, thus giving to the Ladder a clear mystical meaning. The ascetic interpretation is found also in Saint John Chrysostom who wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;And so mounting as it were by steps, let us get to heaven by a Jacob’s ladder. For the ladder seems to me to signify in a riddle by that vision the gradual ascent by means of virtue, by which it is possible for us to ascend from earth to heaven, not using material steps, but improvement and correction of manners.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The account of Jacob&#8217;s Ladder as an analogy for the spiritual ascetic of life is again found in the classical work <a class="mw-redirect" title="Ladder of Divine Ascent" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladder_of_Divine_Ascent">Ladder of Divine Ascent</a> by St. John Climacus. The ladder in Jacob&#8217;s dream represented a symbolic journey where each of the rungs suggest the steps needed to move upward. Man must climb up one level at a time as he participates in the saving principles and ordinances of the gospel offered by the Lord, who stands at the top. Notice how similar this description is to the quote by Marion G. Romney found in our lesson:</p>
<blockquote><p><big>“<span style="color: #003366;"><strong>Jacob realized that the covenants he made with the Lord … were the rungs on the ladder that he himself would have to climb in order to obtain the promised blessings—blessings that would entitle him to enter heaven and associate with the Lord</strong></span>”</big> (“<a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=1c08945bd384b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">Temples—The Gates to Heaven</a>,” <em>Ensign,</em> Mar. 1971, 16).</p></blockquote>
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<span style="font-size: x-large;"><em style="color: #783f04;"><span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;amp;amp;">L</span></em></span>ater Christian interpretation of Jacob&#8217;s ladder is quite different than the early Church fathers, and demonstrates the dichotomy of thought between evangelicals and Mormons on the faith and works issue. In this exegesis, Jesus is seen as being the reality to which the ladder points in that he bridges the gap between heaven and earth. According to Martin Luther, Jacob&#8217;s vision of the ladder represented the incarnation of Christ. In the Gospel of <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=john+1%3A51&amp;do=Search">John 1:51</a> there is a clear reference to Jacob&#8217;s dream pointing towards Jesus Christ, referred to by his title of the Son of Man:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Adam Clarke, an early 19th century Methodist theologian and Bible scholar, elaborated upon this verse:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;That by the angels of God ascending and descending, is to be understood, that a perpetual intercourse should now be opened between heaven and earth, through the medium of Christ, who was God manifested in the flesh. Our blessed Lord is represented in his mediatorial capacity as the ambassador of God to men; and the angels ascending and descending upon the Son of Man, is a metaphor taken from the custom of dispatching couriers or messengers from the prince to his ambassador in a foreign court, and from the ambassador back to the prince.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>In this one Biblical symbol we find differing schools of thought over the issue of salvation: One group views the ladder as a way to reach heaven based on their own actions of improvement and obedience to covenants and ordinances. The other group has access to heaven based on the provisions of God through the Mediator, Jesus Christ, who came to earth and became that ladder or stairway for the sinner to reconnect the relationship with God.</p>
<p>In pondering this issue in the past, I have lamented that such a rift exists between our two faith traditions. It often seems to me that we are closer than we think, and that grace and works are both important. Mormons, I explain, emphasize works so much because we fear that if we don&#8217;t, the sinner might lapse into laziness or indifference. Christians emphasize the grace aspect of the equation so that no one will mistakenly trust in legalism rather than the Savior for their salvation. Isn&#8217;t the truth a balance between <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/eph/2/4-9#4">Paul</a> and <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/james/2/14,17-18,20-22,24-26#14">James</a>? However, the evangelicals have labored hard to convince me that salvation must be accepted upon grace alone. Lately I&#8217;ve been pondering why I am reluctant to join them in their assurance. I&#8217;ve accepted Christ as my Savior, and it certainly would be a lot easier not to worry so much about whether I was paying my tithing, going to the temple regularly, or doing my visiting teaching. But here&#8217;s what holds me back: if Jesus offers me the grace they describe, then I&#8217;ll be OK whether I&#8217;m doing my works or not. But if the Mormon view turns out to be the more accurate description of the will of God for us, I need to be trying my hardest to do all of those works which are in my power.</p>
<p>Am I living my life based on fear rather than faith? Maybe. Will it count against me in the end?  I don&#8217;t see how it could.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s your take on Jacob&#8217;s ladder? Do we walk up, or does God descend to meet us where we are? Can this scriptural metaphor be of any help to us in our faith journey?</p>
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		<title>A Tribute to Charity</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2010/02/13/a-tribute-to-charity-my-father-had-a-stroke-on-wednesday/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My father had a stroke on Wednesday. The artery in his neck is 95% blocked, and he will have surgery to try to correct that problem next Wednesday. Since my New Year&#8217;s Resolution posts on my personal blog this month are focused on charity envying not, I want to repost something that I wrote a little over two years ago when one of my nieces died unexpectedly. Much of what I know of charity envying not (and charity in totality) was learned by watching my father &#8211; particularly as he laid down his own life for the woman he loves. He never once begrudged what he might have had, but rather did what it took to serve his family and others in his own, individual, consciously chosen path. I hope someday I will be as good a man as he is. Here are some edited excerpts of what I wrote in November of 2007: My mom has a rare form of schizophrenia. My father was unaware of this, as was everyone else (including my mother), when they got married. He found out after the birth of my sisters (twins), when she was overwhelmed and her mind wouldn’t shut down and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father had a stroke on Wednesday. The artery in his neck is 95% blocked, and he will have surgery to try to correct that problem next Wednesday. Since my New Year&#8217;s Resolution posts on my personal blog this month are focused on charity envying not, I want to repost something that I wrote a little over two years ago when one of my nieces died unexpectedly.</p>
<p>Much of what I know of charity envying not (and charity in totality) was learned by watching my father &#8211; particularly as he laid down his own life for the woman he loves. <strong>He never once begrudged what he might have had, but rather did what it took to serve his family and others in his own, individual, consciously chosen path</strong>. I hope someday I will be as good a man as he is.</p>
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Here are some edited excerpts of what I wrote in November of 2007:</p>
<blockquote><p>My mom has a rare form of schizophrenia. My father was unaware of this, as was everyone else (including my mother), when they got married. He found out after the birth of my sisters (twins), when she was overwhelmed and her mind wouldn’t shut down and allow her to sleep. She had what was termed a nervous breakdown, which led to her clinical diagnosis.</p>
<p>From that moment forward, my dad shielded my mom from every care of the world so her condition would stay in remission, if you will. By all practical measures, he became my father and my mother. They had four children, but my mom wanted more, so he agreed &#8211; knowing that meant his responsibilities would increase accordingly. Ultimately, they had eight. He shouldered all of the financial, household, emotional, physical, disciplinary, organizational, educational, etc. responsibilities for his family and allowed his wife to be seen by the community as the incredibly spiritual woman we knew as our mother &#8211; a modern Mormon saint. People in town admired his work ethic, but they never realized what he was doing behind our doors &#8211; <strong>because he never once mentioned it in any way to anyone</strong>.</p>
<p>Until her first breakdown, my father served in various leadership positions in the Church &#8211; for example, serving in a Bishopric before the age of 30. <strong>After that, he literally laid down the life he had been pursuing and focused on serving my mother</strong>. He waited nearly 30 years to serve in another position that required he spend significant time away from home &#8211; until his children were gone and my mom could function without the stress associated with raising them. He left an extremely well paying job with incredible advancement opportunities to go back to the small town where my mom was raised, simply to ease her stress and allow her to function normally. <strong>He became an elementary school janitor for over 20 years, took a 50% pay cut and focused on loving and serving his kids &#8211; both at home and at his school &#8211; in relative poverty. </strong></p>
<p>Not holding a high-profile church position or good-paying job, he came to be known in town as a salt-of-the-earth farm boy &#8211; a good man, but certainly not a leader. I bought into that perception until my mother’s second breakdown a few years ago, when her “sleeping pills” stopped working and her whole personality changed. It was only after this experience that I finally saw my father for what he is &#8211; <strong>as close an example of the Savior’s single-minded dedication to service and family as anyone I have ever known</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>(The full post can be read at: <a href="http://thingsofmysoul.blogspot.com/2007/10/my-niece-died-this-morning.html">http://thingsofmysoul.blogspot.com/2007 &#8230; rning.html</a>)</p>
<p>So much of what we discuss so passionately in the Bloggernacle is important and interesting and stimulating and fun . . . and ultimately meaningless when placed next to charity and the lives of good, humble men and women. </p>
<p>Today, as I contemplate charity envying not, I think of a man lying in a hospital &#8211; robbed of the physical strength and vitality that allowed him to work multiple jobs for years to provide for his familty and allow his beloved to remain at home and undistracted by the real world around her. I think of a man who lived the life he felt was required of him given his covenants and responsibilities &#8211; even though that life brought unexpected hardships and sacrifice.</p>
<p>I spoke with him last night, and the voice I heard was foreign to me. It hit me for the first time in real terms that my father is an old man &#8211; and that he now will need to receive the same type of care and attention that he gave so freely for decades. I only hope that others respond and serve him as he served them so unselfishly and charitably &#8211; <strong>but, in the spirit in which he raised me, I will not judge or condemn them if they do not</strong>.</p>
<p>I love you, Dad &#8211; and I will be grateful eternally that I learned at the feet of such a wonderful, Christlike man.</p>
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