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		<title>Strange Bedfellows</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[One aspect of the church that makes me nervous at times is the alliances we form when our interests coincide with other groups, whether this is in the political realm (as is often the case), or even at times in interfaith work we undertake. I suppose alliances are a necessary evil if you want to get anything done.  Companies do it.  Countries do it.  Even individual people do it.  What are the dangers of these &#8220;strange bedfellows&#8221;? Association.  Having our views misunderstood or misconstrued by outsiders or even by our own members.  For example, do some members begin to think that we have a different or stronger stance on issues because our associates do?  Also, when an &#8220;ally&#8221; does something really stupid (many have), does that taint us by association? Motivation.  While our alliances might coincide, often our motives are quite different below the surface from those of our allies.  When those motives differ, our actions are likely to differ as well as our desired outcomes.  Isn&#8217;t it also likely that we might be used to achieve ends with which we disagree? Conflict of Interest.  Once an alliance is formed, it&#8217;s much harder to separate our interests where they naturally diverge.  There [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One aspect of the church that makes me nervous at times is the alliances we form when our interests coincide with other groups, whether this is in the political realm (as is often the case), or even at times in interfaith work we undertake.<span id="more-4470"></span></p>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/StrangeBedfellows-X.gif" alt="http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/StrangeBedfellows-X.gif" width="267" height="200" />I suppose alliances are a necessary evil if you want to get anything done.  Companies do it.  Countries do it.  Even individual people do it.  What are the dangers of these &#8220;strange bedfellows&#8221;?</p>
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<li><strong>Association</strong>.  Having our views misunderstood or misconstrued by outsiders or even by our own members.  For example, do some members begin to think that we have a different or stronger stance on issues because our associates do?  Also, when an &#8220;ally&#8221; does something really stupid (many have), does that taint us by association?</li>
<li><strong>Motivation</strong>.  While our alliances might coincide, often our motives are quite different below the surface from those of our allies.  When those motives differ, our actions are likely to differ as well as our desired outcomes.  Isn&#8217;t it also likely that we might be used to achieve ends with which we disagree?</li>
<li><strong>Conflict of Interest</strong>.  Once an alliance is formed, it&#8217;s much harder to separate our interests where they naturally diverge.  There may be pressure by virtue of the relationship to allow our allies greater latitude for things we might otherwise have taken a stance against.</li>
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<p>Clearly, there are some groups we have been leery to court as allies because the risk was too high:  the FLDS, staunch pro-life groups, the ERA (not sure that was really under consideration, but just wanted to see if you were paying attention), and the religious right.  But consider for a moment some of the alliances church members have formed.  Some of these are alliances the organization has sought out, and others are more &#8220;grass roots&#8221; alliances that members have formed, thinking their interests coincide:</p>
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<li><strong>Prop 8 Allies.</strong> Many of these are the same guys who:
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<li>think we are a cult</li>
<li>want to &#8220;pray the gay away&#8221;</li>
<li>make some very hateful and inaccurate remarks about homosexuals</li>
<li>supported Huckabee to knock Romney out of the race for POTUS because Romney believed Satan and Jesus were brothers and apparently in each others&#8217; fave five.  (Hey, I guess by that logic we also think Huck and Satan are brothers!)</li>
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<li><strong>Focus on the Family</strong>.  This is James Dobson&#8217;s ministry to protect families.  But they ALSO support school sponsored prayer, corporal punishment, abortion intervention, and intelligent design.  Additionally, they are far more politically involved in their causes than we are, and many of their causes are ones on which we have no clear stance or don&#8217;t go as far as they do (see the aforementioned items:  we don&#8217;t have a stance on school sponsored prayer, we caution against actions like corporal punishment at least within the family, our abortion stance is softer than theirs, and we teach evolution at BYU).</li>
<li><strong>Feature Films for Family</strong>.  Enterprises like this take a nice idea (clean entertainment that is family friendly) as a starting point.  Often they lack the talent and resources to make it high quality or a good value.</li>
<li><strong>Clean Flicks</strong>.  This UT-based company that catered to the LDS crowd by removing objectionable movie content was more of a benevolently-viewed off-shoot, but they were certainly viewed as associated with Mormons.  Hollywood didn&#8217;t like being edited by do-gooders and sued them over it (frankly these people don&#8217;t like to be edited by anyone!  have you ever seen a Director&#8217;s Cut?); Clean Flicks discontinued.  Then the owner was implicated in an unsavory pornography scam in Utah County.  In our lovely deseret.</li>
<li><strong>Rush Limbaugh.</strong> Obviously, this alliance only applies to those Mormons who are also politically conservative Americans, but since that seems to be a very vocal majority, this association is relevant.  Limbaugh emcompasses basic political characteristics:  fat, loud hypocrisy.  Frankly, he&#8217;s not doing Republicans any favors either.  Maybe if the NRA cuts him from their Christmas card list, he&#8217;ll finally know he&#8217;s gone too far.</li>
<li><strong>Stockpiling WingNuts.</strong> There&#8217;s clearly a distinction between the reasonable counsel to be prepared for emergencies and layoffs by keeping a supply of food and money on hand and the wingnuts who are building a bunker in the backyard with a stockpile of weapons in case they have to kill and eat their neighbors.  There are some supposedly &#8220;like-minded&#8221; individuals out there wearing tin foil hats and selling 72 hour emergency kits to church members.</li>
<li><strong>&#8220;Obamanation&#8221; Armageddon Theorists.</strong> This is an unpleasant blend of political conservativism (fine in its own right) and Rapture-mongering (the idea that we can bring the second coming on despite the statements that say &#8220;no man knows the hour.&#8221;)  Can&#8217;t we disagree politically without resorting to religious fear-mongering?</li>
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<p>So, what other strange bedfellows are out there?  How do we avoid &#8220;the appearance of evil&#8221; by associating with those who share a passing interest, but in reality have aims that are far different from our own?  Is this an inevitable problem, or are there ways to more clearly distance ourselves from allies whose agendas differ or even contradict ours on many points?</p>
<p>Discuss.</p>
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		<title>President looks at church history with fresh eyes</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/10/26/president-looks-at-church-history-with-fresh-eyes/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 06:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I was much more than casually aware of church history previously, since becoming president of the church I have engaged in an extensive study of our story. I have explored books and articles from a wide spectrum of scholars, authors, and publishers, ranging from the faithful to the skeptical and in between. Truth has nothing to fear from scrutiny. During recent decades there has been a mounting wave of added information as religious historians have gained access to more source material and have written with increasing frankness about various topics. Also, in the past few years, the media spotlight—including several high-profile television series—has been turned on to Latter Day Saint history because of the Mitt Romney campaign for the U.S. Presidency and the disturbing activities of LDS fundamentalist groups. Because of my exploration of various credible works, and probing discussions with historians, some of my previously held notions have been challenged and adjusted in the face of additional knowledge. The “apologetic” approach to church history—presenting our story in as favorable a light as possible—is not sufficient for the journey ahead. That approach does not evidence the integrity that must be fundamental to our witness and ministry. . . . [...]]]></description>
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During recent decades there has been a mounting wave of added information as religious historians have gained access to more source material and have written with increasing frankness about various topics. Also, in the past few years, the media spotlight—including several high-profile television series—has been turned on to Latter Day Saint history because of the Mitt Romney campaign for the U.S. Presidency and the disturbing activities of LDS fundamentalist groups.</p>
<p>Because of my exploration of various credible works, and probing discussions with historians, some of my previously held notions have been challenged and adjusted in the face of additional knowledge. The “apologetic” approach to church history—presenting our story in as favorable a light as possible—is not sufficient for the journey ahead. That approach does not evidence the integrity that must be fundamental to our witness and ministry.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="postbody">President Stephen M. Veazey </span><a href="http://www.cofchrist.org/OurFaith/history.asp">here</a></p>
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<li>Do you think Pres Monson and our First Presidency have done the same as <span class="postbody">President Stephen M. Veazey</span> have and explored books and articles from a wide spectrum of scholars, authors, and publishers, ranging from the faithful to the skeptical and in between?</li>
<li>Do you feel we believe Truth has nothing to fear from scrutiny?</li>
<li>The “apologetic” approach to church history—presenting our story in as favorable a light as possible—is not sufficient for the journey ahead. Would you agree with that?</li>
<li>Do you think will start moving to more of a pastoral approach described in<span> </span>Richard Bushman recent CES seminar?<a href="http://mormonmatters.org//www.lifeongoldplates.com/2008/08/bushmans-introduction-to-joseph-smith.html">here</a></li>
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		<title>A California Mormon visits the other Zion</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/17/a-california-mormon-visits-the-other-zion/</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[By Joe Geisner (guest blogger) No I am not talking about Utah. I left Sam Brannan&#8217;s Zion for Joseph Smith&#8217;s Zion on April 11, 2008. I arrived at about 4 pm in Kansas City airport and almost froze to death waiting for the rental car shuttle. I had left 80 degree weather for 40 degree weather and began to wonder who really was the prophet? Obviously it was Brannan. The temperature never rose above 45 degrees, and we had snow in April! I arrived in Independence about 4:30 pm and found the Independence campus of Graceland University. (Graceland is the Community of Christ equivalent of BYU, and its primary campus is in Lamoni, Iowa) I was early enough that I wanted to see &#8220;the&#8221; temple lot area.  I could see the spire of the Community of Christ temple reaching to the sky, and I knew that the lot was close to that. I found the Church of Christ (Temple lot) across the street from the Community of Christ temple. I knew nothing about this group except that they own the property that Joseph Smith had dedicated as the temple site for the city of Zion. I saw a sign for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img vspace="10" align="right" width="250" src="http://www.annuitech.com/ms/ftp/Jim/Independence.jpg" hspace="10" alt="Zion" height="141" /><em><strong>By Joe Geisner (guest blogger)</strong></em></p>
<p>No I am not talking about Utah. I left Sam Brannan&#8217;s Zion for Joseph Smith&#8217;s Zion on April 11, 2008. I arrived at about 4 pm in Kansas City airport and almost froze to death waiting for the rental car shuttle. I had left 80 degree weather for 40 degree weather and began to wonder who really was the prophet?<strong> </strong>Obviously it was Brannan. The temperature never rose above 45 degrees, and we had snow in April!<span id="more-424"></span></p>
<p>I arrived in Independence about 4:30 pm and found the Independence campus of Graceland University. (Graceland is the Community of Christ equivalent of BYU, and its primary campus is in Lamoni, Iowa) I was early enough that I wanted to see &#8220;the&#8221; temple lot area.  I could see the spire of the Community of Christ temple reaching to the sky, and I knew that the lot was close to that. I found the Church of Christ (Temple lot) across the street from the Community of Christ temple. I knew nothing about this group except that they own the property that Joseph Smith had dedicated as the temple site for the city of Zion. I saw a sign for a visitor&#8217;s center and hoped they were still open. I was lucky enough to find William Sheldon giving a tour and explaining the beliefs of this interesting branch of the Restoration.  William &#8220;Bill&#8221; Sheldon is the oldest and longest acting apostle for the Church of Christ (Temple lot). (For more on this Restoration movement, see R. Jean Addams&#8217; excellent article in <em>Scattering of the Saints</em>) Bill was, at first, quite defensive (or, as others told me, &#8220;he is always on the offensive.&#8221;) Once he realized I was not there to show him that my church was right, but that I was his student and wanted to learn from him, the atmosphere completely changed. He then became the teacher and from then on it was a very enjoyable experience. The Temple lot church&#8217;s visitor&#8217;s center, has two different cornerstones on display which they believe were placed by the early saints for the temple.</p>
<p>At 5pm we gathered at Graceland University in a beautiful auditorium that must hold a couple of hundred people. It was to attend a screening of the film, <em>A Mormon President</em>. Mike Riggs was kind enough to introduce the film. My impression of the film is that I don&#8217;t know what audience the filmmaker, Adam Christing, is looking for.  It seems to be more of a history of Joseph Smith&#8217;s bid for the presidency than Mitt Romney&#8217;s. I think that is unfortunate. Watching this film, I also realized how luck we Mormons were that Helen Whitney chose to do a film about us. </p>
<p>After the film I was able to meet and visit with Robert Flanders of <em>Nauvoo: Kingdom on the Mississippi</em> fame.  Bob is a pure intellectual. He sees history clearly and is gifted in explaining his thoughts to a lay person such as myself. I was able to spend quite a bit of time with Bob through the three-day conference. I wish I had brought along a tape recorder to capture all of his interesting comments. A couple I can remember: Bob told me that Nauvoo was a complete failure no matter how one looked at it, and then gave a few examples. Bob then talked about Mormons as Christians and said that when he teaches others about Mormons, he tells them if it walks like a duck, etc., then it is a duck, and Mormons walk like Christians, etc. Bob then uses an example of a black woman who was stranded in the SLC bus depot where a Mormon woman asked her if she needed help. The Mormon woman took this lady into her home, fed her, clothed her, and helped her find a job. Bob&#8217;s favorable comments here have credibility since he is no longer a member of the Restoration movement but has been a Presbyterian since the late 1970s.</p>
<p><img vspace="10" align="right" width="250" src="http://www.annuitech.com/ms/ftp/Jim/WallaceSmith.jpg" hspace="10" alt="Wallace Smith" height="287" />Next at 8 pm, Wallace B. Smith, the great grandson of Joseph Smith Jr., grandson of Joseph Smith III, and retired prophet and president of the Community of Christ presented his talk. It was incredible and will be made available in audio form and in printed form at the next conference. I will just give a couple of impressions. His honesty was overwhelming. He openly talked about issues that he faced as prophet of what was then named the RLDS church, as well as about issues that continue to face the church. These included the status of homosexuals in the church, the Book of Mormon as scripture, and the ordination of woman to the priesthood. His discussion of section 156 of the RLDS D&amp;C was amazing and quite spiritual. He discussed the concern of having it voted at conference and the possibility that it could be voted down. People came together and affirmed the section as God&#8217;s word, and dramatic changes began to happen within the RLDS church. One of the questions in the Q&amp;A period and Wallace Smith&#8217;s response was really amazing. He was asked if he edited his father&#8217;s revelations or if his revelations were edited. Wallace&#8217;s demeanor changed, and he spoke with authority as he said the revelations were his words and his words alone—no one edited those revelations except his secretary for grammatical errors. I was blown away at his honesty and spirituality at that moment. I have studied in depth the accounts of the 1978 revelation in the LDS church and found the differences startling. Also during the Q &amp; A Bob Flanders made the comment that when he left the RLDS church he thought they had painted themselves into a corner doctrinally and historically through continuing to hold fast to the teachings of Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon. After hearing Wallace Smith&#8217;s talk, he believed the Community of Christ was going to do just fine. The electricity in the room was incredible. After the Q&amp;A, I went up to ask Wallace Smith to sign a couple of my books and he was gracious enough to do this. They were George Q. Cannon&#8217;s <em>Life of Joseph Smith</em> (1st edition) and Roger Launius&#8217; <em>Joseph Smith III: Pragmatic Prophet</em>. In conversation, it came up about his contact with the LDS church leaders. He said that he met with Spencer Kimball a couple of times and had quite pleasant meetings with him.</p>
<p>On Saturday, April 12<sup>th</sup>, 2008, we met early at 8 a.m. for a panel discussion on &#8220;The Future Status of the Book of Mormon in the Community of Christ.&#8221; Four things stood out for me at this session. (1) Having an intelligent conversation about the Book of Mormon as scripture, as Christian, what effect it has had on Native American members, <span> </span>and its history both internally and as a modern work. (2) That an apostle of a restoration movement (Dale Luffman) would know that the book of Daniel in the Bible was written 400 years after it is claimed to be. (3) Mark Scherer as a true pastor and how that affects lay members of the church in dealing with these issues. Mark made the comment that members of the Community of Christ need to determine if will they follow the carpenter from Nazareth or the Prophet from Palmyra, asserting that by choosing the Nazarene they will do just fine. (4) The professionalism of the leaders in the Community of Christ.</p>
<p>I then attended four sessions from 10 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. They ranged from the Book of Mormon as a way to follow Christ, to the different movements in the Restoration, to women and the priesthood during Joseph Smiths time, to Book of Mormon authorship, to Mitt Romney&#8217;s campaign for the presidency. All sessions were stimulating and informative. The respect that was shown for differences in ideas and opinions was wonderful.</p>
<p>During one break between sessions, I introduced myself to Fred Larsen, prophet, seer and revelator for the Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Fred Larsen is the great great grandson of Joseph Smith Jr., the great grandson of Joseph Smith III, and the grandson of RLDS prophet Frederick M. Smith. Fred was kind enough to sign my copy of Dan Vogel&#8217;s <em>Joseph Smith; the Making of a Prophet.</em> He did this even though he admitted it was not his favorite book and that he disagreed with Dan&#8217;s conclusions. This is how kind and gracious of a man Fred is, and I found him to be quite interesting. Unfortunately I did not get to talk with him much because his wife was ill and he needed to get back to his home and take care of her.</p>
<p>At the dinner break I was invited by John Hamer to have dinner with him, Mike Karpowicz, David Howlett, Matt Frizzel, and Jan Shipps. We went to a restaurant that is owned by a member of the Community of Christ. It was excellent, and the food was not too bad either. David and Matt are both PhD. candidates in theology and/or history and members of the Community of Christ. Matt is the Community of Christ&#8217;s &#8220;Mission Center President&#8221; (&#8220;Stake President&#8221; in LDS lingo) for Chicago. The discussion was open and informative. We talked a bit about the early history of the Kirtland temple and the solemn assembly procedure. I was amazed at the knowledge at the table and the openness of the discussion. David laid out the events, and I brought up the amount of wine that was used to help with the visions and manifestations. No one seemed surprised or offended by my comments.</p>
<p><img vspace="10" align="right" width="237" src="http://www.annuitech.com/ms/ftp/Jim/JanShipps.jpg" hspace="10" alt="Jan Shipps" height="272" />Jan had to speak at 8 pm, so we hurried and finished dinner. Jan&#8217;s presentation was brilliant. She shared with us a personal journey of hers with Joseph Smith&#8217;s Restoration movement. A couple of amazing insights included her experience at USU getting her bachelor&#8217;s degree. She commented that her history classes were misnamed. Even though the class was American history, Civil War history, or Western history, in reality they were Mormon history classes.  Jan also described the famous Mormon History Association meeting in Nauvoo where Reed Durham spoke about Joseph Smith and masonry. She described the emotions, events, and finds that led up to the presidential talk. The important find was Reed Durham discovering the weather vane in someone&#8217;s garage. I thought it interesting that Reed Durham happened to be the one to find the weather vane for the temple, clean it up, and take photos. I am not sure if the vane or the photos are still available? <a href="http://www.utlm.org/images/masonictemplearticle/thehouseofthelord_p75.jpg">This image is all I could find.</a></p>
<p>She also described that as soon as Reed finished his talk, there was a loud sound of thunder and wind, followed by the lights going out in the Nauvoo Mansion house. Jan said there was dead silence before the lights finally flickered and came back on. She also said it was the only time she saw Leonard Arrington angry, and he said to her (referring to the likely fallout of Durham&#8217;s talk), &#8220;We have the archives open and now this will close them.&#8221; Jan also saw Durham&#8217;s talk as linked to Mark Hofmann&#8217;s decision to create his salamander letter.</p>
<p>On Sunday morning, April 13<sup>th</sup>, 2008, we met at the Community of Christ temple and Ron Romig graciously shared with us some of the treasures of the archives and the museum. These treasures include two seer stones passed down from the David Whitmer family, a letter from Joseph to Emma, Kirtland Bank notes, the supposed daguerreotype of Joseph that is making its rounds on the internet (the one that is of a painting of Joseph), and multiple photos of Emma—and, to my delight, my favorite one in which she is holding Hyrum David as an infant. We also got to see the printer&#8217;s manuscript of the Book of Mormon, the manuscript for the inspired version, and the actual Bible Joseph owned for that inspired version. The books we saw, among other items, were Edward Partridge&#8217;s copy of the 1830 Book of Mormon, Oliver Cowdery&#8217;s specially bound 1835 Doctrine and Covenants, a Book of Commandments, Lucy Mack Smith&#8217;s history, the evening and the Morning Star, and an original 1835 hymnal. We saw Joseph Smith&#8217;s watch, Emma Smith&#8217;s wedding ring, a woman&#8217;s slip hand made by Emma, Joseph&#8217;s cane, sword, sheath, and epaulets, and a dressing chest. We also saw David Whitmer&#8217;s hope chest in which he stored the printer&#8217;s manuscript. In the museum, we also were able to see the first three editions of the Book of Mormon together, the actual front door from Liberty jail, and a Mark Hofmann forgery. I would say the most exciting artifact/document for me was the &#8220;caracters&#8221; document. I believe this is the real Anthon transcript, and my heart almost stopped beating as it went around the room. I cannot express my feelings because this was an experience that I could have only dreamed about. The people of the Community of Christ and Ron Romig are the greatest.</p>
<p>Just a note about the seer stones: Both stones came from the David Whitmer family.  A chocolate &#8220;egg shaped&#8221; flat stone was first inventoried at the RLDS church in 1940. It has three holes drilled into it for leather straps.  The other stone is oval and flat and one can see a picture of it in Mike Quinn&#8217;s Early Mormonism and the Magic World View. Both are pretty close in size. The oval stone looks much like the same stone material that Rick Grunder sold <a href="http://www.rickgrunder.com/HistoricalArchive/whitmerstone.htm">(and the photo of that stone can be seen at Rick&#8217;s site.</a> Both stones are Native American gorget. The egg shaped stone is darker than the oval stone. I asked Newell Bringhurst if he had brought his hat so we could do some translating. Unfortunately he had left it at home. We were done at the temple around 11 am.</p>
<p>I next went on a search to find the Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerites) meeting house and temple. This is a nice two-story white wood frame building on a piece of land about an acre in size. It sits in a low area south of the railroad tracks. As I drove away from the Independence area, I was overcome with emotion that I had been to a celebration of Joseph Smith and his legacy that had fed me intellectually, spiritually, and geographically. To have buildings of Community of Christ, LDS, Remnant LDS, Church of Christ temple lot, and Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite) all within view of one another is quite amazing. To see and feel the movement that started from a poor itinerant farmer boy and the diversity of that movement will never leave my mind.</p>
<p>I next went on a trek to find Liberty jail, about 30 minutes away from Independence. This was a much different experience. Liberty jail reconstructed is housed inside a much larger granite building. There are mannequins of Joseph, Hyrum, and the other prisoners. The only part of the jail that is original is the rock flooring that is covered with straw. I have to admit it was very depressing for me. To think of the conditions and hardship for the people in jail was emotionally distressing. I also had a hay fever flare-up from the straw, so that did not help.</p>
<p>I needed something to pick me up, so I drove to Westport just outside Kansas City and walked around the place that the Santa Fe Trail, Oregon Trail, and California Trail met. This was the drop off point for the pioneers heading west into the frontier. There is also a building that was owned by Daniel Boone&#8217;s grandson that had been the major mercantile store for these pioneers to buy their supplies. It is an amazing building. It is currently a bar, so it is open to the public to go inside a look around. The people were quite nice to me and I pictured myself going back to those early times.</p>
<p>To gather together and meet with people whom I have been friends with for years, or to just meet someone who feels like they have been a friend for years, is an amazing experience. That is exactly what happened for me during those three days.</p>
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		<dc:creator>John Hamer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There’s a lot of talk in the media and across the ’nacle to the effect that Romney’s Mormon identity was the critical factor that torpedoed his candidacy. The argument is that a large percentage of Republican primary voters have anti-Mormon sentiments that kept them from supporting the candidate who, by the numbers, shared all the values positions that mattered to them most. The comparison has specifically been drawn with Log Cabin Republicans: Are Mormons a second group in the GOP’s big tent that find themselves despised by their fellow Republicans? If that’s where Mormons find themselves, we should ask:  What lessons can they learn from Log Cabin Republicans? In the first place, we should note that Log Cabin Republicans are not an interest/identity group. Gay people are the interest group. This is a critical distinction. Mormons today are block voters. With only anemic exceptions, they vote Republican as a group as an identity issue, i.e., without regard to their own individual self-interests. This is the kind of voter political parties like the most: block voters are chicks that parties can count before they’ve hatched. Mormons today are among the most reliable voting blocks either party has. But what’s a chick [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s a lot of talk in the media and across the ’nacle to the effect that Romney’s Mormon identity was the critical factor that torpedoed his candidacy. The argument is that a large percentage of Republican primary voters have anti-Mormon sentiments that kept them from supporting the candidate who, by the numbers, shared all the values positions that mattered to them most. The comparison has specifically been drawn with Log Cabin Republicans: Are Mormons a second group in the GOP’s big tent that find themselves despised by their fellow Republicans?</p>
<p>If that’s where Mormons find themselves, we should ask:  What lessons can they learn from Log Cabin Republicans?<span id="more-149"></span></p>
<p>In the first place, we should note that Log Cabin Republicans are not an interest/identity group. Gay people are the interest group. This is a critical distinction.</p>
<p>Mormons today are block voters. With only anemic exceptions, they vote Republican as a group as an identity issue, i.e., without regard to their own individual self-interests. This is the kind of voter political parties like the most: block voters are chicks that parties can count before they’ve hatched. Mormons today are among the most reliable voting blocks either party has.</p>
<p>But what’s a chick to do when he finds out he’s seen as an ugly duckling?</p>
<p>Let’s go back to Log Cabin Republicans. After the anti-Gay vitriol of the 2004 US election (which easily trumps the anti-Mormon sentiments shown this year), a lot of people were saying, &#8220;You’d have to be crazy to be a Log Cabin Republican&#8221; and who are these guys? I’m a gay small business owner and I have a bunch of Log Cabin Republican friends. If they’re crazy, I&#8217;ll tell you that it’s like a fox.</p>
<p>By maintaining a high profile in the GOP, Log Cabin Republicans are doing two things. In the first place, they are using considerable moneyed donations to support candidates in the GOP who avoid anti-gay demagoguery. This year they campaigned hard against Mitt (who flip-flopped from being pro-gay to being a bigot) and in favor of McCain, who is on record being opposed to a pro-discrimination constitutional amendment. This year the Gay foxes won while the Mormon chicks lost.</p>
<p>The second and more important thing that Log Cabin Republicans do is illustrate to the Democratic party that Gays are not just block voters that Democrats are free to keep in the bank and ignore. And frankly, they don’t ignore us and the contrast for Mormons and the GOP should be eye-opening to you. Gay people are a tiny, tiny minority group. Our population is concentrated in urban areas that are Democratic strongholds and even there, we don’t have the raw votes to be a majority in single municipality of any size. Mormons, by contrast, are geographically concentrated and have the ability to make a very serious and immediate political impact this election. And yet the idea that the GOP could lose Utah’s electoral votes this fall is hardly taken seriously by any pundit.</p>
<p>In 2004, Log Cabin Republicans showed their disdain by closing their pocketbooks to the GOP. It wasn’t enough to throw the election, but it did illustrate that their money, time and votes could not be taken for granted. After this primary season, if the Mormons still line up like good chicks and give their electoral votes to the GOP, how can the party do anything but take Mormons for granted now and in the future?</p>
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		<title>Breaking News: Romney Dropping Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hamer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The wires are alive with the story that Romney is dropping out of the race. More as the story develops. See Breitbart, TIME and CNN for the story.  Romney is quoted saying: This is not an easy decision for me. I hate to lose. My family, my friends and our supporters &#8230; many of you right here in this room &#8230; have given a great deal to get me where I have a shot at becoming president. If this were only about me, I would go on. But I entered this race because I love America, and because I love America, I feel I must now stand aside, for our party and for our country]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wires are alive with the story that Romney is dropping out of the race. More as the story develops.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8ULK3JG1&amp;show_article=1">Breitbart</a>, <a href="http://thepage.time.com/2008/02/07/sources-romney-to-quit-race/">TIME</a> and <a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/07/gop-sources-mitt-romney-to-suspend-presidential-campaign/">CNN</a> for the story.  Romney is quoted saying:</p>
<blockquote><p>This is not an easy decision for me. I hate to lose. My family, my friends and our supporters &#8230; many of you right here in this room &#8230; have given a great deal to get me where I have a shot at becoming president. If this were only about me, I would go on. But I entered this race because I love America, and because I love America, I feel I must now stand aside, for our party and for our country</p></blockquote>
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		<title>9 Mormons Who Ran for President</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hamer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[During this campaign season I&#8217;ve been helping Newell Bringhurst and Craig Foster edit their forthcoming book, The Mormon Quest for the Presidency. The book tells the fascinating story of 9 Mormons who ran for president prior to Mitt Romney&#8217;s bid and I thought I&#8217;d briefly share their stories while Mitt&#8217;s fate is being decided today&#8230; 1844 Joseph Smith Jr. (no party) — In an era when the separation of church and state were still absolute, Smith was the first clergyman to run for president. As such, he did not emphasize his role as a prophet or as president of the Mormon church. Instead, he campaigned as &#8220;General Joseph Smith&#8221; (of the Nauvoo Legion of the Illinois militia). Smith organized the Council of Fifty whose chief goal was to campaign to get him elected president. The Fifty ratified Smith&#8217;s choice of Sidney Rigdon for Vice President, and then spread out across the country campaigning for the Smith-Rigdon ticket. Smith&#8217;s positions were expressed in a widely distributed pamphlet entitled &#8220;General Smith&#8217;s Views of the Powers and Policy of the Government of the United States.&#8221; Dominating the day was the question of Texas annexation, which Smith favored. This was a very popular position in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img align="right" width="239" src="http://www.johnwhitmerbooks.com/books/bookcovers/Book_MQP.jpg" height="335" />During this campaign season I&#8217;ve been helping Newell Bringhurst and Craig Foster edit their forthcoming book, <em><a href="http://www.johnwhitmerbooks.com/books/details_MQP.asp" title="The Mormon Quest for the Presidency">The Mormon Quest for the Presidency.</a></em> The book tells the fascinating story of 9 Mormons who ran for president prior to Mitt Romney&#8217;s bid and I thought I&#8217;d briefly share their stories while Mitt&#8217;s fate is being decided today&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>1844 Joseph Smith Jr. (no party)</strong> — In an era when the separation of church and state were still absolute, Smith was the first clergyman to run for president. As such, he did not emphasize his role as a prophet or as president of the Mormon church. Instead, he campaigned as &#8220;General Joseph Smith&#8221; (of the Nauvoo Legion of the Illinois militia). Smith organized the Council of Fifty whose chief goal was to campaign to get him elected president. The Fifty ratified Smith&#8217;s choice of Sidney Rigdon for Vice President, and then spread out across the country campaigning for the Smith-Rigdon ticket. Smith&#8217;s positions were expressed in a widely distributed pamphlet entitled &#8220;General Smith&#8217;s Views of the Powers and Policy of the Government of the United States.&#8221; Dominating the day was the question of Texas annexation, which Smith favored. This was a very popular position in the western states which were interested in expansion and cheap land. People in the eastern states viewed the question more soberly because annexation meant an unprovoked war with Mexico. <span id="more-135"></span>The leading contenders for the Democratic and Whig party nominations were Martin Van Buren and Henry Clay, both of whom came out against annexation. Smith&#8217;s initial, quixotic hope was to capture enough of the pro-expansion vote to prevent a clear winner in the Electoral College, throwing the choice to the House of Representatives, where he planned to bargain as John Quincy Adams and Henry Clay had done in 1824. The Democrats&#8217; surprise nomination of James K. Polk and their adoption of a pro-expansionist ticket upset those plans and ultimately resulted in their victory that year. Meanwhile in June of 1844, Smith himself became the first US presidential candidate ever to be assassinated while most of the Fifty were still out on the campaign trail.</p>
<p>3 MAJOR PARTY RUNS</p>
<p><strong>1968 George W. Romney (Republican)</strong> — Born in the Mormon polygamist colonies in Mexico, Mitt Romney&#8217;s father had been president of American Motors and had become the popular governor of Michigan. Romney was a liberal Republican who eliminated the state&#8217;s massive budget deficit by imposing the state&#8217;s first income tax. For the 1968 election, Romney was initially the leading choice for the Rockefeller wing of the Republican party and he quickly emerged as the party&#8217;s frontrunner. However, Romney&#8217;s muddled position on the Vietnam War (he was for it before he became unclear about it and then ultimately came out against it) became unpopular among Republicans and Romney dropped out before the primaries, leaving the nomination to Richard Nixon. <em>The Mormon Question:</em> Because Romney was a vocal supporter of civil rights for blacks in the face of the LDS church&#8217;s active political opposition, he was viewed as an independent thinker.  These circumstances neutralized the question of whether Romney would be &#8220;taking orders&#8221; from Salt Lake, and his Mormon identity did not have a major impact on his candidacy.</p>
<p><strong>1976 Morris K. &#8220;Mo&#8221; Udall (Democrat) </strong>— Born to one of Arizona&#8217;s prominent political families, Mo Udall was raised LDS but broke with the church over the question of race policies. Udall was a prominent member of Congress who had been a House whip behind the enactment of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the 1965 Voting Rights Act, Medicare, and the Campaign Finance Reform Acts of 1971 and 1974. Udall had been an outspoken opponent of the Vietnam War. With the weakness of Gerald Ford and the post-Watergate GOP, the Democratic field was full in 1976. Gov. Jimmy Carter emerged as a surprise early frontrunner, but Udall hung on through the primary season as other more prominent rivals dropped out. A couple of close losses for Udall in Wisconsin and Michigan sealed the nomination for Carter who went on to win the presidency. <em>The Mormon Question:</em> Udall&#8217;s status as a lapsed Mormon had little effect on the campaign.</p>
<p><strong>2000 Orrin G. Hatch (Republican)</strong> — Although raised in a working class family in Pittsburgh and pro-union in his early years, Hatch converted to hardcore Republicanism and pulled off a surprise victory in 1977 race for Sentator from Utah. By 2000, Hatch saw himself as a moderate conservative with a record of working with Democrats. He threw himself into a large GOP field already dominated by previous GOP president&#8217;s son, George W. Bush. Hatch&#8217;s rationale was that he would serve as a &#8220;kind of election insurance policy,&#8221; should Bush&#8217;s campaign collapse for any reason. Unfortunately for Hatch, Republican voters preferred other brands of insurance, leaving him last in both fund-raising and caucus votes. <em>The Mormon Question:</em> Hatch&#8217;s long-shot campaign itself invoked the Mormon question as nearly all of Hatch&#8217;s fundraising came from LDS members and Hatch openly called upon Iowa Mormons to caucus for him. Hatch then blamed anti-Mormon bigotry for his dismal showing.</p>
<p>5 MINOR PARTY RUNS</p>
<p><strong>1920 Parley P. Christiansen (Farmer-Labor)</strong> — A lapsed Mormon raised in Idaho, Christensen was an activist in the labor movement who hoped to reactivate the progressive impulse that had led to a number of reforms in the early 20th century. He received over 265,000 votes and Farmer-Labor party became a player in places like Washington state and Minnesota. (In Minnesota it eventually merged with the Democratic party, which is why Minnesota Democrats are known as DFLers.)</p>
<p><strong>1968 Ezra Taft Benson (American Independent)</strong> — The most politically active member of the LDS hierarchy in the later 20th century, Benson was Secretary of Agriculture under Eisenhower, where he became known for taking opposition to Communism to the point of obsession. The John Birch Society and the &#8220;Committee of 76&#8243; worked to create a third party ticket of Benson for President and outspoken segregationist Strom Thurmond for VP. Later, when George Wallace emerged as the Presidential candidate for the segregationist American Independent party ticket, Wallace indicated that Benson was his first choice for VP. David O. McKay was persuaded to deny Benson permission to run on either ticket.</p>
<p><strong>1968 Eldridge Cleaver (Peace and Freedom)</strong> — Prior to joining the Mormon church, Eldridge Cleaver was a radical left-wing activist in the black power movement. If elected president, he promised to burn the White House down. By the 1980s, Cleaver converted to Mormonism and became an ardent right-wing Republican.</p>
<p><strong>1984 Sonia Johnson (Citizens)</strong> — Feminist activist and former chair of Mormons for ERA, Sonia Johnson had been excommunicated in 1979. In 1984 she continued to promote gender equality by running on the left-wing pro-environment Citizens party ticket and was simultaneously endorsed by the Socialist Party USA and the Peace and Freedom party.</p>
<p><strong>1992 James G. &#8220;Bo&#8221; Gritz (Populist)</strong> — Bo Gritz was a convert to the LDS church, a conspiracy theorist and a white supremacist. The right-wing Populist Party had previously run KKK leader David Duke in its campaign to roll back perceived preferential treatment for non-whites. After his 1992 campaign, Gritz was subsequently disfellowshipped by the LDS church for his vocal advocacy against paying Federal income tax.</p>
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		<title>Why I Voted for Mitt in Today&#8217;s Michigan Primary</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hamer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just got back from my neighborhood polling place, where I voted for Mitt Romney in the Michigan primary. Let me tell you why&#8230; Mitt Romney is a terribly weak candidate. He comes off as a phony, primarily because he is a phony. The charge of being a &#8220;flip-flopper&#8221; has stuck to him (because it&#8217;s true) and Romney&#8217;s counter message — that he&#8217;s legitimately changed his mind and become a true believer in regressionism — has gone no where because it&#8217;s not genuine. Ultimately, even if Romney eventually is the last man standing in the Republican primary season and becomes the nominee, he will not have the support of the core voters in the GOP coalition: fundamentalist Christianists. Christianists know &#8220;Mormonism is a cult&#8221; like they know that &#8220;the fossil record is explained by the Flood.&#8221; Although Romney would still be able to count on some in this group — hard-core racists if Obama is the Democratic nominee and hard-core Clinton-haters if Clinton is — a large proportion will stay home come November, rather than vote for a cultist. Meanwhile, Romney is so weak that if he loses Michigan, he&#8217;s probably washed out. The current incarnation of the GOP is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got back from my neighborhood polling place, where I voted for Mitt Romney in the Michigan primary. Let me tell you why&#8230;</p>
<p><img src="http://www.mikemonroeart.com/images/mittentn.jpg" alt="M is for Mitt Romney" align="right" border="0" height="176" width="219" />Mitt Romney is a terribly weak candidate. He comes off as a phony, primarily because he is a phony. The charge of being a &#8220;flip-flopper&#8221; has stuck to him (because it&#8217;s true) and Romney&#8217;s counter message — that he&#8217;s legitimately changed his mind and become a true believer in regressionism — has gone no where because it&#8217;s not genuine.</p>
<p>Ultimately, even if Romney eventually is the last man standing in the Republican primary season and becomes the nominee, he will not have the support of the core voters in the GOP coalition: fundamentalist Christianists. Christianists know &#8220;Mormonism is a cult&#8221; like they know that &#8220;the fossil record is explained by the Flood.&#8221; Although Romney would still be able to count on some in this group — hard-core racists if Obama is the Democratic nominee and hard-core Clinton-haters if Clinton is — a large proportion will stay home come November, rather than vote for a cultist. Meanwhile, Romney is so weak that if he loses Michigan, he&#8217;s probably washed out.<span id="more-71"></span></p>
<p>The current incarnation of the GOP is not a legitimate US party because its policies and positions are absolutely inimical to all of America&#8217;s national interests. As such, the GOP today is anti-America. It is essential for the Republican party to lose control of the presidency this year because it is critical for the US to turn around and head down a different path than the one we are now on. It&#8217;s likewise essential for the GOP to suffer a devastating loss this year so that the forces that currently control it are wiped out. If that happens, a new, legitimate, pro-American incarnation of the GOP can emerge again.</p>
<p>Mike Huckabee is the best candidate to ensure that essential, curative GOP loss come November, but Mitt Romney is a close second.  (Huckabee seems unlikely to win Michigan today and, unlike Romney, he doesn&#8217;t need to win it to stay competitive.)</p>
<p>Meanwhile, having the battle for the GOP nomination continue beyond February 5 also should help the Republican party by further hurting its chances in the general election. It&#8217;s tough medicine, but it&#8217;s essential to cure what ails the party and the US.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why I cast my vote for Mitt. Go Mitt!</p>
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		<title>The Delbert Stapley / George Romney / Negro Letter, and Modern Applications</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A friend just forwarded to me this letter written by LDS Apostle Delbert Stapley to then Michigan Governor George Romney dealing with Negroes, race, the LDS Church, Joseph Smith, civil rights, etc. I know that Delbert Stapley was a very good man &#8212; so I&#8217;m not interested in piling on (now that we all have the benefit of hindsight). My questions are the following: Do you find it interesting that so much importance was placed on exact obedience to the teachings of Joseph Smith by Apostle Stapley? It seems like today we&#8217;re much more willing to discount a past teaching from Joseph Smith if it doesn&#8217;t meet our modern social standards &#8212; but check out how serious he was about following Joseph&#8217;s teachings to the letter &#8212; even teaching that death follows those who dare deviate from Joseph&#8217;s teachings. I also find it interesting that he quotes Joseph Fielding Smith&#8217;s book almost as if it were scripture (as we used to do with Bruce R.&#8217;s Mormon Doctrine). Again &#8212; it seems like we have come so far since then. Nowadays &#8212; if it&#8217;s not in the scriptures, or a very fundamental Mormon/Christian doctrine &#8212; we are much more liberated to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend just forwarded to me <a title="Delbert Stapley on the Negro Question" href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/delbert_stapley.pdf">this letter written by LDS Apostle Delbert Stapley to then Michigan Governor George Romney</a> dealing with Negroes, race, the LDS Church, Joseph Smith, civil rights, etc.</p>
<p>I know that Delbert Stapley was a very good man &#8212; so I&#8217;m not interested in piling on (now that we all have the benefit of hindsight).  My questions are the following:</p>
<ul>
<li>Do you find it interesting that so much importance was placed on exact obedience to the teachings of Joseph Smith by Apostle Stapley?  It seems like today we&#8217;re much more willing to discount a past teaching from Joseph Smith if it doesn&#8217;t meet our modern social standards &#8212; but check out how serious he was about following Joseph&#8217;s teachings to the letter &#8212; even teaching that death follows those who dare deviate from Joseph&#8217;s teachings.<span id="more-50"></span></li>
<li>I also find it interesting that he quotes Joseph Fielding Smith&#8217;s book almost as if it were scripture (as we used to do with Bruce R.&#8217;s <em>Mormon Doctrine)</em>.  Again &#8212; it seems like we have come so far since then.  Nowadays &#8212; if it&#8217;s not in the scriptures, or a very fundamental Mormon/Christian doctrine &#8212; we are much more liberated to believe as we wish.  The church really has come a LONG way in this regard, I feel</li>
<li>George Romney is one of my new Mormon heroes, I think.  That man was clearly ahead of his time, and courageous.  I wonder if he ever caught heat from the brethren for his progressive stances.</li>
<li>Most importantly &#8212; if the church can be so incredibly wrong about a social/political/doctrinal teaching as they were regarding blacks/race/segregation, etc&#8230;..what modern church teachings are we perpetuating that we will look back in 50 years and also feel embarrassed by?  Or are those days behind us?</li>
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<p>This PDF is offered courtesy of <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/daily/24/delbert_stapley.pdf" target="_blank">the Boston Globe</a>.</p>
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		<title>Planet Kolob to Mormons: It&#8217;s not our weird beliefs, it&#8217;s our credibility</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We know there&#8217;s a problem. Here&#8217;s how the bulk of us as Mormons see the problem: SYMPTOMS: Americans have an anti-Mormon bias which manifests itself on the right with Evangelicals who call Mormonism &#8220;non-Christian&#8221; (and who cost Mitt Romney the Iowa Republican Caucus) and on the left with secularists and atheists decrying Mormonism&#8217;s foundational stories as an obvious &#8220;fraud.&#8221; DIAGNOSIS: Mormons are &#8220;persecuted&#8221; by non-Mormons for their &#8220;weird&#8221; beliefs. RECOMMENDED TREATMENT: De-emphasize (or eliminate) weird beliefs. Explain Mormonism using highly-nuanced language, which we (as Mormons) believe will satisfy non-Mormon ears (&#8220;milk before meat&#8221;). We keep going back to the doctor because the symptoms persist. We keep refilling the prescription — and we now seem addicted to the medicine. Unfortunately, that the diagnosis is wrong. Weird beliefs are not causing the symptoms. In the past generation, America generally has become increasingly tolerant of weird beliefs. America is more broadly pluralistic because of the influx of traditional religions that were previously unrepresented in the US (and therefore are filled with unfamiliar, weird beliefs), e.g., Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims, and also because the rise of indigenous weird beliefs: wicca, neo-paganism, American Buddhism and the various New Age ideas. (Is America ready for a neo-pagan president? No, because [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We know there&#8217;s a problem. Here&#8217;s how the bulk of us as Mormons see the problem:</p>
<p>SYMPTOMS: Americans have an anti-Mormon bias which manifests itself on the right with Evangelicals who call Mormonism &#8220;non-Christian&#8221; (and who cost Mitt Romney the Iowa Republican Caucus) and on the left with secularists and atheists decrying Mormonism&#8217;s foundational stories as an obvious &#8220;fraud.&#8221;</p>
<p>DIAGNOSIS: Mormons are &#8220;persecuted&#8221; by non-Mormons for their &#8220;weird&#8221; beliefs.</p>
<p>RECOMMENDED TREATMENT: De-emphasize (or eliminate) weird beliefs. Explain Mormonism using highly-nuanced language, which we (as Mormons) believe will satisfy non-Mormon ears (&#8220;milk before meat&#8221;).</p>
<p>We keep going back to the doctor because the symptoms persist. We keep refilling the prescription — and we now seem addicted to the medicine.<span id="more-40"></span></p>
<p>Unfortunately, that the diagnosis is wrong. Weird beliefs are not causing the symptoms. In the past generation, America generally has become increasingly tolerant of weird beliefs. America is more broadly pluralistic because of the influx of traditional religions that were previously unrepresented in the US (and therefore are filled with unfamiliar, weird beliefs), e.g., Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims, and also because the rise of indigenous weird beliefs: wicca, neo-paganism, American Buddhism and the various New Age ideas. (Is America ready for a neo-pagan president? No, because the masses of neo-pagans are college kids. Is America ready for a Sikh president? No, because most Sikhs are 1st generation immigrants. Is America ready for a Mormon president? Yes. Mo Udall would have beaten Gerald Ford, if he had bested Jimmy Carter in the 1976 Democratic primaries.) My point is that our society is prepared to be more broadly pluralistic than ever before. The primary component of pluralism is tolerance for our neighbor&#8217;s weird beliefs.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s not so-called weird beliefs, what&#8217;s the real cause? I believe the cause of the problem is medicine we keep taking and that the underlying and resulting problem we face is credibility. It&#8217;s the <i>milk before meat</i> approach itself that undermines Mormon credibility. The examples of how this true problem manifests itself are so numerous — even in the past year alone — it&#8217;s hard to pick from among them. Let&#8217;s consider just one of <i>21 Questions Answered About Mormon Faith</i> that the Fox News prepared in conjunction wiht the LDS church&#8217;s PR folks:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Q: Does the Mormon Church believe its followers can become &#8220;gods and goddesses&#8221; after death?</em></p>
<p>A: We believe that the apostle Peter’s biblical reference to partaking of the divine nature and the apostle Paul’s reference to being &#8216;joint heirs with Christ&#8217; reflect the intent that children of God should strive to emulate their Heavenly Father in every way. Throughout the eternities, Mormons believe, they will reverence and worship God the Father and Jesus Christ. The goal is not to equal them or to achieve parity with them but to imitate and someday acquire their perfect goodness, love and other divine attributes.</p></blockquote>
<p>Whachama-come again? This is a hefty dose of the medicine of de-emphasizing weird beliefs when speaking to non-Mormons. Can you argue that this bizarre answer is &#8220;not false&#8221;? Of course! And whenever anyone argues that any one of these medicinal answers is false, apologetic Mormons across the blogosphere will leap into heroic action in the answer&#8217;s defense.</p>
<p><em>And that is the problem!</em> The problem is not whether the medicinal answers can be argued to be &#8220;not-false.&#8221; The problem is that these answers are not open and forthright, and that they thus lack credbility.</p>
<p>The real problem Mormons face is not that we have weirdness. It&#8217;s that we lack credibility.</p>
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		<title>Episode 7 Part 1: The Other &#8220;One True Church&#8221; and the Obama/Mitt Romney Scuttle over Sex Education</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In part 1 of this episode, we discuss: The Pope&#8217;s recent statement that says, &#8220;other Christian communities are either defective or not true churches and Catholicism provides the only true path to salvation.&#8221; The recent Barak Obama / Mitt Romney Scuttle over Sex Education Panelists include: Ann Porter David King Landrith John Crawford Today&#8217;s Moderator: John Dehlin]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In part 1 of this episode, we discuss:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2007/07/10/pope_other_christians_not_true_churches/?p1=MEWell_Pos5" target="_blank">The Pope&#8217;s recent statement that says</a>, &#8220;other Christian communities are either defective or not true churches and Catholicism provides the only true path to salvation.&#8221;</li>
<li>The <a href="http://johndehlin.com/?p=224" target="_blank">recent Barak Obama / Mitt Romney Scuttle over Sex Education</a></li>
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<p>Panelists include:</p>
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<li><a href="http://theculturalhall.com" target="_blank">Ann Porter</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.mormonmentality.org/archives/author/dkl" target="_blank">David King Landrith</a></li>
<li><a href="http://variousstagesofmormondom.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">John Crawford</a></li>
<li>Today&#8217;s Moderator: <a href="http://mormonstories.org" target="_blank">John Dehlin</a></li>
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		<itunes:subtitle>In part 1 of this episode, we discuss:

The Pope&#8217;s recent statement that says, &#8220;other Christian communities are either defective or not true churches and Catholicism provides the only true path to salvation.&#8221;
The recent Barak Obama[...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>In part 1 of this episode, we discuss:

The Pope&#8217;s recent statement that says, &#8220;other Christian communities are either defective or not true churches and Catholicism provides the only true path to salvation.&#8221;
The recent Barak Obama / Mitt Romney Scuttle over Sex Education

Panelists include:

Ann Porter
David King Landrith
John Crawford
Today&#8217;s Moderator: John Dehlin
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		<title>Episode 5: Mormon Feminism, Women, and Claudia Bushman Part 2</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A continuation from Episode 4. Thanks again to Dr. Bushman, Taryn and Rosalynde!!!! And of course, to hear more of (and to purchase!!!) the wonderful music included in the podcast, please check out:  claytonpixton.com and skyepixton.com Enjoy!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/?p=10" target="_blank">continuation from Episode 4.</a></p>
<p>Thanks again to Dr. Bushman, Taryn and Rosalynde!!!!</p>
<p>And of course, to hear more of (and to purchase!!!) the wonderful music included in the podcast, please check out:  <a href="http://www.claytonpixton.com/hymnsanew.html" target="_blank">claytonpixton.com</a> and <a href="http://skyepixton.com/" target="_blank">skyepixton.com</a></p>
<p>Enjoy!</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>A continuation from Episode 4.
Thanks again to Dr. Bushman, Taryn and Rosalynde!!!!
And of course, to hear more of (and to purchase!!!) the wonderful music included in the podcast, please check out:  claytonpixton.com and skyepixton.com
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		<itunes:summary>A continuation from Episode 4.
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		<description><![CDATA[Today we release part 1 of a 2-part conversation reviewing the recent Mormon Stories series on Women in the LDS Church (Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4 and Part 5). This includes a discussion of my introduction, the 3 waves of Feminism in the USA, and a 3 part interview w/ Claudia Bushman. Today&#8217;s brilliant panelists are: Taryn Nelson-Seawright: Taryn lives in the Chicago area with her husband. She is a researcher in the medical social sciences. She is a passionate amateur scholar of the Book of Mormon. In her spare time, she blogs for By Common Consent and, under the pen name Serenity Valley, Latter-Day Saint Liberation Front. Rosalynde Welch: Rosalynde lives in St. Louis, Missouri, with her husband John and her three children. She&#8217;s an independent scholar of early modern English literature and an eclectic assortment of other topics, and she blogs on Mormon issues at timesandseasons.org. Finally, to hear more of (and to purchase!!!) the wonderful music included in the podcast, please check out:  claytonpixton.com and skyepixton.com We hope you enjoy!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today we release part 1 of a 2-part conversation reviewing the recent <a href="http://mormonstories.org" target="_blank">Mormon Stories</a> series on Women in the LDS Church (<a href="http://mormonstories.org/?p=274" target="_blank">Part 1</a>, <a href="http://mormonstories.org/?p=276" target="_blank">Part 2</a>, <a href="http://mormonstories.org/?p=282" target="_blank">Part 3</a>, <a href="http://mormonstories.org/?p=286" target="_blank">Part 4</a> and <a href="http://mormonstories.org/?p=291" target="_blank">Part 5</a>).  This includes a discussion of my introduction, the 3 waves of Feminism in the USA, and a 3 part interview w/ Claudia Bushman.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s brilliant panelists are:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Taryn Nelson-Seawright</strong>: Taryn lives in the Chicago area with her husband.<br />
She is a researcher in the medical social sciences.  She is a passionate<br />
amateur scholar of the Book of Mormon.  In her spare time, she blogs<br />
for <a href="http://bycommonconsent.com" target="_blank">By Common Consent</a> and, under the pen name Serenity Valley, <a href="http://ldsliberationfront.net/" target="_blank">Latter-Day<br />
Saint Liberation Front</a>.</li>
<li><strong> Rosalynde Welch</strong>: Rosalynde lives in St. Louis, Missouri, with her husband John<br />
and her three children. She&#8217;s an independent scholar of early modern<br />
English literature and an eclectic assortment of other topics, and<br />
she blogs on Mormon issues at <a href="http://timesandseasons.org" target="_blank">timesandseasons.org</a>.</li>
</ul>
<p>Finally, to hear more of (and to purchase!!!) the wonderful music included in the podcast, please check out:  <a href="http://www.claytonpixton.com/hymnsanew.html" target="_blank">claytonpixton.com</a> and <a href="http://skyepixton.com/" target="_blank">skyepixton.com</a></p>
<p>We hope you enjoy!!!</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Today we release part 1 of a 2-part conversation reviewing the recent Mormon Stories series on Women in the LDS Church (Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4 and Part 5).  This includes a discussion of my introduction, the 3 waves of Feminism in the USA, a[...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Today we release part 1 of a 2-part conversation reviewing the recent Mormon Stories series on Women in the LDS Church (Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4 and Part 5).  This includes a discussion of my introduction, the 3 waves of Feminism in the USA, and a 3 part interview w/ Claudia Bushman.
Today&#8217;s brilliant panelists are:

Taryn Nelson-Seawright: Taryn lives in the Chicago area with her husband.
She is a researcher in the medical social sciences.  She is a passionate
amateur scholar of the Book of Mormon.  In her spare time, she blogs
for By Common Consent and, under the pen name Serenity Valley, Latter-Day
Saint Liberation Front.
 Rosalynde Welch: Rosalynde lives in St. Louis, Missouri, with her husband John
and her three children. She&#8217;s an independent scholar of early modern
English literature and an eclectic assortment of other topics, and
she blogs on Mormon issues at timesandseasons.org.

Finally, to hear more of (and to purchase!!!) the wonderful music included in the podcast, please check out:  claytonpixton.com and skyepixton.com
We hope you enjoy!!!</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Episode 3: The Mountain Meadows Massacre</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note: Mormon Matters podcast is now available through iTunes.  You can subscribe to the podcast by clicking on the iTunes button at the top right of this site. &#8220;This September marks the 150th anniversary of a terrible episode in the history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. On September 11, 1857, some 50 to 60 local militiamen in southern Utah, aided by American Indian allies, massacred about 120 emigrants who were traveling by wagon to California. The horrific crime, which spared only 17 children age six and under, occurred in a highland valley called the Mountain Meadows, roughly 35 miles southwest of Cedar City. The victims, most of them from Arkansas, were on their way to California with dreams of a bright future.&#8221; In this episode, we discuss the Mountain Meadows Massacre from a variety of angles, including: An overview and analysis of the massacre The recent press release and upcoming Ensign article published by the church The upcoming movie entitled &#8220;September Dawn&#8220; Today, our panelists include: John Hamer is executive director of the John Whitmer Historical Association. John&#8217;s a cultural Mormon and an independent researcher, historian and map-maker. He&#8217;s currently co-editing a book called Scattering of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Note: Mormon Matters podcast is now available through iTunes.  You can subscribe to the podcast by clicking on the iTunes button at the top right of this site.</em></p>
<p>&#8220;This September marks the 150th anniversary of a terrible episode in the history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. On September 11, 1857, some 50 to 60 local militiamen in southern Utah, aided by American Indian allies, massacred about 120 emigrants who were traveling by wagon to California. The horrific crime, which spared only 17 children age six and under, occurred in a highland valley called the Mountain Meadows, roughly 35 miles southwest of Cedar City. The victims, most of them from Arkansas, were on their way to California with dreams of a bright future.&#8221;</p>
<p><a title="3" name="3"></a>In this episode, we discuss the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_Massacre" target="_blank">Mountain Meadows Massacre</a> from a variety of angles, including:</p>
<ul>
<li>An overview and analysis of the massacre</li>
<li>The <a href="http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.b12f9d18fae655bb69095bd3e44916a0/?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=1c234dc029133110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;locale=0" target="_blank">recent press release</a> and upcoming Ensign article published by the church</li>
<li>The upcoming movie entitled &#8220;<a href="http://www.septemberdawn.net/?gclid=CKfD_auD-YwCFQRDYQod8UAq-A" target="_blank">September Dawn</a>&#8220;<span id="more-7"></span></li>
</ul>
<p>Today, our panelists include:</p>
<ul>
<li><font face="Georgia" size="2">John Hamer is executive director of the John  Whitmer Historical Association.  John&#8217;s a cultural Mormon and  an independent researcher, historian and map-maker.  He&#8217;s currently  co-editing a book called <em>Scattering of the Saints: Schism within  Mormonism,</em> due out this September.</font></li>
<li>J. Nelson-Seawright is an assistant professor of political science at a university in the Chicago area and an amateur Mormon Studies enthusiast.  J. writes about Mormon themes online at the website <a href="http://www.bycommonconsent.com/" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" target="_blank"> www.bycommonconsent.com</a> when he is not busy doing the work he&#8217;s actually paid to do.</li>
<li><span name="st">Ann</span> <span name="st">Porter</span> is a software developer and a married mother of three.  She is a convert of over twenty years who has an ambivalent relationship with church history.  She writes for the Mormon themed blog <a href="http://theculturalhall.com" target="_blank">The Cultural Hall</a> and is also guest blogging at Various Stages of Mormondom.</li>
</ul>
<p>And as always, a big thanks to http://skyepixton.com for providing the music to this episode.</p>
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		<itunes:duration>1:11:58</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:subtitle>Note: Mormon Matters podcast is now available through iTunes.  You can subscribe to the podcast by clicking on the iTunes button at the top right of this site.
&#8220;This September marks the 150th anniversary of a terrible episode in the history of[...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Note: Mormon Matters podcast is now available through iTunes.  You can subscribe to the podcast by clicking on the iTunes button at the top right of this site.
&#8220;This September marks the 150th anniversary of a terrible episode in the history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. On September 11, 1857, some 50 to 60 local militiamen in southern Utah, aided by American Indian allies, massacred about 120 emigrants who were traveling by wagon to California. The horrific crime, which spared only 17 children age six and under, occurred in a highland valley called the Mountain Meadows, roughly 35 miles southwest of Cedar City. The victims, most of them from Arkansas, were on their way to California with dreams of a bright future.&#8221;
In this episode, we discuss the Mountain Meadows Massacre from a variety of angles, including:

An overview and analysis of the massacre
The recent press release and upcoming Ensign article published by the church
The upcoming movie entitled &#8220;September Dawn&#8220;

Today, our panelists include:

John Hamer is executive director of the John  Whitmer Historical Association.  John&#8217;s a cultural Mormon and  an independent researcher, historian and map-maker.  He&#8217;s currently  co-editing a book called Scattering of the Saints: Schism within  Mormonism, due out this September.
J. Nelson-Seawright is an assistant professor of political science at a university in the Chicago area and an amateur Mormon Studies enthusiast.  J. writes about Mormon themes online at the website  www.bycommonconsent.com when he is not busy doing the work he&#8217;s actually paid to do.
Ann Porter is a software developer and a married mother of three.  She is a convert of over twenty years who has an ambivalent relationship with church history.  She writes for the Mormon themed blog The Cultural Hall and is also guest blogging at Various Stages of Mormondom.

And as always, a big thanks to http://skyepixton.com for providing the music to this episode.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Episode 2: Mitt Romney, Mormonism and Recent Coverage in the New York Times and on Good Morning America</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2007/06/19/episode-2-mitt-romney-mormonism-and-recent-coverage-in-the-new-york-times-and-on-good-morning-america/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The topic for today is Mitt Romney, Mormonism, and the Recent Coverage in both the New York Times and Good Morning America. We had 3 more EXCELLENT panelists for Mormon Matters podcast. They included: John Fowles: John is a lawyer living in London with his wife and three children. He is interested in Mormonism and Mormon blogs and has participated for several years in Mormon blogging (or bloggernacle). Tom Grover: Tom is a lifetime resident of Cache Valley, producer and co-host of KVNU&#8217;s For the People. Ronan James Head: Ronan is from Malvern, England (home of the Wilford Woodruff missionary sites). He grew up in the church and served a mission to Vienna, Austria, where he now also lives. Ronan is a scholar of the ancient Near East &#8212; currently dissertating &#8212; and a teacher of religious studies. He is married with three kids and recently taught Seminary. He blogs about Mormon stuff at the mighty bycommonconsent.com. Please check out the podcast and let us know what you think. Also, as always, please tell your friends about us, and don&#8217;t forget to thank Skye Pixton for letting us use her wonderful music.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The topic for today is Mitt Romney, Mormonism, and the Recent Coverage in both the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/11/us/politics/11mormons.html" target="_blank">New York Times</a> and <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3293104" target="_blank">Good Morning America</a>.</p>
<p>We had 3 more EXCELLENT panelists for Mormon Matters podcast.  They included:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>John Fowles</strong>: John is a lawyer living in London with his wife and three children.  He is interested in Mormonism and <a href="http://www.mormonmentality.org/archives/author/john-f" target="_blank">Mormon blogs</a> and has participated for several years in Mormon blogging (or bloggernacle).</li>
<li><strong>Tom Grover</strong>: Tom is a lifetime resident of Cache Valley, producer and co-host of <a href="http://www.kvnuforthepeople.com/" target="_blank">KVNU&#8217;s For the People</a>.</li>
<li><strong>Ronan James Head</strong>: Ronan is from Malvern, England (home of the Wilford Woodruff missionary sites). He grew up in the church and served a mission to Vienna, Austria, where he now also lives. Ronan is a scholar of the ancient Near East &#8212; currently dissertating &#8212; and a teacher of religious studies. He is married with three kids and recently taught Seminary. He blogs about Mormon stuff at the mighty<a href="http://bycommonconsent.com/" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" target="_blank"> bycommonconsent.com</a>.</li>
</ul>
<p>Please check out the podcast and let us know what you think.</p>
<p>Also, as always, please tell your friends about us, and don&#8217;t forget to thank <a href="http://skyepixton.com" target="_blank">Skye Pixton</a> for letting us use her wonderful music.</p>
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		<itunes:duration>1:10:35</itunes:duration>
		<itunes:subtitle>The topic for today is Mitt Romney, Mormonism, and the Recent Coverage in both the New York Times and Good Morning America.
We had 3 more EXCELLENT panelists for Mormon Matters podcast.  They included:

John Fowles: John is a lawyer living in London[...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>The topic for today is Mitt Romney, Mormonism, and the Recent Coverage in both the New York Times and Good Morning America.
We had 3 more EXCELLENT panelists for Mormon Matters podcast.  They included:

John Fowles: John is a lawyer living in London with his wife and three children.  He is interested in Mormonism and Mormon blogs and has participated for several years in Mormon blogging (or bloggernacle).
Tom Grover: Tom is a lifetime resident of Cache Valley, producer and co-host of KVNU&#8217;s For the People.
Ronan James Head: Ronan is from Malvern, England (home of the Wilford Woodruff missionary sites). He grew up in the church and served a mission to Vienna, Austria, where he now also lives. Ronan is a scholar of the ancient Near East &#8212; currently dissertating &#8212; and a teacher of religious studies. He is married with three kids and recently taught Seminary. He blogs about Mormon stuff at the mighty bycommonconsent.com.

Please check out the podcast and let us know what you think.
Also, as always, please tell your friends about us, and don&#8217;t forget to thank Skye Pixton for letting us use her wonderful music.</itunes:summary>
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