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		<title>Sunstone 2010 &#8211; A Feminist Recap</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really enjoyed the last day of Sunstone, since I was able to attend all day, rather than a session here or there.  Don Bradley gave a presentation titled &#8220;Dating Fanny Alger&#8221;, a bit of a play on words.  I remember he gave a funny line to the effect of &#8220;By all accounts, she was hot!&#8221;  Anyway, Bradley tried to pin down when the &#8220;affair&#8221; happened.  Apparently, Emma discovered Joseph and Fanny late at night in the barn.  According to Bradley, Alger appeared pregnant.  Emma threw a fit, and threw Alger out of the house.  (Apparently Alger had been working as a sort of nanny.) The discovery of the relationship by Emma probably dates to the summer or fall of 1835.  Bradley recounted several people who have tried to pin down the date, and noted problems with each date.  Some authors have discussed an &#8220;embarrassing&#8221; incident of polygamy in August 1835.   Joseph left for Pontiac, Michigan possibly to avoid embarrassment for his role.  On Oct 14, 1835, Joseph describes &#8220;dealing with household issues&#8221;, possibly a reference to evict Fanny.  However, Mark Ashurst-Mcgee suggests this incident refers not to Fanny, but a problem with employees at the printing office. Fanny [...]]]></description>
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<p>I really enjoyed the last day of Sunstone, since I was able to attend all day, rather than a session here or there.  Don Bradley gave a presentation titled &#8220;Dating Fanny Alger&#8221;, a bit of a play on words.  I remember he gave a funny line to the effect of &#8220;By all accounts, she was hot!&#8221;  Anyway, Bradley tried to pin down when the &#8220;affair&#8221; happened.  Apparently, Emma discovered Joseph and Fanny late at night in the barn.  According to Bradley, Alger appeared pregnant.  Emma threw a fit, and threw Alger out of the house.  (Apparently Alger had been working as a sort of nanny.)</p>
<p><img title="More..." src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" /><span id="more-12490"></span>The discovery of the relationship by Emma probably dates to the summer or fall of 1835.  Bradley recounted several people who have tried to pin down the date, and noted problems with each date.  Some authors have discussed an &#8220;embarrassing&#8221; incident of polygamy in August 1835.   Joseph left for Pontiac, Michigan possibly to avoid embarrassment for his role.  On Oct 14, 1835, Joseph describes &#8220;dealing with household issues&#8221;, possibly a reference to evict Fanny.  However, Mark Ashurst-Mcgee suggests this incident refers not to Fanny, but a problem with employees at the printing office.</p>
<p>Fanny left Kirtland in August or Sept 1836, so the incident must have occurred prior to that.  Bradley notes that dissenters condemned Joseph on July 24, and Joseph left for Salem, Massachusetts for a treasure trip the next day on July 25.  Bradley believes Joseph sent Fanny to Missouri at the same time.  William McLellin gave his famous quote about having &#8220;no confidence&#8221; in church leadership around this time as well.  Fanny soon married non-member Solomon Custer after just a 6 week courtship.  Bradley believes it may have been a cover of legitimacy if Fanny was indeed pregnant.</p>
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<p>Following Bridget Jack Meyer&#8217;s wonderful presentation on Women priesthood holders in early Christianity earlier in the week, I thought Joshua Gillon&#8217;s presentation called &#8220;Mormon Women Had the Priesthood in 1843: Examining the Claims&#8221; might be interesting.  I was greatly disappointed.  Josh is a PhD candidate of philosophy at Princeton, having completed a BA at BYU.  His talk was nothing more than a rant against the church.  He mis-characterized Michael Quinn&#8217;s discussion of women and the priesthood.  He employed tedious grammar exercises to make his points, and finished off with an F-bomb to end his presentation.  It was definitely the worst presentation I have ever heard at Sunstone, though there was another terrible one later in the day.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t very excited to go the the panel called &#8220;Glenn Beck: Likely Mormon or Unlikely Mormon&#8221;, but there wasn&#8217;t anything else that sounded interesting at that time.  As I reviewed the list of panelists, I was looking forward to hearing Joanna Brooks of Mormon Matters, and David King Landrith of Mormon Mentality.  (I had met him earlier in the week.) Kathryn Hemingway, Eric Samuelson, and Robert Rees weren&#8217;t nearly so interesting as Joanna and David, though they all made good points.  Rees was the moderator and not a fan of Beck.  Landrith and Hemingway were supporters of Beck, while Brooks and Samuelson were not.</p>
<p>I really enjoyed Landrith&#8217;s presentation.  Landrith showed that Beck&#8217;s rhetoric is very similar to political discourse over the past 200 years.  Early founding fathers often compared each other to monarchists, and spoke about each other more harshly than Beck does of his opponents.  I thought it was an interesting presentation.  Brooks really wasn&#8217;t that antagonistic toward Beck.  She basically said we should ignore Beck because his ratings are going down and he knows it.  There is no need to feed into the frenzy&#8211;Beck will go away on his own.</p>
<p>Following lunch, I attended a fantastic presentation by Apostle Susan Skoor of the Community of Christ.  She discussed her personal faith journey, showing how she has moved among Fowler&#8217;s stages of faith.  Her talk was titled &#8220;Faith in the Midst of the Difficulties of Life.&#8221;  Baptized at age 8 into the RLDS church, she discussed losing her testimony in her 30s, nearly falling into atheism.  Receiving a blessing, and asked &#8220;Do you want to believe?&#8221;, as Alma says, she let this desire work in her.  She discussed her new found faith as a stage 5 person, and said she knew she was too selfish to reach stage 6.  As I listened to her story, I marveled at how open she was about her life&#8217;s journey.  I don&#8217;t think an LDS apostle would admit to losing faith as she did, and I don&#8217;t think an LDS apostle would discuss spirituality in such as &#8220;secular&#8221; way as she discussed Fowlers Faith Stage theory.  I was truly moved.</p>
<p>Clair Barrus discussed &#8220;Oliver Cowdery&#8217;s Rod of Nature.&#8221;  It was a bit too technical for me, but I know others enjoyed it.  Finally, I listened to a panel discuss &#8220;Men and the Priesthood: Taking on the Feminine.&#8221;  Tom Kimball discussed being an unorthodox Mormon.  His previous bishop did not want to let him baptize or ordain his children.  As the bishop got to know Tom better, he decided to allow it.  Tom has previously <a href="http://mormonstories.org/podcast/MormonStories-017-MormonStagesOfFaithPt3.mp3" target="_blank">discussed his story on Mormon Stories</a>.  Tom&#8217;s new bishop has taken a more hard line approach, and Tom&#8217;s boys have not progressed in the priesthood.  Tom compared his situation to the idea that women can&#8217;t ordain daughters in the LDS church as well.</p>
<p>Robin Linkart, President of the 6th Quorum of Seventy for the Community of Christ spoke next.  She gave an excellent presentation and discussed the new revelation in 1984 allowing women to hold the priesthood.  Many in the RLDS church broke off (they lost nearly 1/4 of their membership.)  She discussed the challenges the RLDS church went through, and her personal journey in the priesthood.  It was excellent.</p>
<p>Holly Welker spoke next.  She gave a rant that the priesthood should be abolished in the LDS church.  During Tom&#8217;s, Lisa&#8217;s, and the Q&amp;A session, she made faces of disbelief and disagreement.  Honestly I believe a 5th grader would have better behavior than she exhibited.  She was incredibly rude and unprofessional.  Her behavior was embarrassing.</p>
<p>Lisa Butterworth finished up the panel.  She started the blog at FeministMormonHousewives.  Being a feminist and an unorthodox Mormon, she was asked to speak in support of the idea of an all-male priesthood.  She did the best she could, but it was evident that she didn&#8217;t fully support the topic she was asked to address.</p>
<p>Overall, I enjoyed most of the sessions.  If you missed my first post on Sunstone, <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2010/08/06/hanging-out-with-apostles-at-sunstone/">click here</a>.  I&#8217;m not sure why I attended so many feminist presentations, but I guess they sounded the most interesting.  So what is your take on women and the priesthood?  Do you see it happening in the LDS church in the next 20-50 years?  Would you support or oppose such a move if the prophet received a revelation allowing women to hold the priesthood?</p>
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		<title>Sophia of the Proverbs and the Feminine Divine</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OT SS Lesson #31 Feminist readers of the scriptures are well aware of the passages in Proverbs 8 which personify Wisdom (GK Sophia, HEB Hokhmah). These passages affirm that Sophia was there when God made the earth and acted as a partner with God in the creation. This idea fits in well with my conceptualization of the male/female duality of the Divine. The passages can be interpreted as instructions to the earnest seeker to discover and follow the promptings of a Heavenly Mother: The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. When there were no depths, I was brought forth; When there were no fountains abounding with water. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. When he prepared the heavens, I was there: When he set a compass upon the face of the depth: When he established the clouds above: When he strengthened the fountains of the deep: When he gave to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-7683" title="Avatar-BiV" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51-150x150.jpg" alt="Avatar-BiV" width="80" height="80" /></a><big><strong>OT SS Lesson #31</strong></big></p>
<p>Feminist readers of the scriptures are well aware of the passages in <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/prov/8">Proverbs 8</a> which personify Wisdom (GK Sophia, HEB Hokhmah).<br />
These passages affirm that Sophia was there when God made the earth and acted as a partner with God in the creation.  This idea fits in well with my conceptualization of the male/female duality of the Divine.  The passages can be interpreted as instructions to the earnest seeker to discover and follow the promptings of a Heavenly Mother:<span id="more-12475"></span></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/sophiabeginning.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-12478" style="margin-left: 55px; margin-right: 55px;" title="sophiabeginning" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/sophiabeginning.jpg" alt="" width="189" height="376" /></a>The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.<br />
<big><strong><em>I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.</em></strong></big><br />
When there were no depths, I was brought forth;<br />
When there were no fountains abounding with water.<br />
Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:<br />
While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.<br />
<big><strong><em>When he prepared the heavens, I was there:</em></strong></big><br />
When he set a compass upon the face of the depth:<br />
When he established the clouds above:<br />
When he strengthened the fountains of the deep:<br />
When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment:<br />
When he appointed the foundations of the earth:<br />
<big><strong><em>Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight</em></strong>,</big> rejoicing always before him;<br />
Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;<br />
And my delights were with the sons of men.<br />
<big><strong><em>Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children:<br />
For blessed are they that keep my ways.</em></strong></big><br />
Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.<br />
Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.<br />
<big><strong><em>For whoso findeth me findeth life,</em></strong></big> and shall obtain favour of the LORD. (Prov. 8:23-35)</p></blockquote>
<p>If we are ever going to discuss the Divine Feminine in our 2010 Old Testament study, this is the lesson to do it. Many biblical scholars feel that the personification of Wisdom in the Proverbs represents a female Divinity.  In these verses Sophia addresses Israel as her children with the authority of a Divine Being, and has great power and dominion.   She is a &#8220;tree of life&#8221; (Prov. 3:18), connecting her with other Near-Eastern deities as well as the source of eternal life in the Book of Mormon.</p>
<p>In the scriptures, there is additional female imagery which tends to support the existence of a feminine counterpart to God.  I hesitate to use them as proof-texts for a Mother in Heaven.  These passages can just as well be interpreted to mean that a male Deity has loving and nurturing characteristics.  However, if one believes, as I do, that &#8220;Elohim&#8221; consists of both a Mother and a Father God, the verses that follow add welcome insight into possible roles and characteristics of a Divine Mother Goddess.</p>
<p>One of the early titles for God in the Old Testament is <em><strong>El Shaddai</strong></em>.  This word has been translated &#8220;Almighty God,&#8221; or &#8220;God of the Mountains.&#8221;  It may have linguistic ties to the word &#8220;breast,&#8221; prompting some to translate <em><strong>El Shaddai </strong></em>as &#8220;the breasted One.&#8221;  Though I might not go as far as to use this translation, I enjoy the word play which is typical of Hebrew writing and which connects this title of God to breasts and nurturing.  In the language used in Jacob&#8217;s blessing to his son Joseph in Genesis 49, <strong><em>El Shaddai</em> </strong>gives him</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb: The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Isaiah uses many feminine images of God in his writings.  Consider the following:</p>
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<li><a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=isa+42%3A14">Isaiah 42:14</a>&#8211;a woman in labor whose forceful breath is an image of divine power.<img class="alignright size-full wp-image-12485" style="margin-left: 35px; margin-right: 35px;" title="sophiaa" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/sophiaa.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="320" /></li>
<li><a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=isa+46%3A3-4">Isaiah 46:3-4</a>&#8211;a mother who births and protects Israel.</li>
<li><a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=isa+49%3A14-15&amp;do=Search">Isaiah 49:14-15</a>&#8211;a mother who does not forget the child she nurses.</li>
<li><a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=isa+66%3A12-13">Isaiah 66:12-13</a>&#8211;a mother who comforts her children.</li>
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<p>The following poem in <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=hosea+11:1-4&amp;do=Search">Hosea 11:1-4</a> is in the first person, presenting God as a mother who calls, teaches, holds, heals, and feeds her son.</p>
<blockquote><p>When Israel was a child, I loved him,<br />
And out of Egypt I called My son.<br />
The more I called them, the more they went from me;<br />
They sacrificed to the Baals,<br />
And burned incense to carved images.<br />
Yet it was I who taught Ephraim to walk, I took them up in my arms;<br />
but they did not know that I healed them.<br />
I drew them with gentle cords,<br />
With bands of love,<br />
And I was to them as those who take the yoke from their neck.<br />
I stooped and fed them.</p></blockquote>
<p>It is possible that Hosea is indirectly presenting God as mother over against the fertility goddess of the Canaanite religion that he is challenging.<br />
Interestingly, Hosea presents God as the husband figure in Hosea chapter 4, and the mother figure in chapter 11.  These paired images suggest the male/female duality of God.</p>
<p>Searching for feminine images in the scriptures is a fruitful pursuit.  There are many other examples too numerous to list here.  I realize that different conclusions can be drawn from the presence of the Divine Feminine in scripture.  Some faith traditions have posited that God is genderless, yet &#8220;accommodates to human limitations by using physical, relational, gender-laden images for self-disclosure.&#8221;  Others believe that God is solely masculine and patriarchal but possesses qualities that we culturally see as feminine.  My inclination is to picture &#8220;Elohim&#8221; as a God consisting of both a male and female element.  I present this view as one which aligns with the Proclamation on the Family where it affirms the eternal nature of gender:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;<em>All human beings—male and female—are created in the image of God. Each is a beloved spirit son or daughter of heavenly parents, and, as such, each has a divine nature and destiny. Gender is an essential characteristic of individual premortal, mortal, and eternal identity and purpose</em>.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Patriarchal Hierarchy and the Kingship Model</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[OT SS Lesson #21 When we lived in Saudi Arabia a few years ago, I obtained a faculty position in the fairly newly-formed department of Health and P.E. at a university which was strictly segregated by gender.  The women&#8217;s side of the university operated independently, with our own female custodians, technical staff, professors and administration,  and very little oversight from the male president.  Our department consisted of five women, and we made all decisions collectively, with no titular head.  After the first semester I was there, one of our staff meetings was dedicated to the question of whether we should have a department head.  Being the newest addition to the faculty, I had little say in this decision, but I did bring up the point that we had successfully administrated the department jointly, and I questioned the necessity of one department head.  It would completely change the group dynamics that we had experienced as a body of women removed from a patriarchal hierarchy and which I very much enjoyed.  The reply from all of the rest of the women, though there had been no problems thus far, was that &#8220;you HAVE to have a leader,&#8221; that one person MUST be [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-7683" title="Avatar-BiV" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51-150x150.jpg" alt="Avatar-BiV" width="80" height="80" /></a><big><strong>OT SS Lesson #21</strong></big></p>
<p>When we lived in Saudi Arabia a few years ago, I obtained a faculty position in the fairly newly-formed department of Health and P.E. at a university which was strictly segregated by gender.  The women&#8217;s side of the university operated independently, with our own female custodians, technical staff, professors and administration,  and very little oversight from the male president.  Our department consisted of five women, and we made all decisions collectively, with no titular head.  After the first semester I was there, one of our staff meetings was dedicated to the question of whether we should have a department head.  Being the newest addition to the faculty, I had little say in this decision, but I did bring up the point that we had successfully administrated the department jointly, and I questioned the necessity of one department head.  It would completely change the group dynamics that we had experienced as a body of women removed from a patriarchal hierarchy and which I very much enjoyed.  The reply from all of the rest of the women, though there had been no problems thus far, was that &#8220;you HAVE to have a leader,&#8221; that one person MUST be in charge of any organization.<span id="more-11502"></span></p>
<p>At the time I was struck by how much this assertion resembled the one I have heard from many Mormons justifying the hierarchical, patriarchal system in place in the Church, both within the institution and within our individual families.  The argument seems to be that harmonious resolution of difficulties is impossible without one leader to make final decisions.  I am not entirely sure I agree that no other model beside the &#8220;one-leader rule,&#8221; or what I will here call the &#8220;kingship&#8221; model is viable in administrating a successful community.</p>
<p>The kingship model of administration appears to have been particularly desirable throughout history.  It seems obvious that strong personality types would desire to set up a system of governance where they were in charge of making all the decisions.  But the scriptural record and our <a href="http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=bd14c106dac20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;vgnextoid=5158f4b13819d110VgnVCM1000003a94610aRCRD">OT SS Lesson #21</a> show that groups of people also wish to configure their communities under the supervision of a king.  <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/1_sam/8">1 Samuel 8</a> recounts the story of the Israelite people, dissatisfied with judges and prophets, clamoring for Samuel to get them a king.  Their reasoning is found in verse 20: they want to be like the other nations, they want one strong leader to judge them, and they desire to be under the protection of a military commander who will lead them in battle.</p>
<p>Passages in the Book of Mormon also describe this desire of the general population to set up a monarchy.  In <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/mosiah/23/6-13#6">Mosiah 23</a> the people want Alma to be their king because of their great admiration for him.  In <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/3_ne/7">3 Ne 7 </a>a league of tribes attempt to establish a kingship in order to overthrow the tribal system of government then operating.  In <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/alma/51/">Alma 51</a> there is also an attempt to overthrow the current leadership and inculcate a kingship, inspired in part by pride and aspirations to nobility.  In each case in the scriptures where there is a desire to crown a king, it is denounced as contrary to the ideals of freedom.  Several reasons are given in these passages as to why kingship is considered malapropos:</p>
<ul>
<li>It is a rejection of divine rule in favor of human rule (1 Sam 8:7)</li>
<li>A king would allocate human and natural resources to his own advantage (1 Sam 8:11-17)</li>
<li>One man should not think of himself as being above another; kingship gives those of high birth unfair power and authority (Mosiah 23:7; Alma 51:8)</li>
<li>Not all kings can be trusted to be just (Mosiah 23:8,13,14)</li>
<li>A king can oppress people and lead them into iniquity (Mosiah 23:12)</li>
<li>A monarchy is not a free government (Alma 51:6)</li>
</ul>
<div>Now, apparently hierarchical priesthood leadership in the Church and in LDS homes is considered to be very different than kingship as presented in the scriptures.  I can see how this would be so if there were a clear line of communication from a Heavenly Being to each designated leader.  However, the nature of inspiration and communication from on High is nuanced enough to make this an insufficient rationale.  Observe how each of the reasons given above can be applied to hierarchical priesthood leadership as practiced in the Church:</div>
<div>
<ul>
<li>It is a rejection of divine rule in favor of human rule.  When it is not always possible to tell if the leader is receiving revelation, the leader imposes his will upon the others in the system.  The others then obey human directives rather than attempting to gain their own revelation of the divine will.</li>
<li>A human being is naturally inclined to direct resources to his own advantage.  With one hierarchical leader this is always a danger.  When a group of people act together, or when there are checks and balances in the system, this temptation is not as prevalent.</li>
<li>Priesthood leadership gives those who have been born male unfair power and authority.  This is true regardless of the fact that many good men who hold the priesthood will not take advantage of their position.</li>
<li>Not all priesthood holders can be trusted to be just.  To paraphrase: &#8220;if it were possible that ye could always have just men to be your priesthood leaders, it would be well for you to have priesthood leaders.&#8221;</li>
<li>A priesthood leader can oppress people and lead them into iniquity.  I will not be so presumptuous as to cite examples of this.  But again, this tendency is ameliorated when more accountability is built into the administrative system.</li>
<li>An organization of hierarchical priesthood leadership is not a free government. Under this type of leadership, the choices of the individual can be severely limited if there is disagreement.  Often a member loses legitimacy and power in the system simply for having a differing opinion than the priesthood leader.</li>
</ul>
<div>I&#8217;m sure that there are flaws in my observations on patriarchal hierarchy and kingship, so please dive in and point them out!  I think this should be an interesting discussion.  How do you think kingship (as denounced in the scriptures) and patriarchy (which we all know is encouraged in Church organization) differ and compare?</div>
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		<title>Feminist Musings on the story of Jephthah</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[OT SS Lesson #19 You are going to talk about the Biblical Judges in this week&#8217;s Sunday School class, and the lesson&#8217;s got it pretty well covered (including a discussion of the Judge/Prophetess/Mother in Israel Deborah, yay!) You&#8217;ll have to let me know how your respective teachers covered her.  But some of the Judges are peripheral and didn&#8217;t make it into the lesson materials.  As is my wont to do, I&#8217;d like to investigate the marginal; the story that isn&#8217;t mentioned in the manual &#8212; that of Jephthah. Whenever I come across an odd story in the Old Testament, I feel compelled pull it apart and try to make some sense out of it. Why is it there? Does it have some symbolic meaning of which we are unaware? Are we misinterpreting crucial aspects? Would it make more sense within the cultural milieu? Such is the story of this lesser-known Biblical judge. This strange little story begins with an &#8220;unlikely hero,&#8221; Jephthah, the son of a prostitute. He was taken into his father&#8217;s family and raised there, but after the death of his father the legitimate children forced him to leave. He made some reputation for himself among a band [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-7683" title="Avatar-BiV" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51-150x150.jpg" alt="Avatar-BiV" width="80" height="80" /></a><big><strong>OT SS Lesson #19</strong></big><br />
You are going to talk about the Biblical Judges in this week&#8217;s <a href="http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=0f74c106dac20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;vgnextoid=198bf4b13819d110VgnVCM1000003a94610aRCRD">Sunday School </a>class, and the lesson&#8217;s got it pretty well covered (including a discussion of the Judge/Prophetess/Mother in Israel Deborah, yay!) You&#8217;ll have to let me know how your respective teachers covered her.  But some of the Judges are peripheral and didn&#8217;t make it into the lesson materials.  As is my wont to do, I&#8217;d like to investigate the marginal; the story that isn&#8217;t mentioned in the manual &#8212; that of Jephthah.</p>
<p>Whenever I come across an odd story in the Old Testament, I feel compelled pull it apart and try to make some sense out of it.  Why is it there?  Does it have some symbolic meaning of which we are unaware?  Are we misinterpreting crucial aspects?  Would it make more sense within the cultural milieu?  Such is the story of this lesser-known Biblical judge.<span id="more-11279"></span></p>
<p>This strange little story begins with an &#8220;unlikely hero,&#8221; Jephthah, the son of a prostitute.  He was taken into his father&#8217;s family and raised there, but after the death of his father the legitimate children forced him to leave.  He made some reputation for himself among a band of &#8220;vain men,&#8221; so that when his countrymen needed help against the Ammonites, they came to him.  Jephthah agreed to captain an army against Ammon, in return for being named their titular head.  His first military action was an attempt to negotiate with the enemy.  When that did not work, he gathered together the men of Israel.  The Spirit of the Lord came upon Jephthah, and he went forth to battle, making a interesting vow to the Lord.  If the Lord would help him win the battle, he would dedicate to the Lord and offer up for a burnt offering whatever should come forth from the doors of his house to meet him when he returned.</p>
<p>After a successful conquest, Jephthah returned home and was greeted by his daughter, his only child.  That she was a precious and only child is pointed up by the fact that the judges immediately before and after him were Jair (who had thirty sons who rode on thirty ass colts), and Ibzan (who had thirty sons and thirty daughters).  The number of children is the only fact we are told about these two judges, making it very likely that they are there solely for the reason of emphasizing Jephthah&#8217; only begotten child.  But she was a female.</p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/dore_082-1.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-11308 alignright" style="margin-left: 20px; margin-right: 20px;" title="dore_082 (1)" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/dore_082-1.jpg" alt="" width="330" height="290" /></a>Not only was human sacrifice forbidden by the Lord, (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=deut+18%3A10">Deut. 18:10</a>), but burnt offerings were to be firstborn males (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=lev+1%3A3%2C+10">Lev. 1:3</a>).  Nevertheless, Jephthah had made a vow, and intended to keep it.  His daughter acquiesced, asking only for two months time to go up to the mountains with some friends and &#8220;bewail her virginity.&#8221;  At the end of the two months, she returned to her father, and he &#8220;did with her according to his vow which he had vowed, and she knew no man.&#8221;  Thereafter it became a custom for the daughters of Israel to go up four days in a year to lament the fate of the daughter of Jephthah.</p>
<p>The tradition of Biblical scholars is to interpret this vow of Jephthah&#8217;s as an impetuous and evil action which had disastrous consequences.  That Latter-day Saints have followed in this tradition is clear from the chapter heading of <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/judg/11">Judges 11</a>: &#8220;<em>He makes a <strong>rash vow </strong>which leads to sacrifice of his only daughter.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>This interpretation is problematic for at least two reasons.  First, if this was a &#8220;rash vow,&#8221; why would the Lord be given credit for bringing about the victory of Jephthah&#8217;s army?  In the Book of Judges, the people are punished with captivity and defeat when they forsake the Lord.  Second, why would Jephthah make such a vow?  Did he think perhaps an animal would be the first out the door to greet him?  (In ancient Israel the animals were sometimes kept in the house.)  What if the animal was an unclean one, such as a dog?  To offer up such a sacrifice would be a great affront.  But perhaps the greatest problem Biblical scholars face in the exegesis of this passage is the inclusion of Jephthah in <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/heb/11">Hebrews 11</a> &#8212; the &#8220;faith chapter.&#8221;  Here Jephthah is included along with the great heroes of the Old Testament in obtaining &#8220;a good report through faith.&#8221;</p>
<p>I rather favor an interpretation that became popular in medieval times and has been revived recently &#8212; that Jephthah was promising only to dedicate his daughter to the Lord and not to kill her.  This would parallel Jephthah&#8217;s daughter more to<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/judg/13"> Samson</a> and to <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=1+sam+1%3A11&amp;do=Search">Samuel</a> than to Abraham&#8217;s sacrifice of Isaac.  But it would preserve the Messianic shadowing. Several points make this interpretation possible:</p>
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<ol>
<li>The Hebrew &#8220;vav&#8221; usually translated &#8220;and&#8221; may also be translated as &#8220;or&#8221; rendering the reading in Judges 11:31: &#8220;whatsoever cometh forth&#8230;to meet me&#8230;shall surely be the Lord&#8217;s, <em><strong>or</strong> </em>I will offer it up as a burnt offering.&#8221; Thus Jephthah&#8217;s method of sacrifice would depend upon what came forth out of his door.</li>
<li>The daughter departed into the mountains to &#8220;bewail her virginity,&#8221; not her death.  It is possible that she was being offered to some type of temple service which would necessitate her remaining unwed for the rest of her life.  Note verse 39 which says that Jephthah kept &#8220;his vow which he had vowed: and <strong><em>she knew no man</em></strong>.&#8221;  This last clause would seem awkward and unnecessary if she were being put to death.</li>
<li>Certain Hebrew scholars believe that for as long as she lived, the virgins of Israel went at different times, each for four days in the year, to provide comfort and encouragement to the daughter of Jephthah at the tent of meeting. This custom must have ended at her death, since there is no further reference to it in scripture or Jewish history.</li>
</ol>
<p>You see that it is possible to fit this story quite nicely into our Latter-day Saint canon.  Faithful Jephthah makes a promise to the Lord, and keeps his promise.  Faithful Jephthah&#8217;s daughter yields herself to her father&#8217;s vow and becomes a type of Christ.  Handel uses a variation of this interpretation in his oratorio, <a href="http://opera.stanford.edu/iu/libretti/jephtha.htm">Jephtha</a>.  I&#8217;ll share with you a lovely aria from the oratorio below.  Here Jeptha is reconciled to the blood sacrifice of his daughter, and sings &#8220;Waft her, angels, through the skies,&#8221; before learning that her death is not required, and she shall instead be dedicated to God in a pure and virgin state for the rest of her life.</p>
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<p>The story doesn&#8217;t fit quite so nicely into feminist thought, however&#8230;or does it?  What was the name of this intriguing daughter?  What was she like?  Didn&#8217;t she deserve to make her own decisions?  Why must her life be subject to her father&#8217;s vow?  Here&#8217;s the other side of the question: if Samuel and Isaac were obedient to the vows of their parents, isn&#8217;t it equal treatment for a young woman in the scriptures to show the same dedication?  Is submission not a principle that Christ modeled, and which males and females must all learn?  In my search for spiritual submission, is it helpful to have a female role model?  Or would this simply reinforce <a href="http://www.christiandomesticdiscipline.com/">unrighteous patriarchal domination </a>which tends to crop up in religious settings?  Can it be possible to spin this story into a celebration of a strong woman character who makes her own decisions and chooses on her own to follow the Lord?  And what of my own life?  Is it conceivable to view the submission I have promised in the temple as a glorious principle even though the submission my husband covenants is to God, and mine is to a mere mortal?  Is the surrender I give freely in this holy place simply that required of all Christian disciples?  Or does God require of women an additional offering?  Does Jephthah&#8217;s daughter hold the key?  Am I to become a daughter on the pyre?  I&#8217;m still wondering.<a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/jephthah2.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-11289" title="jephthah2" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/jephthah2.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="161" /></a><br />
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		<title>Reform Mormonism a Poll</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 14:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have recently come across a group called Reform Mormonisim. I thought their views were interesting and as I mentally answered some of their questions here I was surprised how much of it resonated with me. What I did feel in the end after reading much of their thoughts and material is why bother!! Why not become a nontheist Unitarian. Is it worth all the effort when there must be other religions very close to the same theology? Hopefully we can get someone from their church to answer that question I have added a poll to this and must apologize to those at Reform Mormonism and to the readers at Mormon Matters in that they are totally paraphrased and maybe (unintentionally )taken out of context. So please go here to see them on their web page. What they believe here Reform Mormonism is a home-based, personal philosophy. A day of rest is held wherever one is at; there are no church services. Reform Mormonism does have special temple ordinances, that are designed to aide a person throughout their life, that are conducted in dedicated temple spaces. Unlike the LDS, they do not perform any temple ordinance for the deceased. Reformed [...]]]></description>
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<p>I have recently come across a group called <a title="Reform  Mormonism" href="http://www.reformmormonism.org/index.html">Reform Mormonisim</a>. I thought their views were interesting and as I mentally answered some of their questions <a href="http://www.reformmormonism.org/lib/youmight.htm">here</a> I was surprised how much of it resonated with me.<span id="more-10920"></span></p>
<p>What I did feel in the end after reading much of their thoughts and material is why bother!! Why not become a nontheist Unitarian. Is it worth all the effort when there must be other religions very close to the same theology? Hopefully we can get someone from their church to answer that question</p>
<p>I have added a poll to this and must apologize to those at Reform Mormonism and to the readers at Mormon Matters in that they are totally paraphrased and maybe (unintentionally )taken out of context. So please go <a href="http://www.reformmormonism.org/lib/youmight.htm">here</a> to see them on their web page.</p>
<p>What they believe <a href="http://www.reformmormonism.org/whatwebelieve.htm">here</a></p>
<p>Reform Mormonism is a home-based, personal philosophy. A day of  rest is       held wherever one is at; there are no church services. Reform  Mormonism       does have special temple ordinances, that are designed to aide a  person       throughout their life, that are conducted in dedicated temple  spaces. Unlike       the LDS, they do not perform any temple ordinance for the deceased.</p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial">Reformed Mormonism are  individuals who have moved away from organized  religion and have       found peace and satisfaction in concentrating on the important  things in       life. We&#8217;re just like you &#8211; parents, children, brothers, sisters,  friends       and partners. We&#8217;ve settled on a personal philosophy that makes  sense in       the 21st century. It&#8217;s personal,  important, and best of all, it  isn&#8217;t       scary like so many churches these days.</span></p>
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		<title>After Action Report: The Community of Christ Did WHAT?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Headline in the Independence Examiner for Thursday, April 15, 2010: &#8220;Delegation Takes No Action on Human Sexuality Issues: Church Will Continue Dialogue.&#8221; Headline  by John Hamer on BCC on Thursday, April 15, 2010: &#8220;Gay Rights Revelation Added to The Community of Christ D&#38;C&#8221; &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- The two headlines above generally cover the spectrum of opinion about what happened at the Community of Christ World Conference as it completed the process of canonization of a new Section 164 for its D&#38;C. The spectrum of opinions about whether what happened was a good thing or bad thing, of course, runs even more broadly. Indeed, I’m not at all certain that we’ll even be able to see how intense the various “colors” of that spectrum will prove until information about the conference filters down to the bulk of the North American church that maintains no real connection to the World Church in the &#8220;Blogitorium&#8221;. As in many churches on the Christian left in North America, that membership tends to be somewhat more traditionalist than its leadership. Nevertheless, I’ll give my view as someone from one part of the peanut gallery, focusing on what was in each portion of Section 164 and the effects of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Headline in the <em>Independence</em><em> Examiner </em>for Thursday, April 15, 2010:</p>
<p><strong><em>&#8220;Delegation Takes No Action on Human Sexuality Issues: Church Will Continue Dialogue.&#8221;</em></strong></p>
<p>Headline  <a href="http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/04/15/gay-rights-revelation-added-to-dc-world-conference-part-2-april-12%e2%80%9315/">by John Hamer on BCC </a> on Thursday, April 15, 2010:</p>
<p><strong><em>&#8220;Gay Rights Revelation Added to The Community of Christ D&amp;C&#8221;</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</em></strong></p>
<p>The two headlines above generally cover the spectrum of opinion about what happened at the Community of Christ World Conference as it completed the <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/01/05/canonizing-modern-revelation-a-tourist-guide/"> process of canonization</a> of a <a href="http://cofchrist.org/dc164/"> new Section 164</a> for its D&amp;C. The spectrum of opinions about whether what happened was a good thing or bad thing, of course, runs even more broadly. Indeed, I’m not at all certain that we’ll even be able to see how intense the various “colors” of that spectrum will prove until information about the conference filters down to the bulk of the North American church that maintains no real connection to the World Church <a href="http://saintsherald.com/2010/04/13/world-conference-in-the-blogosphere/"> in the &#8220;Blogitorium&#8221;</a>. As in many churches on the Christian left in North America, that membership tends to be somewhat more traditionalist than its leadership.<span id="more-10678"></span></p>
<p>Nevertheless, I’ll give my view as someone from one part of the peanut gallery, focusing on what was in each portion of Section 164 and the effects of associated legislation passed to begin implementation. A future post will provide a similar analysis on legislation considered by the Conference not specifically addressed by Section 164 and suggest something about the overall direction of the Community of Christ in the future.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline">SECTION 164, PARAGRAPHS 1-4</span></strong></p>
<p>President Veazey describes the experiences of meditation, particularly on portions of Galatians 3:27-29, that led him to offer the Section. After commending the church for similarly seeking to discern the Spirit in a structured process that has been going on for well over a year, he makes explicit an understanding of the church and its sacraments which has been implicit in CofChrist theology for a number of years.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;Instruction given previously about baptism was proper to ensure the rise and cohesiveness of the church during its early development and in following years. However, as a growing number have come to understand, the redemptive action of God in Christ—while uniquely and authoritatively expressed through the church—is not confined solely to the church. God’s grace, revealed in Jesus Christ, freely moves throughout creation, often beyond human perception, to achieve divine purposes in people’s lives.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The Community of Christ is to see itself as “one true church”, not as the “one <em><span style="text-decoration: underline">and only</span></em> true church”. How serious is this theological intent was earlier signaled by something I haven’t seen commentators note elsewhere. The first sessions of Conference always feature certain speeches of welcome. One is usually a non-CofChrist speaker. This speaker is often a local Congressman or a Missouri Senator. The speech is strictly non-political even then, but the identity is interesting because trends over time seem to show the direction of the church leadership’s interest.</p>
<p>This year that slot went to the Rev. Dr. Michael Kinnamon, General Secretary of the National Council of Churches. Kinnamon unabashedly spoke of the Community of Christ having unique gifts that should be seen as adding to bodies such as the NCC, rather than as a body going its own way. Ironically, contacts between the RLDS and the NCC were among the suspicions cited by fundamentalist opponents of the church circa 1970 as evidence of apostasy. Thus, such a speech 40 years ago might itself have been too controversial to occur.</p>
<p>Section 164 then lays out specific instruction (that will be followed quickly by formal administrative policy <a href="http://www.cofchrist.org/wc2010/counsel/QA3.asp"> guidance</a> to become effective by September 1, 2011). These policies will result in acceptance into membership into the Community of Christ upon confirmation by CofChrist priesthood – without requiring rebaptism if the original baptism: a) involved water;  b) was performed by an ordained Christian minister;  and c) as a personal expression of faith in Christ. In particular, we will not require someone to present proof of their baptism <em>or the baptizing minister’s credentials</em>, since that would be impossible in many places throughout the world. This clearly expands the notion of <em>true priesthood authority</em> beyond the boundaries of those called through the priesthood line passed to Joseph Smith.</p>
<p>The phrase “using water” also allows for baptisms done by immersion, pouring, or sprinkling, while upholding the church’s own standard practice of baptism by immersion at the age of accountability. There is also some additional specific guidance regarding the substance of the prayer of confirmation (Baptism of the Spirit) that is now the means by which one moves from being part of the Body of Christ into membership within the denomination. And preparation for confirmation will now be a formal requirement for the ordinance to occur.</p>
<p>Paragraph 3 contains a call for all members to serious consider and live the meaning of their baptismal covenants (water and Spirit). Paragraph 4 ties this call to consideration of the role the sacrament of the Lord’s Supper should play in renewing, witnessing, and amplifying our covenant. (Portions of the preamble specifically warn us to NOT make the meaning of the covenants atrophy even as we broaden the procedures, because of the concern that in some places this has happened with open communion).</p>
<p>This portion of the Section makes the Community of Christ look very Protestant – if you can call becoming more Protestant through modern revelation a Protestant concept in the first place.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline">SECTION 164, PARAGRAPHS 5-7</span></strong></p>
<p>These are the paragraphs whose approval generated the widely divergent headlines above. Their actual content is to call attention to “serious questions about moral behavior and relationships” – but to prioritize those questions not simply as they are listed within the dominant culture of the denomination.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“These issues are complex and difficult to understand outside their particular settings because of strikingly different cultural histories, customs, and understandings of scripture. For example, the issues include female submission, female genital mutilation, child brides, forced marriages, and sexual permissiveness. They include cleansing and exploitation of widows, harsh conflicts over same-gender attraction and relationships, and varying legal, religious, and social definitions of marriage, to name just a few.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>More importantly, the Section calls us to see the solutions for these moral dilemmas as arising from an understanding of Christianity as a community that transcends definitions by economic status, social class, sex, gender, or ethnicity. They simply are no longer primary. Relationships are to be rooted in the principles of Christ-like love, mutual respect, responsibility, justice, covenant, and faithfulness, <em>against which there is no law.</em></p>
<p>Section 164 then extrapolates that these principles require that the church move the resolution of moral issues to the church in the cultures most affected by them rather than let the dominant North American church decide for the rest of the world. Field Apostles, under the guidance of the Presidency, are authorized to call and set the agenda for field, national, or (non-geographical) cultural groups to deal with issues such as those listed above as they feel directed.</p>
<p>Uncertainty about the nature and timing of these conferences is generating the widely divergent headlines about gay rights. First, everyone in the Community of Christ seems to understand that the leadership feels that it must not expose our leaders and members in cultures where discussion of gay issues is taboo. If so, they can hardly move toward expanded gay rights in the United States unless they can find a way to maintain what the government would call “plausible deniability&#8221;.</p>
<p>Second, there is a large body of conservative members in the US church (and non-members in society) whose reaction must be anticipated and allowed for. The LDS experience with Prop 8 shows what happens when the church in the US takes any position on controversial issues in the political arena. Many feel the church has moved too hesitantly and will continue to do so; others are likely to feel the church is moving in the wrong direction entirely.</p>
<p>Finally, there are logistical questions. It seems unlikely that the US church has the resources to assemble a national conference on gay rights issues before the spring of 2012 at the earliest. It will take until September, 2011, simply to implement the new conditions for membership.</p>
<p>The greatest sign of movement toward gay rights comes from something in administrative minutia. It is normal for the church to realign Apostolic Fields following a World Conference (our Apostles retire, so there are usually changes in the Twelve). This time a gerrymandered field has been carved out for Apostle Susan Skoor that stretches from Southern Australia to Eastern  Canada – and just happens to cover all of the non-US jurisdictions that proposed World Conference legislation expanding full priesthood and sacramental rites for gays. The extension of rights in that Field or in nations within that Field <em>might be granted</em> while maintaining sufficient distance from the World Church (and prying media) to protect the church in cultures hostile to gay rights.</p>
<p>Expansion to the US is much more difficult to do while maintaining any credibility to foreign governments and religious bodies that “this is just local jurisdictions acting on their own.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps more significantly in the long run than the particular moral issues – at least from the perspective of this Washington spectator – is the change these paragraphs make in the legislative rights of mission centers to set the agenda for the church. The Presidency immediately ruled 21 legislative proposals that had been painstakingly brought to the conference as out of order because they reflect National or Regional concerns. These rulings were entirely appropriate under Section 164 guidance.</p>
<p>However, the Conference later passed implementing legislation for the field and national conferences that make them “special conferences”. Such conferences operate under different parliamentary rules than World Conference. In particular,  Mission Centers lack the right to place items on the agenda of special conferences; that agenda is set <em>only</em> by the Apostle who calls the conference with the approval of the Presidency. In short, this revelation makes the Community of Christ less democratic and more theocratic than it was a year ago.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline">SECTION 164, PARAGRAPH 8</span></strong></p>
<p>Paragraph 8, by contrast, shows the flexibility and speed with which the Community of Christ can move on organizational issues when it wishes to do so. The Twelve and the Presidents of the Seven Quorums of Seventy have been meeting for several years in response to the immediately previous revelation (Section 163) to consider organizational changes to increase evangelistic effectiveness. Paragraph 8 is taken as authorization to make these changes.</p>
<p>Within 24 hours of Section 164 approval, the number of Quorums of Seventy was increased from seven to ten, the additional Quorum Presidents were named, and they were approved by the Conference and set apart to that calling. Jack Bauer couldn&#8217;t have moved faster. Clearly, the outcome of these discussions among the leading quorums was well prepared in advance, while they are still feeling their way around the notion of how and when national conferences will function.</p>
<p>Reorganization of the Twelve, while not fundamental, essentially separates the world into 10 Fields for the moment, each led by an Apostle, with the remaining two Apostles focusing on Headquarters-oriented tasks. For the first time, a single Quorum of Seventy will be aligned with the geographic or other missionary focus of a Field Apostle.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline">SECTION 164, PARAGRAPH 9</span></strong></p>
<p>The final paragraph of the document is a benediction of sorts, and a challenge that the rise of Zion is no farther away than the willingness of all of us – all the “beloved children of the Restoration” – to overcome our insecurities and embrace a Christ-like life.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;The mission of Jesus Christ is what matters most to the journet ahead.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
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		<title>The Relational Definition of Sin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of my favorite experiences at the BYU Studies Symposium was listening to a set of two talks on the subject of sin.  That might not usually be such a fascinating topic!  But these had a twist which captured my interest &#8212; sin and its effect upon human relationships. Josh Probert, in his talk &#8220;Joseph Smith and the Relational Definition of Sin&#8221; spoke of the &#8220;doctrine&#8221; of friendship/fellowship, one of the grand fundamentals of Mormonism. Joseph&#8217;s family kingdoms and welding Temple rituals altered the traditional parameters of Christian soteriology. Probert explained that early LDS emphasis on community reoriented the concept of sin and emphasized its effect on relationships. In such a system, the higher the disruption to covenant relationships, the more serious the sin. I confess I have never regarded sin in quite this way before. I have seen sin more as an individual problem, the action of an indulgent self. But I was entranced by Probert&#8217;s description, which recognizes that personal journeys might have rippling effects in community. Sin also disrupts one&#8217;s relationship to Deity. The following talk, &#8220;All Sin is Relational: Resonances of Mormon and Feminist Theology,&#8221; was given by Diedre Green. Green discussed the feminist perspective of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-7683" title="Avatar-BiV" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51-150x150.jpg" alt="Avatar-BiV" width="80" height="80" /></a>One of my favorite experiences at the BYU Studies Symposium was listening to a set of two talks on the subject of sin.  That might not usually be such a fascinating topic!  But these had a twist which captured my interest &#8212; sin and its effect upon human relationships.  <span id="more-10116"></span></p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/jp.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-10117" title="jp" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/jp.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="210" /></a>Josh Probert, in his talk &#8220;Joseph Smith and the Relational Definition of Sin&#8221; spoke of the &#8220;doctrine&#8221; of friendship/fellowship, one of the grand fundamentals of Mormonism.  Joseph&#8217;s family kingdoms and welding Temple rituals altered the traditional parameters of Christian soteriology.  Probert explained that early LDS emphasis on community reoriented the concept of sin and emphasized its effect on relationships.  In such a system, the higher the disruption to covenant relationships, the more serious the sin.  I confess I have never regarded sin in quite this way before.  I have seen sin more as an individual problem, the action of an indulgent self.  But I was entranced by Probert&#8217;s description, which recognizes that personal journeys might have rippling effects in community.  Sin also disrupts one&#8217;s relationship to Deity.</p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/dg.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-10118" title="dg" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/dg.jpg" alt="" width="323" height="213" /></a>The following talk, &#8220;All Sin is Relational: Resonances of Mormon and Feminist Theology,&#8221; was given by Diedre Green.  Green discussed the feminist perspective of viewing the self as always being in community and related it to the LDS paradigm.  She spoke of LDS members&#8217; idea of being &#8220;saviors&#8221; of men &#8212; that our own salvation is indeed contingent upon it.  The expanded notion of relational sin recognizes that we cannot harm a member of our society without harming the whole.  There is a communal impact of discordant relations.  Green also explored feminist theology that there is a difference in feminine and masculine apporaches to sin.  Valerie Saiving, for instance, “contests the traditional notion that pride is the universal sin, arguing that women’s sin of tending to dissolve herself into the agendas of others may go unrecognized—and unredeemed—if it is solely a male subject that is assumed in a doctrine of sin.” Rather than pride as the universal sin, Saiving proposes that for women, sin might appear in the form of giving “too much of herself, so that nothing remains of her own uniqueness.”</p>
<p>These talks got me wondering about a few things.  Does viewing sin as behavior that damages saving relationships reorient our focus to love, as Probert suggests?  This is an exciting way to see the subject, and seems in my mind to be very motivational.  But would it tend to absolve the individual from personal responsibility?  Another question this sparks is whether a relational definition of sin makes us accountable for each other&#8217;s sin.  (This might be why Mormons are always into each other&#8217;s business!)  If sin is regarded relationally, it would certainly be important to help others in the community to overcome sin.  But how effective can we be in such a pursuit?</p>
<p>Do you think a relational definition of sin might be helpful for Latter-day Saints in their journeys toward godhood?</p>
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		<title>A Marital Confession</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Aaron R. aka Rico</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A recent visit at FMH and John Dehlin’s Mormon Stories interview with fmhLisa (Butterworth) has made me realise something about myself that I am not very proud of.  Therefore, in the spirit of a post I wrote for another blog, I want to confess something.  I am sexist. It is not intentional.  In fact, I have, and would still call myself a feminist.  What are my qualifications for such a preposterous claim?  Well, first I wholeheartedly support equal rights and opportunities for women in all forms within a society.  Second, I was raised by feminist (then-single) Mormon housewife/full-time teacher.  Third, I have studied, support and work with feminist theory and research in my University education.  Fourth, I try to support my wife in her decisions regarding being a working-mum or SAHM. Yet, none of this did not help realise something.  Lisa described this way, ‘When I got married I really thought that we would be equal partners, and we were.  We really were.  He did as much of the housework as I did, we both worked, we both made money… But as soon as I had a baby I was just shocked at how my world changed and how there [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A recent visit at <a href="http://www.feministmormonhousewives.org/?p=2974">FMH</a> and John Dehlin’s Mormon Stories interview with <a href="http://mormonstories.org/?p=868">fmhLisa</a> (Butterworth) has made me realise something about myself that I am not very proud of.  Therefore, in the spirit of a post I wrote for <a href="http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/03/08/confession-as-a-spiritual-practice/">another blog</a>, I want to confess something.  I am sexist.<span id="more-10056"></span></p>
<p>It is not intentional.  In fact, I have, and would still call myself a feminist.  What are my qualifications for such a preposterous claim?  Well, first I wholeheartedly support equal rights and opportunities for women in all forms within a society.  Second, I was raised by feminist (then-single) Mormon housewife/full-time teacher.  Third, I have studied, support and work with feminist theory and research in my University education.  Fourth, I try to support my wife in her decisions regarding being a working-mum or SAHM.</p>
<p>Yet, none of this did not help realise something.  Lisa described this way, ‘When I got married I really thought that we would be equal partners, and we were.  We really were.  He did as much of the housework as I did, we both worked, we both made money… But as soon as I had a baby I was just shocked at how my world changed and how there was no equality anymore.  I was shocked of how much of that burden fell on me.’</p>
<p>From a different perspective <a href="http://www.feministmormonhousewives.org/?p=2974">Reese Dixon</a> both glories and laments being able to have only one ‘role’; that of being a mother.</p>
<p>I guess I have failed to see how our relationship is becoming more unequal.  It started out great, I think.  She worked while I was at School and I did the majority of the housework and the cooking.  Shortly after I was married I was called to a position that meant I was out a few evenings of the week; and then things began to change.  A short time later, my calling changed, and I was out more.  We moved, but I kept the same calling, had a baby and I graduated.  We managed that ok, I was home a lot and tried to make sure I would regularly share the different responsibilities.  I was home most of the time during the day and I could do that.  My wife returned to work and I looked after our baby and began my post-graduate study.</p>
<p>Just over a year ago, my calling changed again.  Now I was out nearly every evening and my studies required more time.  We got pregnant again and I began teaching.  Finally another baby arrived.</p>
<p>Recently, there are some weeks that I never cook and rarely clean.  Though I home, I work and so I see the kids but I don&#8217;t always get time with them and sometimes I rarely  change nappies or help feed.</p>
<p>Now, some might be thinking that if this is how we balance the responsibilities then that is fine.  The issue here is that I am unhappy with this and so is my wife.  The issue is that it is easier for me to allow this pattern to continue and I don&#8217;t like that about myself.</p>
<p>It is apparent that the systemic sexism in both the Church and the UK has made it easy for me to live out a patriarchal (not in a good way) existence by drawing me into the public sphere while simultaneously requiring that my wife live her life in private sphere.  That requirement is disseminated through the subtle, pernicious and quiet expectation that my wife will support me in my responsibilities.</p>
<p>I have need to repent for choosing to be acted upon rather than to act against the tide of these social influences.</p>
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		<title>The Virgin and the Whore: Thinking Beyond Dinah and Potiphar&#8217;s Wife</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bored in Vernal</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[OT SS Lesson #11 Lesson 11 in the Old Testament manual employs several stories from Genesis 34-39 to develop the theme of sexual morality. Joseph&#8217;s actions embody the &#8220;Lord&#8217;s standards&#8221; for morality and are contrasted with the actions of Shechem, Reuben, and Judah. You may notice that the featured characters in the lesson are all male. What shall a woman do with a lesson like this? I think the idea is for women to identify with Joseph &#8212; to be virtuous when facing temptation. But Joseph is a man, his responses are male-oriented, and intentionally or not this approach will tend to render the women in your Sunday School classroom invisible.  Consideration of the female archetypes found within these chapters may yield some surprising insights. As feminists might point out, a patriarchal &#8220;virgin/whore&#8221; stereotype divides and traps women on one side or the other.  Yet this is how our lesson is developed with regard to the female characters.  Joseph&#8217;s encounter with the wife of Potiphar introduces us to &#8220;The Whore.&#8221;  This nameless woman casts her eyes upon Joseph, and day after day entreats him to lie with her.  In a final, dramatic scene, she grabs his clothing and tears it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-7683" title="Avatar-BiV" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51-150x150.jpg" alt="Avatar-BiV" width="80" height="80" /></a><big><strong>OT SS Lesson #11</strong></big></p>
<p><a href="http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=7255c106dac20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;vgnextoid=198bf4b13819d110VgnVCM1000003a94610aRCRD">Lesson 11</a> in the Old Testament manual employs several stories from <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/gen/34">Genesis 34-39</a> to develop the theme of sexual morality. Joseph&#8217;s actions embody the &#8220;Lord&#8217;s standards&#8221; for morality and are contrasted with the actions of Shechem, Reuben, and Judah.  You may notice that the featured characters in the lesson are all male.  What shall a woman do with a lesson like this?  I think the idea is for women to identify with Joseph &#8212; to be virtuous when facing temptation.  But Joseph is a man, his responses are male-oriented, and intentionally or not this approach will tend to render the women in your Sunday School classroom invisible.  Consideration of the female archetypes found within these chapters may yield some surprising insights.<span id="more-9973"></span></p>
<p>As feminists might point out, a patriarchal &#8220;virgin/whore&#8221; stereotype divides and traps women on one side or the other.  Yet this is how our lesson is developed with regard to the female characters.  Joseph&#8217;s encounter with the wife of Potiphar introduces us to &#8220;The Whore.&#8221;  This nameless woman casts her eyes upon Joseph, and day after day entreats him to lie with her.  In a final, dramatic scene, she grabs his clothing and tears it from his body as he pulls away from her and runs off.  Then she lies and accuses him of trying to rape her.</p>
<p>In the next scriptural passage the lesson covers, we meet Dinah, &#8220;The Virgin.&#8221;  As with most archetypal women figures, Dinah is shadowed and one-dimensional.  She is described as a daughter and a sister to be protected and avenged by her father and brothers. She is &#8220;defiled&#8221; by Shechem, a young man of highborn status from a neighboring town.  We are not told how she feels about this lover, whose &#8220;soul clave unto [her]&#8221; and who desired to marry her.  The lesson material tells us that Shechem did not truly love Dinah, or else he would not have defiled her.  However, <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/gen/34">Genesis 34</a> describes his offer to pay any amount for a dowry, and his willingness to join with her people, submit to circumcision, and convince all of the men in his town to do the same. In my eyes he is a tragic and romantic figure.  I wish there was more information available about Dinah&#8217;s response to this man. But the lack of detail is necessary to preserve the asexual, archetypal element of the deflowered virgin in the story.</p>
<p>Perhaps it is an unconscious arrangement for the writers of this lesson to have placed these two bilateral female archetypes side by side in the lesson material, but if so, it is all the more significant.  Archetypes are elementary ideas stemming from the unconscious.  The danger in including only these two women in the lesson is that they are both powerless.  Dinah the virgin is a victim of a powerful male, and Mrs. Potiphar the whore is also rendered powerless by the virtuous Joseph who rejects her advances.  Males in the stories are shown as individuals with the ability and strength to choose and control their sexual and moral options.</p>
<p>One might feel constrained by the material on women available in the scriptures, however, there exists within these passages a third woman who might prove to be a foil to our figurative virgin and whore.  Let us examine the lessons taught by the actions of Tamar in <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/gen/38/1-30#1">Genesis 38</a>.  Tamar is conspicuously left out of the lesson manual, though this chapter is included as part of the scripture block.  Judah&#8217;s actions are briefly contrasted with the faithfulness of Joseph.  Going back to the scripture passage, we read that Judah chose Tamar to be the wife of his eldest son, Er.  When Er died, custom dictated that the next son, Onan would marry her and provide her with children.  Onan&#8217;s refusal to properly execute his responsibility resulted in his death, and the next son, Shelah, was not old enough to marry.  Judah told Tamar to go and live with her parents until Shelah was grown, and then promptly forgot or ignored the family&#8217;s responsibilities to the widow.  Several years later, Tamar conceived a plan to remind Judah of these things.</p>
<p><a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=Deut+25%3A5-10&amp;do=Search">Deuteronomy 25: 5-10</a> shows that the law was on her side, and Tamar could have reported Judah to the authorities, legally loosened Judah&#8217;s shoe, and spit in his face.  But she was smarter than that.  In contrast to the other women acknowledged in the lesson, Tamar deliberately used her sexuality to affect her destiny.  Despite the fact that she lived in a culture where women had little power or choice over their own circumstances, she seized her opportunities and was rewarded for so doing.  If we reduce this gospel lesson down to following or not following a strict standard of sexual morality, we miss the potent, powerful, and purposeful choice of Tamar to initiate sex with her father-in-law.  This choice is presented in the scriptures as a faithful action.  The nuance and meaning of the word &#8220;righteous&#8221; as Judah uses it to describe Tamar is very significant in understanding whether her actions were justified. The Hebrew word used is <em>tsadaq</em>, &#8220;to be just or righteous.&#8221; This word and its derivatives are used hundreds of times throughout the Old Testament. It is used to describe the righteousness of Noah (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=gen+7%3A1&amp;do=Search">Gen. 7:1</a>), the Law (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=deut+4%3A8&amp;do=Search">Deu. 4:8</a>), David (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?type=references&amp;last=deut+4%3A8&amp;help=&amp;ro=checked&amp;search=1+sam+24%3A17%0D%0A&amp;do=Search&amp;show=%0D%0A%0D%0A">1 Sam. 24:17</a>), and even Jehovah (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?type=references&amp;last=1+sam+24%3A17&amp;help=&amp;ro=checked&amp;search=2+chr+12%3A6%0D%0A&amp;do=Search&amp;show=%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A">2 Chr. 12:6</a>). The meaning is thus: correct, right before God, or justified, in a very strong sense of the word righteous. Tamar was a woman of integrity who struck out in a creative though unorthodox way to fulfill her duty to herself and her family.  Her exploit resulted in twin sons, one of whom would continue the chosen lineage and become the progenitor of the Messiah.  Tamar is a complex human being and one of the few women in the scriptural record who is described in such a rich and nuanced manner.</p>
<p>What is more, the story of Tamar can be nicely dovetailed with a secondary message of Lesson 11, that class members &#8220;learn how to make all experiences and circumstances work together for their good.&#8221;  Surely Tamar deserves a prominent place in Lesson 11, wherever female members form part of the class population!  Don&#8217;t you agree?</p>
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<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Engraving by Hans Collaert, Antwerp, late 1500&#8242;s.</div>
<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Tamar stands triumphant at the entrance of Enaim, on the road to Timanh. The staff and ring she holds signal that she has been successful in her mission to seduce Judah.  The man and woman (Tamar and Judah) in the background of the engraving suggest that coitus has already occurred &#8212; see also the neo-Latin inscription at the bottom of the image.  This engraving is unusual because it shows Tamar standing alone.  I like how it portrays her with power, a lack of regret or shame, and  a sense of mission completed!</div>
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		<title>From Patriarchy to Eternity</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am going to put this as simply as possible, and let&#8217;s start with a definition.  Patriarchy is a social system in which the father or eldest male is head of the household, having authority over women and children. Patriarchy also refers to a system of government by males, and to the dominance of men in social or cultural systems.  I know that this is a true definition, having found it on Wikipedia. However, if you disagree, scroll down and I will include definitions from as many dictionaries as I can google.  Patriarchy by its very definition is not compatible with equality. Equality is the quality of being the same in quantity or measure or value or status.  I realize that it has become politically correct to describe our LDS families as simultaneously patriarchal and equality-based.  But this is linguistically impossible. (Whew. I&#8217;m having uncontrollable urges to type in all caps.)   The Proclamation on the Family attempts to describe a family situation where fathers are responsible to preside and provide but at the same time both partners are obligated to help one another as equal partners. In order to do this, Mormons attempt to change the definition of patriarchy [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-7683" title="Avatar-BiV" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51-150x150.jpg" alt="Avatar-BiV" width="80" height="80" /></a>I am going to put this as simply as possible, and let&#8217;s start with a definition.  Patriarchy is a social system in which the father or eldest male is head of the household, having <strong>authority</strong> over women and children. Patriarchy also refers to a system of government by males, and to the <strong>dominance</strong> of men in social or cultural systems.  I know that this is a true definition, having found it on Wikipedia. However, if you disagree, scroll down and I will include definitions from as many dictionaries as I can google.  Patriarchy by its very definition is not compatible with equality.<span id="more-9659"></span></p>
<p>Equality is the quality of being the same in quantity or measure or value or status.  I realize that it has become politically correct to describe our LDS families as simultaneously patriarchal and equality-based.  But this is linguistically impossible. (Whew. I&#8217;m having uncontrollable urges to type in all caps.)   The <a href="http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,161-1-11-1,00.html">Proclamation</a> on the Family attempts to describe a family situation where fathers are responsible to preside and provide but at the same time both partners are obligated to help one another as equal partners.</p>
<p>In order to do this, Mormons attempt to change the definition of patriarchy to something that has little or no meaning. The patriarch in a family, they insist, does not hold the power or authority over his wife to the extent that it would negate her equality.  Instead, he merely calls the family together for spiritual activities and invites a family member to say the prayer.  As<a href="http://ldsdoctrine.blogspot.com/2007/07/lds-patriarchy.html"> one blogger</a> so succinctly stated it, <span style="color: #993300;">&#8220;The patriarch is the presiderer, not the deciderer.&#8221;</span> He further explains:</p>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #993300;"><em>&#8220;Men and women are consider to be of equal status in the LDS church&#8230;Because childbirth and child-rearing tends to be spiritually sanctifying endevers for women, the priestood assigns men spiritual duties that they would not normally take on themselves&#8230; How does this presiding business affect decision-making? Not much. When my wife and I make a decision, we make it together. I would never just tell my wife, &#8216;I am the deciderer.&#8217; In conclusion, God has given that men preside because of our lack of spiritual fitness. We need the exercize.&#8221;</em></span></p>
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<p>Unfortunately, this blogger not only needs work on spelling words which begin with &#8220;e,&#8221; he also needs to look up the definition of the word &#8220;preside.&#8221; This word, far from softening the meaning of patriarchy, only serves to reinforce:</p>
<p>Preside &#8212; To occupy or hold a position of <strong>authority</strong>, as over a meeting. To possess or exercise <strong>power or control</strong>.</p>
<p>If the LDS Church is to move to a stance of equal partnership within the family, they really have no choice but to lose the words &#8220;patriarchal&#8221; and &#8220;preside&#8221; with respect to the position a husband holds in the home.</p>
<p>&#8220;But BiV,&#8221; you say.  &#8220;We&#8217;ve been over this ground many times before.  Why bring it up again?&#8221;</p>
<p>I bring it up because I fear that with the attempt to soften the rhetoric of patriarchy/presiding in the home and make it compatible with equality, our members are <a href="http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/02/01/women-men-and-the-fall/#comment-174481">losing the sense</a> that patriarchy is a social construct (see our definitions below).  There is no necessity to consider patriarchy an eternal condition.  I prefer to look at patriarchy as a negative effect of the Fall (thy desire shall be to thy husband and he shall rule over thee) which will be ameliorated in the eternal realm.  President Spencer W. Kimball wrote a foreward to the Brigham Young University publication of Hugh W. Nibley&#8217;s discourse on the ideal of marriage in God&#8217;s Eden and stated:</p>
<blockquote><p>“There is no patriarchy or matriarchy in the Garden; the two supervise each other … and [are] just as dependent on each other.”</p></blockquote>
<p>We do not know exactly what Priesthood and Priestesshood will look like in a post-mortal condition.  But we have been taught that equality will be restored.  Elder James E. Talmage wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>“It is not given to woman to exercise the authority of the Priesthood independently; nevertheless, in the sacred endowments…woman shares with man the blessings of the Priesthood.” Talmage then hints at a greater sharing of priesthood in the next life: “When the frailties and imperfections of mortality are left behind, in the glorified state of the blessed hereafter, husband and wife will administer in their respective stations, seeing and understanding alike, and co-operating to the full in the government of their family kingdom.” (&#8220;The Eternity of Sex,&#8221; YW Journal 25 (October 1914): 602-603)</p></blockquote>
<p>The shift to an equality-based home in recent times is commendable.  I feel it more accurately represents the balance of power and oneness which will prevail in the eternal realms.  A majority of two-parent LDS homes today are organized around an ideal expressed by Gordon B. Hinckley as follows:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;In this Church the man neither walks ahead of his wife nor behind his wife but at her side. They are coequals&#8230;  Since the beginning, God has instructed mankind that marriage should unite husband and wife together in unity.  Therefore, there is not a president or a vice president in a family. The couple works together eternally for the good of the family. They are united together in word, in deed, and in action as they lead, guide, and direct their family unit. They are on equal footing. They plan and organize the affairs of the family jointly and unanimously as they move forward.&#8221; ( <em>Ensign,</em> Nov. 1996, 49.)</p></blockquote>
<p>If this egalitarian goal is to be accomplished, the competing words &#8220;patriarch&#8221; and &#8220;preside&#8221; must be eliminated from the description of family dynamics. They are not useful in encouraging the father to play a more active role in the spiritual life of his family. Instead, the rhetoric should change to more concisely describe the desired result.  Why not urge fathers to become more involved in spiritual instruction, or to more enthusiastically model religious behaviors, if that is what we mean by &#8220;presiding?&#8221;<br />
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<p>Patriarchy:</p>
<ul>
<li>A form of social organization in which the father is the <strong>supreme authority</strong> in the family, clan, or tribe (Random House Dictionary)</li>
<li>A social system in which the father is the head of the family and men have <strong>authority</strong> over women and children. (The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language)</li>
<li>A family or society in which <strong>authority</strong> is vested in males, through whom descent and inheritance are traced. (American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy)</li>
<li>Social system in which the father or a male elder has absolute <strong>authority</strong> over the family group; by extension, one or more men (as in a council) exert absolute <strong>authority</strong> over the community as a whole. (Encyclopedia Britannica)</li>
<li>Social organization marked by the <strong>supremacy</strong> of the father in the clan or family, the legal dependence of wives and children, and the reckoning of descent and inheritance in the male line; <em>broadly</em> <strong>:</strong> <strong>control</strong> by men of a disproportionately large share of<strong> power </strong>(Merriam-Webster&#8217;s Online Dictionary)</li>
<li style="color: black;"><span class="DEFINITION">a society, system, or organization in which men have all or most of the <strong>power and influence</strong> (Macmillan Dictionary)</span></li>
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		<title>The Single Mormon Girl and the Priesthood</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everybody blogs, right? Why not me? Looking for my niche, my angle, and the one thing that seemed to make me stand out in my corner of the world. I found it: Being single. And 40. And Mormon. In a family ward. In a town where EVERYONE is under 30, sealed in the temple and constantly reproducing. The best humor is found in our painful life experiences. Read about mine and laugh with me. Or at me. Whichever This subject can be a tricky one. Gone are the days when a woman NEEDS a man for anything. We earn our own money, buy our own homes, travel alone, and live alone, but&#8230; we don&#8217;t  have the priesthood.  We need men for the priesthood. When I was married, Mr. Soldier of Fortune was a non member, so the priesthood was somewhat of a non issue. We lived close enough to my parents that on the rare occasions I was sick or otherwise needed a blessing I could go to my dad. I was young, invincible, and though the absence of priesthood crept into my consciousness every once in a while, I didn&#8217;t think about it much. Then came my nightmare of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody blogs, right?  Why not me?  Looking for my niche, my angle, and the one thing that seemed to make me stand out in my corner of the world. I found it: Being single. And 40. And Mormon. In a family ward. In a town where EVERYONE is under 30, sealed in the temple and constantly reproducing. The best humor is found in our painful life experiences. <a href="http://singlemormonchick.blogspot.com/">Read</a> about mine and laugh with me. Or at me. Whichever<span id="more-8279"></span><br />
This subject can be a tricky one. Gone are the days when a woman NEEDS a man for anything. We earn our own money, buy our own homes, travel alone, and live alone, but&#8230; we don&#8217;t  have the priesthood.  We need men for the priesthood.<br />
 When I was married, Mr. Soldier of Fortune was a non member, so the priesthood was somewhat of a non issue. We lived close enough to my parents that on the rare occasions I was sick or otherwise needed a blessing I could go to my dad. I was young, invincible, and though the absence of priesthood crept into my consciousness every once in a while, I didn&#8217;t think about it much. Then came my nightmare of a divorce and I was in so much emotional pain, I could hardly move. My family, seeing what I had been through, were sympathetic (they love me), but they were relieved to see my marriage over. I didn&#8217;t feel like I could go to my dad for a blessing of comfort when I knew that deep inside himself he was jumping for joy that Mr Soldier of Fortune was out of my life. I had been inactive for the majority of my marriage, but the year or so prior to our break up, I had started going back. No one really knew me. I usually just stayed for sacrament, but a few had introduced themselves and I was assigned home  teachers.</p>
<p>All that have been through an ugly divorce know that the pain can come in waves. Some you can stand against as the water rushes over you. Others are like a tsunami that sucks you in and spits you out in hostile and unfamiliar terrain. It was a tsunami day when I called my bishop and asked if he could come to my house and give me a blessing. I had caught him at a bad time; he was walking out the door to go somewhere with his wife. I apologized over and over and told him not to worry about it, but he came over anyway(it might have been the my unsuccessful attempts to hide the tears in my voice). I felt so embarrassed, but he gave me a lovely blessing that truly got me through a particularly dark period.</p>
<p>For several years after I divorced, I had no desire to date. the legal proceedings drug out(thanks to him)and I was determined not to get involved with anyone until the divorce was final. I had kind of settled into being single and I actually liked it. I worked hard, had fun with my friends, traveled, and pretty much did whatever I wanted to do. I was pretty active in a family ward that didnt treat me as some freak of nature because I wasn&#8217;t married. Life was good.Then I read an article in the Ensign about how people in the church are choosing not to marry and that it was considered a troublesome trend in our culture. It pointed out the commandments regarding marriage and encouraged single church members  not  disregard marriage as a worthy goal in  life. For the first time in 7 years I thought those words were written for me-a revelation of sorts. Most of the men I met didn&#8217;t seem to take their priesthood too seriously. Some had arrogantly lived beneath their privilege, unashamed of the covenants they broke, not sure if they even wanted to be in good standing with the church again. There were parts of me that held the priesthood in some disregard, sometimes even mild contempt. Heavenly Father had not blessed me with a faithful husband who honored his priesthood, so maybe this was just one of the many blessings that would not be mine in this life.</p>
<p>In more recent years, my heart has  softened on this subject. Going to the temple for the first time to receive my own endowment made me more aware of the eternal necessity of the priesthood. If you are a TBM(as I am)then you know in order to be exalted you must enter into the new and everlasting covenant of marriage. Sealed in the temple for time and all eternity. More priesthood.The first time I felt truly moved was about 3 years ago when I witnessed a baby blessing. It was a young father, a recent convert to the church, blessing his baby. He had invited quite a few men to stand in the circle and bless this tiny spirit so new to this world. They gathered and  formed the circle, placing one hand under the baby and the other on the shoulder of the elder next to him. It moved me that these men were joined in such a tender act and when the blessing ended and after the baby was shown to the congregation, there were warm embraces and slaps on the shoulder. For the first time I yearned to have an eternal companion I loved to be standing in one of those circles.</p>
<p>Late last year all the priesthood holders in my ward sang as a choir. I dont remember the song, but to see all of those men standing behind the pulpit singing, literally moved me to tears. Then today, the youth speaker canceled and the bishop(last minute) asked the three priests in our ward to share their favorite scripture and explain what it meant to them. These young men did fantastic. You could tell they were a little nervous, but they had scriptures ready and spoke in such a way that i was impressed with their conviction. I got a little misty seeing these young men, future missionaries, husbands, and fathers grow in their faith before my eyes. It&#8217;s somewhat affirming to know there are still men in the church who take the priesthood seriously.<br />
Can we bridge the ever growing  gap that exists between strong and effective women who don&#8217;t &#8220;need&#8221; a man, but require the priesthood in order to gain the exaltation we strive for?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mormon Matters welcomes our newest guest poster.  Kate Kelly graduated from Brigham Young University with a BA in Political Science. She served a mission for the church in Barcelona, Spain. She is currently in law school at American University’s Washington College of Law, the only law school in the nation world founded by women. She has had a career of various and sundry amazing jobs. She has been a mortgage counselor, an interpreter, an English teacher and spent last summer in Manhattan working at the Center for Constitutional Rights, as an Ella Baker legal fellow. She and her nurturing, gentle angel of a husband blog at www.kateandneil.com. “Our Nation has had a long and unfortunate history of sex discrimination. Traditionally, such discrimination was rationalized by an attitude of ‘romantic paternalism’ which, in practical effect, put women not on a pedestal, but in a cage.” Frontiero v. Richardson, 411 U.S. 677 (1973). BYU is closing its Women’s Research Institute, and I, along with many others http://supportwri.blogspot.com/, am distressed by this decision. My distress comes, not only because of the consequences of this shortsighted move, but because it is emblematic of the overall problem in the church of romantic paternalism. Forgive me [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SwH0vvWDA-I/AAAAAAAAAdc/ICWp5i9rpFc/s1600/kate+profile+pic.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5404870128821273570" style="margin: 0pt 10px 0px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 69px; height: 90px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SwH0vvWDA-I/AAAAAAAAAdc/ICWp5i9rpFc/s200/kate+profile+pic.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><em>Mormon Matters welcomes our newest guest poster.  Kate Kelly graduated from Brigham Young University with a BA in Political Science. She served a mission for the church in Barcelona, Spain. She is currently in law school at American University’s <a href="http://www.wcl.american.edu/history/founders.cfm" target="_blank">Washington College of Law</a>, the only law school in the <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">nation</span> world founded by women. She has had a career of various and sundry amazing jobs. She has been a mortgage counselor, an interpreter, an English teacher and spent last summer in Manhattan working at the Center for Constitutional Rights, as an Ella Baker legal fellow. She and her nurturing, gentle angel of a husband blog at <a href="http://www.kateandneil.com/" target="_blank">www.kateandneil.com</a>.</em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">“Our Nation has had a long and unfortunate history of sex discrimination. Traditionally, such discrimination was rationalized by an attitude of ‘romantic paternalism’ which, in practical effect, put women not on a pedestal, but in a cage.” <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Frontiero v. Richardson</span>, 411 U.S. 677 (1973).</p>
<p>BYU is closing its Women’s Research Institute, and I, along with many others <a href="http://supportwri.blogspot.com/">http://supportwri.blogspot.com/</a>, am distressed by this decision. My distress comes, not only because of the consequences of this shortsighted move, but because it is emblematic of the overall problem in the church of romantic paternalism.<span id="more-8322"></span></p>
<p>Forgive me a personal anecdote. There are many things that are sacred about LDS temples and not discussed outside their walls, however, the fact that they are staffed almost exclusively by surprisingly spritely octogenarians is not one of those details. As a newly married couple my husband and I went to the Salt Lake temple to do <a href="http://mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/basic-beliefs/glossary/glossary-definition/sealing">sealings</a>.  When I got married I kept my surname and, for some reason it is only in Mormon contexts that this seems to particularly baffle people. This confusion almost always surfaces in American temples (since in many parts of the world, like all of Central and South America, it is social custom for the wife to keep her name). On this particular occasion one of the aforementioned elderly crew was having a hard time understanding why, though we were legally and lawfully wed, we had different surnames. He demanded that I give my reasons for such a decision, and not satisfied with the fact that it was my prerogative, he insisted that I was not respecting my husband. His final snide remark to me was, “well it will be nice when the light finally comes on for you.”</p>
<p>This angry brother was not alone in his contempt for independent women. I have seen many comments from people in the past few days that it is a shame that BYU is closing its Women’s Research Institute. I think that it is not only a shame, but also a sham. The official claims from the school are that the dissolution of the Institute will actually increase support of, funding for, and emphasis on women’s studies. This is emblematic of the doublespeak the BYU administration has perfected in response to concern over many issues. Less is more. Closing is just a way of beginning anew. We are shutting this program down because we find it so, so very important.</p>
<p>It is this same doublespeak that is used to simultaneously compliment and limit women in the church. As a Mormon woman I find it very uncomfortable to hear men talk about their wives in public settings from sacrament meeting to general conference. Traditional “feminine virtues” abound. Wives are described as “sweet,” “angelic,” “virtuous,” “charitable,” “compassionate,” “kind,” and, most importantly, “beautiful.” One Sunday we were asked to talk and I dared my husband to describe me as his “courageous,” “strong,” “intelligent” wife. I don’t want to be “cherished,” I want to be taken seriously.</p>
<p>There is a cohesive and powerful message to women running throughout the church. You have a (wonderful, glorious) place, stay put! This message runs throughout the history (ahem, polygamy &amp; the ERA) and modern role models provided for women. You want to know why “<a href="http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705343316/Utah-women-lag-behind-nation-in-higher-education.html?pg=1">Utah Women Lag Behind the Nation in Higher Education</a>”  just watch General Conference any given session. All of the women who speak fit a very neat stereotype in their appearance, the subject matter of their talks and their delivery (which was described by my own father this way: “Hm, I don’t really know what it is about them, but NO MATTER what they are speaking about, their tone of voice seems to convey that they are talking about knitting.”).</p>
<p>This stereotype is also, of course, very pervasive in LDS culture. Last fall, as a first year law student studying in San Diego, I was invited to an event for all of the LDS law students in the area. There were approximately 30 students and their respective families in attendance. I was the only female law student. We took turns introducing ourselves in a circle after the meal while “the wives” played with children in an adjoining room. All of the men introduced themselves and said, “(insert female name) is over there with ‘the wives’.” When it came to us, everyone turned to my husband to introduce me. The experience was both surreal, and disconcerting. We both felt that the temporal context of that event might better have fit the 1970s, when my mother was attending law school, or 1870s for that matter.</p>
<p>This institutionalized approach of romantic paternalism in LDS culture needs to end. BYU, and the church in general need to take a leap into the 20<sup>th</sup> Century (not to mention the 21<sup>st</sup>). Women and men are equal in the sight of God. We are not more virtuous. We are not lovelier. We do not want to be held to a different standard, or be seen through a colored lens. We want our concerns, choices and academic pursuits to be taken seriously.</p>
<p>Back at the Salt Lake Temple in the sealing room that evening, in a moment of perhaps poor judgment, I replied to the obviously irritated temple worker, “that’s funny brother, I was about to say the very same thing.”</p>
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		<title>Feminist Conference Matching Game&#8211;Updated with Answers</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 22:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you know your Apostles&#8217; wives? Bonus points if you can give first/maiden names in the comments. (Don&#8217;t cheat&#8211;only make a guess if you didn&#8217;t have to look it up!!) Katherine Jessop Christofferson[poll id="69"] Kathy Sue Williams Anderson[poll id="70"] Wendy L. Watson Nelson[poll id="71"] Mary Gaddie Cook[poll id="72"] Kristen Meredith McMain Oaks[poll id="73"] Mary Elene Crandall Hales[poll id="74"] Patricia Terry Holland[poll id="75"] Frances Beverly Johnson Monson[poll id="76"] Harriet Reich Uchtdorf[poll id="77"] Barbara Bowen Ballard[poll id="78"] Barbara Dayton Perry[poll id="79"] Kathleen Johnson Eyring[poll id="80"] Donna Smith Packer[poll id="81"] Susan Kae Robinson Bednar[poll id="82"] More bonus points if you know whose wife was mentioned during Saturday&#8217;s talks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know your Apostles&#8217; wives?  Bonus points if you can give first/maiden names in the comments.  (Don&#8217;t cheat&#8211;only make a guess if you didn&#8217;t have to look it up!!)</p>
<p><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/Ssaefijg6aI/AAAAAAAAAaE/P_SrUETkJfY/s1600-h/13.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5388168268884273570" style="margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 160px; height: 210px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/Ssaefijg6aI/AAAAAAAAAaE/P_SrUETkJfY/s400/13.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />
Katherine Jessop Christofferson[poll id="69"]<span id="more-7746"></span></p>
<p><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/Ssadnut7etI/AAAAAAAAAZ8/GQxTlhpPY90/s1600-h/12.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5388167310076508882" style="margin: 50px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 164px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/Ssadnut7etI/AAAAAAAAAZ8/GQxTlhpPY90/s400/12.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />
Kathy Sue Williams Anderson[poll id="70"]</p>
<p><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/Ssacp3ZylvI/AAAAAAAAAZ0/AOy6s8pBf1k/s1600-h/11.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5388166247256069874" style="margin: 50px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 169px; height: 271px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/Ssacp3ZylvI/AAAAAAAAAZ0/AOy6s8pBf1k/s400/11.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />
Wendy L. Watson Nelson[poll id="71"]</p>
<p><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsabUjVHxmI/AAAAAAAAAZs/KWY7n8ZBzz8/s1600-h/10.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5388164781578896994" style="margin: 50px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 160px; height: 344px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsabUjVHxmI/AAAAAAAAAZs/KWY7n8ZBzz8/s400/10.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />
Mary Gaddie Cook[poll id="72"]</p>
<p><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaaCvaTF2I/AAAAAAAAAZk/LaAnBWvY2Mk/s1600-h/9.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5388163376072562530" style="margin: 50px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 160px; height: 192px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaaCvaTF2I/AAAAAAAAAZk/LaAnBWvY2Mk/s400/9.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />
Kristen Meredith McMain Oaks[poll id="73"]</p>
<p><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaYwQ8t5oI/AAAAAAAAAZc/QFARhoZFWjI/s1600-h/8.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5388161959146153602" style="margin: 50px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 160px; height: 250px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaYwQ8t5oI/AAAAAAAAAZc/QFARhoZFWjI/s400/8.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />
Mary Elene Crandall Hales[poll id="74"]</p>
<p><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaX4rBwssI/AAAAAAAAAZU/RBHWQHE-Cxc/s1600-h/77.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5388161004073956034" style="margin: 50px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 161px; height: 300px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaX4rBwssI/AAAAAAAAAZU/RBHWQHE-Cxc/s400/77.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />
Patricia Terry Holland[poll id="75"]</p>
<p><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaV4r1qLgI/AAAAAAAAAZM/-22hVz5Mo3Q/s1600-h/7.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5388158805268377090" style="margin: 50px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 170px; height: 210px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaV4r1qLgI/AAAAAAAAAZM/-22hVz5Mo3Q/s400/7.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />
Frances Beverly Johnson Monson[poll id="76"]</p>
<p><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaVWFo8h8I/AAAAAAAAAZE/_32jCLSNzzo/s1600-h/6.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5388158210898954178" style="margin: 50px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 160px; height: 300px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaVWFo8h8I/AAAAAAAAAZE/_32jCLSNzzo/s400/6.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />
Harriet Reich Uchtdorf[poll id="77"]</p>
<p><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaUJWSCT7I/AAAAAAAAAY8/ahs_2kIHZKc/s1600-h/55.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5388156892516339634" style="margin: 50px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 160px; height: 250px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaUJWSCT7I/AAAAAAAAAY8/ahs_2kIHZKc/s400/55.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />
Barbara Bowen Ballard[poll id="78"]</p>
<p><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaTLepsW8I/AAAAAAAAAY0/eoA_4uimbxQ/s1600-h/44.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5388155829611158466" style="margin: 50px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 160px; height: 290px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaTLepsW8I/AAAAAAAAAY0/eoA_4uimbxQ/s400/44.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />
Barbara Dayton Perry[poll id="79"]</p>
<p><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaP4CUxerI/AAAAAAAAAYs/PRRsCSSEOX4/s1600-h/3.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5388152197054823090" style="margin: 50px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 175px; height: 200px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaP4CUxerI/AAAAAAAAAYs/PRRsCSSEOX4/s400/3.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />
Kathleen Johnson Eyring[poll id="80"]</p>
<p><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaPLchW0AI/AAAAAAAAAYk/XDhJRXE6rEE/s1600-h/1.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5388151430992809986" style="margin: 50px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 159px; height: 400px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaPLchW0AI/AAAAAAAAAYk/XDhJRXE6rEE/s400/1.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />
Donna Smith Packer[poll id="81"]</p>
<p><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaPHYjIfQI/AAAAAAAAAYc/pQ7qSa6F074/s1600-h/2.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5388151361207041282" style="margin: 50px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 159px; height: 350px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1OZixgeCpgE/SsaPHYjIfQI/AAAAAAAAAYc/pQ7qSa6F074/s400/2.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />
Susan Kae Robinson Bednar[poll id="82"]</p>
<p>More bonus points if you know whose wife was mentioned during Saturday&#8217;s talks.</p>
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		<title>LDS Grass-Roots Interpretations of the Eve Archetype</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since Eve is one of the most powerful archetypes for women, it&#8217;s not surprising that this story is at the root of many discussions of womanhood.  Feminists have generally been dissatisfied with how the biblical Eve story has affected values and attitudes toward women over the centuries.  Early exegesis of the creation story became the rationale for rules and regulations guiding women&#8217;s behavior.  Because Eve was regarded as a source of sin, there was a perceived need to harness the dangerous energy represented by woman.  LDS theology has attempted to redefine the symbolic Eve by picturing her as a free agent who recognized the need for a Fall and purposely &#8220;transgressed&#8221; the law in order to usher the human race into the mortal sphere.  This is an attempt to connect the name of the first woman with life (Eve=Havvah=life)  instead of forbidden knowledge, lust, temptation, sin, and death. Joseph Fielding Smith said: One of these days, if I ever get to where I can speak to Mother Eve, I want to thank her for tempting Adam to partake of the fruit. He accepted the temptation, with the result that children came into this world. … If she hadn’t had that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Eve is one of the most powerful archetypes for women, it&#8217;s not surprising that this story is at the root of many discussions of womanhood.  Feminists have generally been dissatisfied with how the biblical Eve story has affected values and attitudes toward women over the centuries.  Early exegesis of the creation story became the rationale for rules and regulations guiding women&#8217;s behavior.  Because Eve was regarded as a source of sin, there was a perceived need to harness the dangerous energy represented by woman.  LDS theology has attempted to redefine the symbolic Eve by picturing her as a free agent who recognized the need for a Fall and purposely &#8220;transgressed&#8221; the law in order to usher the human race into the mortal sphere.  This is an attempt to connect the name of the first woman with life (Eve=Havvah=life)  instead of forbidden knowledge, lust, temptation, sin, and death.<span id="more-7512"></span> Joseph Fielding Smith said:</p>
<blockquote><p>One of these days, if I ever get to where I can speak to Mother Eve, I want to thank her for tempting Adam to partake of the fruit. He accepted the temptation, with the result that children came into this world. … If she hadn’t had that influence over Adam, and if Adam had done according to the commandment first given to him, they would still be in the Garden of Eden and we would not be here at all. We wouldn’t have come into this world. So the commentators made a great mistake when they put in the Bible … “man’s shameful fall.”</p></blockquote>
<p>However, the archetype has not proven easy to overcome.  Even the LDS continue to draw upon the Eve myth for the defining of cultural roles and for the justification of women&#8217;s status in the Church hierarchy.  In the temple ritual, Eve, after having partaken of the fruit, is portrayed as an adjunct to the man Adam.  She promises to listen to his counsel while he is given access to the Lord.  She stands by passively  while he is addressed and taught by spiritual guides.  It is interesting to see how this portrayal has subtly softened and shifted over the years.  In the Church, as well as in other settings, the Eve archetype is slowly being reinterpreted.  I have been excited to see how this has been happening at the grass roots level of Mormon experience.  Lately there have been a few examples which I would like to highlight.</p>
<p>Brooke, at the <a href="http://the-exponent.com/2009/08/18/poem-time/">Exponent 2 blog</a> has written an original poem which contains an exploration of the Eve myth and its meaning to women:</p>
<blockquote><p>Things I Tell Myself When I Eat Apples</p>
<p>I do not believe in the necessity<br />
of breaking teeth to eat an apple,<br />
only in the necessity of breaking skin.</p>
<p>There also cannot be one true way<br />
to eat the apple.  Or to share it.<br />
But I&#8217;ll say it again, the skin must break<br />
(even if the skin itself is not eaten).<br />
But there is no need to scrape your gums on it,<br />
or break your jaw.  And if you are peeling<br />
or slicing it, be careful with that knife.</p>
<p>Do you hear me?  You don&#8217;t have to hurt yourself<br />
to eat the apple.  you don&#8217;t have to eat the skin<br />
or seeds<br />
or stem<br />
or bruises.<br />
God,<br />
you don&#8217;t even have to eat<br />
this apple.</p></blockquote>
<p>Follow the link above to read a fascinating discussion of the shades of meaning in this poem.  Here Brooke allows Woman to escape the paradigm &#8212; to decide for herself what parts of the apple she will consume, what effect it will have, or even if she will eat the apple at all.  After reading the poem, it becomes evident that we ourselves make choices about how we will experience our religion and how we will read and interpret our archetypal stories.</p>
<p>An LDS artist recently displayed online a work she has created depicting Eve about to bite into an apple.  This apple has teeth &#8212; menacing teeth which are bared in opposition to her determination.  Galen, the illustrator, has linked her drawing to other sketches: one of <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/22824364@N04/3778782413">Eve slaying the angel</a>, and <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/22824364@N04/3759017544/in/set-72157617205569694/">a study </a>of Alexander Louis Leloir&#8217;s Jacob wrestling the angel.  Taken together, these efforts betray an interest in a re-interpretation of the Eve myth, one in which Eve wrestles with Deity&#8217;s intent for her.  In these pictures, Eve takes strong and purposeful control over he destiny.  This coincides with LDS rhetoric on Eve, perhaps even more than the woman we encounter in the Temple, or even in the Proclamation on the Family.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-7515" title="eve" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/eve.jpg" alt="eve" width="500" height="320" /><br />
<img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-6668" title="bite the apple" src="http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif" alt="Eve" /></p>
<p>I first saw this image on facebook, and I immediately wrote a response to it, a poetic little quotation which I posted as my status: &#8220;The knowledge Heaven gives us hath torrid teeth. And, as Eve, we must meet it with our own determined bite, and welcome the crimson pain, and swallow the iron tang.&#8221;  But as I pondered these words that came out of my subconscious I realized that my take on the Eve story is a bit different than Brooke&#8217;s, or Galen&#8217;s.  I look at the knowledge offered Eve as painful, and necessary, and difficult.  I see the universal condition of women to be something which takes courage and perhaps even violence to face and to swallow.  So, as much as I admire the new visions of the Eve story that I see coming to the fore through Mormon women as well as modern feminists, I can glimpse a bit of the medieval mindset in my own psyche.  I&#8217;m excited about the opportunity that these two works have given me to consider the messages I&#8217;ve taken in, and find new ways to retell and experience them.</p>
<p>I thought I&#8217;d offer our women readers here at Mormon Matters an opportunity to explore their reactions to the Eve archetype.  I wanted to ask if they are comfortable with the social roles women have inherited with this myth, or if they would like to reinterpret it, to tell the story another way, to picture the meaning differently.  But then I realized that perhaps men aren&#8217;t all that comfortable with what they&#8217;ve gotten from their progenitor, Adam, either.  I know some men who don&#8217;t want to perpetuate the myth of the male provider figure in their lives.  To some of you it might be stifling or burdensome to feel you must always bear the weight of this responsibility.  Others might feel uncomfortable in a leadership role, with a wife covenanted to hearken to you.  What would it mean to be able to reconstruct your societal and spiritual role? Would you like to do it, and if so, how would you go about it?</p>
<p>Finally, since Church doctrine on the subject of men&#8217;s and women&#8217;s roles as relating to Adam and Eve is fairly vague and malleable, do you feel empowered to interpret the Eve (or Adam) myth in new and creative ways, as early Church leaders did?  Do you feel comfortable playing with the sacred narrative, as these artists have? If you would like to share a poem or a drawing with our readers, even better!  Give us a link in the comments.</p>
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		<title>Common Scriptures in Review: Gender &amp; the Sermon on the Mount</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I absolutely LOVE the Sermon on the Mount. It is my second favorite passage in all our recorded scripture &#8211; right behind the Intercessory Prayer.  However, we often forget that it was delivered to . . . his disciples . . . not to the multitude who had gathered because of his fame.  In fact, the first verses of Matthew 5 are crystal clear as to his audience: 1 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: 2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying, Here is my point &#8211; my two points, really. 1) This great sermon was delivered as a higher level discourse to his most dedicated followers &#8211; including those who eventually would form the new faith of Christianity.  Its standards absolutely are not easy, and its directives absolutely are not natural. Sometimes we hold the general population of the Church (and each other and others) to these standards, while Jesus himself took great care not to do so of the general population of his followers. This often is a good example of unrealistic expectations &#8211; and of demanding others live a standard [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I absolutely LOVE the Sermon on the Mount.</strong> It is my second favorite passage in all our recorded scripture &#8211; right behind the Intercessory Prayer.  However, we often forget that it was delivered to . . . <strong>his disciples </strong>. . . not to the multitude who had gathered because of his fame.  <span id="more-6835"></span>In fact, the first verses of Matthew 5 are crystal clear as to his audience:</p>
<blockquote><p>1 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:<br />
2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,</p></blockquote>
<p>Here is my point &#8211; my two points, really.</p>
<p>1) This great sermon was delivered as a higher level discourse to his most dedicated followers &#8211; including those who eventually would form the new faith of Christianity.  Its standards absolutely are not easy, and its directives absolutely are not natural.</p>
<p><strong>Sometimes we hold the general population of the Church (and each other and others) to these standards, while Jesus himself took great care not to do so of the general population of his followers. </strong>This often is a good example of unrealistic expectations &#8211; and of demanding others live a standard we ourselves are unable to master.</p>
<p>2) This great sermon was delivered mostly to the MEN who would form the leadership of his movement, even though there is no reason to believe that the listeners were all men.  (I personally believe there were women present.)</p>
<p>QUESTION:</p>
<blockquote><p>Did the gender composition of the listening group have an impact on the content of the sermon?</p></blockquote>
<p>Generally speaking, the list of attributes included in the Beatitudes are considered throughout history to be feminine.  Jesus was speaking primarily to men about how to change and grow (repent) and become godlike.  So,</p>
<p>1) Might the Sermon on the Mount have been different if the primary audience had been women?  If so, how?</p>
<p>2) How can we take the general message of repentance (change and growth and the acquisition of godly characteristics) and use it to achieve the proper balance we need to become &#8220;perfect&#8221; (complete, whole, fully developed)?</p>
<p>3) Must every individual acquire all the characteristics listed &#8211; or can a spouse/companion share that endeavor and, between two, create one united, balanced, &#8220;prefect&#8221; whole?</p>
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		<title>Women are from Venus, Men are from Kolob</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Based on my experience, I would guess that the majority of LDS women under age 65 would say that polygamy is NOT an eternal principle and that it doesn&#8217;t require any earthly worrying as a result.  While the men are probably not worrying about it (although any of them who are married to me should think twice about expecting additional wives in the future), my impression is that a higher percentage of them believe it is an eternal principle that will be practiced long term. Are the men in the church far more polygamy-neutral in their views than the women?  If so, it probably depends on how much they buy into the idea of traditional patriarchy (in which the man demands a hot dinner on the table nightly in Fred Flintstone fashion).  Most LDS husbands are fairly progressive in my experience, changing diapers and being nurturing, considering themselves equal caregivers to their children.  Even so, my guess is that many LDS men figure it could be polygamous later or not and that if not, cool, and if so, bonus!  In which case, I kind of want to kick their teeth in.  No offense. To bolster this assumption, men who are consecutively monogamous in their lifetime may [...]]]></description>
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<div>Based on my experience, I would guess that the majority of LDS women under age 65 would say that polygamy is NOT an eternal principle and that it doesn&#8217;t require any earthly worrying as a result.  While the men are probably not worrying about it (although any of them who are married to me should think twice about expecting additional wives in the future), my impression is that a higher percentage of them believe it is an eternal principle that will be practiced long term.<span id="more-5189"></span></div>
<div>Are the men in the church far more polygamy-neutral in their views than the women?  If so, it probably depends on how much they buy into the idea of traditional patriarchy (in which the man demands a hot dinner on the table nightly in <span id="lw_1241216302_0" class="yshortcuts" style="background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 0%; cursor: pointer;">Fred Flintstone fashion</span>).  Most LDS husbands are fairly progressive in my experience, changing diapers and being nurturing, considering themselves equal caregivers to their children.  Even so, my guess is that many LDS men figure it could be polygamous later or not and that if not, cool, and if so, <em>bonus</em>!  In which case, I kind of want to kick their teeth in.  No offense.</div>
<div><img src="http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200804/r243519_991051.jpg" alt="http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200804/r243519_991051.jpg" width="147" height="100" />To bolster this assumption, men who are consecutively monogamous in their lifetime may be sealed to more than one spouse while women who are consecutively monogamous are not sealed to more than one spouse.  Is that evidence that there will be polygamy in the eternities, or simply that leaders used to believe that, and the church is slow to change?  My guess is that we are simply slow to change, and that barring a mandate from Heaven, most of the leaders assume (perhaps rightly) that it will all be worked out in the end.</div>
<div>Ray has elsewhere shared his heterodox view that relationships in the eternities will be non-sexual and possibly polyandrous.  That sounds a little like the Greek Gods minus the sex.  I&#8217;m neither convinced nor dismissive of this notion, and so I include it as an interesting theory.</div>
<div><img src="http://blogs.psychologytoday.com/files/u15/Polyandry_I.jpg" alt="http://blogs.psychologytoday.com/files/u15/Polyandry_I.jpg" width="155" height="122" />But still, I wonder what the rest of you think will be the case in the eternities.</div>
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<div>Isn&#8217;t it weird that this kind of thing even crosses our minds?  So, am I correct in thinking that men are less repulsed by the idea of eternal futuristic polygamy?  How would men feel if it were polyandry instead of polygamy?</div>
<div>Discuss.</div>
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		<title>LDS worship skills</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 06:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today&#8217;s post is by The Chorister.  I just read a book called In the land of invisible women: A female doctor’s journey in the Saudi kingdom by Qanta A. Ahmed, M.D. Absolutely amazing read. I’ve been recommending it to everyone I know. Qanta is a British-born Muslim physician, trained in the U.S., who takes a position at a hospital in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. She goes to Saudi Arabia feeling pretty comfortable. Not too worried about how it will feel to live there because, after all, she is a Muslim. However, once she gets there, she quickly discovers that many of the Saudis are practicing a different kind of Islam. She doesn’t fit in. She rubs people the wrong way. She is puzzled by their beliefs, practices, and customs. She feels like she’s suffocating underneath the abbayah. I feel like that sometimes at church. I’m a Mormon—born and raised—but sometimes I look around and think: “Hey, wait – this is a different brand of Mormonism.” The church I grew up in doesn’t forbid 3-year-old girls to watch “The Little Mermaid” because Ariel dresses immodestly. The church I belong to doesn’t have men in leadership positions pull a woman aside and call [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;" lang="EN-GB"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Today&#8217;s post is by The Chorister</span>.  I just read a book called <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Land-Invisible-Women-Doctors-Journey/dp/1402210876/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1242441874&amp;sr=1-1"><em>In the land of invisible women: A female doctor’s journey in the Saudi kingdom</em></a> by Qanta A. Ahmed, M.D. Absolutely amazing read. I’ve been recommending it to everyone I know. Qanta is a British-born Muslim physician, trained in the U.S., who takes a position at a hospital in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. She goes to Saudi Arabia feeling pretty comfortable. Not too worried about how it will feel to live there because, after all, she is a Muslim. However, once she gets there, she quickly discovers that many of the Saudis are practicing a different kind of Islam. She doesn’t fit in. She rubs people the wrong way. She is puzzled by their beliefs, practices, and customs. She feels like she’s suffocating underneath the abbayah. <span id="more-5351"></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;" lang="EN-GB">I feel like that sometimes at church. I’m a Mormon—born and raised—but sometimes I look around and think: “Hey, wait – this is a different brand of Mormonism.” The church I grew up in doesn’t forbid 3-year-old girls to watch “The Little Mermaid” because Ariel dresses immodestly. The church I belong to doesn’t have men in leadership positions pull a woman aside and call her out for wearing a professional pantsuit to church. It doesn&#8217;t teach 12-year-old girls that &#8220;men are in charge&#8221; (and that&#8217;s a quote). I sometimes wonder whether there’s a place for me inside this church that I sometimes don’t recognize. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;" lang="EN-GB">Qanta felt like this, too, during her sojourn in The Kingdom. She tries to fit in; she tries to understand people’s motivations; she tries to live by the “When in Rome, do as the Romans do” adage. It was hard for her and never really got easier—at least I didn’t get that impression. Still, she tried. She decides to go on a hajj. She <em>wants</em> to experience this pinnacle of Muslim worship. Several chapters in the book are devoted to a vivid description of her pilgrimage. It reminded me much of the endowment ceremony—rich with symbolic meaning and ritual. She wants to be a good Muslim. She struggles to keep up, to follow along, to say and do the right things, watching her fellow pilgrims.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;" lang="EN-GB">At one point, she says: &#8220;This was part of Hajj, to be allowed to improve and develop <span style="text-decoration: underline;">one&#8217;s skills of worship</span>.&#8221; This really struck me. What kind of skills of worship do we (Mormons) have?? I honestly don&#8217;t know what to think of this. What are things that we have to be good at to travel the Mormon road?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;" lang="EN-GB">What about obedience?  Is that a skill?  How about acquiescence?  Those are both negative things, which is not my intention at all. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;" lang="EN-GB">How about serving others &#8211; is that a skill?  Patience (we do have a LOT of long meetings).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;" lang="EN-GB">Thoughts?<br />
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		<title>Defining Lust and Chastity</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 06:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matthew 5:27-28 includes the statement: &#8220;Whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.&#8221; Rather than debate that statement, although I am open to discussing it here, I want to focus on an underlying issue within something to which we refer frequently as the &#8220;Law of Chastity&#8221;.  My primary focus is on the injunction regarding eliminating &#8220;lust&#8221; &#8211; and particularly how it can be avoided no matter one&#8217;s surroundings and exposure. This a result partly of the long, interesting discussion we had recently about &#8220;naturism&#8221; &#8211; but I don&#8217;t want to rehash that discussion here.  Rather, I want to focus on one of the underlying currents that seemed to flow beneath the discussion. Rather than being hyper-sensitive to any and all possibilities for sexual stimulation and avoiding all such exposure, I believe the godly way to avoid the type of temptation embodied in &#8220;looking upon a woman to lust after her&#8221; is found in an expansive definition of &#8220;chastity&#8221; &#8211; one that goes beyond the more limited definition of avoiding &#8220;sexual&#8221; activity, &#8220;sexual&#8221; images or sexuality that too many people assume. First, &#8220;lust&#8221; is used in this passage as a verb [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/5/27-28#27">Matthew 5:27-28</a> includes the statement:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Rather than debate that statement, although I am open to discussing it here, I want to focus on an underlying issue within something to which we refer frequently as the &#8220;Law of Chastity&#8221;.  My primary focus is on the injunction regarding eliminating &#8220;lust&#8221; &#8211; and particularly how it can be avoided no matter one&#8217;s surroundings and exposure. This a result partly of <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2009/04/06/families-forver-naked-and-not-ashamed/">the long, interesting discussion we had recently about &#8220;naturism&#8221;</a> &#8211; but I don&#8217;t want to rehash that discussion here.  Rather, I want to focus on one of the underlying currents that seemed to flow beneath the discussion.<span id="more-5227"></span></p>
<p>Rather than being hyper-sensitive to any and all possibilities for sexual stimulation and avoiding all such exposure, I believe the godly way to avoid the type of temptation embodied in &#8220;looking upon a woman to lust after her&#8221; is found in an expansive definition of &#8220;chastity&#8221; &#8211; one that goes beyond the more limited definition of avoiding &#8220;sexual&#8221; activity, &#8220;sexual&#8221; images or sexuality that too many people assume.</p>
<p>First, &#8220;lust&#8221; is used in this passage as a verb &#8211; so, in this verse&#8221;to lust&#8221; appears to mean:</p>
<blockquote><p>to express or feel uncontrolled or illicit sexual desire or appetite; to have have an excessive craving for</p></blockquote>
<p>Conversely, the definition for &#8220;chaste&#8221; that opposes this construct best is:</p>
<blockquote><p>Pure in thought and act; innocent; free from lewdness and obscenity, or indecency in act or speech; modest (as, a chaste mind; chaste eyes).</p></blockquote>
<p>The interesting association in this definition is the use of the word &#8220;modest&#8221; &#8211; which in context is defined as: &#8220;limited or moderate in amount, extent, etc.&#8221; In other words, taking both of these definitions in the context of the admonition in Matthew, the underlying characteristic that Jesus appears to be addressing is &#8220;moderation&#8221; or &#8220;control&#8221; &#8211; being able to see and appreciate physical beauty without going to any extreme, without including &#8220;lewdness, obscenity, indecency, lust, etc.&#8221; This is a much more comprehensive and fundamentally empowering / liberating view of &#8220;chastity&#8221; than a simple abstinence from proscribed activities &#8211; which manifests itself generally as a negative and constricting principle. Also, <span style="font-weight: bold;">and this is critical</span>, the definition highlights being &#8220;chaste&#8221; as something primarily existing within the individual.</p>
<p>I am reminded of a story I heard once. I don&#8217;t know if it is historically accurate, but it illustrates this characteristic in a very simple and direct way. According to this story, a woman notorious for traveling in the nude (Lady Godiva, perhaps) was passing a group of religious leaders (the Pope and some Cardinals, perhaps). One of the Cardinals told everyone to cover their eyes and look away, but the Pope did not do so. The woman saw the reaction her passing had created, including the fact that the Pope did not look away &#8211; and she asked him why he did not do so. His response was something like:</p>
<blockquote><p>You are a daughter of God, and he has blessed you with great beauty. I appreciate that gift God has given and praise him for his gracious gift, so why would I look away?</p></blockquote>
<p>I believe it is important to remember that Adam and Eve covered their nakedness only after Satan pointed out that they were naked and that others would see it. I mention this simply to stress that the typical restrictions we employ as a part of this mortal existence are in place NOT because physicality and sexuality are bad things, but because we do not want to place undue temptation and stimulation in the path of others &#8211; we do not want them to &#8220;look upon a (wo)man to lust after her (him)&#8221; due to our actions.</p>
<p>However, if all were &#8220;chaste&#8221; in their thoughts and deeds, such restrictions would not be necessary. In other words, we seek &#8220;modesty&#8221; (moderation) in dress as an attempt to strike a proper balance between the ideal of chastity we desire and the practical state of lustfulness by which we are surrounded &#8211; between where we wish we were (as individuals and/or a society) and where we actually are.</p>
<p>True &#8220;chastity,&#8221; therefore, includes not only conforming to reasonable societal constraints intended to avoid placing temptation in the path of others but also having our hearts changed to not be tempted no matter our surroundings &#8211; <strong>to not &#8220;lust after her&#8221; even when &#8220;looking upon a woman&#8221; cannot be avoided.</strong></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a simple solution or suggestion for all &#8211; or even for any particular individual. I know it is neither the extreme conservatism of the Taliban in Afghanistan nor the extreme liberalism of South Beach, Florida &#8211; but I know that I must be able to walk in either world and be free of &#8220;lust&#8221; in order to fulfill the standard Jesus holds up in these verses.</p>
<p>In summary, my being chaste in thought and deed is <span style="font-weight: bold;">MY</span> responsibility. I can&#8217;t blame the environment around me &#8211; or those whose appearance &#8220;naturally&#8221; might tempt me &#8211; or claim the devil made me do it. I must change myself ultimately, even if I first must change my exposure and environment until I reach the point where they no longer matter. I shouldn&#8217;t dive into tempting situations recklessly, simply in order to test my control, but rather I can change my thoughts and actions until I can face such situations without temptation. If I never reach that ultimate objective, I must continue to structure my environment to reduce temptation, but eliminating all possible temptation can never be the default.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>In this passage, the woman is <span style="font-weight: bold;">NOT</span> at fault for her beauty or her &#8220;seuxality&#8221; or anything else; the man is at fault for how he reacts.</strong> While I believe in modesty in dress, at the most fundamental level the one being viewed is not &#8220;guilty&#8221; of causing the viewer&#8217;s reaction.  There are cases where s/he certainly bears some responsibility when acting in reckless disregard to the sensibilities of others, but at the most basic level the primary responsibility (at the very least) rests with the one &#8220;looking&#8221; to not &#8220;lust&#8221;.</p>
<p>At its most fundamental level, I believe &#8220;chastity&#8221; is <span style="font-weight: bold;">NOT</span> a restriction imposed externally; it is a characteristic developed internally.</p>
<p><em>Thoughts? </em></p>
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		<title>&#8220;Out-of-Wedlock&#8221; Is No Longer &#8220;Illegitimate&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 06:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a recent CNN.com/living article (&#8220;Out-of-wedlock births hit record high&#8221;), the discussion centered on the fact that the birth rate outside of marriage in the United States has risen nearly 25% in the past five years.  You read that correctly &#8211; 25% in 5 years.  The following are some representative quotes from that article: 1) &#8220;We would have headed down this path. The pregnancy just accelerated things,&#8221; she said of the couple&#8217;s cohabitation, the birth of Sadie and their 2005 wedding. &#8220;It was the way it was meant to be.&#8221; (Is this a statement of religious belief, or simply a description of fate?) 2) &#8220;Nearly 40 percent of babies born in the United States in 2007 were delivered by unwed mothers.&#8221; (Did anyone realize it was this high?) 3) &#8220;While 28 percent of white women gave birth out of wedlock in 2007, nearly 72 percent of black women and more than 51 percent of Latinas did . . . With the publicity of our first family, marriage might slowly become more of a norm for all. (That last sentence might be the most ironic statement in the entire article &#8211; that a liberal, Democrat who is a married President might [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright" src="http://www.tingliang-photo.com/html/Galleries/portrait/images/collage_babies.jpg" alt="" width="248" height="186" />In a recent CNN.com/living article (<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife/04/08/out.of.wedlock.births/index.html">&#8220;Out-of-wedlock births hit record high&#8221;</a>), the discussion centered on the fact that the birth rate outside of marriage in the United States has risen nearly 25% in the past five years.  You read that correctly &#8211; 25% in 5 years.  The following are some representative quotes from that article:<span id="more-4904"></span></p>
<p>1) &#8220;We would have headed down this path. The pregnancy just accelerated things,&#8221; she said of the couple&#8217;s cohabitation, the birth of Sadie and their 2005 wedding. <strong>&#8220;It was the way it was meant to be.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>(<em>Is this a statement of religious belief, or simply a description of fate?</em>)</p>
<p>2) &#8220;Nearly 40 percent of babies born in the United States in 2007 were delivered by unwed mothers.&#8221;</p>
<p>(<em>Did anyone realize it was this high?</em>)</p>
<p>3) &#8220;While 28 percent of white women gave birth out of wedlock in 2007, nearly 72 percent of black women and more than 51 percent of Latinas did . . . <strong>With the publicity of our first family, marriage might slowly become more of a norm for all.</strong></p>
<p>(<em>That last sentence might be the most ironic statement in the entire article &#8211; that a liberal, Democrat who is a married President might encourage marriage as a &#8220;norm&#8221;.</em>) <img class="alignnone" src="http://globaldiversitypress.typepad.com/.a/6a010536c1f37b970b010536e18140970b-800wi" alt="" width="688" height="303" /></p>
<p>4) &#8220;There are 9.8 million single mothers versus 1.8 million single fathers.&#8221;</p>
<p>(<em>So, is this really about women choosing, or is it about men not choosing?</em>)</p>
<p>5) &#8220;When <a href="http://www.cryobank.com/" target="new">California Cryobank</a>, which claims to be the world&#8217;s largest sperm bank, opened its doors in the late 1970s, 99 percent of its business catered to couples grappling with male infertility, spokesman Scott Brown said. Now, that market in the sperm donor world accounts for less than 14 percent, according to projections by Charles Sims, the organization&#8217;s co-founder and medical director.&#8221;</p>
<p>(<em>The article mentions lesbians explicitly as one demographic that has contributed to the declining percentage, but it also takes most of its examples from professional, career women who never marry or are divorced with no children.</em>)</p>
<p><img class="alignleft" src="http://invision-images.com/archive/stories/babies%20come%20from%20denmark/INV-THR-103/preview" alt="" width="225" height="105" />6) &#8220;Many of these mothers choose to tap known or anonymous sperm donors as the biological clock begins to pound. Perhaps they are like Morrissette, who divorced in her early 30s, wasn&#8217;t in a hurry to jump into another relationship and decided to have kids on her own.&#8221;</p>
<p>(<em>Iow, the woman really is fine without the man?</em>)</p>
<p>I found this article fascinating, particularly in light of the statements by LDS apostles and prophets about the destruction of the traditional family.  I wonder how everyone here reacts as they read the article and the quotes I&#8217;ve excerpted.</p>
<p><em>So, what are your thoughts about the rising number of out-of-wedlock births &#8211; and the pending death of &#8220;illegitimacy&#8221; when it comes to marriage and childbirth?  Which quote above struck you as the most interesting &#8211; and did any of them concern you more than the others?<br />
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		<title>Memo To YW Leaders:  Thanks, But No Thanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn Larsen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In our current callings, my wife and I spend a lot of time digging through Church instruction manuals.  I teach both the 12/13 year old Sunday School class (weekly) as well as Elders&#8217; Quorum (once a month).  My wife serves as the Laurels adviser, and is responsible for teaching at least a couple of lessons per month.  Nearly everybody who has served in a teaching capacity can point to some instance in which they have viewed the correlated manual as lacking in some respect, be it too bland, too overly positive in its historical view, or just plain out of date (ever try getting kids to relate to John Taylor&#8217;s days as a woodcrafter?) Last week, my wife ran across something in the Young Women manual that really caused us both to pause.  The lesson, entitled &#8220;Growing and Maturing In Self-Reliance (Part 1),&#8221; is centered around the notion that we, as Latter Day Saints, have a responsibility to become independent human beings.  That&#8217;s all well and good, but buried in the discussion points is the following &#8220;Note to teacher&#8221;: Be sure that the young women understand clearly that assuming responsibility and becoming self-reliant is desirable and is what our Father [...]]]></description>
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<p>In our current callings, my wife and I spend a lot of time digging through Church instruction manuals.  I teach both the 12/13 year old Sunday School class (weekly) as well as Elders&#8217; Quorum (once a month).  My wife serves as the Laurels adviser, and is responsible for teaching at least a couple of lessons per month.  Nearly everybody who has served in a teaching capacity can point to some instance in which they have viewed the correlated manual as lacking in some respect, be it too bland, too overly positive in its historical view, or just plain out of date (ever try getting kids to relate to John Taylor&#8217;s days as a woodcrafter?)<span id="more-4749"></span></p>
<p>Last week, my wife ran across something in the Young Women manual that really caused us both to pause.  The lesson, entitled &#8220;Growing and Maturing In Self-Reliance (Part 1),&#8221; is centered around the notion that we, as Latter Day Saints, have a responsibility to become independent human beings.  That&#8217;s all well and good, but buried in the discussion points is the following &#8220;Note to teacher&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>Be sure that the young women understand clearly that assuming responsibility and becoming self-reliant is desirable and is what our Father in Heaven hopes for and expects.  But this does not mean that we become independent of his direction in our lives or the sound counsel of parents or priesthood leaders.</p></blockquote>
<p>(<a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=d6371b08f338c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=b50bcb7a29c20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;hideNav=1&amp;contentLocale=0">Source</a>)</p>
<p>Can you figure out the source of our consternation?  Go back and read that second sentence again, and remember that this is a lesson being taught by a YW leader to a group of young women.  Who is left out as a potential source of direction and &#8220;sound counsel?&#8221;  The YW leader herself!</p>
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<p>To be clear, the purpose of this thread is not to bash priesthood leaders or ring the &#8220;do/should women have the priesthood&#8221; bell again.  Rather, I want to raise for discussion two issues I see resulting from this teaching:</p>
<ul>
<li><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">First</span></em>, this notion undermines the ability of our YW leaders to help guide the lives of those young girls for whom they are called to be stewards.  YW is one the few places where women are given the opportunity to occupy a prominent leadership role.  Just like in any other calling, those who put in the time and effort can have a major impact on the lives of those they lead.  But if we tell our YW leaders that their counsel is always (and necessarily) secondary to that of any random priesthood leader, we are cutting their legs out from under them.   Simply put, a leader cannot lead without authority.  And if we leave our YW leaders powerless, they will devolve into nothing more than figureheads.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>Second</em></span>, and more troubling for me, a diminished role for YW leaders sends (reinforces?) the message to our girls that they will always play a backseat role in the Church affairs.  I have served in Ward Council-type positions myself and, thus, I am aware of the wide scope of authority Relief Society presidents often have and wield.  But the MIA Maids, for example, aren&#8217;t privy to that example, leaving their YW adviser as the foremost non-parent example of how women can and do lead in the Church.</li>
</ul>
<p>You may be thinking to yourself, &#8220;geez, Larsen is making too much out of this.&#8221;  You may be right, but here&#8217;s why it gets under my skin.  I am <span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span> one who believes the Church is a patriarchal system designed to keep women down. Indeed, I have written <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2008/07/03/how-my-wife-exercises-her-priesthood/">elsewhere</a> about my wife having the opportunity to counsel a grieving friend in tandem with the Bishop.  But I am the father of three young daughters, all of whom will be entering the Young Women&#8217;s program in the next few years.  I want the Church to be a part of their life that brings them happiness and compels them to be better people.  I want them to have strong female role models within the Church, so that they know their voice matters, too.  Setting up a puppet YW leadership, for my money, sends the exact opposite message.</p>
<p>So tell me, am I reading too much into this? Are our YW leaders, in practice, made to play secondary roles?  Are we sending our girls the message that the only Church authorities from whom they can and should receive &#8216;sound counsel&#8217; wear suits and ties?  How do we correct the problem (or is not a problem at all?)</p>
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		<title>The Problem with Whistleblowers</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hawkgrrrl</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A whistleblower is someone internal to an organization who alleges misconduct.  So, what if the organization is the church?  Does the church handle whistleblowers effectively or not?  If so, how?  If not, why not?  In corporate America, misconduct is often characterized as a violation of a law, rule, regulation and/or a direct threat to public interest, such as fraud, health/safety violations, and corruption.  Whistle-blower protection is a serious concern as others inside an organization tend to &#8220;shoot the messenger&#8221; when it comes to whistle-blowers.  Major corporations are wise to provide options and multiple complaint mechanisms to handle internal complaints.  I work for one such organization.  There are many vehicles to handle internal complaints:  employee surveys, human resources groups (several different kinds), an ombuds office, online employee discussion forums that allow anonymous participation, and a very large compliance and legal department to proactively police regulatory issues. In my experience, the vast majority of what gets reported as &#8220;misconduct&#8221; is really something else, such as: a complainant with hurt feelings the result of poor relationship or communication skills (either on the part of the complainant or a direct leader or some other third party); in some cases, this alleged misconduct is actual [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A whistleblower is someone internal to an organization who alleges misconduct.  So, what if the organization is the church?  Does the church handle whistleblowers effectively or not?  If so, how?  If not, why not?  <span id="more-4614"></span></p>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://www.ticklethewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/whisteblower-photo1.jpg" alt="http://www.ticklethewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/whisteblower-photo1.jpg" width="189" height="125" />In corporate America, misconduct is often characterized as a violation of a law, rule, regulation and/or a direct threat to public interest, such as fraud, health/safety violations, and corruption.  Whistle-blower protection is a serious concern as others inside an organization tend to &#8220;shoot the messenger&#8221; when it comes to whistle-blowers.  Major corporations are wise to provide options and multiple complaint mechanisms to handle internal complaints.  I work for one such organization.  There are many vehicles to handle internal complaints:  employee surveys, human resources groups (several different kinds), an ombuds office, online employee discussion forums that allow anonymous participation, and a very large compliance and legal department to proactively police regulatory issues.</p>
<p>In my experience, the vast majority of what gets reported as &#8220;misconduct&#8221; is really something else, such as:</p>
<ul>
<li>a complainant with hurt feelings</li>
<li>the result of poor relationship or communication skills (either on the part of the complainant or a direct leader or some other third party); in some cases, this alleged misconduct is actual misconduct, but not always.</li>
<li>a misunderstanding of what the laws and regulations are or what the supposed &#8220;misconduct&#8221; activity entailed</li>
<li>an act of vengeance (e.g. the complainant hopes to exact revenge on another employee or leader using the complaint vehicle as a weapon)</li>
</ul>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://www.allhatnocattle.net/shoot-messenger.jpg" alt="http://www.allhatnocattle.net/shoot-messenger.jpg" width="210" height="157" />That is not always the case, of course, which is why it&#8217;s worth it to sift through hundreds of complaints to find the one that is a real issue for the company and that requires intervention.  To the complainant, the complaint is very serious and needs to be resolved to their satisfaction.  In reality, it&#8217;s nearly impossible to separate the complaint from the complainant.  The more neutral the complainant, the more valuable the complaint.  Some of these factors make the complainant seem less neutral:</p>
<ul>
<li>The complainant wants something of personal benefit as a result of the complaint.</li>
<li>The complainant is vengeful toward individuals they accuse of wrong-doing or there is a known personality conflict between them and an accused party.</li>
<li>The complainant has a history of making complaints.</li>
<li>If they no longer have any ties to the organization (an ex-insider), that complaint might also seem suspect to insiders, regardless of how neutrally the complaint is phrased.</li>
</ul>
<p>So, when it comes to complaints within the organization of the church, how do we do?  Here are some areas where I think we do well:</p>
<ul>
<li>Complaints are handled at the lowest level possible.</li>
<li>Complaints are generally handled in confidence (obviously, there are individuals who have blown this, but IME, local leaders tend to take confidentiality to extremes).</li>
<li>There is a focus on accountability (LDS scriptures actually instruct members to handle personal conflicts between them and the other party).</li>
<li>Actual misconduct complaints (e.g. fraud, legal, etc.) are generally taken very seriously and actions to remedy are easy to handle swiftly due to the lay clergy aspect of the church.</li>
</ul>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/wp-content/complaint1.jpg" alt="http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/wp-content/complaint1.jpg" width="144" height="200" />Where do we sometimes fall down?</p>
<ul>
<li>Females alleging sexual misconduct may find the process extra difficult due to the lack of female representation in church courts.  A female who already feels violated may have a difficult time in addressing an all-male leadership with painful details that are necessary to assess the situation.</li>
<li>There is very little effective access to top levels of the organization.  This is really only an issue if the complaint is about local leadership or if the complaint has organizational implications.  We should bear in mind that this is how the Catholic church got into trouble over the priest molestation scandals&#8211;by pushing too much to local levels to handle and not realizing they had an institutional problem before it was too late.</li>
<li>Organizations with deep pockets are often the target of spurious law suits which makes identifying the serious cases more difficult.</li>
<li>Disclosures about financial and legal activities are either vague or considered confidential.  But again, this is often the case in a corporation as well.  While financial disclosure of a publicly-traded company is more open, airing dirty laundry over minor litigations is not.</li>
<li>Local leaders may lack the skill to assess and deal with issues and may hold complainants at bay to cover their ineptitude.  They may use unrighteous dominion to punish the complainant.  And there is some open question about the church&#8217;s culpability when an untrained lay clergy makes a local error in judgment.</li>
<li>Individuals feel guilty for complaining in a religious structure.  This is true of all churches, but added to it is our lay clergy.  It&#8217;s harder to complain about an unpaid volunteer.</li>
<li>Whistle-blowers may not be taken seriously if they are not considered neutral or are frequent complainers.  But this is true in all human organizations, and is the basis for the age-old story The Boy Who Cried Wolf.  There&#8217;s <em>sometimes </em>a reason the messenger gets shot.</li>
</ul>
<p>So, what do you think?  Do we do a good job dealing with complaints or not?  Do we do a better job with more severe complaints or minor issues?  What should we do to improve how we handle complaints or is the system working just fine?  Discuss.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Hawkgrrrl</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thought I&#8217;d catch your attention with that line from &#8220;Saturday&#8217;s Warrior,&#8221; the bane (or bastion, if you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about) of Mormon doctrine.*  There was an interesting article in NYT about how children can negatively impact marriages.  So, what&#8217;s the real scoop on these tiny little homewreckers?  Read on . . . The article pointed to some flawed gems of conventional wisdom: Kids cement marital happiness.  Definitely not always true.  (see below) Empty nesters feel bereft and abandoned.  You wish!  Now that you&#8217;re gone, they can get down to doing all the stuff they&#8217;ve been putting off for 20 years:  travelling, reading, rock climbing, key parties, whatever. There was more quality family time back in the &#8220;good old days.&#8221;  Not at all.  Studies show that parents spend much more time with kids than they used to spend back when housework took over twice as long.  Even in homes where both parents work, kids often get more quality time with BOTH parents than those of previous generations.  Debunked! So, how are these little rugrats destroying marriages, at least in today&#8217;s environment, and are Mormons more prone to these problems due to our focus on families?  According to the article: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought I&#8217;d catch your attention with that line from &#8220;Saturday&#8217;s Warrior,&#8221; the bane (or bastion, if you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about) of Mormon doctrine.*  There was an interesting <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/05/opinion/05coontz.html?_r=2&amp;th&amp;emc=th">article </a>in NYT about how children can negatively impact marriages.  So, what&#8217;s the real scoop on these tiny little homewreckers?  Read on . . .<span id="more-4163"></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/father_knowsbest200.jpg"></a>The article pointed to some flawed gems of conventional wisdom:<a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/father_knowsbest200.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-4164 alignright" title="father_knowsbest200" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/father_knowsbest200.jpg" alt="" width="115" height="91" /></a></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Kids cement marital happiness</strong>.  Definitely not always true.  (see below)</li>
<li><strong>Empty nesters feel bereft and abandoned.</strong>  You wish!  Now that you&#8217;re gone, they can get down to doing all the stuff they&#8217;ve been putting off for 20 years:  travelling, reading, rock climbing, key parties, whatever.</li>
<li><strong>There was more quality family time back in the &#8220;good old days.&#8221;</strong>  Not at all.  Studies show that parents spend much more time with kids than they used to spend back when housework took over twice as long.  Even in homes where both parents work, kids often get more quality time with BOTH parents than those of previous generations.  Debunked!</li>
</ul>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/african20family.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-4165" title="african20family" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/african20family.jpg" alt="" width="166" height="120" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">So, how are these little rugrats destroying marriages, at least in today&#8217;s environment, and are Mormons more prone to these problems due to our focus on families?  According to the article:<a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/african20family.jpg"></a></p>
<ol>
<li>Having kids when you either don&#8217;t want them or are ambivalent about them can be disastrous for a marriage.  <em><span style="color: #0000ff;">Do people succumb to pressure to have kids when they don&#8217;t want them? </span></em></li>
<li>Having kids to solidify a rocky marriage (seriously, do people still do this?) is likely to backfire (to which I say &#8220;duh!&#8221;).  <em><span style="color: #0000ff;">Do people honestly think it will all work out if they just have kids?</span></em></li>
<li>Slipping into &#8220;traditional&#8221; roles as anything other than a matter of choice leads to resentment from both spouses and rocky marriages.  <em><span style="color: #0000ff;">Do people get sucked into traditional roles against their choice?</span></em></li>
<li>Spending too much time helicoptering over your kids and not enough time together as a couple or in adults-only time weakens marriages.  <em><span style="color: #0000ff;">Are we so focused on kids that we forget adult time?</span></em></li>
</ol>
<p>It&#8217;s no secret the church advocates traditional roles, is pro-procreation (when will the earth be plenished already?), and encourages family time.  Do Mormon couples experience these 4 pitfalls more frequently as a result, about the same, or less than others?  Are these issues we should be concerned about?  Do you know people for whom these issues have cause major marital strife?  If there is pressure that causes people to act outside their best interests, from whence does that pressure come, and how should it be dealt with.  My view is there are 3 kinds of pressure:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>External</strong>.  This is pressure from society, church, or family (other than spouse) to do what they want you to do or think is best for you.  It is best taken with a grain of salt if it conflicts with either of the next two.</li>
<li><strong>Intra-Marriage</strong>.  This is pressure from your spouse to do what s/he desires OR possibly what s/he thinks is best for you.  This is why people need to go into a marriage with their eyes wide open and full disclosure on things like kids &amp; careers.  But you have to do what you both can to accomodate and understand one another and arrive at a common place.</li>
<li><strong>Internal</strong>.  These are your feelings and desires and even your expectations of yourself and others.  It could be biological clock stuff, perfectionism, or your life&#8217;s goals and dreams.  You have to be true to yourself and to learn to love yourself and others, even when your desires may differ.  This is stuff you have to work through alone or in prayer as well as with your spouse, but ultimately, it&#8217;s up to you.</li>
</ul>
<p>That&#8217;s my way of looking at things, anyway.  But yours may differ.  Discuss.</p>
<p>*If you&#8217;ve never heard of &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_population">Zero Population</a>&#8221; before, that&#8217;s because the last time that term was used was before Donny Osmond had armpit hair.</p>
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		<title>Nipples, Sexism and Racism</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hawkgrrrl</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There was an interesting article in Time recently about Facebook&#8217;s censorship of pics with nips, specifically eliminating pictures of breastfeeding moms (and, in their defense, a few of topless women who just happened to be holding babies).  But, this brought up an age-old question of Mormondom:  why are there no nipples on the Nephites in the BOM vids?As expected, the Time article focused on the &#8220;merry war&#8221; betwixt the voyeurs (er, &#8220;shocked and outraged Facebook customers&#8221; or &#8220;trigger-happy censors&#8221; depending on your perspective) and the exhibitionists (uhm, &#8220;militant lesbian feminists&#8221; or &#8220;health-conscious nurturers&#8221; depending on your perspective).  But it also raised a few important questions about this very specific form of censorship: Double Standards:  Breast vs. Bottle.  Is breastfeeding shameful or obscene?  Should breastfed babies be neither seen nor heard at least in &#8220;the act&#8221;?  Perhaps bottle-fed babies should also be closeted away in fairness or stuffed under a hot blanket for cover.  Who is to blame:  the baby or the mother? Double Standards:  Sexism.  Does the female nipple have special powers not housed in the male nipple?  After all, males are capable of both lactation and breast cancer.  Is this bias strictly because men are more visually stimulated by women than women are by men?  Other examples [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was an interesting <a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1869128,00.html">article </a>in Time recently about Facebook&#8217;s censorship of pics with nips, specifically eliminating pictures of breastfeeding moms (and, in their defense, a few of topless women who just happened to be holding babies).  But, this brought up an age-old question of Mormondom:  why are there no nipples on the Nephites in the BOM vids?<span id="more-3704"></span>As expected, the Time article focused on the &#8220;merry war&#8221; betwixt the voyeurs (er, &#8220;shocked and outraged Facebook customers&#8221; or &#8220;trigger-happy censors&#8221; depending on your perspective) and the exhibitionists (uhm, &#8220;militant lesbian feminists&#8221; or &#8220;health-conscious nurturers&#8221; depending on your perspective).  But it also raised a few important questions about this very specific form of censorship:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Double Standards:  Breast vs. Bottle.</strong>  Is breastfeeding shameful or obscene?  Should breastfed babies be neither seen nor heard at least in &#8220;the act&#8221;?  Perhaps bottle-fed babies should also be closeted away in fairness or stuffed under a hot blanket for cover.  Who is to blame:  the baby or the mother?</li>
<li><strong>Double Standards:  Sexism</strong>.  Does the female nipple have special powers not housed in the male nipple?  After all, males are capable of both lactation and breast cancer.  Is this bias strictly because men are more visually stimulated by women than women are by men?  Other examples of female nipple prudery:
<ul>
<li>&#8220;topless&#8221; models at BYU must wear bathing suit tops</li>
<li>Barbie has no nipples.  Except the ones we poked into her with a pin.  Ouch!</li>
<li>Thanks to TiVO, Janet Jackson&#8217;s &#8220;wardrobe malfunction&#8221; had 125% viewership, meaning people who were watching TV watched it on average 1.25 times.  That would not have happened if 1) she had actually had a wardrobe malfunction (and it had stayed intact) and 2) access to nipple imagery was commonplace and 3) it had been an exposed male nipple.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><strong>Double Standards:  Racism</strong>.  And why are only native people portrayed topless with their nipples brushed out (or never brushed in)?  Could they have instead done the Mike Myers thing where they hold up various potted plants or small woodland animals to hide the naughty bits?</li>
<li><strong>Extreme prudery</strong>.  If men&#8217;s visible nipples are perfectly acceptable in polite society (including YM/YW pool parties&#8211;you can&#8217;t airbrush actual nipples off an actual chest), why are they too obscene for Mormon BOM vids and temple murals featuring topless native people?  Other examples of male nipple prudery:
<ul>
<li>Rodin&#8217;s statue &#8220;The Kiss&#8221; was deemed too racy.</li>
<li>ZCMI attempted to censor be-nippled male mannequins and Tarzan comics.</li>
<li>The famed copy of David in the British Museum comes with a detachable fig leaf that could be used to cover his naughty bits when Victorian ladies came to the exhibit.  Nips were okay, though.  It takes a lot of prudery to out-prude the Victorians!</li>
<li>Chad Hardy&#8217;s calendar of shirtless missionaries could be added here, although the objection was more due to brand image rather than the male nipple per se.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Here are a few thoughts on the topic from various ends of the spectrum:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;While it wouldn’t be hard to come up with examples of Mormon literature that convey a sense of repressed or frustrated sexuality, rarely do we find Mormon artists and writers willing to celebrate the beauty of the naked body.&#8221;  Hugo Olaiz</p>
<p>&#8220;Michaelangelo&#8217;s David is a prototype of pornography.&#8221;  Orem high school sophomore at a Scorn Porn rally</p>
<p>&#8220;“Don’t be paralyzed by prudery. Don’t fall into the opposite excess of pornography.&#8221;  Levi Peterson</p></blockquote>
<p>Is this (pardon the expression) making a mountain out of a molehill or does the mere site of male nips send you into a frenzy of sin?  Discuss.</p>
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		<title>The Unsung Hero of the Nativity</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I was setting up our nativity scene this year, I noticed the wisdom and cultural/racial diversity of the Magi, the docile farm animals (not minding the afterbirth on their food despite being herbivores), the grace and adoration of the Madonna with outstretched arms (and nary a stretch mark) toward the cooing babe, the aloof Boticelli-like angel who frankly doesn&#8217;t look like she&#8217;s that into it, and then I noticed Joseph&#8217;s face, searching vainly for some family resemblance as he peers down at Baby Jesus.  Often pushed aside in favor of the other players, Joseph is clearly the unsung hero of the Nativity. Why is Joseph the unsung hero of this story?  While he is not a principle player (the mother &#38; child take those roles), he is also not one of the quirky supporting cast members to this scene.  Among all the players, he is the one person who had the most power to create a very different narrative to this story.  Consider the following from Matthew: 18  Now the bbirth of Jesus Christ was con this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.  (&#8220;Before they came [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I was setting up our nativity scene this year, I noticed the wisdom and cultural/racial diversity of the Magi, the docile farm animals (not minding the afterbirth on their food despite being herbivores), the grace and adoration of the Madonna with outstretched arms (and nary a stretch mark) toward the cooing babe, the aloof Boticelli-like angel who frankly doesn&#8217;t look like she&#8217;s that into it, and then I noticed Joseph&#8217;s face, searching vainly for some family resemblance as he peers down at Baby Jesus.  Often pushed aside in favor of the other players, Joseph is clearly the unsung hero of the Nativity.<span id="more-3377"></span></p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/nativity20scene.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-3393 alignright" title="nativity20scene" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/nativity20scene.jpg" alt="" width="164" height="154" /></a>Why is Joseph the unsung hero of this story?  While he is not a principle player (the mother &amp; child take those roles), he is also not one of the quirky supporting cast members to this scene.  Among all the players, he is the one person who had the most power to create a very different narrative to this story.  Consider the following from Matthew:</p>
<blockquote><p>18  <a title="JST Matt. 2: 1 Now, as it is written, the birth of  . . . " type="H" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/18a"><span style="color: #40639d;">Now</span></a> the <sup>b</sup><a title="D&amp;C 20: 1." type="A" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/18b"><span style="color: #40639d;">birth</span></a> of Jesus Christ was <sup>c</sup><a title="GR in this way." type="P" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/18c"><span style="color: #40639d;">on</span></a> this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.  <em><span style="color: #0000ff;">(&#8220;Before they came together&#8221; could mean marriage or consummation, or in other words, Joseph knew he wasn&#8217;t the father.  &#8220;She was found&#8221; also makes it sound as though he discovered it because it was evident rather than through a spontaneous confession.)</span></em></p>
<p>19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just <em>man,</em> and not willing to make her a publick <sup>a</sup><a title="TG Example." type="B" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/19a"><span style="color: #40639d;">example</span></a>, was <sup>b</sup><a title="IE He desired to release or divorce her secretly." type="D" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/19b"><span style="color: #40639d;">minded</span></a> to <sup>c</sup><a title="Deut. 24: 1." type="A" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/19c"><span style="color: #40639d;">put</span></a> her away privily.  <em><span style="color: #0000ff;">(IOW, he wasn&#8217;t buying this &#8220;found with child of the HG&#8221; story, but he was also a mensch.  He could have been outraged, humiliated, veangeful, etc.  There are frankly some current examples of women in the middle east in similar situations that end quite differently.)</span></em></p>
<p>20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a <sup>a</sup><a title="TG Dreams." type="B" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/20a"><span style="color: #40639d;">dream</span></a>, saying, Joseph, thou son of <sup>b</sup><a title="2 Ne. 19: 7." type="A" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/20b"><span style="color: #40639d;">David</span></a>, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the <sup>c</sup><a title="Luke 1: 35; Alma 7: 10." type="A" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/20c"><span style="color: #40639d;">Holy</span></a> Ghost.  <em><span style="color: #0000ff;">(Now I&#8217;ve had some pretty cool dreams, but this is a rather important matter to rely on a dream.  He didn&#8217;t even have a visitation, just a dream.  Surely he had plenty of times he had to doubt this.)</span></em></p>
<div class="verse">21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his <sup>a</sup><a title="TG Jesus Christ, Prophecies about." type="B" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/21a"><span style="color: #40639d;">name</span></a> <sup>b</sup><a title="Luke 2: 21." type="A" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/21b"><span style="color: #40639d;">JESUS</span></a>: for he shall <sup>c</sup><a title="TG Forgiveness; TG Jesus Christ, Atonement through; TG Jesus Christ, Mission of; TG Jesus Christ, Redeemer; TG Jesus Christ, Savior; TG Redemption; TG Salvation." type="B" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/21c"><span style="color: #40639d;">save</span></a> his people from their sins.</div>
<div onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)">22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,</div>
<div onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)">23 <sup>a</sup><a title="Isa. 7: 14." type="A" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/23a"><span style="color: #40639d;">Behold</span></a>, a <sup>b</sup><a title="TG Jesus Christ, Birth of." type="B" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/23b"><span style="color: #40639d;">virgin</span></a> shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his <sup>c</sup><a title="TG Name." type="B" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/23c"><span style="color: #40639d;">name</span></a> <sup>d</sup><a title="TG Jesus Christ, Prophecies about." type="B" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/23d"><span style="color: #40639d;">Emmanuel</span></a>, which being interpreted is, God with us.  <em><span style="color: #0000ff;">(So, Joseph is basically marrying into a situation in which he, the man in a male-dominated society, has to play the role of father to a kid that isn&#8217;t his and he gets no say in naming the kid and even his say in how the kid will be raised is questionable.  Plus, a bunch of pressure because of who the kid&#8217;s Father is.  This took a lot of faith and humility.)</span></em></div>
<div class="verse"><a name="24"></a></div>
<div id="matt/1/24" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)">24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his <sup>a</sup><a title="Luke 2: 5." type="A" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/24a"><span style="color: #40639d;">wife</span></a>:</div>
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<div onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)">25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her <sup>a</sup><a title="TG Firstborn." type="B" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/1/25a"><span style="color: #40639d;">firstborn</span></a> son: and he called his name JESUS.  <em><span style="color: #0000ff;">(So, a delayed honeymoon as well&#8211;more inconvenience to Joseph&#8211;just to make it totally clear who the Father was.)</span></em></div>
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<div onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)">So, this narrative could have ended completely differently.  Joseph could have at least disgraced Mary and made it so she would have had no viable marriage options and had to raise Jesus on her own.  And he really had every reason to do so.  I have to wonder if he had doubts throughout his life about 1) his wife&#8217;s honesty, 2) his son&#8217;s parentage, and 3) his own sanity for agreeing to this arrangement.  We usually say what an honor it was to be the step-father to the Lord, but there&#8217;s an often-overlooked downside, too.  What do you think?</div>
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		<title>5 Cool Things About the 2008 Presidential Campaign</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post is another installment in my &#8220;5 Cool Things&#8221; series.  Today I&#8217;m giving a list, again in no particular order, of some things that are cool about the 2008 race for President of the United States.  I have tried to make the list from the angle of not knowing or anticipating which candidate will win. We will either have a black man, or a woman, in the White House. Conservative Christians and Mormons will now have a precedent set for supporting a woman with a young family as being more appropriate for a very high-ranking, important, and demanding job than a man. The dynamic personalities of Obama and Palin will attract a lot of otherwise uninterested folks who will then get some exposure to the important issues facing our country. Regardless of which candidate wins, and as long as they are telling the truth, most of us will see tax savings, less dependence on foreign oil, and some assistance towards making health care more affordable. All of the candidates for the office of President can pronounce the word &#8220;nuclear&#8221;. (Let&#8217;s hope for whole tickets possessing this remarkable ability in 2012!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is another installment in my &#8220;<a href="http://mormonmatters.org/category/5ct/">5 Cool Things</a>&#8221; series.  Today I&#8217;m giving a list, again in no particular order, of some things that are cool about the 2008 race for President of the United States.  I have tried to make the list from the angle of not knowing or anticipating which candidate will win.<span id="more-2372"></span></p>
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<li>We will either have a black man, or a woman, in the White House.</li>
<li>Conservative Christians and Mormons will now have a precedent set for supporting a woman with a young family as being more appropriate for a very high-ranking, important, and demanding job than a man.</li>
<li>The dynamic personalities of Obama and Palin will attract a lot of otherwise uninterested folks who will then get some exposure to the important issues facing our country.</li>
<li>Regardless of which candidate wins, and as long as they are telling the truth, most of us will see tax savings, less dependence on foreign oil, and some assistance towards making health care more affordable.</li>
<li>All of the candidates for the office of President can pronounce the word &#8220;nuclear&#8221;. (Let&#8217;s hope for whole tickets possessing this remarkable ability in 2012!)</li>
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