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		<title>Marriage Counseling: Waste of Money or Balm of Gilead?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that most of you could use some good marriage counseling. Yes, you. “…do ye suppose that the Lord will still deliver us, while we sit upon our thrones and do not make use of the means which the Lord has provided for us?” –Alma 60:21 I have run into two groups (although there are more) of couples in the church. One group has tried marriage counseling and found it to be mediocre, a waste of money, and even damaging. Unfortunately, this happens. Another group of couples has not really considered it. They may feel like their relationship is pretty good, or don’t see how therapy would help. For this group I often quote the verse above – Marriage counseling is a means that God has provided for us. We cannot afford to “sit upon our thrones” (i.e. our pride) and not use therapy as an available means of improving THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF OUR ETERNAL LIVES. So what’s the problem? First, some marriage counseling really IS a waste of time and money. Some of it may even make your relationship worse. This is not something you can just [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that most of you could use some good marriage counseling. Yes, you.</p>
<p><em>“…do ye suppose that the Lord will still deliver us, while we sit upon our thrones and do not make use of the means which the Lord has provided for us?” –Alma 60:21</em></p>
<p>I have run into two groups (although there are more) of couples in the church. One group has tried marriage counseling and found it to be mediocre, a waste of money, and even damaging. Unfortunately, this happens. Another group of couples has not really considered it. They may feel like their relationship is pretty good, or don’t see how therapy would help. For this group I often quote the verse above – Marriage counseling is a means that God has provided for us. We cannot afford to “sit upon our thrones” (i.e. our pride) and not use therapy as an available means of improving THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF OUR ETERNAL LIVES.</p>
<p><strong>So what’s the problem?</strong><span id="more-12219"></span></p>
<p>First, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">some marriage counseling really IS a waste of time and money</span>. Some of it may even make your relationship worse. This is not something you can just walk into. For those who have tried counseling and had bad experiences, consider yourself validated.</p>
<p>Second, as mentioned above, there are many couples who do not believe their relationship warrants marriage counseling. Many of them may indeed have relatively happy marriages, and could live out their lives without any extra help. They don’t see how counseling could make their relationship even better. Some couples may actually be quite distressed, but still don’t see how counseling would help. These are all valid concerns.</p>
<p>In a study on why people don’t go to counseling, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the top two reasons were money and lack of belief that counseling will be effective</span>. That old standby, social stigma, is actually not much of an issue anymore (I think it came in at #18). We are more open, for the better, about psychotherapy.</p>
<p><strong>We can&#8217;t afford it</strong></p>
<p>I don’t know what to tell you about the financial aspect. If you really can’t afford it, or you have no insurance that will cover it, my heart goes out to you. Family Services is an option, however, and fast offerings will cover at least part of your fees. If you DO have the money, and still think it’s expensive, I urge to you check your priorities. Do you spend money on golf lessons? Are they more important than your marriage? It IS an investment. You do need to make sure you&#8217;re getting your money&#8217;s worth though.</p>
<p><strong>Will it actually help?</strong></p>
<p>For the second concern – whether it will actually help or not – you need to do your homework. If you have been caught in one of the cycles I mentioned in my post last week, it is a necessity that you find a therapist that can address these cycles. You will be wasting your time talking to a counseling who tries to teach you “communication skills.” Who can do communication skills when they’re standing on the edge of a cliff? You need someone better.</p>
<p>Not all therapists (even at Family Services) are equally effective. Talk to people you trust who have been to a marriage counselor, and ask about their experience. Talk to any friends who are therapists – they often have some good ideas and/or referrals.</p>
<p>While many therapists do not follow a particular model of treatment, marriage counseling requires a carefully planned set of techniques and goals, with a structure that the therapist can follow as he or she begins working with you and your spouse. Find out what kind of training and experience the therapist has had specifically in working with couples. What is their approach? If you hear things like “skills” you may want to be a little skeptical. Marriage counseling that focuses on learning skills may work in the short-term, but has a woeful relapse rate.</p>
<p>Some therapists will adhere more closely to a particular model of treatment. This may or may not mean they are more effective. It all depends on how good they are at the model. Currently, the only two models of marriage counseling that are heavily supported by research are Behavioral Marital Therapy (also referred to as “Integrative Behavioral Couple Therapy,” “Cognitive Behavioral Couple Therapy,” or “Traditional Behavioral Couple Therapy”) and Emotionally Focused Therapy (also referred to as &#8220;EFT&#8221; or &#8220;Emotionally Focused Couple Therapy&#8221;).</p>
<p>For particular models, I admit my bias. In my work with couples I mainly use EFT. According to about 20 years of research, 7 out of 10 couples experience “recovery” from distress. 9 out of 10 experience some amount of improvement. These numbers are huge. Most marriage counseling is about 50% effective, with high relapse rates. EFT has very low relapse rates, and many couples continue to experience gains in their relationships years later.</p>
<p>While EFT is effective for couples in general, certain couples seem to experience the most gains. If you fall into one or more the following categories, you may experience the most improvement:</p>
<ul>
<li> couples who are over 35 years of age</li>
<li>men who would be viewed by their spouses as “emotionally inexpressive”</li>
<li>women who, despite the distressed relationship, still have faith that their husbands care for them.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>What is EFT like?</strong><br />
EFT is largely based on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attachment_theory" target="_blank">attachment theory</a>, which suggests that we all have needs for safety and connection from infancy to the day we die. The ways we go about getting these needs met can sometimes cause problems in our relationships. I highly recommend the books “<a href="http://www.holdmetight.net/" target="_blank">Hold Me Tight</a>” by Sue Johnson and “<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Attached-First-Relationships-Capacity/dp/0195115015" target="_blank">Becoming Attached</a>” by Robert Karen if you are interested in learning more about your relationship and attachment. Those books can be <em>especially</em> helpful for couples who are not distressed, but would just like to improve things.</p>
<p>An EFT therapist will help you understand the pattern that you get caught it, and help both of you experience the emotions underlying the pattern (these are discussed in the post last week). After a while, you and your spouse will be able to see the pattern as a common enemy you fight together, and it will still happen but won’t be as intense. You will be able to interrupt it. This is the first big change, but is not enough to last. The therapist will then work almost solely with the more withdrawn partner to help them feel safe and explore their unmet or hidden needs and emotions that drive the pattern. This partner will eventually “re-engage” in the relationship. Next, both the newly re-engaged withdrawer, along with the therapist, will help the pursuing/blaming partner to explore their underlying needs and emotions, which eventually results in a blamer/pursuer softening. I believe that these two events—the withdrawer re-engaging and the pursuer softening—are next to impossible without something like EFT. After this process has been completed, THEN you may work on specific issues, if they are still a problem. Parenting difficulties, in-laws, money, sex, use of time – all these issues become easier to solve when your cycle or pattern is no longer a problem. Naturally, there are bumps along the way. EFT can take anywhere from 12 to 40 sessions (or more) depending on how distressed you are, and if there is any trauma in either you or your spouse&#8217;s history.</p>
<p>This is a very brief and simplified explanation of the EFT process. Naturally, it has also been rather cognitive. This is stuff you cannot do in your head, which is why the therapist must guide you through it. There are EFT therapists in many different countries, and in many states in the U.S. If you are interested, <a href="http://iceeft.com/findtherapist.php" target="_blank">go here to find one</a>. Next to each of their names it will show their experience, from just receiving the basic training if EFT, to being a certified EFT therapist or supervisor. <em>Most</em> certified EFT therapists are probably skilled enough to help most couples.</p>
<p>Whether you choose EFT or some other type of therapy or therapist, choose wisely. It is a big decision. At the same time, don’t put it off! Couples wait way too long before they go to therapy. For all those husbands who don’t think they need marriage counseling, all I can say is repent and listen to your wives! Let go of your pride. Going to therapy doesn’t mean you have failed, it means you care.</p>
<p>May we all be proactive in improving our relationships, in whatever way we may choose to do so. May we let go of our pride and fear and anxiety and make use of the means the Lord has provided for us.</p>
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		<title>Songs That Touch Our Hearts</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mormon Heretic</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since yesterday was Pioneer Day, I thought I&#8217;d share my thoughts on one of my favorite Pioneer Hymns.  Most of you are probably familiar with Come, Come Ye Saints.  It was one of my sister&#8217;s favorite songs, and she requested that it be played at her funeral.  While I always liked the song, I can rarely sing it without getting a bit emotional as I think of my sister. She was the oldest in my family.  My father was a convert, and always referred to her as &#8220;the pioneer&#8221; of the family.  Perhaps that is why she liked the song so much.  The last verse is the one that always causes me to think about my sister. And should we die before our journey&#8217;s through, Happy day! All is well! We then are free from toil and sorrow, too; With the just we shall dwell! But if our lives are spared again to see the Saints their rest obtain, Oh, how we&#8217;ll make this chorus swell- All is well! All is well! My sister died from a brain tumor.  She struggled through radiation and chemotherapy for nearly 2 years before succumbing.  I often feel like she died before her journey was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since yesterday was Pioneer Day, I thought I&#8217;d share my thoughts on one of my favorite Pioneer Hymns.  Most of you are probably familiar with<em> Come, Come Ye Saints</em>.  It was one of my sister&#8217;s favorite songs, and she requested that it be played at her funeral.  While I always liked the song, I can rarely sing it without getting a bit emotional as I think of my sister.</p>
<p><span id="more-12215"></span>She was the oldest in my family.  My father was a convert, and always referred to her as &#8220;the pioneer&#8221; of the family.  Perhaps that is why she liked the song so much.  The last verse is the one that always causes me to think about my sister.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>And should we die before our journey&#8217;s through,<br />
Happy day! All is well!<br />
We then are free from toil and sorrow, too;<br />
With the just we shall dwell!<br />
But if our lives are spared again to see the Saints their rest obtain,<br />
Oh, how we&#8217;ll make this chorus swell-<br />
All is well! All is well!</em></p></blockquote>
<p>My sister died from a brain tumor.  She struggled through radiation and chemotherapy for nearly 2 years before succumbing.  I often feel like she died before her journey was through, but I am glad she is free from toil and sorrow too.  I often wish her life was spared again, but it wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>She left behind 4 small children under the age of 10.  Three of them are in college now, and the other is a senior in high school.  They have coped very well, and are excellent people.</p>
<p>My brother died 4 years ago in a tragic auto accident.  He was about the same age as my sister when she died (36).  He also left behind 4 small children under the age of 7.  At the funeral, the closing song was &#8220;God Be With You Till We Meet Again.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can remember singing this song at the end of meetings, and thinking it was a nice song to end the meeting.  I planned on meeting everyone the next week at church again.  But when it was played at the funeral, it took on a whole new meaning.  I usually can&#8217;t sing the song anymore, but I love to listen to it.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>God be with you till we meet again;<br />
By His counsels guide, uphold you,<br />
With His sheep securely fold you;<br />
God be with you till we meet again.</em></p>
<p><em>Refrain</em></p>
<p><em>Till we meet, till we meet,<br />
Till we meet at Jesus’ feet;<br />
Till we meet, till we meet,<br />
God be with you till we meet again.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see my brother again.  So, what are some songs that touch your heart?</p>
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		<title>The Mormon Therapist on Interracial Marriage</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 06:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Natasha Helfer Parker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently I&#8217;ve been in contact with a girl by means of the internet. We haven&#8217;t met but plan to soon. I like her a lot. She has told me she loves me and wants to start a family with me. She isn&#8217;t a member of the church but said she is willing to join it if it means being with me.  I find her attractive, yes -but there are other factors as well. She is from a mixed race (half African, half White American). I know love can put aside all differences but at the same time this would cause stress on both of us. Not only culturally but children, my family (she has no family really), etc. Some of my family members are a little less open to other races as I am. I know family is something that can be dealt with but my family is very close. I was just wondering if there was some way to overcome this issue? I have openly told her about my feelings on these subjects and she doesn&#8217;t care. She is willing to wait for me to overcome my issues. I plan to go forward with our relationship and see how [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Recently I&#8217;ve been in contact with a girl by means of the internet. We haven&#8217;t met but plan to soon. I like her a lot. She has told me she loves me and wants to start a family with me.<br />
She isn&#8217;t a member of the church but said she is willing to join it if it means being with me.  I find her attractive, yes -but there are other factors as well.<br />
She is from a mixed race (half African, half White American). I know love can put aside all differences but at the same time this would cause stress on both of us. Not only culturally but children, my family (she has no family really), etc. Some of my family members are a little less open to other races as I am. I know family is something that can be dealt with but my family is very close. I was just wondering if there was some way to overcome this issue?<br />
I have openly told her about my feelings on these subjects and she doesn&#8217;t care. She is willing to wait for me to overcome my issues. I plan to go forward with our relationship and see how well we get along once we have met in person. I look forward to it.<br />
I have prayed concerning this and have felt good about it. I just still am struggling to overcome some of my anxiety over the subject. Am I wrong to worry about such things? Am I over thinking this?  Any advice would be appreciated. </em></p>
<p><span id="more-11940"></span>Finding love through the Internet is a new mating process that is increasing in popularity and has been for the past 10-20 years. As with any new process, we struggle to figure out its implications and &#8220;rules&#8221; of behavior as we embark on unchartered territory. One of the positives of the Internet is the decrease of geographical and cultural boundaries. This has a great impact on the &#8220;pool&#8221; available to those who are dating.  Our world today is much more global, as is our church, and people are meeting, falling in love or beginning friendships with those not of their culture, race or even religious faith at a much grander scale than ever before. There are many wonderful things about this &#8211; the main one being increased tolerance for others different from ourselves.<br />
However, as with anything, there are challenges that couples in interracial, intercultural, or interfaith relationships should be aware of as they make the decision to make a life together:</p>
<ul>
<li> Unfortunately there still remain many stereotypes or &#8220;attitudes&#8221; towards mixed race relationships &#8211; this can depend greatly on the geographical area you live in. The best way to deal with this issue is to see it as ignorance and un-Christlike behavior. It may take patience at times, the willingness to not be overly sensitive and the willingness to be a voice, example and educator to those around you. Be clear with friends and family members that if they want to enjoy the benefits of a relationship with you and your wife (if you were to get married), that any type of racism/bigotry will be addressed and not tolerated. Because of deep seeded beliefs/cultural bias, some people may not even be aware that their behavior is racist. That is why I encourage open communication before writing people off.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> With different cultures and faiths there usually come different traditions, parenting styles, conflict/problem-resolution styles and even romance styles. As with any relationship, communication will be a key element for success.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> It will be of great importance once children are born, to engender in them a sense of pride for all aspects of their ancestry and subsequent personhood (i.e. color of skin, cultural tradition and history, etc.). Sometimes within the same family, children may have different color shades of skin tone. Communication and normalizing of the family situation will be important in engendering strong self-esteem and a strong sense of family unity. It is also important to educate them on what they can expect from the outside world so that they are prepared to deal with insults or other ignorant behavior.</li>
</ul>
<p>Here are some thoughts in regards to your specific situation:</p>
<ul>
<li> It is normal to worry and &#8220;over think&#8221; when making the important decision as to your lifelong companion. In fact, it is good to be as objective as possible and be realistic about the pros and cons of the relationship. This is usually a difficult thing to do when we are &#8220;in love.&#8221; However, the more you discuss potential strengths and weaknesses as a couple, the more insight you will both receive as to your problem-solving styles, your compatibility, your attraction, your goals/dreams, etc. These are important things to be addressing during the dating process.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> I encourage you to take the relationship to the next level &#8211; that of meeting as you mention &#8211; and see how you feel about each other once you are able to spend more time with one another. There is no need to hurry or rush into any decision.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> Just because your love interest has &#8220;received an answer&#8221; and feels that you should marry, does not necessarily mean that this is your answer. It will be important for you to receive your own impressions and personal revelation regarding the decision as to whom you will marry.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> I would discourage any conversion process that is based solely on the desire to marry. Many not of our faith don&#8217;t always understand the commitment needed to legitimately become a convert.  Conversion into our religion takes doctrinal belief and personal commitment that this woman may not be completely aware of. I would hope also that from your perspective, it would be more important for her to convert sincerely if that is what she chooses at some point, than to just want her to convert due to family and/or LDS social pressure. Conversion should be a deeply personal, spiritual and largely individual journey with God.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> It is better to be aware of and recognize any cultural or racist biases you may have and be honest with yourself about them. In the desire many of us have not to be racist, we inadvertently hide uncomfortable feelings or thoughts (even from ourselves). To be able to overcome such thought processes we first need to identify them and how we want to progress. Asking ourselves the following questions may be helpful: Where do my biases come from? What lenses am I looking through (i.e. my parents?, my culture?, my education?) Are any of my biases based on evidence? Are they based on fear? Are they based on gospel teaching? How did Jesus Christ feel about and treat those of a different culture during His ministry? What can I learn from Him? How do my biases limit me? How do they protect me? Do I want this type of protection? How do I want to approach people of a different race, culture or faith? How do I want these same people to approach me?</li>
</ul>
<p>With all this being said, I want to be clear that whether or not we marry within the same race, religion or culture &#8211; the fact remains that the two families from which two individuals come from are, in of themselves, two different cultures. We take a lot for granted when marrying within &#8220;sameness&#8221; that many times does not meet expectations. People assume certain things because of the labels we engender. Then come to find out, assumptions are not realities. It is important regardless of who we marry to be aware of the &#8220;culture&#8221; our spouse comes from, the &#8220;culture&#8221; we come from and how we are to integrate the strengths and weaknesses we bring to the table to in turn create a new found culture within the bounds of our new family and home.</p>
<p>MM readers:<br />
What are your thoughts and feelings about interracial marriage?<br />
What are your thoughts and feelings about marrying outside of our faith?</p>
<p><em>Natasha Helfer Parker is a Licensed Clinical Marriage and  Family      Therapist and a member of the Church with 13 years of  experience    working   with LDS members. Here she shares with us  representative    cases from  her  practice and insights she has gained  from her work as a    therapist.   She  blogs at <a href="http://mormontherapist.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">mormontherapist.blogspot.com</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>Wandering Mormons as Nephites</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[More than two years ago, the Holy Spirit began insisting that I re-read the Book of Mormon. Of course, I didn’t immediately recognize the impulse as anything but a good idea originating within my own intellect. That’s what I do with anything – process it intellectually first. I knew spending more time reading scriptures would be the spiritual equivalent of walking more for my heart, so I put it on my to-do-list. You know all about the to-do-list that never seems to get any shorter because of emergencies and recurring requirements. So, re-reading the Book of Mormon stayed on the to-do list for a while. But then the press became more persistent and insistent: “No, you REALLY need to re-read the Book of Mormon,” and the very persistence began to get through my blocks of rationalization. So I kept moving it up the to-do-list until it was high among the emergencies and the recurring tasks, and I began to read. I had not gone cover-to-cover since I was in elementary school. I still have my first Book of Mormon given me as a baptism gift, and almost every verse in it is underlined: I didn’t know what went with what [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More than two years ago, the Holy Spirit began insisting that I re-read the Book of Mormon. Of course, I didn’t immediately recognize the impulse as anything but a good idea originating within my own intellect. That’s what I do with anything – process it intellectually first. I knew spending more time reading scriptures would be the spiritual equivalent of walking more for my heart, so I put it on my to-do-list. You know all about the to-do-list that never seems to get any shorter because of emergencies and recurring requirements.</p>
<p>So, re-reading the Book of Mormon stayed on the to-do list for a while. But then the press became more persistent and insistent: “No, you REALLY need to re-read the Book of Mormon,” and the very persistence began to get through my blocks of rationalization. So I kept moving it up the to-do-list until it was high among the emergencies and the recurring tasks, and I began to read.<span id="more-11666"></span></p>
<p>I had not gone cover-to-cover since I was in elementary school. I still have my first Book of Mormon given me as a baptism gift, and almost every verse in it is underlined: I didn’t know what went with what back then, and figured just about everything must be terribly important and interrelated. So I absorbed the story for a story important in my religion, and soaked up any theology unconsciously in the process. In the decades since, I used the Book of Mormon many times in preparing sermons; you preach a lot when you live in a denomination of mostly small congregations where priesthood is not the province of all worthy males. I taught many individual topics in classes or missionary efforts. I even had a few verbal jousts on my front steps with LDS missionaries before I learned that was fratricide that wasted everyone’s time. But the focus on the immediacy of my assigned tasks didn’t convey the global oversight of that first boyhood reading. In the later readings, I had the theology, both from the Book itself as well as from a deeper understanding of the other scriptural sources of Christian theology, but had lost track of the story as story.</p>
<p>From this perspective, as I began to read I began to understand overarching themes I’d missed before because they hadn’t been “on task”. Among them, I began in particular to see the books of 1<sup>st</sup> Nephi through the Words of Mormon as sort of an “old” Old Testament concerned with the overwhelming question of the first generations of Nephites: “Is there still a place for us with God?”</p>
<p>After all, in 600 BC, Judea <strong>was</strong> the “church”. You didn’t think of personal salvation outside of the structure of your Jewish tribal identity, and keeping the covenant kept your identity guaranteed by the only true God. I mean, look what had happened to the Northern Kingdom. Just gone! Conceptually to the Jews then, it didn’t matter whether individuals in the 10 tribes had been obedient or disobedient, just or unjust. The Kingdom  of Israel had been judged unworthy of God’s continued protection as a <strong>whole kingdom</strong>. The fate of the people as individuals simply was not a question that had any place in the mental landscape. What did God care about a just Assyrian or Egyptian compared to a Jew?</p>
<p>What does it do to your mental landscape, then, when God starts telling you that you are to leave your tribe, and you aren’t ever coming back? You are being further told that the tribe itself is about to be conquered and won’t be there if you do change your mind. You are amputating your culture, and you have little to replace it with, physically, mentally, emotionally, or spiritually. There is beyond the wilderness and the sea a “land of promise” to fill the physical hole, if you cling to your faith, but what replaces everything else?</p>
<p>Lehi and Nephi had their visions. They went, but you can see their frustration and anger at the Jews in their writings over the sheer stupidity of the disobedience of the covenant that was bringing the Babylonian disaster upon them. Laman and Lemuel turned their anger toward their father instead. Everybody was supposedly committed to going into the wilderness, but they all kept forgetting things (like wives) and finding reasons to have to go back to Jerusalem to get them. They seem to have been in shock. Stay! Go! Make up your mind!</p>
<p>And so the scriptures about the ultimate fate of Israel/Judea, as discussed by Isaiah or Zenos, become dominant concerns in this Book of Mormon “old” Old Testament. It is not an abstract theological debate to the Nephites; much of their personal focus and records are devoted to testifying that God has promised a reconnection of their seed (and even the seed of their rebellious Lamanite brethren) to the Israelites in a future time. Acceptance of Christ is seen as the means of this reconnection as well as the means of personal salvation. In fact, <strong>personal salvation</strong> is the newer, more revelatory concept which is increasingly emphasized as the story moves toward its historical climax. Even at the time of Christ’s appearance, this societal reconnection is on the minds of the people, and Christ takes time to reemphasize it along with his teachings about personal salvation. Indeed, “convincing of the Jew” of Christ’s divinity is as important as “convincing of the Gentiles”; the land of promise is not just a promise for the Nephites, but a means of keeping a promise by God for everyone else.</p>
<p>Many of those who come to this site feel either their “sense of the Spirit” or the “sense of their intellect” calling them into the “wilderness”. Whether it is because the church is not found to be as-advertised, because it changes too slowly, or because it changes too much, the shock and the anger are real and pretty much the same for all. They often no longer can support parts of the culture, but have nothing clear in their sights to replace it. They leave, miss something they left behind, go back, and try again to follow one direction or the other. Some fraction of them experience rejection by the community because they are perceived to be rejecting the norms of the community first. And sometimes they don&#8217;t know whether to be angry at others or ashamed of themselves.</p>
<p>They are reenacting this great dilemma of the early Nephites. How are they and their families to be connected to the purposes of God, when they have previously experienced their “tribe” as the only authorized means of connection? Yet, if the call is genuine, it will keep persisting and growing more insistent. There will be a land of promise for those who follow that call, and if the Nephite example holds, it will not just be a land of promise for those “wandering Mormons”. It will be a land of promise of those who come after them, and, in the long run, a blessing for the tribe they left behind as well. Experiencing being called into the wilderness isn’t a strange thing in Mormon history; it’s sort of what makes you one of the tribe in the first place.</p>
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		<title>Mormon Marriage Ref: The Johansen&#8217;s Daughter is Cohabitating!</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2010/06/11/mormon-marriage-ref-our-daughter-is-cohabitating/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While the situation described may be common, the names, events, and dialogue etc. are all fictional. Here’s the situation: David and Sue Johansen have been married for 20 years. They have four children: 19 (girl), 15 (girl), 12 (girl), and 8 (boy). The oldest just finished up her sophomore year in college, about a two-hour drive away. She is doing very well in school, majoring in biology and pre-med with a 3.8 GPA, and her boyfriend of nearly two years is an education major, planning to teach high school English in an inner-city school. Needless to say more, they are both very competent and successful in their educational pursuits. While away at school, she eventually became disinterested in attending the local branch, and eventually moved in with her boyfriend. While this concerns both David and Sue, they disagree about what should be allowed when their daughter and her boyfriend come to visit. Sue feels that their daughter is an adult and should be allowed to share a room with her boyfriend. David vehemently disagrees. David: “If we allow them to sleep in the same room in OUR home, we will be condoning her choices. How can we allow this in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>While the situation described may be common, the names, events, and dialogue etc. are all fictional.</em></p>
<p><strong>Here’s the situation:</strong></p>
<p>David and Sue Johansen have been married for 20 years. They have four children: 19 (girl), 15 (girl), 12 (girl), and 8 (boy). The oldest just finished up her sophomore year in college, about a two-hour drive away. She is doing very well in school, majoring in biology and pre-med with a 3.8 GPA, and her boyfriend of nearly two years is an education major, planning to teach high school English in an inner-city school. Needless to say more, they are both very competent and successful in their educational pursuits. While away at school, she eventually became disinterested in attending the local branch, and eventually moved in with her boyfriend. While this concerns both David and Sue, they disagree about what should be allowed when their daughter and her boyfriend come to visit. Sue feels that their daughter is an adult and should be allowed to share a room with her boyfriend. David vehemently disagrees.<span id="more-11445"></span></p>
<blockquote><p><em>David:</em> “If we allow them to sleep in the same room in OUR home, we will be condoning her choices. How can we allow this in our home, which is SUPPOSED to be sacred?!? You should be supporting me on this. Well, not just me, but the Lord.”</p>
<p><em>Sue: [Rolls eyes]</em> “Of course we don’t agree with her choices, but she is an adult! Besides, your preaching about our “home” and what you think the Lord wants is divisive. Of course I care about our home, but your attitude is belligerent and controlling.”</p>
<p><em>David: [Raises voice]</em> “Well, that’s the consequence of sin! Jesus himself said so. Just because she’s our daughter doesn’t mean we have to accept her sinful behaviors.”</p>
<p><em>Sue:</em> “I really think you should back off on this. Actually, the other kids feel the same way as well. She is doing so well in school, you need to give her some space as an adult.”</p>
<p><em>David: [Looking hurt, softens voice]</em> “So you’re all ganging up against me on this?” <em>[Raises voice, becomes adamant]</em> “Then you’re going against the Lord. Regardless, what kind of example will that set for the rest of our kids? That this is okay? It seems to already be happening… And I agree, she is doing well in school, but she is only successful by the world’s standards. How many children will we lose to the world? I don’t want to lose anymore”<em> [Begins to tear up a little]</em></p>
<p><em>Sue: </em>“I get it, she is not living the church’s standards right now. We don’t agree with her choices, but she is on birth control, and she is 19 years old! You are going to drive her away with your insistence on parenting our adult child. What does it matter if she shares a room with her boyfriend if it means she isn’t pushed out of the family? You NEED to let this one go.”</p>
<p><em>David:</em> “What about when Elder Oaks said that we can’t ignore adult children who are cohabitating? He is an apostle and he said it is wrong for us to ignore it. How can we ignore the Lord? Also, Elder Nelson said that we should confront children in these situations, not just go along with it. We can’t support sin!”</p>
<p><em>Sue:</em> “It’s clear to me that you care more about quoting church leaders than you care about our family. We all     disagree with you. It is her choice, and if we don’t accept their relationship, we will drive them away. Is that what we want?”</p>
<p><em>David: [Getting louder]</em> “Of course not! But we can’t condone this! I’m beginning to think you don’t really care about what I think or what the leaders of the church think, or even what the Lord thinks.”</p>
<p><em>Sue:</em> <em>[Getting quiet]</em> “Here you go again…”</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>You make the call! Who wins this argument? David or Sue? Why? Sound off in the comments, and offer some advice about how this couple could work out this disagreement in a more productive way than just declaring a winner….</strong></p>
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		<title>Does God Squash ETs: How Human is Human?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Distinctly Mormon doctrines relating the physical appearance of humanity to God’s own “preferred” form grew gradually in early Restoration history rather than springing forth in full. Although there are references in the Book of Mormon to the Brother of Jared seeing the “finger” and then the full vision of Christ (the earliest recorded of Joseph Smith’s prophetic writings), even the earliest published accounts of the First Vision do not feature descriptions of two personages appearing as does the “official” version eventually recorded several years after formation of the church. This doesn’t mean that later descriptions were contradictory to the first version; it does suggest that certain features of the encounter took on greater significance in light of subsequent experience. The emphasis on the “physicality of God” even in the spiritual realm grew in concert with notions of the Eternal Family and its role and function in achieving and living in Celestial Glory. The elaboration of this theology was natural as the early church leadership began to push, even if at first secretly, new forms of marriage and family life, but it was not an inevitable evolution of the theology of the 1830 Restoration. For example, no one in the Community [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Distinctly Mormon doctrines relating the physical appearance of humanity to God’s own “preferred” form grew gradually in early Restoration history rather than springing forth in full. Although there are references in the Book of Mormon to the Brother of Jared seeing the “finger” and then the full vision of Christ (the earliest recorded of Joseph Smith’s prophetic writings), even the earliest published accounts of the First Vision do not feature descriptions of two personages appearing as does the “official” version eventually recorded several years after formation of the church. This doesn’t mean that later descriptions were contradictory to the first version; it does suggest that certain features of the encounter took on greater significance in light of subsequent experience.</p>
<p>The emphasis on the “physicality of God” even in the spiritual realm grew in concert with notions of the Eternal Family and its role and function in achieving and living in Celestial Glory. The elaboration of this theology was natural as the early church leadership began to push, even if at first secretly, new forms of marriage and family life, but it was not an inevitable evolution of the theology of the 1830 Restoration. For example, no one in the Community of Christ expects that the afterlife is about progressing to populate new worlds with our own spiritual offspring, as Heavenly Father populated our own world. In one denomination, it is <strong><em>the</em></strong> Heavenly Father; in the other it is Heavenly Father, with the seldom spoken inference that there may be Heavenly Mother lurking in the theology as well.<span id="more-11344"></span></p>
<p>Today, because of this history, Mormons have a well-integrated belief system about how and why the Divine interacts with the physical universe that, nevertheless, is very different from its “prairie cousins”, let alone in comparison to more distantly related Christian denominations. As a prairie cousin with an abiding interest in the theological role of the physical, this fascinates me. LDS theology raises questions about the limits of acceptable definitions of “children of God”, and what God might do to see His children come out on top that would never occur to me in CofChrist theology. These are the kinds of questions I’d like to ask openly in this post.</p>
<p>Let’s look at extreme cases first, and then try to focus in on cases closer to home.</p>
<p>We know that the universe is a violent place. Creation is violent itself, and often involves destruction on scales we can barely comprehend. My favorite example is <a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/98199456.html">the &#8220;Death Star Galaxy&#8221;.</a> We have in that example a small galaxy – a mere few billion stars is small – that has wandered into a radiation jet being emitted by a larger galaxy. The jet is obliterating thousands of solar systems, and any life there, as we watch by telescope.</p>
<p>What does that tell us? Are planets with life so rare that God can let planets be destroyed wholesale without moral consequences? Or perhaps there are not moral consequences because the life there is not human and thus has no spirits? Either way, would God be able to “write off” a great deal of reality under LDS theology because His “children” weren’t involved? He just has to watch over those special few worlds ideal for humanity. The worlds with just the right size, at just the right distance from stars of the proper temperature and age, with the proper orbital stability and a big brother planet like Jupiter nearby to protect against too frequent impacts from comets. The list of requirements is lengthy, but with infinite space to play around in, they’re bound to pop up here and there even if God doesn’t directly favor them with a helping hand.</p>
<p>Or perhaps God has to actively “weed out” competition for his favored species. You could interpret the evidence that way, too. Consider the destruction of the dinosaurian ecosystems 65 million years ago, or the even more catastrophic Permian extinction scores of millions of years still earlier. Our existence and physical forms today depend in complex, but critical, ways on details of those events. For example, the locations within their general orbits of all the inner planets of our solar system, including the earth, are known to be chaotic on only the order of 5 million years. Start out an orbital simulation with the earth relocated by as little as a millimeter, and in 5 million years, the earth could be on the other side of the sun. A “miracle” performed a hundred million years ago that protects humanity from destruction by asteroid strike or clears the world of big reptilians so mammals (and man) can take over could be too small to notice. Far easier than Moses calling on God to make the sun stand still during battle or parting the Red Sea.</p>
<p>What LDS theology would define to be human gets tougher to distinguish as we get closer to humanity. How close? Well, within the last few weeks, evidence has been published on the results of sequencing Neanderthal DNA. The evidence, first reported in <em>Science</em>, but more accessible <a href="http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/58936/title/Neandertal_genome_yields_evidence_of_interbreeding_with_humans"> here at <em>Science News</em>,</a> shows that modern humans whose lines remained in Africa do not share Neandertal DNA. However, all of the rest of us get one to four percent of our genes from interbreeding with Neandertals that occurred after leaving Africa 45,000 or so years ago. We don’t carry Neandertal body types, but we do seem to carry something important from that population in our internal chemistry and in our brains. Eternal Family reunions might be more surprising than our expectations.</p>
<p>So, did the Neandertals die out because our body type was a little more divine than theirs? Or were the ones who bred with <em>Homo sapiens</em> the more righteous ones? Or do we extend the moral capability and need for redemption to an extinct species at all? Do we instead decide that we are all descended from ancestors who practiced bestiality? Were physical specimens of humans who had no Spirits walking around contemporaneously with Adam?</p>
<p>Look closer now as we get to Biblical or Jaredite times. Now we picture God as acting in detail to favor one nation over another, one individual over another. We try to point to specific reasons for that favoritism in terms of justice, mercy, or obedience in this life or in preexistence, and we can often convince ourselves that such reasons exist. I could argue a very good case, for example, that slaughter of entire Canaanite cities down to the last child might actually produce fewer casualties in the long run.</p>
<p>But the more uncomfortable I become <em>unless</em> I make the case in such terms, the more I realize that tying God’s plan of salvation to things other than intelligence, or justice, or mercy, or obedience – properties that have little to do with the shape or functions of my body – raises doubts. Wouldn’t exalted beings give up such narrow notions of the boundaries of humanity as part of the progression toward exaltation itself?</p>
<p>So I look at the criteria with which we define relationships with God through their physical manifestations – species, race, gender, diet, clothes – and I wonder. Is God really concerned about those things when He decides to claim His children. Or are we just engaging in a very destructive and provincial form of sibling rivalry?</p>
<p>In my Father’s house are many mansions. Maybe some reefs and rookeries, too. Maybe some hives for natural clones or collective minds.</p>
<p>And if that’s true, then certainly there are places for <em>Homo sapiens</em> with same-sex attraction, or childless couples, or singles – every form of Eternal Family we might imagine from the occurrence of those forms here on earth.</p>
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		<title>Our MM Mothers</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 11:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Dehlin: I love my sweet Mom (Nan McCulloch) &#8212; for a hundred different reasons. She&#8217;s a wicked cook. A spectacular actress. A fantastic decorator and homemaker. She lets me come stay at her house at a moment&#8217;s notice, whenever I need a place to sleep. She&#8217;s empathetic. Supportive. Witty. Wise. EXTREMELY thoughtful. And smoking hot (as far as Mom&#8217;s go, anyway). I could go on, and on, and on. But what do I admire most about my Mom? I would have to say&#8230;.it is her openness and curiosity. As a multi-generational, faithful Latter-Day Saint, she has always taught me tolerance of others (gays, intellectuals, feminists&#8230;Utahns. You name it). Once more, she is a fantastic example of a faithful, yet curious church member &#8212; who is not afraid to study things out, and to face the toughest questions. And at 70ish (sorry, Mom!)&#8230;.she isn&#8217;t showing any signs of slowing down. Bored in Vernal: My mom is a professional woman, an athlete, a musician and a fabulous mother!  She insisted we live up to our potential and told us we could do anything. And she&#8217;s always provided the example in her own actions. Near the end of a successful career as [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Mom-1.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-11059" style="margin-left: 50px; margin-right: 50px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" title="Mom (1)" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Mom-1-200x300.jpg" alt="" width="120" height="180" /></a>John Dehlin:</h3>
<p>I love my sweet Mom (Nan McCulloch) &#8212; for a hundred different reasons.  She&#8217;s a wicked cook. A spectacular actress.  A fantastic decorator and homemaker.  She lets me come stay at her house at a moment&#8217;s notice, whenever I need a place to sleep.  She&#8217;s empathetic.  Supportive.  Witty.  Wise.  EXTREMELY thoughtful.  And smoking hot (as far as Mom&#8217;s go, anyway).  I could go on, and on, and on.  But what do I admire most about my Mom?  I would have to say&#8230;.it is her openness and curiosity.  As a multi-generational, faithful Latter-Day Saint, she has always taught me tolerance of others (gays, intellectuals, feminists&#8230;Utahns.  You name it).  Once more, she is a fantastic example of a faithful, yet curious church member &#8212; who is not afraid to study things out, and to face the toughest questions.</p>
<p>And at 70ish (sorry, Mom!)&#8230;.she isn&#8217;t showing any signs of slowing down.<span id="more-11057"></span></p>
<h3><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/ScannedImage-4.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-11064" style="margin-left: 50px; margin-right: 50px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" title="ScannedImage-4" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/ScannedImage-4-187x300.jpg" alt="" width="123" height="198" /></a>Bored in Vernal:</h3>
<p>My mom is a professional woman, an athlete, a musician and a fabulous mother!  She insisted we live up to our potential and told us we could do anything.  And she&#8217;s always provided the example in her own actions. Near the end of a successful career as the principal of a private school, she returned to the university for an advanced degree (in the days when this wasn&#8217;t done very frequently).  She told us of a birthday she had when she was required to be in class, where she didn&#8217;t know many of the other young students.  Instead of feeling sorry for herself, she brought cupcakes and made it into a party!  She makes friends wherever she goes.  Last year she won a State running competition in her age group (70-80) and qualified to go to the Senior Olympics competition in California where she took second place in the 200 meter dash.  The local newspaper reported: &#8220;With every hair in place, Nancy Lund raced to victory Friday in the women&#8217;s 200-meter dash, smashing age and gender stereotypes as she went.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my mom!</p>
<h3><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/mmrocks.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-11068" style="margin-left: 50px; margin-right: 50px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" title="mmrocks" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/mmrocks-300x300.jpg" alt="" width="117" height="117" /></a>Mormon Heretic:</h3>
<p>My mom really does Rock!  She has a way of making me never want to disappoint her&#8211;my dad doesn&#8217;t necessarily have this trait.  She has always been a good listener to me, even when she didn&#8217;t agree with some of my crazy ideas.  Growing up, she really was my best friend, and a wonderful confidant.  I have often said that my mother has the patience of Job.  She is a true saint, and follower of Christ.</p>
<p>I love her immensely.</p>
<h3><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/hallbraille-05.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-11072" style="margin-left: 40px; margin-right: 40px; margin-top: 50px; margin-bottom: 50px;" title="hallbraille-05" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/hallbraille-05-300x238.jpg" alt="" width="143" height="113" /></a>Ray:</h3>
<p>My mom was one of David O. McKay&#8217;s secretaries before she married my dad &#8211; one of the youngest to ever hold that job.  She was a top-notch executive secretary, but she walked away from employment to raise her children.  When her first four pregnancies ended in miscarriages and a still-born daughter, my parents almost gave up having any biological children &#8211; but she wanted to try one more time, so my dad agreed.  The birth of my sister, followed by me 13 months later, followed by twins 11 1/2 months later led to a diagnosis that almost stopped the growth of their family again &#8211; but she wanted more children, so my dad agreed.  My mother had eight children, and I never heard her yell or raise her voice once.  She loved us with all her heart, and she prayed for us with all her soul.  I am grateful for the example she was to us of a totally dedicated daughter of God. My mom is a pianist &#8211; and she instilled in us a love of music that will never die.  I sing because it is natural for me, but I play the piano because she is my mother.  My mom translated things into Braille for the blind, typing away on the old Braille machines most of you probably have never seen.  My mom is less than 5&#8242; tall, and I still can see her sitting on the floor in the winter, under the desk (where the opening for the chair was), next to the heater, reading a book &#8211; generally an inspirational/spiritual book or the scriptures.   Happy Mother&#8217;s Day, Mom.  I love you!</p>
<h3><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/happy-mothers-day-daisy.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-11074" style="margin-left: 50px; margin-right: 50px; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px;" title="happy-mothers-day-daisy" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/happy-mothers-day-daisy-218x300.jpg" alt="" width="118" height="162" /></a>Single Mormon Chick:</h3>
<p>&#8220;A mother is not a person to lean on, but a person to make leaning unnecessary.&#8221; ― Dorothy Canfield Fisher<br />
My mother did this, but what she also did, twenty years after I left home,was to allow me to lean on her. It was brief, but it was significant.<br />
I was raised by the best kind of mother. Firm, but loving. Tough, but kind. Always helpful, but never interfering. She taught me about faith and enduring through hardship and trials. She showed me that a genuine smile can really brighten someones day, so be generous with those smiles.  I inherited her smile, so I try to share it as she always has. I don&#8217;t have children, but i find that in addition to her smile, I inherited her maternal instinct. It shines through when dealing with my nieces and nephews and even some of the women that I serve in my calling at church.  We all need mothering sometimes no matter how old we are.</p>
<p>I am grateful to have the best mom.</p>
<h3><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/witch-broom-pattern.gif"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-11062" style="margin-left: 50px; margin-right: 50px; margin-top: 20px; margin-bottom: 20px;" title="witch-broom-pattern" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/witch-broom-pattern-300x254.gif" alt="" width="126" height="106" /></a>jmb275:</h3>
<p>(I know the picture seems weird, but my mom will understand.)</p>
<p>You brought me into this world and have been on my side ever since.  During the most painful moments in my life you have been there.  You bandaged me up (and sometimes took me to the hospital <img src='http://mormonmatters.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) after so many accidents.  You supported me in my many eclectic endeavors in my youth.  You wrote to me religiously when no one else did.  You were willing to listen when no one else wanted to hear it.  You were open to discussion when everyone else was against me.  You affirmed me, and yet you did not agree with all my conclusions.  You loved me when I wasn&#8217;t sure anyone else wanted to.  I cannot conceive of a better mother for me than my own.  Thank you mom, I love you!</p>
<h3><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/baby-grand-piano.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-11061" style="margin-left: 50px; margin-right: 50px; margin-top: 60px; margin-bottom: 60px;" title="baby-grand-piano" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/baby-grand-piano-259x300.jpg" alt="" width="109" height="126" /></a>FireTag:</h3>
<p>My wife Charlotte became the primary breadwinner of our family after my heart attack, which led her to expand piano teaching from a form of service to a full time business. That would have been enough, but her sense of the Spirit calling her wouldn’t let her rest. She realized her young piano students and the sick and elderly had something to offer each other. She built on opportunities to provide entertainment at a local Methodist-affiliated nursing home to create a now-10-year old program of monthly recitals that involve dozens of students from most major world religions. When a friend contracted breast cancer, she committed herself to find a way to produce music CDs that would be given as gifts to offer hope to patients undergoing treatment at Johns Hopkins  Medical Center in association with the Avon Foundation. That “one-time project” quickly led to a request for supplying further CDs to a women’s hospital in the United Arab Emirates, where breast cancer carries with it social stigma unappreciated in the West. Her students brought her stories of personal tragedies among their families and friends, and before she knew what hit her, she was creating a foundation that recorded and sent music CDs to children’s hospitals throughout the United States. While jockeying for position in a gas line with another car, she discovered that the driver of the other car was responsible for helping to coordinate programs for wounded soldiers returning from combat – so the foundation was launched on a project, still ongoing, to deliver music gifts to Fischer Houses and USO’s at bases throughout the US and in Germany. So here’s my tribute to a Mother in Israel whose willingness to act on the leadings of the Spirit awes me.</p>
<h3><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/granite-mountain.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-11113" style="margin-left: 50px; margin-right: 50px;" title="granite mountain" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/granite-mountain-200x300.jpg" alt="" width="120" height="180" /></a>Joanna Brooks</h3>
<p>My mom is a force to be reckoned with.  She’s done so much genealogy that the Church has dedicated a wing of the Granite Mountain Records Vault to her.  In heaven, there are at least ten Cougar Stadiums’ worth of baptized, endowed, and sealed ancestors waving white pom-poms and chanting her name.  My mom has taught Gospel Doctrine so well and for so many years that she carries a chalk pen in her purse.  Every day.  Just in case.  Always ready with the scripture reference.  Always ready with the Journal of Discourses quote.</p>
<p>I’m just saying:  Don’t mess with my mom. You’ve been warned.  My mom rules.</p>
<p>I love you, Mom.  Happy Mother&#8217;s Day</p>
<h3><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/milk-and-cereal.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-11116" style="margin-left: 50px; margin-right: 50px; margin-top: 20px; margin-bottom: 20px;" title="milk and cereal" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/milk-and-cereal.jpg" alt="" width="118" height="150" /></a>Hawkgrrrl</h3>
<p>When I think of my mother it is usually as I hear her words escaping my mouth, or even just her tone.  I wonder how many generations of mothers have said these same words in this same tone.  My mother was a convert to the church when she was 28, and from her, I gained perspective on spiritual matters like meaningful dreams, being willing to do something even without rational justification, and a healthy dislike for intolerant and judgmental attitudes (that differ from my own anyway).  In addition to these gifts, my mother gave me important life skills like a ruthless German efficiency (we both have the milk put away before it ever hits the cereal), a strong commitment to order and cleanliness, above average vocabulary and spelling ability, cheap-skatery (that has served me well!), and a strong independent streak coupled with a sense of adventure.  And above all these gifts, I will always be grateful for the moments in life when my mother defended me against injustices, protected me from my own worst instincts, and cut me slack when I didn&#8217;t deserve it.  To me, those are the hallmarks of motherhood.  I love you, mom!</p>
<h3>A very Happy Mother&#8217;s Day to your mothers and ours!</h3>
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		<title>Reform Mormonism a Poll</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have recently come across a group called Reform Mormonisim. I thought their views were interesting and as I mentally answered some of their questions here I was surprised how much of it resonated with me. What I did feel in the end after reading much of their thoughts and material is why bother!! Why not become a nontheist Unitarian. Is it worth all the effort when there must be other religions very close to the same theology? Hopefully we can get someone from their church to answer that question I have added a poll to this and must apologize to those at Reform Mormonism and to the readers at Mormon Matters in that they are totally paraphrased and maybe (unintentionally )taken out of context. So please go here to see them on their web page. What they believe here Reform Mormonism is a home-based, personal philosophy. A day of rest is held wherever one is at; there are no church services. Reform Mormonism does have special temple ordinances, that are designed to aide a person throughout their life, that are conducted in dedicated temple spaces. Unlike the LDS, they do not perform any temple ordinance for the deceased. Reformed [...]]]></description>
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<p>I have recently come across a group called <a title="Reform  Mormonism" href="http://www.reformmormonism.org/index.html">Reform Mormonisim</a>. I thought their views were interesting and as I mentally answered some of their questions <a href="http://www.reformmormonism.org/lib/youmight.htm">here</a> I was surprised how much of it resonated with me.<span id="more-10920"></span></p>
<p>What I did feel in the end after reading much of their thoughts and material is why bother!! Why not become a nontheist Unitarian. Is it worth all the effort when there must be other religions very close to the same theology? Hopefully we can get someone from their church to answer that question</p>
<p>I have added a poll to this and must apologize to those at Reform Mormonism and to the readers at Mormon Matters in that they are totally paraphrased and maybe (unintentionally )taken out of context. So please go <a href="http://www.reformmormonism.org/lib/youmight.htm">here</a> to see them on their web page.</p>
<p>What they believe <a href="http://www.reformmormonism.org/whatwebelieve.htm">here</a></p>
<p>Reform Mormonism is a home-based, personal philosophy. A day of  rest is       held wherever one is at; there are no church services. Reform  Mormonism       does have special temple ordinances, that are designed to aide a  person       throughout their life, that are conducted in dedicated temple  spaces. Unlike       the LDS, they do not perform any temple ordinance for the deceased.</p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial">Reformed Mormonism are  individuals who have moved away from organized  religion and have       found peace and satisfaction in concentrating on the important  things in       life. We&#8217;re just like you &#8211; parents, children, brothers, sisters,  friends       and partners. We&#8217;ve settled on a personal philosophy that makes  sense in       the 21st century. It&#8217;s personal,  important, and best of all, it  isn&#8217;t       scary like so many churches these days.</span></p>
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		<title>Kudos to the Church!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We spend a lot of time in the bloggernacle analyzing, critiquing, and otherwise discussing the church and its culture. I think there is value in this for those of us who need this type of engagement. However, Mormonism (like many other religions) is a topic that few are able to dispassionately discuss. Some of us lean toward criticism, others toward apologizing. I do not know how those in the b&#8217;nacle (those who actually read what I write) perceive me, but my posts are not exactly oozing with praise most of the time! But I want to give credit where credit is due. If you have not seen the church&#8217;s new Combating Pornography website, may I suggest you check it out. It is not just for those struggling with the addiction of pornography (yes, I said addiction), but for spouses of those struggling, parents, leaders, etc. I think everyone could glean some useful insight about an epidemic that has proved to invade nearly every life in one way or another. In short, I think the site is brilliant, and I give much kudos to the church for the content and purpose. I really think it&#8217;s great! Here&#8217;s what I like about [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We spend a lot of time in the bloggernacle analyzing, critiquing, and otherwise discussing the church and its culture.  I think there is value in this for those of us who need this type of engagement.  However, Mormonism (like many other religions) is a topic that few are able to dispassionately discuss.  Some of us lean toward criticism, others toward apologizing.  I do not know how those in the b&#8217;nacle (those who actually read what I write) perceive me, but my posts are not exactly oozing with praise most of the time! <img src='http://mormonmatters.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>But I want to give credit where credit is due.  If you have not seen the church&#8217;s new <a href="http://combatingpornography.org">Combating Pornography</a> website, may I suggest you check it out.  It is not just for those struggling with the addiction of pornography (yes, I said addiction), but for spouses of those struggling, parents, leaders, etc.  I think everyone could glean some useful insight about an epidemic that has proved to invade nearly every life in one way or another.</p>
<p>In short, I think the site is brilliant, and I give much kudos to the church for the content and purpose.  I really think it&#8217;s great!  Here&#8217;s what I like about it:</p>
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<li> The star <a href="http://combatingpornography.org/cp/eng/individuals/overcome/article/understanding-the-addictive-nature-of-pornography">article</a> (IMHO) is a well researched, well documented, elaboration on the nature of pornography addiction, by a renowned expert in the field.  The second to last paragraph is my favorite:<br />
<blockquote><p>Why is it important to understand that compulsive pornography use is an actual addiction?  By recognizing this, we will treat it with the respect required to overcome an addiction. For instance, no spiritual leader would tell a member who confesses an alcohol addiction to pray and repent without recommending counseling and 12-step support in such programs as the Addiction Recovery Program with LDS Family Services and Alcoholics Anonymous. Similarly, with the proper perspective on sexual addiction, we should also recommend that those afflicted with pornography and other sexual addictions, in addition to proceeding through the steps of repentance, will also seek recovery with therapy and group support.</p></blockquote>
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<li> The site references sources and scholarship about overcoming pornography.  While I am not a social worker, or clinical psychologist, I recognize the most commonly accepted patterns in treating addiction/depression.  See <a href="http://combatingpornography.org/cp/eng/individuals/recognize/article/a-road-map-for-recovery-leaving-pornography-addiction-and-discovering-life">here</a>,  and <a href="http://combatingpornography.org/cp/eng/individuals/overcome/article/the-road-back-abandoning-pornography">here</a> for great examples.</li>
<li> There is practical advice in Mormonism&#8217;s favorite form &#8211; a <a href="http://combatingpornography.org/cp/eng/individuals/overcome/article/avoiding-slip-ups">checklist</a>. <img src='http://mormonmatters.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </li>
<li> There is a good mix of emphasis on moral cleanliness, openness in discussing human sexuality, physical reality, and spiritual ideology.  When I read the articles I get the impression that we&#8217;re not in the business of simply condemning this as sin and parroting to people they &#8220;pray and read scriptures&#8221; more diligently.  We are acknowledging a deeper problem in human psychology/biology that warrants our most sincere efforts.</li>
<li> The church is sincerely dedicated to helping people with this problem.  There are conference talks (at least one every six months), there is a website, there are very inexpensive counselling and other professional services, there is a booklet and associated meetings for overcoming addiction, etc.</li>
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<p>I really do believe that the LDS church does a lot of great things in this world.  There are people who are hurt by the culture, there are social and cultural problems I wish were different, and there are issues in our theology that don&#8217;t work for me.  But for this very uncertain Mormon, I am truly grateful to be a part of an organization that does try, in many ways, to influence people for the better.</p>
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		<title>White and Delightsome or Pure and Delightsome? (Cognitive dissonance 2)</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2010/04/20/what-will-it-be-white-and-delightsome-or-pure-and-delightsome-cognitive-dissonance-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’m 1/16 th Chippewa and don’t even look a little Indian! I figure from my knee down is pure Chippewa and  for whatever reason  I am pretty proud of that. In the afterlife if possible I would like that section preserved if God sees fit.  Below is my Great Grandmother and Grandmother &#8212; you can see even from one generation to the next how things change. I would also like to see my ancestors who are pure Chippewa with all their beautiful dark skin and get to know them as they were living on the earth before God changes their skin colour to white. We have met an Elder who the sisters of all ages seem to swoon over &#8212; he is half Tongan and half Hawaiian. There is no other way to put it but he is a lady killer! We discussed this subject, and it doesn’t seem to bother him if the doctrine does literally mean white and not pure.  He doesn&#8217;t mind if he becomes white in the afterlife. It seems to disturb me more than it does him. It’s something he and his family have come to grips with. I guess I better get down to what [...]]]></description>
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<p>I’m 1/16 th Chippewa and don’t even look a little Indian! I figure from my knee down is pure Chippewa and  for whatever reason  I am pretty proud of that. In the afterlife if possible I would like that section preserved if God sees fit.  Below is my Great Grandmother and Grandmother &#8212; you can see even from one generation to the next how things change.<span id="more-10643"></span></p>
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<p>I would also like to see my ancestors who are pure Chippewa with all their beautiful dark skin and get to know them as they were living on the earth before God changes their skin colour to white.</p>
<p>We have met an Elder who the sisters of all ages seem to swoon over &#8212; he is half Tongan and half Hawaiian. There is no other way to put it but he is a lady killer! We discussed this subject, and it doesn’t seem to bother him if the doctrine does literally mean white and not pure.  He doesn&#8217;t mind if he becomes white in the afterlife. It seems to disturb me more than it does him. It’s something he and his family have come to grips with.</p>
<p>I guess I better get down to what has caused my dissonance.   Here are some statements by the prophets about a Book of Mormon passage found in <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=2+ne+30:6&amp;do=Search">2 Nephi 30:6</a> regarding a change Lamanites would experience if they embraced the Book of Mormon.  In every edition save one (1840), the words &#8220;white and delightsome&#8221; were used.  In the 1981 edition, the editors reverted to the 1840 edition&#8217;s &#8220;pure and delightsome&#8221; wording.</p>
<p><strong>Prophet Statements</strong></p>
<p><strong>President Brigham Young </strong><br />
&#8220;You may inquire of the intelligent of the world whether they can tell why the aborigines of this country are dark, loathsome, ignorant, and sunken into the depths of degradation &#8230;When the Lord has a people, he makes covenants with them and gives unto them promises: then, if they transgress his law, change his ordinances, and break his covenants he has made with them, he will put a mark upon them, as in the case of the Lamanites and other portions of the house of Israel; but by-and-by they will become a white and delightsome people.&#8221; (Journal of Discourses 7:336)</p>
<p><strong>W.W. Phelps to Brigham Young quoting Joseph Smith: </strong></p>
<p>&#8220;It is my will, that in time, ye should take unto you wives of the Lamanites and Nephites that their posterity, may become white, delightsome and just.&#8217;&#8221; In the 8 December 1831 Ohio Star, Ezra Booth wrote of a revelation directing Mormon elders to marry with the &#8220;natives.&#8221; (Sunstone, November 1993, footnote #5, pg. 52)</p>
<p><strong>Apostle Spencer W. Kimball</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today&#8230;. The day of the Lamanites is nigh. For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised. In this picture of the twenty Lamanite missionaries, fifteen of the twenty were as light as Anglos, five were darker but equally delightsome. The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation. At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl&#8211;sixteen&#8211;sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents&#8211;on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather&#8230;.These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.&#8221; (Apostle Elder Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference Address, April 1, 1967)</p>
<p><strong>2 Nephi 5:21</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, and they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.&#8221;</p>
<p>3 <strong>Nephi 2:12-15</strong> teaches that dark-skinned Lamanites who converted unto the Lord had their curse taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;White&#8221; versus &#8220;Pure&#8221; (Maxwell Institute)</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>According to the 1830 edition of the Book of Mormon, Nephi, speaking of the latter-day restoration, discussed the future conversion of Lehi&#8217;s descendants: &#8220;And then shall they rejoice; for they shall know that it is a blessing unto them from the hand of God; and their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and a delightsome people&#8221; (2 Nephi 30:6). In 1840 the Book of Mormon was &#8220;carefully revised by the translator,&#8221; Joseph Smith, and in that edition the expression &#8220;white and delightsome&#8221; was changed to &#8220;pure and delightsome.&#8221; This change seems to reflect the Prophet&#8217;s concern that modern readers might misinterpret this passage as a reference to racial changes rather than to changes in righteousness. Possibly his sojourns in Ohio and Missouri had altered his perspective of the racial connotations of the term <em>white</em> in the contemporary United States, particularly among slaves and slaveholders. He may not have gained much understanding of this matter during his upbringing in New England and New York State, where slavery was not as common.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for subsequent Latter-day Saint interpreters, following the Prophet&#8217;s death the changes in the 1840 edition of the Book of Mormon were not carried over into subsequent printings, which were instead based on an edition prepared by the Twelve Apostles in Great Britain after a copy of an earlier edition. The apostles, being in England, were not familiar with the 1840 edition. Consequently, Latter-day Saints did not reap the benefit of the Prophet&#8217;s clarification until it was restored in the 1981 edition of the Book of Mormon.  Some critics have been fond of citing statements of earlier Latter-day Saint leaders, who once interpreted 2 Nephi 30:6 to mean that conversion leads to a change of skin color; however, to use such statements today is anachronistic at best and disingenuous at worst since these statements were all expressed previous to the 1981 correction and merely echo a misinterpretation of the Book of Mormon text rather than the authoritative text itself. Moreover, a change in Lamanite skin color was clearly never intended by the &#8220;white/pure and delightsome&#8221; passage that the Prophet Joseph modified because it does not refer to the Lamanites at all, but to the Nephites and Jews in the latter days who turn to Christ (see 2 Nephi 30:1—7).</p>
<p>But is the Prophet&#8217;s change from &#8220;white&#8221; to &#8220;pure&#8221; justified in the scriptural context? The answer is yes. The terms <em>white</em> and <em>pure</em> are used synonymously in Daniel 7:9, Revelation 15:6, and Doctrine and Covenants 110:3. They are also found together in a number of passages where they clearly refer to those who are purified and redeemed by Christ (Alma 5:24; 13:12; 32:42; Mormon 9:6; D&amp;C 20:6). Similarly, Mormon expressed the hope that the Nephites &#8220;may once again be a delightsome people&#8221; (Words of Mormon 1:8).</p></blockquote>
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<p>Where I have dissonance or questions</p>
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<li>Is from how I understand the Book of Mormon and statements of past prophets contradict our view of it being pure today.</li>
<li>There has been no church conference talk that I am aware of clarifying the teachings of the past prophets i.e. President Kimball white vs pure. Many members I would suggest aren’t clear on our past beliefs and our current progressive belief on pure.</li>
<li>If these were president Kimball’s own personal views why haven’t the church come out with a statement expounding on this?</li>
<li>As a church, are we resolute that this was a clarification of the word white &#8212; never meant to refer to a person with dark skin pigmentation who would turn white upon a conversion to the gospel; but referring to a cleaner state of heart? This hypothesis in my mind fails to make clear other passages in the Book of Mormon that still make a connection with &#8220;iniquity&#8221; and skin color. See, for example, <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?type=references&amp;last=2+ne+30:6&amp;help=&amp;ro=checked&amp;search=2+ne+5:21%0D%0A&amp;do=Search&amp;show=">2 Nephi 5:21</a> as well as past prophet statements.</li>
<li>Why did it take God 140 years to clarify this misunderstanding?</li>
<li>If we quote what President Kimball said in 1967 conference would we be considered anachronistic today?</li>
<li>Is FARMS saying Apostle Kimball’s views are out of date , old fashioned, obsolete?</li>
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		<title>A Tribute to Charity</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My father had a stroke on Wednesday. The artery in his neck is 95% blocked, and he will have surgery to try to correct that problem next Wednesday. Since my New Year&#8217;s Resolution posts on my personal blog this month are focused on charity envying not, I want to repost something that I wrote a little over two years ago when one of my nieces died unexpectedly. Much of what I know of charity envying not (and charity in totality) was learned by watching my father &#8211; particularly as he laid down his own life for the woman he loves. He never once begrudged what he might have had, but rather did what it took to serve his family and others in his own, individual, consciously chosen path. I hope someday I will be as good a man as he is. Here are some edited excerpts of what I wrote in November of 2007: My mom has a rare form of schizophrenia. My father was unaware of this, as was everyone else (including my mother), when they got married. He found out after the birth of my sisters (twins), when she was overwhelmed and her mind wouldn’t shut down and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father had a stroke on Wednesday. The artery in his neck is 95% blocked, and he will have surgery to try to correct that problem next Wednesday. Since my New Year&#8217;s Resolution posts on my personal blog this month are focused on charity envying not, I want to repost something that I wrote a little over two years ago when one of my nieces died unexpectedly.</p>
<p>Much of what I know of charity envying not (and charity in totality) was learned by watching my father &#8211; particularly as he laid down his own life for the woman he loves. <strong>He never once begrudged what he might have had, but rather did what it took to serve his family and others in his own, individual, consciously chosen path</strong>. I hope someday I will be as good a man as he is.</p>
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Here are some edited excerpts of what I wrote in November of 2007:</p>
<blockquote><p>My mom has a rare form of schizophrenia. My father was unaware of this, as was everyone else (including my mother), when they got married. He found out after the birth of my sisters (twins), when she was overwhelmed and her mind wouldn’t shut down and allow her to sleep. She had what was termed a nervous breakdown, which led to her clinical diagnosis.</p>
<p>From that moment forward, my dad shielded my mom from every care of the world so her condition would stay in remission, if you will. By all practical measures, he became my father and my mother. They had four children, but my mom wanted more, so he agreed &#8211; knowing that meant his responsibilities would increase accordingly. Ultimately, they had eight. He shouldered all of the financial, household, emotional, physical, disciplinary, organizational, educational, etc. responsibilities for his family and allowed his wife to be seen by the community as the incredibly spiritual woman we knew as our mother &#8211; a modern Mormon saint. People in town admired his work ethic, but they never realized what he was doing behind our doors &#8211; <strong>because he never once mentioned it in any way to anyone</strong>.</p>
<p>Until her first breakdown, my father served in various leadership positions in the Church &#8211; for example, serving in a Bishopric before the age of 30. <strong>After that, he literally laid down the life he had been pursuing and focused on serving my mother</strong>. He waited nearly 30 years to serve in another position that required he spend significant time away from home &#8211; until his children were gone and my mom could function without the stress associated with raising them. He left an extremely well paying job with incredible advancement opportunities to go back to the small town where my mom was raised, simply to ease her stress and allow her to function normally. <strong>He became an elementary school janitor for over 20 years, took a 50% pay cut and focused on loving and serving his kids &#8211; both at home and at his school &#8211; in relative poverty. </strong></p>
<p>Not holding a high-profile church position or good-paying job, he came to be known in town as a salt-of-the-earth farm boy &#8211; a good man, but certainly not a leader. I bought into that perception until my mother’s second breakdown a few years ago, when her “sleeping pills” stopped working and her whole personality changed. It was only after this experience that I finally saw my father for what he is &#8211; <strong>as close an example of the Savior’s single-minded dedication to service and family as anyone I have ever known</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>(The full post can be read at: <a href="http://thingsofmysoul.blogspot.com/2007/10/my-niece-died-this-morning.html">http://thingsofmysoul.blogspot.com/2007 &#8230; rning.html</a>)</p>
<p>So much of what we discuss so passionately in the Bloggernacle is important and interesting and stimulating and fun . . . and ultimately meaningless when placed next to charity and the lives of good, humble men and women. </p>
<p>Today, as I contemplate charity envying not, I think of a man lying in a hospital &#8211; robbed of the physical strength and vitality that allowed him to work multiple jobs for years to provide for his familty and allow his beloved to remain at home and undistracted by the real world around her. I think of a man who lived the life he felt was required of him given his covenants and responsibilities &#8211; even though that life brought unexpected hardships and sacrifice.</p>
<p>I spoke with him last night, and the voice I heard was foreign to me. It hit me for the first time in real terms that my father is an old man &#8211; and that he now will need to receive the same type of care and attention that he gave so freely for decades. I only hope that others respond and serve him as he served them so unselfishly and charitably &#8211; <strong>but, in the spirit in which he raised me, I will not judge or condemn them if they do not</strong>.</p>
<p>I love you, Dad &#8211; and I will be grateful eternally that I learned at the feet of such a wonderful, Christlike man.</p>
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		<title>From Patriarchy to Eternity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bored in Vernal</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am going to put this as simply as possible, and let&#8217;s start with a definition.  Patriarchy is a social system in which the father or eldest male is head of the household, having authority over women and children. Patriarchy also refers to a system of government by males, and to the dominance of men in social or cultural systems.  I know that this is a true definition, having found it on Wikipedia. However, if you disagree, scroll down and I will include definitions from as many dictionaries as I can google.  Patriarchy by its very definition is not compatible with equality. Equality is the quality of being the same in quantity or measure or value or status.  I realize that it has become politically correct to describe our LDS families as simultaneously patriarchal and equality-based.  But this is linguistically impossible. (Whew. I&#8217;m having uncontrollable urges to type in all caps.)   The Proclamation on the Family attempts to describe a family situation where fathers are responsible to preside and provide but at the same time both partners are obligated to help one another as equal partners. In order to do this, Mormons attempt to change the definition of patriarchy [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-7683" title="Avatar-BiV" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51-150x150.jpg" alt="Avatar-BiV" width="80" height="80" /></a>I am going to put this as simply as possible, and let&#8217;s start with a definition.  Patriarchy is a social system in which the father or eldest male is head of the household, having <strong>authority</strong> over women and children. Patriarchy also refers to a system of government by males, and to the <strong>dominance</strong> of men in social or cultural systems.  I know that this is a true definition, having found it on Wikipedia. However, if you disagree, scroll down and I will include definitions from as many dictionaries as I can google.  Patriarchy by its very definition is not compatible with equality.<span id="more-9659"></span></p>
<p>Equality is the quality of being the same in quantity or measure or value or status.  I realize that it has become politically correct to describe our LDS families as simultaneously patriarchal and equality-based.  But this is linguistically impossible. (Whew. I&#8217;m having uncontrollable urges to type in all caps.)   The <a href="http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,161-1-11-1,00.html">Proclamation</a> on the Family attempts to describe a family situation where fathers are responsible to preside and provide but at the same time both partners are obligated to help one another as equal partners.</p>
<p>In order to do this, Mormons attempt to change the definition of patriarchy to something that has little or no meaning. The patriarch in a family, they insist, does not hold the power or authority over his wife to the extent that it would negate her equality.  Instead, he merely calls the family together for spiritual activities and invites a family member to say the prayer.  As<a href="http://ldsdoctrine.blogspot.com/2007/07/lds-patriarchy.html"> one blogger</a> so succinctly stated it, <span style="color: #993300;">&#8220;The patriarch is the presiderer, not the deciderer.&#8221;</span> He further explains:</p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #993300;"><em>&#8220;Men and women are consider to be of equal status in the LDS church&#8230;Because childbirth and child-rearing tends to be spiritually sanctifying endevers for women, the priestood assigns men spiritual duties that they would not normally take on themselves&#8230; How does this presiding business affect decision-making? Not much. When my wife and I make a decision, we make it together. I would never just tell my wife, &#8216;I am the deciderer.&#8217; In conclusion, God has given that men preside because of our lack of spiritual fitness. We need the exercize.&#8221;</em></span></p>
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<p>Unfortunately, this blogger not only needs work on spelling words which begin with &#8220;e,&#8221; he also needs to look up the definition of the word &#8220;preside.&#8221; This word, far from softening the meaning of patriarchy, only serves to reinforce:</p>
<p>Preside &#8212; To occupy or hold a position of <strong>authority</strong>, as over a meeting. To possess or exercise <strong>power or control</strong>.</p>
<p>If the LDS Church is to move to a stance of equal partnership within the family, they really have no choice but to lose the words &#8220;patriarchal&#8221; and &#8220;preside&#8221; with respect to the position a husband holds in the home.</p>
<p>&#8220;But BiV,&#8221; you say.  &#8220;We&#8217;ve been over this ground many times before.  Why bring it up again?&#8221;</p>
<p>I bring it up because I fear that with the attempt to soften the rhetoric of patriarchy/presiding in the home and make it compatible with equality, our members are <a href="http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/02/01/women-men-and-the-fall/#comment-174481">losing the sense</a> that patriarchy is a social construct (see our definitions below).  There is no necessity to consider patriarchy an eternal condition.  I prefer to look at patriarchy as a negative effect of the Fall (thy desire shall be to thy husband and he shall rule over thee) which will be ameliorated in the eternal realm.  President Spencer W. Kimball wrote a foreward to the Brigham Young University publication of Hugh W. Nibley&#8217;s discourse on the ideal of marriage in God&#8217;s Eden and stated:</p>
<blockquote><p>“There is no patriarchy or matriarchy in the Garden; the two supervise each other … and [are] just as dependent on each other.”</p></blockquote>
<p>We do not know exactly what Priesthood and Priestesshood will look like in a post-mortal condition.  But we have been taught that equality will be restored.  Elder James E. Talmage wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>“It is not given to woman to exercise the authority of the Priesthood independently; nevertheless, in the sacred endowments…woman shares with man the blessings of the Priesthood.” Talmage then hints at a greater sharing of priesthood in the next life: “When the frailties and imperfections of mortality are left behind, in the glorified state of the blessed hereafter, husband and wife will administer in their respective stations, seeing and understanding alike, and co-operating to the full in the government of their family kingdom.” (&#8220;The Eternity of Sex,&#8221; YW Journal 25 (October 1914): 602-603)</p></blockquote>
<p>The shift to an equality-based home in recent times is commendable.  I feel it more accurately represents the balance of power and oneness which will prevail in the eternal realms.  A majority of two-parent LDS homes today are organized around an ideal expressed by Gordon B. Hinckley as follows:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;In this Church the man neither walks ahead of his wife nor behind his wife but at her side. They are coequals&#8230;  Since the beginning, God has instructed mankind that marriage should unite husband and wife together in unity.  Therefore, there is not a president or a vice president in a family. The couple works together eternally for the good of the family. They are united together in word, in deed, and in action as they lead, guide, and direct their family unit. They are on equal footing. They plan and organize the affairs of the family jointly and unanimously as they move forward.&#8221; ( <em>Ensign,</em> Nov. 1996, 49.)</p></blockquote>
<p>If this egalitarian goal is to be accomplished, the competing words &#8220;patriarch&#8221; and &#8220;preside&#8221; must be eliminated from the description of family dynamics. They are not useful in encouraging the father to play a more active role in the spiritual life of his family. Instead, the rhetoric should change to more concisely describe the desired result.  Why not urge fathers to become more involved in spiritual instruction, or to more enthusiastically model religious behaviors, if that is what we mean by &#8220;presiding?&#8221;<br />
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<p>Patriarchy:</p>
<ul>
<li>A form of social organization in which the father is the <strong>supreme authority</strong> in the family, clan, or tribe (Random House Dictionary)</li>
<li>A social system in which the father is the head of the family and men have <strong>authority</strong> over women and children. (The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language)</li>
<li>A family or society in which <strong>authority</strong> is vested in males, through whom descent and inheritance are traced. (American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy)</li>
<li>Social system in which the father or a male elder has absolute <strong>authority</strong> over the family group; by extension, one or more men (as in a council) exert absolute <strong>authority</strong> over the community as a whole. (Encyclopedia Britannica)</li>
<li>Social organization marked by the <strong>supremacy</strong> of the father in the clan or family, the legal dependence of wives and children, and the reckoning of descent and inheritance in the male line; <em>broadly</em> <strong>:</strong> <strong>control</strong> by men of a disproportionately large share of<strong> power </strong>(Merriam-Webster&#8217;s Online Dictionary)</li>
<li style="color: black;"><span class="DEFINITION">a society, system, or organization in which men have all or most of the <strong>power and influence</strong> (Macmillan Dictionary)</span></li>
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		<description><![CDATA[A close friend of mine who wishes to remain anonymous recently saw in the shadow of the temple his story follows In October, I was fortunate to attend the Portland, Oregon, screening of the movie, In the Shadow of the Temple. http://www.intheshadowofthetemple.com The screening was hosted by the producers, Karen Di Millia and Dennis Lavery. Prior to the screening Dennis and Karen spoke for 10 minutes and explained how they started this project. After the screening they took questions and answers for roughly 30 minutes. Lavery and DeMillia, who are not&#8211;and never have been&#8211;LDS, originally planned to make a movie about people who had left the religion of their youth. They attended a meeting of the Portland Humanist Society, explained their project, and asked if anyone had such stories they would be willing to share. In the course of discussing the project with members of the society, they were told that who they really needed to talk to was Sue Emmett, who had left the LDS church. After talking with Sue and others with whom she put them in touch, they decided to re-focus their project on the experience of those who have left the LDS church. They did hundreds [...]]]></description>
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<p>A close friend of mine who wishes to remain anonymous recently saw in the shadow of the temple his story follows</p>
<p>In October, I was fortunate to attend the Portland, Oregon, screening of the movie, In the Shadow of the Temple. <a href="http://www.intheshadowofthetemple.com/">http://www.intheshadowofthetemple.com </a>The screening was hosted by the producers, Karen Di Millia and Dennis Lavery. Prior to the screening Dennis and Karen spoke for 10 minutes and explained how they started this project. After the screening they took questions and answers for roughly 30 minutes.</p>
<p>Lavery and DeMillia, who are not&#8211;and never have been&#8211;LDS, originally planned to make a movie about people who had left the religion of their youth. They attended a meeting of the Portland Humanist Society, explained their project, and asked if anyone had such stories they would be willing to share. In the course of discussing the project with members of the society, they were told that who they really needed to talk to was Sue Emmett, who had left the LDS church. After talking with Sue and others with whom she put them in touch, they decided to re-focus their project on the experience of those who have left the LDS church.<span id="more-8674"></span></p>
<p>They did hundreds of hours of interviews over two years and edited it down to a 55 minute film. The film is very moving&#8211;a tribute to those who shared their stories as well as DeMillia and Lavery&#8217;s videography and editing skills.</p>
<p>About two dozen people appear in interviews in the film. Each story is unique, but a common thread runs throughout them all. All faced a similar rejection by family, friends and community.  Some of those interviewed have left the church. Others no longer believe, but remain active because of family or community pressure. The latter are filmed in shadows, to obscure their identity. The film refers to these people as “Shadow Mormons.” They define &#8220;Shadow Mormons&#8221; as those who privately do not accept the exacting doctrine of the Church, but publicly profess to be true believers. They are in shadow to protect their relationships with family, friends and employers.</p>
<p>Someone commented to me after the film, “That&#8217;s you. You&#8217;re a Shadow Mormon.”</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m a Shadow Mormon. Maybe that&#8217;s why this film hit me so hard. I haven&#8217;t believed in over 20 years – most of my adult life. Yet, during that time I&#8217;ve paid my tithing, gone to the temple, served in bishoprics and high councils and done all the things that were expected of me. Why? Because I am tied to the church by family and community.</p>
<p>The story of &#8220;Grace&#8221; (not her real name) resonated with me because it was so similar to mine. Her pain, and anger, were born of all the energy she has given to a religion that she doesn&#8217;t believe in. Finding out that the Church was not true was like a death experience for her. Like me, she tried following the Church&#8217;s teachings to fast, pray, read the scriptures and yet never felt she received the &#8220;burning in her bosom&#8221; that is promised in the scriptures.</p>
<p>What of the families and communities of these people? What are their stories, their experiences with loved ones who go through a process of losing belief and leaving the church. Only one person who was a family or friend agreed to be interviewed for the film. The believing husband that was interviewed told how he still loved his wife, even though she has left the church. What about the others? Are they embarrassed to say that the Church was more important than their relationship with the person who left?</p>
<p>The saddest stories, to me, were of divorce caused by one spouse believing and the other not believing. Michelle (another woman interviewed in the film) said her heart was broken that her husband would choose the Church over her. He told their marriage therapist that if she had not been Mormon he never would have married her. &#8220;There was more to me than being a Mormon,&#8221; she said.  &#8220;And I thought that there was more to him.&#8221;</p>
<p>The dictionary defines empathy as “the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.” We could all use a little more empathy for those around us. I have had several people tell me, “I can&#8217;t imagine how a person could leave the church.” Either they need a better imagination or they need more empathy.  Maybe they just need to see this film.</p>
<p>One of the questions at the screening&#8211;one that Lavery could not answer&#8211;was, “How do we get the right people to see this film?” Sadly, many members of the church would not even consider it. (It screened in Salt Lake City in October and got almost no media coverage.) The film does not try to de-convert anyone or disparage the doctrine of the church. It doesn&#8217;t assert that someone is right because he or she believes, or that someone else is right because he or she leaves the church. This film is about accepting people regardless of what they believe, and about how we treat those who believe differently than we do. I wish every member of the church could see this film.</p>
<p>Film Trailer: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICbylWK-i2Q&amp;NR=1">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICbylWK-i2Q&amp;NR=1</a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICbylWK-i2Q&amp;NR=1"></a></p>
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		<title>Temple Wedding Petition</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A temple wedding petition to is being circulated to promote love and happiness in the family by changing the church&#8217;s stance on civil marriages preceding temple weddings. The petition requests that the leadership of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints make it acceptable to have a civil marriage ceremony first, if desired, and then giving the couple the necessary time to attend the temple for the sealing ordinance as they do in those countries whose laws require it.  (The petition is not endorsed by Mormon Matters; this information is being shared for discussion as a news item). In the following video which lasts about 2 minutes, Jean talks about the stigma some members may feel if they choose a civil wedding ceremony. The other preseding videos last approximately 2 minutes each. Temple Wedding Petition 3 Here Temple Wedding Petition 1 Here Temple Wedding Petition 2 Here Temple Wedding Petition .org here The actual petition is found here I was raised in a part member family and remember when my brother was married my parents were disappointed that they weren&#8217;t able to go to the temple and see their son get married. It would have been nice for our family [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-8498" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Petition-274x300.jpg" alt="Petition" width="274" height="300" />A temple wedding petition to is being circulated to promote love and happiness in the family by changing the church&#8217;s stance on civil marriages preceding temple weddings. The petition requests that the leadership of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints make it acceptable to have a civil marriage ceremony first, if desired, and then giving the couple the necessary time to attend the temple for the sealing ordinance as they do in those countries whose laws require it.  (The petition is not endorsed by Mormon Matters; this information is being shared for discussion as a news item).</p>
<p>In the following video which lasts about 2 minutes, Jean talks about the stigma some members may feel if they choose a civil wedding ceremony. The other preseding videos last approximately 2 minutes each.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PdS1u8LeJU&amp;NR=1">Temple Wedding Petition 3 Here</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwEpA-lFsX8&amp;NR=1"><span id="more-8492"></span>Temple Wedding Petition 1 Here</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf3JPeT69Lg&amp;NR=1">Temple Wedding Petition 2 Here</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.templeweddingpetition.org/">Temple Wedding Petition .org here</a></p>
<p>The actual petition is found <a href="http://www.templeweddingpetition.org/enter/4952.html">here</a></p>
<p>I was raised in a part member family and remember when my brother was married my parents were disappointed that they weren&#8217;t able to go to the temple and see their son get married. It would have been nice for our family to have seen it. I wonder if it makes non- members, or those on the fringe, feel excluded from the church and may damper future missionary work with families. I live in England and it&#8217;s the law that there is a civil wedding which usually takes place in the chapel.</p>
<p>Recently a nephew was married and was schedueled to get married in the Salt Lake temple. Because much of the family couldn&#8217;t witness the wedding they decided last minute to have a civil wedding. He and his wife since their marriage enjoy going to the temple but have to wait a year now to be married in the temple.</p>
<p>I wonder if there is a church loophol if you want your non- member family to see your wedding you could get married in America and fly to a country where the church allows civil marriages followed by a temple marriage after?</p>
<p>What are your thoughts and experiences?</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Just to make it very clear that there is no advocacy on the part of MM</strong></span>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PdS1u8LeJU&amp;NR=1"></a></p>
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		<title>The Single Mormon Girl and the Priesthood</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everybody blogs, right? Why not me? Looking for my niche, my angle, and the one thing that seemed to make me stand out in my corner of the world. I found it: Being single. And 40. And Mormon. In a family ward. In a town where EVERYONE is under 30, sealed in the temple and constantly reproducing. The best humor is found in our painful life experiences. Read about mine and laugh with me. Or at me. Whichever This subject can be a tricky one. Gone are the days when a woman NEEDS a man for anything. We earn our own money, buy our own homes, travel alone, and live alone, but&#8230; we don&#8217;t  have the priesthood.  We need men for the priesthood. When I was married, Mr. Soldier of Fortune was a non member, so the priesthood was somewhat of a non issue. We lived close enough to my parents that on the rare occasions I was sick or otherwise needed a blessing I could go to my dad. I was young, invincible, and though the absence of priesthood crept into my consciousness every once in a while, I didn&#8217;t think about it much. Then came my nightmare of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody blogs, right?  Why not me?  Looking for my niche, my angle, and the one thing that seemed to make me stand out in my corner of the world. I found it: Being single. And 40. And Mormon. In a family ward. In a town where EVERYONE is under 30, sealed in the temple and constantly reproducing. The best humor is found in our painful life experiences. <a href="http://singlemormonchick.blogspot.com/">Read</a> about mine and laugh with me. Or at me. Whichever<span id="more-8279"></span><br />
This subject can be a tricky one. Gone are the days when a woman NEEDS a man for anything. We earn our own money, buy our own homes, travel alone, and live alone, but&#8230; we don&#8217;t  have the priesthood.  We need men for the priesthood.<br />
 When I was married, Mr. Soldier of Fortune was a non member, so the priesthood was somewhat of a non issue. We lived close enough to my parents that on the rare occasions I was sick or otherwise needed a blessing I could go to my dad. I was young, invincible, and though the absence of priesthood crept into my consciousness every once in a while, I didn&#8217;t think about it much. Then came my nightmare of a divorce and I was in so much emotional pain, I could hardly move. My family, seeing what I had been through, were sympathetic (they love me), but they were relieved to see my marriage over. I didn&#8217;t feel like I could go to my dad for a blessing of comfort when I knew that deep inside himself he was jumping for joy that Mr Soldier of Fortune was out of my life. I had been inactive for the majority of my marriage, but the year or so prior to our break up, I had started going back. No one really knew me. I usually just stayed for sacrament, but a few had introduced themselves and I was assigned home  teachers.</p>
<p>All that have been through an ugly divorce know that the pain can come in waves. Some you can stand against as the water rushes over you. Others are like a tsunami that sucks you in and spits you out in hostile and unfamiliar terrain. It was a tsunami day when I called my bishop and asked if he could come to my house and give me a blessing. I had caught him at a bad time; he was walking out the door to go somewhere with his wife. I apologized over and over and told him not to worry about it, but he came over anyway(it might have been the my unsuccessful attempts to hide the tears in my voice). I felt so embarrassed, but he gave me a lovely blessing that truly got me through a particularly dark period.</p>
<p>For several years after I divorced, I had no desire to date. the legal proceedings drug out(thanks to him)and I was determined not to get involved with anyone until the divorce was final. I had kind of settled into being single and I actually liked it. I worked hard, had fun with my friends, traveled, and pretty much did whatever I wanted to do. I was pretty active in a family ward that didnt treat me as some freak of nature because I wasn&#8217;t married. Life was good.Then I read an article in the Ensign about how people in the church are choosing not to marry and that it was considered a troublesome trend in our culture. It pointed out the commandments regarding marriage and encouraged single church members  not  disregard marriage as a worthy goal in  life. For the first time in 7 years I thought those words were written for me-a revelation of sorts. Most of the men I met didn&#8217;t seem to take their priesthood too seriously. Some had arrogantly lived beneath their privilege, unashamed of the covenants they broke, not sure if they even wanted to be in good standing with the church again. There were parts of me that held the priesthood in some disregard, sometimes even mild contempt. Heavenly Father had not blessed me with a faithful husband who honored his priesthood, so maybe this was just one of the many blessings that would not be mine in this life.</p>
<p>In more recent years, my heart has  softened on this subject. Going to the temple for the first time to receive my own endowment made me more aware of the eternal necessity of the priesthood. If you are a TBM(as I am)then you know in order to be exalted you must enter into the new and everlasting covenant of marriage. Sealed in the temple for time and all eternity. More priesthood.The first time I felt truly moved was about 3 years ago when I witnessed a baby blessing. It was a young father, a recent convert to the church, blessing his baby. He had invited quite a few men to stand in the circle and bless this tiny spirit so new to this world. They gathered and  formed the circle, placing one hand under the baby and the other on the shoulder of the elder next to him. It moved me that these men were joined in such a tender act and when the blessing ended and after the baby was shown to the congregation, there were warm embraces and slaps on the shoulder. For the first time I yearned to have an eternal companion I loved to be standing in one of those circles.</p>
<p>Late last year all the priesthood holders in my ward sang as a choir. I dont remember the song, but to see all of those men standing behind the pulpit singing, literally moved me to tears. Then today, the youth speaker canceled and the bishop(last minute) asked the three priests in our ward to share their favorite scripture and explain what it meant to them. These young men did fantastic. You could tell they were a little nervous, but they had scriptures ready and spoke in such a way that i was impressed with their conviction. I got a little misty seeing these young men, future missionaries, husbands, and fathers grow in their faith before my eyes. It&#8217;s somewhat affirming to know there are still men in the church who take the priesthood seriously.<br />
Can we bridge the ever growing  gap that exists between strong and effective women who don&#8217;t &#8220;need&#8221; a man, but require the priesthood in order to gain the exaltation we strive for?</p>
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		<title>Great Expectations: What Are Your Hopes and Predictions for General Conference?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;It&#8217;s the MOST WONderful TIIIME of the YEARRRRRR.&#8221;  The leaves are starting to change color. The evenings and mornings are a bit crisper. Even the birds&#8217; singing suddenly sounds sweeter than ever. General Conference must be coming this weekend. Twice a year, I can&#8217;t help formulating hopes and expectations, or making predictions about what we might hear in the next General Conference. There are a few things that are givens. We can expect to hear spiritual messages that transcend the issues discussed most often on LDS blogs. We can expect to hear speakers relate sincere, heart-felt experiences that bring comfort to those who are struggling with loneliness, loss, sickness, guilt, or feelings of inadequacy. Those are messages I know I can expect to hear every conference.  But the anticipation that slowly builds in my mind over the couple weeks before Conference is whether we will hear anything about the issues typically discussed in the Bloggernacle by those for whom the Church is more than a religion or a lifestyle, and who make a hobby out of studying Mormonism from an academic standpoint. Major changes in the Church have been announced at General Conferences in the past, and when the Ninth [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7657" title="pres monson chair" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/pres-monson-chair-150x150.jpg" alt="pres monson chair" width="150" height="150" />&#8220;It&#8217;s the MOST WONderful TIIIME of the YEARRRRRR.&#8221;  The leaves are starting to change color.  The evenings and mornings are a bit crisper. Even the birds&#8217; singing suddenly sounds sweeter than ever.</p>
<p>General Conference must be coming this weekend.</p>
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<p>Twice a year, I can&#8217;t help formulating hopes and expectations, or making predictions about what we might hear in the next General Conference.  There are a few things that are givens.  We can expect to hear spiritual messages that transcend the issues discussed most often on LDS blogs.  We can expect to hear speakers relate sincere, heart-felt experiences that bring comfort to those who are struggling with loneliness, loss, sickness, guilt, or feelings of inadequacy.  Those are messages I know I can expect to hear every conference.  But the anticipation that slowly builds in my mind over the couple weeks before Conference is whether we will hear anything about the issues typically discussed in the Bloggernacle by those for whom the Church is more than a religion or a lifestyle, and who make a hobby out of studying Mormonism from an academic standpoint.</p>
<p>Major changes in the Church have been announced at General Conferences in the past, and when the Ninth Article of Faith tells us that God &#8220;will <span style="text-decoration: underline;">yet</span> reveal  <span style="text-decoration: underline;">many</span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">great</span> and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">important</span> things pertaining to the Kingdom of God,&#8221; I can&#8217;t help wondering whether any of those &#8220;great and important things&#8221; will come out this Conference.</p>
<p>I invite you to express your own hopes, expectations, and predictions for this coming General Conference in the comment section below.  But before doing so, I&#8217;d like to share with you a few of mine.</p>
<p><strong>1.  Consensus and Clarity About the Nature of Revelation</strong></p>
<p><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7660" title="51" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/51-150x150.gif" alt="51" width="150" height="150" />I have come to believe we are a bit schizophrenic in the Church when it comes to defining and explaining what &#8220;revelation&#8221; is, particularly as it applies to revelations received by the Prophets and Apostles.  Some Church leaders and members seem to view revelation as a process whereby God transmits his exact thoughts and words directly to the Prophet, who then passes them on to us without any human interference or input, such that revelations handed down by the Prophets are completely free from any human considerations (e.g. economic, political) in their origin, and completely free from any human error in the Prophet&#8217;s perception and interpretation of what he believes God told him.  Some LDS apologists have referred to this version of revelation as reflecting a &#8220;fundamentalist&#8221; mindset, so for the sake of ease I&#8217;ll refer to this as the &#8220;Fundamentalist Version&#8221; of revelation.  The Fundamentalist Version of revelation is usually presented when Church leaders are trying to create unity and motivate members to rally around a particular program or policy and carry it out without question or challenge. The Fundamentalist Version creates compliance and squashes dissent because if we view revelation as a pure transmission of God&#8217;s will devoid of any human imperfections, then members will feel no room to question or refuse to comply, and Church leaders will feel divinely justified in reprimanding and punishing those who do.  A few examples of scriptures or quotes used to support the Fundamentalist Version of revelation are: &#8220;whether it be from my mouth or the mouth of my servants, it is the same&#8221; or &#8220;the Prophet will never lead us astray.&#8221;  And when something the Prophet says or does seems not to make sense, the scripture &#8220;[God's] ways are higher than [man's] ways&#8221; is often invoked, the implication being that if what the Prophet says or does doesn&#8217;t make sense, it must be because it is one of those &#8220;higher&#8221; divine truths, rather than because the Prophet has made a human error.  The Fundamentalist Version of revelation seems simple, clear, and provides a feeling of comfort and safety to people looking for a reliable guide to help them navigate through the perils and uncertainties of the world.  But this Fundamentalist Version of revelation also has a significant downside: it creates an image of Prophets as being men who do not err in their revelations, so when people encounter evidence that seems to overwhelmingly demonstrate that Prophets past and present <em>have</em> erred, this Fundamentalist Version of revelation provides no framework to reconcile those obvious human errors with the belief that so-and-so was a genuine Prophet of God.  In other words, the Fundamentalist Version of revelation creates the expectation that Prophets and their revelations are <em>infallible</em>, because despite the occasional acknowledgements of prophetic fallibility <em>in theory</em>, telling people that whatever the <em>Prophet</em> says is what <em>God</em> says creates an illusion of prophetic infallibility <em>in practice</em>.  As a result, when Church members who embrace the Fundamentalist Version of revelation encounter convincing proof of human error in the statements or actions of Prophets (and if the Internet provides us an accurate glimpse, there are <em>many</em> such people) they become disillusioned and stop believing in the concept of revelation altogether.</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7661" title="95josephfaceinhat" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/95josephfaceinhat-150x150.gif" alt="95josephfaceinhat" width="150" height="150" />However, there is another version of revelation within the Church, one which has long existed alongside this Fundamentalist Version in our scripture and in Church leaders&#8217; statements.  And because it has become so popular with LDS Apologists, we could call it the Apologist Version of revelation.  In the Apologist Version, revelation is understood to be a collaborative process between a perfect, omniscient God and imperfect men with limited understanding who &#8220;see through a glass, darkly.&#8221;  In the Apologist Version, we understand that revelation is a transmission of divine knowledge oftentimes received as somewhat vague &#8220;impressions&#8221; that can be misperceived and misinterpreted by fallible men who have cultural biases, human passions, political and economic considerations, and pride.  As a result, we hope and expect that revelations will <em>usually</em> reflect God&#8217;s will on at least a <em>general</em> level, but we recognize that sometimes those revelations will err in their specifics, or (hopefully rarely) be wrong altogether.  This version of revelation is usually presented in the context of apologetics when responding to uncomfortable evidence that seems to conclusively demonstrate that the statements or policies of past or present Prophets and Apostles have been in error.  Thus, the Apologist Version of revelation is often used to persuade someone that he should not lose his testimony of Joseph Smith as a Prophet because it allows someone like Joseph Smith to inadvertently mix human errors into his revelations and still be a Prophet.  In support of this version of revelation, apologists cite the acknowledgments in the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants that God&#8217;s servants &#8220;err&#8221; in ways that are eventually &#8220;made known&#8221; but that their revelations should be heeded nonetheless.  Or we find the Apologist Version of revelation in Joseph Smith&#8217;s famous quotes that &#8220;some revelations are from God, some are from man, and some are from the devil&#8221; or that &#8220;a prophet is only a prophet when he speaks as a prophet.&#8221;   The overall idea presented in this version of revelation is that it sometimes contains human errors, and therefore we ought to <em>expect</em> to find such errors without losing our testimony of Church leaders&#8217; prophetic callings when we do.  Of course, the drawback of the Apologist Version of revelation from the perspective a Church leader is that it causes some Church members to feel free to doubt, question, challenge, or refuse to comply with the Prophet&#8217;s purported revelations on the grounds that they reflect the will of man rather than the will of God.  And such doubting and dissent is a hindrance to administrative effectiveness in <em>any</em> organization.</p>
<p>Because I see these two different versions of revelation existing within the Church, anytime the subject of revelation comes up in a talk, either directly or indirectly, my ears always perk up and I listen closely to which version is being presented: the Fundamentalist Version or the Apologist Version.  Overall, it&#8217;s my feeling that the Fundamentalist Version of revelation is most often presented in sermons and lessons by both Church leaders and members, with a sprinkling of the Apologist Version from time to time, such as when uncomfortable situations arise where it become necessary to acknowledge prophetic error in attempt to save someone from losing his testimony altogether.  However, I think anyone who has been paying attention to FARMS, FAIR, and the Church&#8217;s media and public affairs departments have good cause to believe that the Apologist Version of revelation is becoming more popular and is being invoked more frequently, perhaps in an effort to stem the flow of folks losing their testimonies over troublesome episodes in Church history that seem to reflect human error in Church leadership.  So with the Church&#8217;s media and public affairs folks quoting apologists with seemingly increasing frequency, I am constantly curious to see whether and when the Apologist Version of revelation will become the dominant version of revelation presented by Church leaders at General Conference.</p>
<p>Very briefly, four more issues I&#8217;m always wondering whether will be addressed:</p>
<p><strong>2.  A clearly-worded, official repudiation of the statements made by past Church leaders to support the pre-1978 priesthood ban for African Americans.</strong> The policy changed in 1978, but there was never an accompanying clear, official renunciation of the many statements that past Church leaders had made to support it.  Many of those statements are still sitting on Church members&#8217; bookshelves at home.  And when people ask the understandable question of why the ban was ever instituted in the first place, those old statements, some of which are extremely hurtful, are sometimes trotted out by misguided members.  We know a committee was formed to draft such a statement several years ago, and there were high hopes such a statement would be presented at the 20-year and 30-year anniversaries of the rescission of that ban, but it didn&#8217;t come.  Will it come this Conference?</p>
<p><strong>3.  Will we receive messages aimed at preparing Church members to continue to generously donate their time and money to support legislation to prevent Same-Sex Marriage?</strong> Or will the negative backlash from some quarters regarding the Church&#8217;s heavy involvement in Prop. 8 result in a more moderate approach that simply &#8220;encourages&#8221; members to do so, but this time without creating a mechanism of administrative enforcement for that &#8220;encouragement&#8221;?  I have heard anecdotal stories about General Authorities saying that Prop. 8 was nothing compared to what the Church will be doing in the future, so we shall see what comes out about that topic in Conference.</p>
<p><strong>4.  Clarification about what the &#8220;central&#8221; components of the Restored Gospel are.</strong> Recently, a notable LDS apologist who specializes in Egyptology and the Book of Abraham, Dr. John Gee, gave a talk in which he provided a list of what was &#8220;central&#8221; to the Restored Gospel.  His list included the Book of Mormon, but excluded the book of scripture that he has researched and defended for so long: the Book of Abraham.  Dr. Gee&#8217;s speech prompted discussion about the criteria for determining what the &#8220;central&#8221; components of the Restored Gospel are, and also fueled speculation about whether Dr. Gee&#8217;s exclusion of the Book of Abraham reflected a lack of scholarly confidence in Joseph Smith&#8217;s claims about that book of scripture in attempt to establish a &#8220;fall back position&#8221; where the Church can argue that academic challenges to the Book of Abraham should not undermine anyone&#8217;s testimony of Joseph Smith&#8217;s status as a Prophet on the theory that the book is &#8220;not central to the Restored Gospel.&#8221;  Was Dr. Gee&#8217;s statement a prelude to a change in the way the Church views, teaches, and uses the Book of Abraham?  My guess is probably not; the Church seldom seems to move that quickly.  But the Church&#8217;s relatively recent revision of the Introduction to the Book of Mormon, which was preceded by an emerging consensus among LDS scholars that the Book of Mormon action took place within a limited geography rather than upon the entire American Continent, demonstrates that these types of issues are receiving the attention of the General Authorities, and that the General Authorities are willing to adjust the Church&#8217;s claims about its books of scripture.  So perhaps something is in the works on this issue.</p>
<p><strong>5.  Warnings, admonishments, and clarifications about what the General Authorities view as being appropriate and inappropriate online discussion of LDS doctrine and history. </strong> Elder Ballard&#8217;s recent encouragement to become involved in online discussions about the Church seems to have enlarged the pool of Mormons participating in the Bloggernacle and other online discussion fora.  However, it seems only a matter of time that Church leaders will recognize that Church members&#8217; increased involvement in online discussions about Church history and doctrine will only increase the likelihood that they will come into contact with uncomfortable information that they otherwise would not have encountered.  Around 20 years ago, Elder Oaks delivered an address in which he warned Church members about participating in symposia and becoming involved with &#8220;alternate voices.&#8221;  But Elder Ballard&#8217;s encouragement to become involved in the world of online discussions seems to have departed from that approach, or to have at least created ambiguity about the degree to which faithful Church members should be involving themselves in online discussions and debates, even with the intent to defend the Church.  Will the General Authorities issue any warnings or admonishments about the &#8220;proper&#8221; way to discuss Church topics online, or the &#8220;proper&#8221; online fora to visit?  If so, it seems Elder Ballard would be the most likely Apostle to deliver that message.</p>
<p>Overall, I should say my expectations are not high that issue #2 will receive any mention in Conference.  While I do believe it is possible, it seems the Church prefers to make such statements more quietly in between Conferences, rather than making any sort of dramatic public announcement that will attract attention to an uncomfortable topic.  But I do think it&#8217;s very possible we will hear messages addressing issues #3 , #4, and #5.</p>
<p>So, what are your hopes, expectations, or predictions for this coming General Conference?</p>
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		<title>&#8220;Ich Bin Ein Pioneer&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Spector</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post was originally scheduled to appear on Pioneer Day, but I had a bit of an accident and had knee surgery the day before, so I was not able to post it.  Since we&#8217;ve been discussing pioneers in Sunday School the last couple of weeks, it is, at least, timely for that reason. Many Mormons are very proud of their pioneer heritage as well they should be.  After the death of Joseph Smith, thousands of Mormons hit the dusty trail between the years of 1847 and 1869.  Ultimately, 70,000 would make the over 1000-mile journey from the Midwest to Salt Lake City and the surrounding area.  In addition to wagon trains and handcarts, 238 Saints made the journey by sea, a 24,000-mile trip aboard the ship, Brooklyn, from New York to Yerba Buena (present day San Francisco). These Saints, came not only from Nauvoo, but from the eastern US and many countries of Europe as well. One can only wonder what they thought as they looked out over the wide-open spaces and thought, &#8220;We&#8217;re going how many miles?  In a wagon, on foot or pushing a handcart?&#8221; But, they did because they believed.  Ultimately, they had faith.  They wanted [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post was originally scheduled to appear on Pioneer Day, but I had a bit of an accident and had knee surgery the day before, so I was not able to post it. <img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-7424" style="border: 3px solid black;margin: 0px" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/ArtBook__102_102__HandcartPioneersApproachSLValley____-300x199.jpg" alt="ArtBook__102_102__HandcartPioneersApproachSLValley____" width="272" height="180" /> Since we&#8217;ve been discussing pioneers in Sunday School the last couple of weeks, it is, at least, timely for that reason.</p>
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<p>Many Mormons are very proud of their pioneer heritage as well they should be.  After the death of Joseph Smith, thousands of Mormons hit the dusty trail between the years of 1847 and 1869.  Ultimately, 70,000 would make the over 1000-mile journey from the Midwest to Salt Lake City and the surrounding area.  In addition to wagon trains and handcarts, 238 Saints made the journey by sea, a 24,000-mile trip aboard the ship, Brooklyn, from New York to Yerba Buena (present day San Francisco).</p>
<p>These Saints, came not only from Nauvoo, but from the eastern US and many countries of Europe as well. One can only wonder what they thought as they looked out over the wide-open spaces and thought, &#8220;We&#8217;re going how many miles?  In a wagon, on foot or pushing a handcart?&#8221;</p>
<p>But, they did because they believed.  Ultimately, they had faith.  They wanted to reach Zion.  Some turned back, deciding they were not up to the journey or possibly, didn&#8217;t believe enough, not unlike today.  There was hardship, disease and death, but the great majority of those who set out, made it.</p>
<p>I took my title from the famous speech, &#8220;Ich Bin Ein Berliner&#8221; (I am a Berliner) given by President John F. Kennedy in West Berlin on June 26, 1963.  He was showing the solidarity and support of the people of the United States for West Germany 22 months after the Soviet-supported Communist state of East Germany erected the Berlin Wall as a barrier to prevent movement of people between East and West.</p>
<p>Like many others who have joined the Church, I too, made a pioneering journey, from Judaism to Mormonism.  As the only members from our respective families, my wife and I left our religions to embrace what we believe is the true Church of Jesus Christ.  Much to our family&#8217;s dismay, I might add.</p>
<p>We are not alone as pioneers.  Millions have chosen to embrace the Gospel and join the Church.  I truly marvel at the fact so many from outside the North America continent can embrace what was an &#8220;American Church.&#8221; Such that now there are more members outside the United States than inside.  Not all who join stay.  But a great many do.</p>
<p>Are you a pioneer?  Do you have that pioneer spirit?</p>
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		<title>How Our Families Can Help Families Around the World Escape Poverty</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A year ago my wife and I were struggling to find ways to teach our children the importance of helping those in need, and lamented the fact that despite our knowing there are millions of families around the world who need help, we felt virtually powerless to make any significant difference in their lives. And although we were grateful for the opportunity to make monetary donations to the Church&#8217;s humanitarian program, we felt that writing a check quite wasn&#8217;t enough to help our children understand the challenges so many of the world&#8217;s families face; nor did it allow our children to witness the results of our family&#8217;s contributions. At the time, I was reading Muhammad Yunus&#8217; book, Banker to the Poor, in which he relates how he, as an Economics professor in Bangladesh, helped create a micro-lending bank that makes small loans to the poor so they can quit their exploitative jobs, start their own businesses, and climb out of poverty. Yunus explains how traditional aid programs, which typically rely on the UN and government agencies as &#8220;middle men&#8221; to administer aid, have a proven track record of gross inefficiency and failure spanning several decades. His micro-lending operation, and many [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7327" title="387937" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/387937-150x150.jpg" alt="387937" width="150" height="150" />A year ago my wife and I were struggling to find ways to teach our children the importance of helping those in need, and lamented the fact that despite our knowing there are millions of families around the world who need help, we felt virtually powerless to make any significant difference in their lives. And although we were grateful for the opportunity to make monetary donations to the Church&#8217;s humanitarian program, we felt that writing a check quite wasn&#8217;t enough to help our children understand the challenges so many of the world&#8217;s families face; nor did it allow our children to witness the results of our family&#8217;s contributions.<span id="more-7159"></span></p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-7186" title="muhammad-yunus" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/muhammad-yunus-150x150.jpg" alt="muhammad-yunus" width="129" height="129" />At the time, I was reading Muhammad Yunus&#8217; book, <a href="http://www.bankertothepoor.com/bankertothepoor/">Banker to the Poor</a>, in which he relates how he, as an Economics professor in Bangladesh, helped create a micro-lending bank that makes small loans to the poor so they can quit their exploitative jobs, start their own businesses, and climb out of poverty.  Yunus explains how traditional aid programs, which typically rely on the UN and government agencies as &#8220;middle men&#8221; to administer aid, have a proven track record of gross inefficiency and failure spanning several decades.  His micro-lending operation, and many others like it, cut out the bureaucratic middle-men so that the money intended for the poor actually makes it to the poor. By working with impoverished communities around the world, Yunus learned first-hand that the poor are willing and able to work, but simply lack the capital needed to start their own businesses.  By providing loans that must be repaid, rather than giving away handouts, Yunus and micro-lenders like him &#8220;teach a man to fish&#8221; by enabling the poor to break out of the poverty cycle and support themselves.</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7187" title="kiva_logo" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/kiva_logo-150x150.jpg" alt="kiva_logo" width="132" height="132" />When I discussed all this with a friend, Stephen Wellington, he told me <a href="http://www.kiva.org/about">Kiva.org</a> was exactly what I was looking for.  And he was right.  Kiva builds on the work of Yunus and others by taking their micro-lending model to the next level.   Using the Internet, Kiva enables regular people like you and me to make micro-loans as small as $25 to people all over the world who want to lift their families out of poverty by starting their own businesses.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a typical example of how Kiva works: a family in Cambodia grows rice, but is barely subsisting.  They could greatly increase their rice production if they had a new plow and some fertilizer, but they don&#8217;t have the money for it.  So they submit a loan application for $600 to a local mico-lending agency<img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-7178 alignleft" title="Cambodia" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Cambodia-150x150.jpg" alt="Cambodia" width="150" height="150" /> in Cambodia that partners with Kiva.  The family&#8217;s loan request is then posted on Kiva, and that&#8217;s when the loan fund-raising begins.  With just a few mouse clicks, regular folks like you and me all over the world can pool our contributions of as little as $25 each to reach the $600 total that the family needs.  Once the loan money has been raised, Kiva sends it to the local micro-lending agency, which disburses the loan funds to the family in need.  Every month, the family makes small re-payments to the local micro-lending agency in Cambodia, which are sent back to Kiva and put in your Kiva account.  When you receive a monthly repayment, you can either cash out and get your money back, or re-loan the money to another family in need.</p>
<p>This month is our family&#8217;s one-year anniversary with Kiva.  A year ago we spent a Family Home Evening with our children reviewing loan requests on <img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7190" title="fhe10" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/fhe101-150x150.jpg" alt="fhe10" width="150" height="150" />the Kiva website.  Because we were new to Kiva and therefore a little uncertain about its reliability, we decided to loan an amount of money that we thought could make a difference in a few families&#8217; lives, but that was small enough that we could accept losing completely if it all turned out to be a scam.  So we took $500 and divided it amongst a few families from a few different countries: the Cambodian family already mentioned; a mother in Peru needing funds to expand her door-to-door grocery business; a father in Mongolia needing funds to repair his mini-bus for his transportation business; a father in the Philippines needing funds to expand his small hog farm; a mother in Senegal needing funds to buy ice-cream making equipment, etc.</p>
<p>As we received the monthly re-payments, we immediately re-loaned the money in $25 increments to other families.  We also received Kiva video updates from the field about the families we were assisting. (See an example <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofLQtOnADko">here</a>.)  These video updates provided our children with a window to the world, showing them how families around the world struggle to support themselves, and helping our children develop a greater awareness of, and desire to help, those in need.</p>
<p>So what were the results of our family&#8217;s first year experimenting with Kiva?  With just our $500 initial contribution of loan funds, which we re-loaned to other families in $25 increments as loans were repaid, we were able to:</p>
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<li>Make a total of 40 loans . . .</li>
<li>in a total amount of $1,275 . . .</li>
<li>to families in 21 different countries (Azerbaijan, Bolivia, Cambodia, Dem. Rep. of Congo, Dominican Republic, Ghana, Indonesia, Kenya, Mongolia, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Rwanda, Senegal, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Togo, Uganda, and Ukraine) . . .</li>
<li>$783 of which has already been repaid . . .</li>
<li>with a delinquency rate (late payments) of 7.38% . . .</li>
<li>and a default rate of 6.25 % (higher than the Kiva average of 1.65%) . . .</li>
<li>meaning our total loss after one year has been only $25 (one loan in the Dominican Republic).</li>
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<p>Our family&#8217;s contribution has been just one tiny drop in the ocean of Kiva lending.  Just last week on Kiva: 3,629 new lenders joined; 11,207 lenders made a loan; 2,344 entrepreneurs were funded; and $752,850 was lent, at a rate of one loan every 23 seconds.</p>
<p>Overall, our family has fallen in love with the concept of micro-lending, because we&#8217;ve discovered that by re-lending funds as they are repaid, we were able to do $1,275 worth of good with our $500 initial contribution of loan funds.  Over the coming years, the amount of good that $500 initial contribution does will only multiply.  And with a loss of only one $25 loan that defaulted, we&#8217;ve learned that Kiva, its field partners, and its borrowers are trustworthy enough to continue lending to them for years to come.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comment on any of the following articles – or anything else from the sidebar – or any other article of interest to this forum that we missed. There is no such thing as being normal If Kaimi were in dire straits, he would prefer to render unto Caesar what is Caesar&#8217;s Apparently, marriage is hard work Gayby Boomers? Silly name, interesting phenomenon An explanation for Utah bankruptcies I don&#8217;t think PETA would approve of this Aren&#8217;t you glad we have calculaors? Even Orson Scott Card realizes that Mormonism is a culture Another reason to have more kids &#8211; Placenta Helper The Bible &#38; Book of Mormon don&#8217;t teach of THIS Holy Ghost New Dehli: New gay rights in a deeply conservative country]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://betchadidntknow.blogspot.com/2009/07/are-you-normal.html">There is no such thing as being normal </a></p>
<p><a href="http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/07/misguided-faith/">If Kaimi were in dire straits, he would prefer to render unto Caesar what is Caesar&#8217;s </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1908243,00.html">Apparently, marriage is hard work </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife/06/28/gayby/index.html">Gayby Boomers? Silly name, interesting phenomenon </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_12668785">An explanation for Utah bankruptcies </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0suNdrQK13o">I don&#8217;t think PETA would approve of this </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIiDomlEjJw">Aren&#8217;t you glad we have calculaors?</a></p>
<p><a href="http://mormontimes.com/mormon_voices/orson_scott_card/?id=9578">Even Orson Scott Card realizes that Mormonism is a culture </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1908194,00.html">Another reason to have more kids &#8211; Placenta Helper </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&amp;sid=7024344">The Bible &amp; Book of Mormon don&#8217;t teach of THIS Holy Ghost </a></p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090702/ap_on_re_as/as_india_gay_rights">New Dehli: New gay rights in a deeply conservative country </a></p>
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		<title>mothers really are the primary nurturers</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have long been dismayed by the seemingly arbitrary idea that mothers should be first in charge of nurturing their children, with fathers there to step in and &#8220;help&#8221; as an equal partner. I have recently received some &#8220;further light and knowledge&#8221; on this topic. For the past three years or so I have become very interested in attachment theory. Basically, it says that we have an evolutionary necessity to seek out closeness or security to significant others. It ensures survival as the infant seeks proximity to its caregiver. Without emotional connection and touch, infants will die despite having their other needs met. As adults, it is more emotional than physical. Think of Tom Hanks&#8217; character in Cast Away. Isolated from society and separated from the one he loves, he creates his friend Wilson to keep him company, even risking his life once to save Wilson. This basic attachment need is with us from the &#8220;cradle to the grave.&#8221; 1  Whether we deny it, ignore it, ramp it up and become overly anxious, or embrace it, it is there to stay&#8211;in all of us. Infants have a hierarchy of attachment figures&#8211;usually but not always a relative. The primary attachment figure [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have long been dismayed by the seemingly arbitrary idea that mothers should be first in charge of nurturing their children, with fathers there to step in and &#8220;help&#8221; as an equal partner. <span id="more-5971"></span></p>
<p>I have recently received some &#8220;further light and knowledge&#8221; on this topic. For the past three years or so I have become very interested in attachment theory. Basically, it says that we have an evolutionary necessity to seek out closeness or security to significant others. It ensures survival as the infant seeks proximity to its caregiver. Without emotional connection and touch, infants will die despite having their other needs met.</p>
<p>As adults, it is more emotional than physical. Think of Tom Hanks&#8217; character in Cast Away. Isolated from society and separated from the one he loves, he creates his friend Wilson to keep him company, even risking his life once to save Wilson. This basic attachment need is with us from the &#8220;cradle to the grave.&#8221; 1  Whether we deny it, ignore it, ramp it up and become overly anxious, or embrace it, it is there to stay&#8211;in all of us.</p>
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<p>Infants have a hierarchy of attachment figures&#8211;usually but not always a relative. The primary attachment figure is the one whom the child usually prefers when distressed, or whom the child seeks out, monitors, or attempts to maintain proximity to. Basically, the one whom the infant prefers to be <em>nurtured</em> by. It seems normal to assume that the parent who is around the child more, or is the most caring would naturally be the primary attachment figure. If the father is the stay-at-home parent, wouldn&#8217;t he be the primary attachment figure, i.e the primary nurturer?</p>
<p>Not in most cases. This role is usually given by mother nature to mothers, regardless of how involved she is with her child.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;The fact that infants preferentially seek proximity to their moth</em><em>er derives from the reality that attachment is mainly a function of availability. Interestingly&#8230;even when the mother works outside the home an</em><em>d the father is de facto the primary parent, the mother is still strongly preferred.&#8221; </em>2</p>
<p>One of the foremost attachment researchers, <a href="http://psychology.berkeley.edu/faculty/profiles/mmain.html" target="_blank">Mary Main</a>, suggests that this may be due to the infant&#8217;s prenatal experience. I wonder if there are any studies with primary attachment figures and adopted childr<img class="alignright" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XBUosZvaNC8/SNRp3RQoOII/AAAAAAAAAAM/7B2xRgznKj0/S220/DSC00200.JPG" alt="" width="220" height="147" />en.</p>
<p>This finding softened my feelings a bit. While I am certainly capable of nurturing my son, it is okay with me that he generally prefers my wife first&#8230; especially now that I understand it a little more. It also tells me that this part of the Proclamation is spot on. Mothers <em>are</em> the primary nurtures, AND there are cases where individual adaptation is better, or necessary.</p>
<p>1. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bowlby" target="_blank">John Bowlby</a></p>
<p>2. David Wallin, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Attachment-Psychotherapy-David-Wallin-PhD/dp/1593854560/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1245966084&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">Attachment in Psychotherapy</a></p>
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		<title>Heroes Are Hard to Find</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the recent revelation of unfaithfulness of some of our politicians (not that this is all that surprising), it seems that the circle of people that we can look up to is getting smaller and smaller. I was wondering who your heroes are these days? We glorify celebrity and sports figures, who make millions of dollars with little or no contribution to society other than to provide fodder for the tabloids.  Some look up to business leaders but they sometimes turn out to be giant frauds, like Bernard Madoff who rip off people and tend to put themselves first instead of their companies and employees. We have religious leaders who exemplify righteous principles, but we&#8217;ve seen just as many of those have issues as well with moral problems, money problems, abuse of power, etc. We can also look up to characters from the scriptures, but many believe those weren&#8217;t even real people. Many of us had excellent parents and view them as our heroes and examples for our lives, but there are also many who suffered at the hands of their parents. Maybe the concept of having heroes is out dated in our modern world?  What do you think? Do [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the recent revelation of unfaithfulness of some of our politicians (not that this is all that surprising), it seems that the circle of people that we can look up to is getting smaller and smaller.</p>
<p><span id="more-6106"></span>I was wondering who your heroes are these days?</p>
<p>We glorify celebrity and sports figures, who make millions of dollars with little or no contribution to society other than to provide fodder for the tabloids.  Some look up to business leaders but they sometimes turn out to be giant frauds, like Bernard Madoff who rip off people and tend to put themselves first instead of their companies and employees.</p>
<p>We have religious leaders who exemplify righteous principles, but we&#8217;ve seen just as many of those have issues as well with moral problems, money problems, abuse of power, etc. We can also look up to characters from the scriptures, but many believe those weren&#8217;t even real people.</p>
<p>Many of us had excellent parents and view them as our heroes and examples for our lives, but there are also many who suffered at the hands of their parents.</p>
<p>Maybe the concept of having heroes is out dated in our modern world?  What do you think?</p>
<p>Do you still have heroes?  Who are they and why?</p>
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		<title>Trying to Understand My Friends Who Didn&#8217;t Leave the Faith</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a modified excerpt from a 60-page writing that I made for close friends and family members when I decided to leave the church a few months ago. It was my attempt at helping them understand my view. I think most of them didn&#8217;t bother reading it. I wasn&#8217;t looking forward to the conversations that I would be having with them, but I was surprised to find myself not having those conversations. Today&#8217;s guest post is by Michael. In the spirit of Mormon Stories, he was invited to share his experience. I thought the people that believed in the church and loved me most in the would have at least tried to &#8220;save my soul.&#8221; I would have done it for them, had the roles been reversed. Although, it would have led me to the place where I am now, which may be the underlying (perhaps subconscious) reason why they don&#8217;t wish to go there. &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; If someone told me three years ago that I would be where I am now, I would have never believed them. And yet, here I am. A few years ago, I decided that I should probably learn more about church history. Not out [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a modified excerpt from a 60-page writing that I made for close friends and family members when I decided to leave the church a few months ago. It was my attempt at helping them understand my view. I think most of them didn&#8217;t bother reading it. I wasn&#8217;t looking forward to the conversations that I would be having with them, but I was surprised to find myself not having those conversations.</p>
<p><em><strong>Today&#8217;s guest post is by Michael. In the spirit of Mormon Stories, he was invited to share his experience.</strong><span id="more-5580"></span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="font-style: normal;">I thought the people that believed in the church and loved me most in the would have at least tried to &#8220;save my soul.&#8221; I would have done it for them, had the roles been reversed. Although, it would have led me to the place where I am now, which may be the underlying (perhaps subconscious) reason why they don&#8217;t wish to go there.</span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="font-style: normal;">&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="font-style: normal;">If someone told me three years ago that I would be where I am now, I would have never believed them. And yet, here I am. A few years ago, I decided that I should probably learn more about church history. Not out of pure interest, but more out of duty. I heard that the book &#8220;Joseph Smith: Rough Stone Rolling&#8221; was written by a member of the church, but didn&#8217;t give the usual sanitized version of history that is given in Sunday School. I was intrigued.</span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="font-style: normal;">I read the book. It was slow going, but I finished it. More than any of the strange practices or weird events, the thing that bugged me the most was Joseph Smith himself. I couldn&#8217;t place it at first, but I soon realized that I didn&#8217;t really like Joseph as a person. I felt kind of guilty about that because we have been raised, and it has been ingrained in us, to love Joseph and the other men of the restoration. My feelings of guilt were lessened a bit when I found out that I was definitely not the only one that felt that way. There were many others in the church that felt the same way. In fact, my dad bought a video that features a question and answer session with the author and even he admits that, by the time he was done with his research and writing, he did not like Joseph Smith either. </span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="font-style: normal;">When I finished with the book, it made me wonder: Maybe there was a reason why things were not sitting right with me and others. The Joseph we had been taught about growing up was not the real Joseph, so who was. Also, I wondered: If this book was written by a member, then how much of a positive slant is he putting on things? That&#8217;s when my journey really began. There are so many differing and conflicting accounts out there that I sometimes felt like a detective, trying to piece together what most made sense to me.</span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="font-style: normal;">As I said above, I went searching into church history as a kind of church duty. I felt that I ought to take a look into it. I thought that I would search things out and find that history would vindicate the church and the prophet. I believed (and believe) that the truth does not fear investigation and the facts would be overwhelmingly in favor of the church. I found the opposite to be the case. This mostly surprised me because of my father.</span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="font-style: normal;">He is well versed in church history, and I think I trusted heavily in his ability to interpret events. Sometimes, when I would find out something new, I would ask him, &#8220;Doesn&#8217;t this bother you?!?&#8221; He wouldn&#8217;t answer. At times I wondered why I was the only one who was bothered by some of the things I was finding. I wondered if I was the only crazy one or the only one who wasn&#8217;t. I couldn&#8217;t understand why, when I showed them a claim of the church or Joseph Smith and then showed them how that claim was in fact false, they didn&#8217;t seem to care. Well, I found out some interesting things related to that. Although most of the close people around me did not seem to want to face any of this stuff, I found out that I was not alone. Besides a number of people that I know that don&#8217;t believe, but are hanging on for various other reasons (family, friends, structure, etc.), there are many, many people leaving the church every year. It always helps a person fell less crazy when you know there are others making hard decisions like you.</span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="font-style: normal;">The other thing that made me understand the situation better, was something told to me by a friend. I mentioned to him that I could not understand why these things bugged me and no one else seemed to care. He said, &#8220;Ok, tell me something that bugs you.&#8221; So for the 20th time or so, I mentioned that Joseph Smith claimed to translate the Book of Abraham from Egyptian papyri. A decade after Joseph died, the Egyptian language was deciphered from the Rosetta Stone. Reading the papyri, it does not say what Joseph claims it said. When I gave him that one example, he went on to say that most people don&#8217;t think as much as I do, so they don&#8217;t let it bother them. Adding to that, he said, &#8220;Plus, it&#8217;s the Book of Abraham. Who cares about the Book of Abraham?&#8221; And then he ended, mentioning that some people will stay in for the sake of loyalty&#8211;they are Mormon and will always be Mormon.</span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="font-style: normal;">Those are ideas that had never really entered my mind. It had never really occurred to me that even if the facts were against the church, people would still remain in it. I was not sure which answer he gave me that bugged me the most. If he only knew how much the Book of Abraham feeds into his own belief system. How could he say, &#8220;Who cares about the Book of Abraham?&#8221; I mean, the teachings exclusive to Mormonism don&#8217;t come from the Book of Mormon. The Book of Mormon was written in such a way that it virtually does not stray from biblical teachings. There is little or nothing new in the doctrine from the Book of Mormon. It is the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price that set Mormon theology apart from &#8220;regular&#8221; Christian theology.</span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="font-style: normal;">These words of indifference, of not caring if it is true in the literal sense are so foreign to me. I first heard them from my best friend a few years ago, before I had ever expressed any doubts. As we passed by the house of a neighbor that had left the church after studying church history, he said, &#8220;I don&#8217;t understand Bro. So-and-So. I mean, even if I didn&#8217;t think the church was true, I wouldn&#8217;t leave it.&#8221; At that point, I blurted out a very loud, &#8220;WHAT?!? Are you serious?&#8221; He was. My other best friend who was also there that night is the one I mentioned in the above paragraph, who also doesn&#8217;t care about the church being true in any literal sense. Another close friend, for whom I was the best man at his temple wedding, wrote me an email when he found out that I had left the church. It was not what I expected. He congratulated me on doing what he said he never had the courage to do.</span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="font-style: normal;">Perhaps the most painful response was from my girlfriend. She told me she was proud of me and for what I was doing. She started calling me Winston (the main character from 1984, who rebels against Big Brother). It shocked me that she would say such a thing that seemed so telling to me, and it saddened me when she said she wouldn&#8217;t be joining me. In HER OWN ANALOGY she chose to love Big Brother.</span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="font-style: normal;">These people that have been such a large part of my life (three of the four I have known since we were children) now feel like strangers to me. Their way of thinking on this matter has never been an option for me. I have always considered such choices to be wrong, even in the best-case scenario, and in a worst-case scenario, downright evil. Although I don&#8217;t consider this a worst-case scenario, I am still left baffled that such good people would choose such a path. It would bother me less if they hadn&#8217;t all served missions and didn&#8217;t plan on teaching the rising generation that these beliefs are true. If they stand where they do, why are they passing the information on as truth? I am still working on the answer to that one. In the mean time, for the sake of preserving respect for my loved ones, I am forced to concede that making the choice to believe in something that you don&#8217;t truly think is reality, may not be as evil as I thought&#8230;</span></em></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[An article in Newsweek &#8220;Adventures in Good and Evil&#8221; made a few interesting points about why some people are good and some are evil. The article pointed out a few generalizations: In general, most people&#8217;s moral sense capitulates in the face of authority. The roots of our moral sense—of honesty, altruism, compassion, generosity and sense of justice and fairness—are sunk deep in evolutionary history, as can be seen in our primate cousins, who are capable of remarkable acts of altruism. People&#8217;s ethical decision making is strongly driven by gut emotions rather than by rational, analytic thought. We have gut feelings of what is right and what is wrong. Some other observations based on research to date: &#8220;We know that women tend to be more altruistic than men on average (nyah!), older people tend to be more altruistic than younger ones (sucks to be elderly), students are less altruistic than nonstudents (that was unexpected&#8211;I always donated plasma as a student, but mostly because I was broke!),&#8221; he says. &#8220;People with higher IQs tend to be more altruistic/cooperative (it&#8217;s true; we are!).&#8221; However, there is little or no correlation between altruism and standard personality traits such as shyness, agreeableness and openness to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>An article in <span id="lw_1241219123_0" class="yshortcuts" style="border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; cursor: pointer;">Newsweek</span> &#8220;<a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/195117">Adventures in <span id="lw_1241219123_1" class="yshortcuts">Good and Evil</span></a>&#8221; made a few interesting points about why some people are good and some are evil.<span id="more-5193"></span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/195117" target="_blank"></a></div>
<div>The article pointed out a few generalizations:</p>
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<li>In general, most people&#8217;s moral sense capitulates in the face of authority.</li>
<li>The roots of our moral sense—of honesty, altruism, compassion, generosity and sense of justice and fairness—are sunk deep in evolutionary history, as can be seen in our primate cousins, who are capable of remarkable acts of altruism.</li>
<li>People&#8217;s ethical decision making is strongly driven by gut emotions rather than by rational, analytic thought. We have <span id="lw_1241219123_3" class="yshortcuts">gut </span><span id="lw_1241219123_3" class="yshortcuts">feelings</span> of what is right and what is wrong.</li>
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<p>Some other observations based on research to date:</p>
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<div>&#8220;We know that women tend to be more altruistic than men on average <span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>(nyah!)</em></span>, older people tend to be more altruistic than younger ones <span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>(sucks to be elderly)</em></span>, students are less altruistic than nonstudents <span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>(that was unexpected&#8211;I always donated plasma as a student, but mostly because I was broke!)</em></span>,&#8221; he says. &#8220;People with higher IQs tend to be more altruistic/cooperative <span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>(it&#8217;s true; we are!)</em></span>.&#8221; However, there is little or no correlation between altruism and standard <span id="lw_1241219123_4" class="yshortcuts">personality traits</span> such as shyness, agreeableness and openness to new experiences.</div>
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<p>But these generalizations are limited and don&#8217;t explain why people fall at different ends of the spectrum or how to cultivate virtue as a society or raise children to be moral.</p>
<p>So, who tends to be more altruistic?</p>
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<div>A specific cluster of emotional traits seem to go along with compassion. People who are emotionally secure, who view life&#8217;s problems as manageable and who feel safe and protected tend to show the greatest empathy for strangers and to act altruistically and compassionately. In contrast, people who are anxious about their own worth and competence, who avoid close relationships or are clingy in those they have tend to be less altruistic and less generous.</div>
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<p>It seems that some church members and programs increase <span id="lw_1241219123_5" class="yshortcuts">emotional security</span> and self-reliance, while others may create fear and anxiousness. Maybe this is just personalities of individuals that come to the surface.</p>
<p>Both forgiveness and revenge have been useful human tactics through time for different reasons:</p>
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<div>both forgiveness and revenge &#8220;solved critical evolutionary problems for our ancestors.&#8221; <span id="lw_1241219123_6" class="yshortcuts" style="border-bottom: 1px dashed #0066cc; cursor: pointer;">Forgiveness</span> helps to preserve valuable relationships. Exacting revenge acts as a deterrent against attacks, cheating or freeloading. It also establishes the revenge taker as someone not to be crossed, preempting future attacks.</div>
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<p>Maybe the following explains &#8220;Mormon Persecution Complex&#8221; to some extent:</p>
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<div>When people can count on the rule of law to punish infractions, they are less prone to seek personal revenge. Conversely, when society lacks a mechanism to defend people&#8217;s rights, &#8220;parents teach their children to cultivate a tough reputation and not let anyone get away with messing with them,&#8221; McCullough says.</div>
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<div>So, parents who are protectionist, isolationist, provincial and defensive about being Mormons are going to perpetuate these &#8220;persecution&#8221; sentiments. Some recent JS lessons seem designed to do the same. Perhaps a few members of the correlation committee are of that type.</div>
<div>What do you think?  How can we raise kids who are good?  Where do we do well as a church, and where could we improve?  How can we drive out the fear-mongering and teach our kids to feel safe in society?  Discuss.</div>
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		<title>What Bothers Me, and Why I Still Believe</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am an active member of the church, and a believer. I am well aware of most of the controversial issues (Book of Abraham, DNA, Book of Mormon historicity, polyandry, etc.). Some of them occasionally bother me. Others do not. Although according to statistics I am very educated, I probably could not win an argument defending the church on any of those points. I could not support the church on Prop. 8, (if you want to specifically comment on that, please go here). I will probably never understand in this life why we are discouraged from praying to our Heavenly Mother, or why women are no longer allowed bless the sick. I am sure I could go on, and so could many of you. I occasionally get asked or read questions like, &#8220;If Joseph Smith made claims that were false, how can you believe any of his claims?&#8221; &#8220;When you line everything up, how can you still logically believe it to be true?&#8221; For anyone questioning the faith, or those who have left the church who may be reading this, feel free to mentally insert other questions here. They are all good and valid in my opinion. I do not fault [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an active member of the church, and a believer.</p>
<p>I am well aware of most of the controversial issues (Book of Abraham, DNA, Book of Mormon historicity, polyandry, etc.). Some of them occasionally bother me. Others do not. Although <a href="http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/QTTable?_bm=y&amp;-geo_id=01000US&amp;-qr_name=DEC_2000_SF3_U_QTP20&amp;-ds_name=DEC_2000_SF3_U&amp;-redoLog=false">according to statistics</a> I am very educated, I probably could not win an argument defending the church on any of those points. I could not support the church on Prop. 8, (if you want to specifically comment on that, <a href="http://www.shenpawarrior.com/2008/11/my-testimony-of-gospel-and-why-im.html" target="_blank">please go here</a>). I will probably never understand in this life why we are discouraged from <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=956a94bf3938b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;hideNav=1" target="_blank">praying to our Heavenly Mother</a>, or why women are no longer allowed bless the sick. I am sure I could go on, and so could many of you.</p>
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<p>I occasionally get asked or read questions like, &#8220;If Joseph Smith made claims that were false, how can you believe any of his claims?&#8221; &#8220;When you line everything up, how can you still logically believe it to be true?&#8221; For anyone questioning the faith, or those who have left the church who may be reading this, feel free to mentally insert other questions here. They are all good and valid in my opinion. I do not fault anyone for asking them, nor for being disturbed enough by them to leave the faith. Although my path is different, I wish you the best.</p>
<p>How do I explain my belief and activity in the church? Have I put &#8220;feelings&#8221; above reason?</p>
<p>I was raised by a saint of a mother and an intellectual yet very spiritual father. Church books lined the shelves: Quinn, Compton, and even Bagley&#8217;s Blood of The Prophets and Southerton&#8217;s Lost Tribe made appearances. On hunting trips my father would sometimes shoot his buffalo in the name of Allah (in Turkish) so our good Muslim friends could enjoy it with us. As bishop, he helped countless families regardless of legal status, blessed a neighbor&#8217;s sick cat, and was a safe haven for gay members to turn to. My parents left their ward a few years ago to attend a Hispanic branch, where they can do a lot more than debate in Sunday School over gospel minutiae. They taught me by word and example that serving and loving others always trumps theology.</p>
<p>As a priest I loved blessing the sacrament. It was probably the first time I felt a significant sense of the sacred&#8211;it was intoxicating. I loved seminary and institute, even when I was taught that Darwin was Satan&#8217;s answer to Joseph Smith (that one still makes me smile). I often felt a sense of awe watching the RMs come home. I wanted what they had. My father called it &#8220;spiritual muscle.&#8221; My mission in Japan was the right place at the right time for me, for many reasons. It was the best investment of time I had ever made (up to that point, of course!).</p>
<p>The Book of Mormon has a special place in my life. One experience reading King Benjamin started what became a small series of nearly indescribable <em>subjective</em> positive spiritual experiences, (I once tried to describe what it was like to an inquiring non-member/acquaintance and was mocked for it, so I hold close what is most sacred&#8211;let&#8217;s just say that a few of them were more than just a &#8220;tingling down the spine&#8221; or &#8220;warm feelings&#8221;). I have also felt what I interpret to be the infinite love and patience of God, for me and for all of his children. These &#8220;feelings&#8221; are as important and special to me as my &#8220;feelings&#8221; for my wife and son.</p>
<p>I love having a community wherever I go. I generally enjoy responsibilities at church, (currently the strengthening marriage instructor) and I have found that if I&#8217;m prepared and attentive, the meetings are <em>usually</em> more than worthwhile. I love General Conference, and agree with the teachings <em>almost</em> all of the time. Some people (both in and out of the church) seem to think that a prophet is either always right or not a prophet at all. I was not brought up that way, and have a difficult time understanding it now. Like Henry Eyring (Sr.) said, I think that prophets are wonderful because <em>sometimes</em> they speak for God. It is for those special moments of elevation and insight that I respect and listen to them.</p>
<p>Certain aspects of Mormon theology also fit me better than any religion or philosophy I know. This will have to be a later post, but marriage and personal growth are two of the most important things in life to me, and Mormonism fits those quite well, (I am definitely open to other views or ideas on this, if you have some).</p>
<p>I love symbolism, and enjoy the temple ordinances&#8211;I expect that they will continue to evolve, and look forward to it. I see Christ and relationships in everything in the temple. It can be different, even awkward at first, but looking deeper provides inspiration and insight that is a moving and a stabilizing force in my life. I believe in Christ. He <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2023:34;&amp;version=9;" target="_blank">inspires goodness</a>. He is the answer to the question of evil and tragedy and suffering. He unconditionally <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=1+Nephi+11%3A17&amp;do=Search" target="_blank">loves everyone</a>. That is a God I believe in. His revelations are in the Church, in books, in the rocks, and hopefully in my dissertation in a few years. None of those conduits are free from error.</p>
<p>This is not an argument for Mormonism. I am not telling others how they should approach faith, or activity in the church. This is simply how I am doing it. I could not be more logical: Some stuff bothers me, some of it really inspires me, gives meaning to my life and family, and has been the source of experiences (not always just feelings) and growth that I cannot reject. I do not have my head in the sand. I am not plugging my ears and yelling &#8220;faith! faith! faith!&#8221; at valid and logical arguments against the church&#8217;s claims.</p>
<p>Some people may think that if I have concerns or disagreements I should drop the church. Others may think I should try harder to procure some answers for my questions and concerns. I have pondered the first option and tried out the second for a while. In one of the clearest insights in my life, I found that neither option is even <em>remotely</em> satisfying. I believe in the gospel, and I am not an apologist. So here I am, in the church, good and bad, <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2009/05/22/best-and-worst-mormon-quotes/">best and worst</a>, inspiring and awkward.</p>
<p>What is your story?</p>
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<li>How do you handle issues that are difficult or perhaps impossible to reconcile?</li>
<li>What are the best parts of your experiences in the church?</li>
<li>Why have you ultimately decided to stay or leave? (Please keep these in a spirit of sharing and mutual understanding.)</li>
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<p>Do you know of any good related posts (by those who have stayed OR left&#8211;again, written with some humility, please). Next week there will be a guest post by a friend of mine who left the church a while back. Here are a few others, from various perspectives:</p>
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<li><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2008/02/25/why-i-am-not-a-disaffected-mormon/" target="_blank">Why I Am Not a Disaffected Mormon</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thejoosblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/not-ashamed.html" target="_blank">Not ashamed</a></li>
<li><a href="http://irresistibledisgrace.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/the-atheist-hiding-within-the-mormon/" target="_blank">The atheist hiding within the Mormon</a></li>
<li><a href="http://byzantium.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/i-have-always-been-a-pagan/" target="_blank">I Have Always Been A Pagan</a></li>
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		<title>Taking the Fun Out of Funerals</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 07:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do you want your funeral to be like?  Do you care or do you figure you&#8217;ll be dead anyway?  How do you feel about burial vs. cremation?  Are you an organ donor? This is a topic that always excites some feeling, whether you are Mormon or not.  We all wonder about the legacy we will leave behind and what will be our life&#8217;s eulogy. Boyd K. Packer has spoken twice on the topic of funerals, once in 1988, and again in a BYU devotional in 1996.  He clearly has some strong feelings on this topic. Bishops should not yield the arrangement of meetings to members.  They should not yield the arrangement for funerals or missionary farewells to families.  It is not the proper order of things for members or families to expect to decide who will speak and for how long.  Suggestions are in order, of course, but the bishop should not turn the meeting over to them.  We are worried about the drift that is occuring in our meetings. I agree to some extent where missionary farewells are concerned, but funerals seem like a private family matter for grieving to me, not specifically a missionary moment. Funerals could [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">What do you want your funeral to be like?  Do you care or do you figure you&#8217;ll be dead anyway?  How do you feel about burial vs. cremation?  Are you an organ donor?<span id="more-5191"></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">This is a topic that always excites some feeling, whether you are Mormon or not.  We all wonder about the legacy we will leave behind and what will be our life&#8217;s eulogy.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><img class="alignright" src="http://happylists.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/funeral-procession.jpeg" alt="http://happylists.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/funeral-procession.jpeg" width="181" height="185" />Boyd K. Packer has spoken twice on the topic of funerals, once in <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=30f7d7630a27b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;hideNav=1">1988</a>, and again in a <a href="http://emp.byui.edu/huffr/The%20Unwritten%20Order%20of%20Things%20--%20Boyd%20K.%20Packer.htm">BYU devotional</a> in 1996.  He clearly has some strong feelings on this topic.</p>
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<div>Bishops should not yield the arrangement of meetings to members.  They should not yield the arrangement for funerals or missionary farewells to families.  It is not the proper order of things for members or families to expect to decide who will speak and for how long.  Suggestions are in order, of course, but the bishop should not turn the meeting over to them.  We are worried about the drift that is occuring in our meetings.</div>
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<div style="text-align: left;">I agree to some extent where missionary farewells are concerned, but funerals seem like a private family matter for grieving to me, not specifically a missionary moment.</div>
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<div>Funerals could and should be the most spiritually impressive.  They are becoming informal family reunions in front of ward members.  Often the Spirit is repulsed by humorous experiences or jokes when the time could be devoted to teaching the things of the Spirit, even the sacred things.</div>
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<div style="text-align: left;">I still hold the hope that HF has a great sense of humor.  It doesn&#8217;t take much observation of humanity to bolster that hope.</div>
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<div>When the family insists that several family members speak in a funeral, we hear about the deceased instead of the Atonement, the Resurrection, and the comforting promises revealed in the scriptures.  Now it&#8217;s all right to have a family member speak at a funeral, but if they do, their remarks should be in keeping with the spirit of the meeting.</div>
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<div style="text-align: left;">Personally, I feel that we honor the dead when we remember them personally, share the stories of their life and the joy they brought to us through knowing them.  The funeral is for the living survivors, not the dead, nor the church. </div>
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<div style="text-align: left;">I have told my Brethren in that day when my funeral is held, if any of them who speak talk about me, I will raise up and correct them.  The gospel is to be preached.</div>
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<div style="text-align: left;">Actually, I would pay good money to see this.  Who&#8217;s with me?</div>
<blockquote style="text-align: left;"><p>I know of no meeting where the congregation is in a better state of readiness to receive revelation and inspiration from a speaker than they are at a funeral.  This privilege is being taken away from us because we don&#8217;t understand the order of things&#8211;the unwritten order of things&#8211;that relates to the administration of the Church and the reception of the Spirit.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: left;">Really?  A funeral?  I rather think that non-members and inactives would be put off by the lack of respect to the deceased.  It seems a little insensitive.  Whereas those who are members already have come to honor their dead.  Isn&#8217;t family supposed to come first?</p>
<div style="text-align: left;"><strong>What do you think?</strong> Should funerals be 100% somber with no mention of the deceased as an individual, only as an example of the Plan of Salvation in action?  Is it best for grieving families to hold funerals in their homes or away from the church if they want to cherish and honor the specific memory of their loved ones individually?</div>
<div style="text-align: left;"><strong>What is your experience?</strong> Given the fact that these talks are 20 years old and 12 years old (and the second was only a BYU address), I am curious &#8211; it seems to be BKP&#8217;s opinion more than church policy based on its execution.  Are these instructions being carried out?  (I don&#8217;t attend enough funerals to know the current trends, but the last one I went to was mostly funny and touching stories about the deceased with maybe a church talk, but I&#8217;m pretty sure I tuned it out).</div>
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<div style="text-align: left;">For my funeral, I would like some personal anecdotes shared.  And if possible, at least at the viewing, an Elvis Costello soundtrack (or Meatloaf&#8217;s Bat Out of Hell if I specifically die in a car crash).  No jello or funeral potatoes unless you really really like that stuff (after all, I won&#8217;t have to eat it).  I am also not keen on the whole giving a church talk thing.  If there are a bunch of people giving church talks in Heaven, no thanks.  I would prefer to be sent into the ocean on a burning barge like the Vikings, but if that is impractical, make sure I look good, but keep expenses down.  But I&#8217;m not going to threaten anyone with &#8220;rising up&#8221; out of my casket if these orders are not followed.  When I die, I plan to stay reliably dead, at least for the duration of the funeral.</div>
<div style="text-align: left;">Discuss.</div>
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