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		<title>The Dullness of Complaining that LDS Church Meetings are Dull: A Rebuttal</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently read a piece by Jana Riess on Beliefnet.com “Why Are Mormon Church Meetings So Dull?”. I intended to write an extensive rebuttal on her piece because, frankly, I don’t agree with it. It’s not that I disagree with everything she wrote, it is the implications of some of her points I have a problem with.  And, in a point I think is extremely critical to discuss: Is the meeting itself dull or the people who attend it making it dull for themselves? So, rather than a point by point rebuttal, I offer up a few of my own observations. We now live in an over-stimulated society. First, there were those of us who grew up with Television. We could sit and watch the box for long periods of time. But TV didn’t take the place of reading books and newspapers, playing outside and doing other activities. Second, came the MTV generation. Music became visual and news went 24 hours a day. This began the gradual decline of other sedentary activities such as reading, playing board games, puzzles and just sitting.  Parents heard more and more from their children, “I’m bored.” Outside activities were also beginning to wane and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently read a piece by Jana Riess on Beliefnet.com <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/flunkingsainthood/2010/07/five-reasons-why-mormon-church-meetings-are-the-dullest-youll-find-anywhere.html">“Why Are Mormon Church Meetings So Dull?”</a>. I intended to write an extensive rebuttal on her piece because, frankly, I don’t agree with it.</p>
<p>It’s not that I disagree with everything she wrote, it is the implications of some of her points I have a problem with.  And, in a point I think is extremely critical to discuss: Is the meeting itself dull or the people who attend it making it dull for themselves?</p>
<p>So, rather than a point by point rebuttal, I offer up a few of my own observations.</p>
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<p>We now live in an over-stimulated society. First, there were those of us who grew up with Television. We could sit and watch the box for long periods of time. But TV didn’t take the place of reading books and newspapers, playing outside and doing other activities. Second, came the MTV generation. Music became visual and news went 24 hours a day. This began the gradual decline of other sedentary activities such as reading, playing board games, puzzles and just sitting.  Parents heard more and more from their children, “I’m bored.” Outside activities were also beginning to wane and obese children and adults are now more common.</p>
<p>Then, we ushered in the Internet, cell phones, video games, and VCRs. This just compounded the problems I noted above. Unsuspecting parents were turning their children and themselves into couch potatoes and anything less than flashing lights and extreme movement was just plain dull.  And, finally, we are now at the Text/Twitter generation, where anything less than instantaneous everything is slow. Where folks, especially young people cannot be away from their mobile device for a second less they miss an important “k” or some other cryptic message. In fact, most sleep with their devices and the thought of turning it off for any period of time, like a 70 minute church meeting is unheard of.</p>
<p>We expect to be entertained 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. In fact, many Church Services have become more like a show than a worship service. Even the Catholic Church has modified its mass to try to accommodate this trend. And many so-called mega-churches, loud bands, modern music, loud preachers and a loud congregation have been the norm for the folks who even bother to go. And they dress as though they are going to see Miley Cyrus rather than worship God and Jesus. The idea is we’d rather have them here at Church, such as it is, then sitting at home just drinking beer and watching football on Sundays.</p>
<p>The LDS Church has not succumbed to these trends and its worship service, the Sacrament Meeting has largely remained unchanged for many years. In Ms. Riess’ assertion that “we no longer expect spiritual manifestations,” she confuses a massive outpouring of the Spirit like that experienced at the dedication of the Kirtland Temple with the manner in which the Prophet Joseph always taught about how we generally commune and hear from God, by and through the still small voice.  She seems to assert that Latter-day Saints outside the US are having dramatic manifestations of the spirit while American Saints do not. Yet, I have attended a number of Sacrament meetings outside the US and it always seemed like a normal Sacrament Meeting to me.  No angels appeared, one writhed on the floor, spoke in a strange language or danced with snakes while I was there.</p>
<p>Yet, I have heard members say and I have often felt the presence of the Spirit at countless Sacrament Meetings, so I am not sure what she is talking about when she says, “we don’t truly expect God to show up” at our meetings. It is one of those things that people often pray for at the beginning and end of our meetings.</p>
<p>It is incredibly important to know why we are there at those meetings. We are at Sacrament Meeting to worship our Heavenly Father and His Son and partake of the Sacrament. That’s it.  That is why we are there. The talks and business conducted are secondary to that purpose. So, I probably agree with Ms. Riess that that purpose needs to be reinforced with members, as do the purpose and manner of talks as well.</p>
<p>For the most part, I love the music of Zion. Ms. Riess thinks it is “funereal.” And, it can be. But I also notice that many people in the congregation cannot be bothered to sing the hymns. They chat, stare off into space or have to deal with fussy children (a legitimate excuse, in my book).  With more people singing, the music would be better.</p>
<p>The final point I’d like to address are the talks.  She says, “Our talks suck.” Again, it is a matter of perspective. We know that most of our folks are NOT professional public speakers. They are moms and dads, many of whom have other full time jobs and responsibilities. So, they sometimes struggle to find the time to properly prepare talks for Sunday. That is no excuse. For the once in a while opportunity to teach the congregation, more time and effort could be made, for sure. But, we need to cut these folks some slack. Even so-called professional clergy can be just as bad and dull as any LDS member giving a talk. These are our Brother and Sisters. I think we can forgive them their speaking inadequacies and learn to hear the message rather than the delivery of the messenger.</p>
<p>In conclusion, any meeting or activity that is not well understood can be perceived as dull and boring. If I took many of you to a Jewish Sabbath day service, with its three-hour rote liturgy, all spoken in Hebrew, you might think that is dull, not having a clue what is going on, what is being said and the purposes behind it. Most Jewish services have little music, no screaming or yelling and the entertainment value is low. But, the devotion, respect and worship are there.</p>
<p>And that is the same way I feel about Our LDS Sacrament Service.</p>
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		<title>After Action Report: The Community of Christ Did WHAT?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Headline in the Independence Examiner for Thursday, April 15, 2010: &#8220;Delegation Takes No Action on Human Sexuality Issues: Church Will Continue Dialogue.&#8221; Headline  by John Hamer on BCC on Thursday, April 15, 2010: &#8220;Gay Rights Revelation Added to The Community of Christ D&#38;C&#8221; &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- The two headlines above generally cover the spectrum of opinion about what happened at the Community of Christ World Conference as it completed the process of canonization of a new Section 164 for its D&#38;C. The spectrum of opinions about whether what happened was a good thing or bad thing, of course, runs even more broadly. Indeed, I’m not at all certain that we’ll even be able to see how intense the various “colors” of that spectrum will prove until information about the conference filters down to the bulk of the North American church that maintains no real connection to the World Church in the &#8220;Blogitorium&#8221;. As in many churches on the Christian left in North America, that membership tends to be somewhat more traditionalist than its leadership. Nevertheless, I’ll give my view as someone from one part of the peanut gallery, focusing on what was in each portion of Section 164 and the effects of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Headline in the <em>Independence</em><em> Examiner </em>for Thursday, April 15, 2010:</p>
<p><strong><em>&#8220;Delegation Takes No Action on Human Sexuality Issues: Church Will Continue Dialogue.&#8221;</em></strong></p>
<p>Headline  <a href="http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/04/15/gay-rights-revelation-added-to-dc-world-conference-part-2-april-12%e2%80%9315/">by John Hamer on BCC </a> on Thursday, April 15, 2010:</p>
<p><strong><em>&#8220;Gay Rights Revelation Added to The Community of Christ D&amp;C&#8221;</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</em></strong></p>
<p>The two headlines above generally cover the spectrum of opinion about what happened at the Community of Christ World Conference as it completed the <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/01/05/canonizing-modern-revelation-a-tourist-guide/"> process of canonization</a> of a <a href="http://cofchrist.org/dc164/"> new Section 164</a> for its D&amp;C. The spectrum of opinions about whether what happened was a good thing or bad thing, of course, runs even more broadly. Indeed, I’m not at all certain that we’ll even be able to see how intense the various “colors” of that spectrum will prove until information about the conference filters down to the bulk of the North American church that maintains no real connection to the World Church <a href="http://saintsherald.com/2010/04/13/world-conference-in-the-blogosphere/"> in the &#8220;Blogitorium&#8221;</a>. As in many churches on the Christian left in North America, that membership tends to be somewhat more traditionalist than its leadership.<span id="more-10678"></span></p>
<p>Nevertheless, I’ll give my view as someone from one part of the peanut gallery, focusing on what was in each portion of Section 164 and the effects of associated legislation passed to begin implementation. A future post will provide a similar analysis on legislation considered by the Conference not specifically addressed by Section 164 and suggest something about the overall direction of the Community of Christ in the future.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline">SECTION 164, PARAGRAPHS 1-4</span></strong></p>
<p>President Veazey describes the experiences of meditation, particularly on portions of Galatians 3:27-29, that led him to offer the Section. After commending the church for similarly seeking to discern the Spirit in a structured process that has been going on for well over a year, he makes explicit an understanding of the church and its sacraments which has been implicit in CofChrist theology for a number of years.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;Instruction given previously about baptism was proper to ensure the rise and cohesiveness of the church during its early development and in following years. However, as a growing number have come to understand, the redemptive action of God in Christ—while uniquely and authoritatively expressed through the church—is not confined solely to the church. God’s grace, revealed in Jesus Christ, freely moves throughout creation, often beyond human perception, to achieve divine purposes in people’s lives.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The Community of Christ is to see itself as “one true church”, not as the “one <em><span style="text-decoration: underline">and only</span></em> true church”. How serious is this theological intent was earlier signaled by something I haven’t seen commentators note elsewhere. The first sessions of Conference always feature certain speeches of welcome. One is usually a non-CofChrist speaker. This speaker is often a local Congressman or a Missouri Senator. The speech is strictly non-political even then, but the identity is interesting because trends over time seem to show the direction of the church leadership’s interest.</p>
<p>This year that slot went to the Rev. Dr. Michael Kinnamon, General Secretary of the National Council of Churches. Kinnamon unabashedly spoke of the Community of Christ having unique gifts that should be seen as adding to bodies such as the NCC, rather than as a body going its own way. Ironically, contacts between the RLDS and the NCC were among the suspicions cited by fundamentalist opponents of the church circa 1970 as evidence of apostasy. Thus, such a speech 40 years ago might itself have been too controversial to occur.</p>
<p>Section 164 then lays out specific instruction (that will be followed quickly by formal administrative policy <a href="http://www.cofchrist.org/wc2010/counsel/QA3.asp"> guidance</a> to become effective by September 1, 2011). These policies will result in acceptance into membership into the Community of Christ upon confirmation by CofChrist priesthood – without requiring rebaptism if the original baptism: a) involved water;  b) was performed by an ordained Christian minister;  and c) as a personal expression of faith in Christ. In particular, we will not require someone to present proof of their baptism <em>or the baptizing minister’s credentials</em>, since that would be impossible in many places throughout the world. This clearly expands the notion of <em>true priesthood authority</em> beyond the boundaries of those called through the priesthood line passed to Joseph Smith.</p>
<p>The phrase “using water” also allows for baptisms done by immersion, pouring, or sprinkling, while upholding the church’s own standard practice of baptism by immersion at the age of accountability. There is also some additional specific guidance regarding the substance of the prayer of confirmation (Baptism of the Spirit) that is now the means by which one moves from being part of the Body of Christ into membership within the denomination. And preparation for confirmation will now be a formal requirement for the ordinance to occur.</p>
<p>Paragraph 3 contains a call for all members to serious consider and live the meaning of their baptismal covenants (water and Spirit). Paragraph 4 ties this call to consideration of the role the sacrament of the Lord’s Supper should play in renewing, witnessing, and amplifying our covenant. (Portions of the preamble specifically warn us to NOT make the meaning of the covenants atrophy even as we broaden the procedures, because of the concern that in some places this has happened with open communion).</p>
<p>This portion of the Section makes the Community of Christ look very Protestant – if you can call becoming more Protestant through modern revelation a Protestant concept in the first place.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline">SECTION 164, PARAGRAPHS 5-7</span></strong></p>
<p>These are the paragraphs whose approval generated the widely divergent headlines above. Their actual content is to call attention to “serious questions about moral behavior and relationships” – but to prioritize those questions not simply as they are listed within the dominant culture of the denomination.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“These issues are complex and difficult to understand outside their particular settings because of strikingly different cultural histories, customs, and understandings of scripture. For example, the issues include female submission, female genital mutilation, child brides, forced marriages, and sexual permissiveness. They include cleansing and exploitation of widows, harsh conflicts over same-gender attraction and relationships, and varying legal, religious, and social definitions of marriage, to name just a few.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>More importantly, the Section calls us to see the solutions for these moral dilemmas as arising from an understanding of Christianity as a community that transcends definitions by economic status, social class, sex, gender, or ethnicity. They simply are no longer primary. Relationships are to be rooted in the principles of Christ-like love, mutual respect, responsibility, justice, covenant, and faithfulness, <em>against which there is no law.</em></p>
<p>Section 164 then extrapolates that these principles require that the church move the resolution of moral issues to the church in the cultures most affected by them rather than let the dominant North American church decide for the rest of the world. Field Apostles, under the guidance of the Presidency, are authorized to call and set the agenda for field, national, or (non-geographical) cultural groups to deal with issues such as those listed above as they feel directed.</p>
<p>Uncertainty about the nature and timing of these conferences is generating the widely divergent headlines about gay rights. First, everyone in the Community of Christ seems to understand that the leadership feels that it must not expose our leaders and members in cultures where discussion of gay issues is taboo. If so, they can hardly move toward expanded gay rights in the United States unless they can find a way to maintain what the government would call “plausible deniability&#8221;.</p>
<p>Second, there is a large body of conservative members in the US church (and non-members in society) whose reaction must be anticipated and allowed for. The LDS experience with Prop 8 shows what happens when the church in the US takes any position on controversial issues in the political arena. Many feel the church has moved too hesitantly and will continue to do so; others are likely to feel the church is moving in the wrong direction entirely.</p>
<p>Finally, there are logistical questions. It seems unlikely that the US church has the resources to assemble a national conference on gay rights issues before the spring of 2012 at the earliest. It will take until September, 2011, simply to implement the new conditions for membership.</p>
<p>The greatest sign of movement toward gay rights comes from something in administrative minutia. It is normal for the church to realign Apostolic Fields following a World Conference (our Apostles retire, so there are usually changes in the Twelve). This time a gerrymandered field has been carved out for Apostle Susan Skoor that stretches from Southern Australia to Eastern  Canada – and just happens to cover all of the non-US jurisdictions that proposed World Conference legislation expanding full priesthood and sacramental rites for gays. The extension of rights in that Field or in nations within that Field <em>might be granted</em> while maintaining sufficient distance from the World Church (and prying media) to protect the church in cultures hostile to gay rights.</p>
<p>Expansion to the US is much more difficult to do while maintaining any credibility to foreign governments and religious bodies that “this is just local jurisdictions acting on their own.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps more significantly in the long run than the particular moral issues – at least from the perspective of this Washington spectator – is the change these paragraphs make in the legislative rights of mission centers to set the agenda for the church. The Presidency immediately ruled 21 legislative proposals that had been painstakingly brought to the conference as out of order because they reflect National or Regional concerns. These rulings were entirely appropriate under Section 164 guidance.</p>
<p>However, the Conference later passed implementing legislation for the field and national conferences that make them “special conferences”. Such conferences operate under different parliamentary rules than World Conference. In particular,  Mission Centers lack the right to place items on the agenda of special conferences; that agenda is set <em>only</em> by the Apostle who calls the conference with the approval of the Presidency. In short, this revelation makes the Community of Christ less democratic and more theocratic than it was a year ago.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline">SECTION 164, PARAGRAPH 8</span></strong></p>
<p>Paragraph 8, by contrast, shows the flexibility and speed with which the Community of Christ can move on organizational issues when it wishes to do so. The Twelve and the Presidents of the Seven Quorums of Seventy have been meeting for several years in response to the immediately previous revelation (Section 163) to consider organizational changes to increase evangelistic effectiveness. Paragraph 8 is taken as authorization to make these changes.</p>
<p>Within 24 hours of Section 164 approval, the number of Quorums of Seventy was increased from seven to ten, the additional Quorum Presidents were named, and they were approved by the Conference and set apart to that calling. Jack Bauer couldn&#8217;t have moved faster. Clearly, the outcome of these discussions among the leading quorums was well prepared in advance, while they are still feeling their way around the notion of how and when national conferences will function.</p>
<p>Reorganization of the Twelve, while not fundamental, essentially separates the world into 10 Fields for the moment, each led by an Apostle, with the remaining two Apostles focusing on Headquarters-oriented tasks. For the first time, a single Quorum of Seventy will be aligned with the geographic or other missionary focus of a Field Apostle.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline">SECTION 164, PARAGRAPH 9</span></strong></p>
<p>The final paragraph of the document is a benediction of sorts, and a challenge that the rise of Zion is no farther away than the willingness of all of us – all the “beloved children of the Restoration” – to overcome our insecurities and embrace a Christ-like life.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;The mission of Jesus Christ is what matters most to the journet ahead.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Spector</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Have they not read the scriptures, which say ye must take upon you the name of Christ, which is my name? For by this name shall ye be called at the last day; And whoso taketh upon him my name, and endureth to the end, the same shall be saved at the last day.” (3 Nephi 27:5-6) At baptism, we covenant to take upon ourselves the name of Jesus Christ.  Taking the name of Jesus Christ means you “always remember him and keep his commandments which he has given them.” (D&#38;C 20:77; Moro. 4:3.) If we are truly born again, we become His Sons and His Daughters and taking upon His name has even more significance. (Mosiah 27:25) This is a universal Christian principle, not exclusive to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The Apostle Paul wrote “For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.” (Gal 3:27) Peter reinforced the idea that “neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” (Acts 4:12) And while the Church teaches that salvation and exaltation come in and through the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Have they not read the scriptures, which say ye must take upon you the name of Christ, which is my name? For by this name shall ye be called at the last day; <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/christ.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-10498" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/christ.jpg" alt="" width="109" height="117" /></a>And whoso taketh upon him my name, and endureth to the end, the same shall be saved at the last day.” (3 Nephi 27:5-6)</p>
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<p>At baptism, we covenant to take upon ourselves the name of Jesus Christ.  Taking the name of Jesus Christ means you “always remember him and keep his commandments which he has given them.” (D&amp;C 20:77; Moro. 4:3.) If we are truly born again, we become His Sons and His Daughters and taking upon His name has even more significance. (Mosiah 27:25)</p>
<p>This is a universal Christian principle, not exclusive to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The Apostle Paul wrote “For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.” (Gal 3:27) Peter reinforced the idea that “neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” (Acts 4:12)</p>
<p>And while the Church teaches that salvation and exaltation come in and through the Lord’s true church, even the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, one can make the case that taking on the name of Jesus Christ and belonging to the LDS Church can be independent of one another. You will not find that taught in the Church, but certainly, there are many, many non-LDS Christians who are deeply committed to the Savior, follow His example and keep His commandments as best they can.</p>
<p>So, what of those who reject His Gospel, whether as members of LDS Church or not? While most Christian denominations believe in the principle of “once saved, always saved,” the LDS Church does not teach this principle.  Through sin, unbelief or rejection, one can lose their place in heaven.</p>
<p>So, for those who have left the Church, forsaken the covenants made at Baptism and through partaking of the sacrament, have they, in fact, given back His name?</p>
<p>And, does it matter?</p>
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		<title>The Seder, Social Justice, and Leroy Jessop</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bored in Vernal</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[OT SS Lesson #13 At a Passover Seder this week, President Barack Obama&#8217;s message to American Jews focused on social justice. Obama said that the message of the Exodus teaches of oppression to be fought and freedom to be won, and that we all have a responsibility to fight against suffering and discrimination wherever we find it. Some Jewish journalists discussing the remarks saw them as a veiled reprimand against Israeli settlements in Palestinian territory. Others heartily agreed that Jews should be particularly sensitive to oppression. The American Prospect&#8217;s Adam Serwer enthused: &#8220;I&#8217;ve viewed Passover as an opportunity not just to reflect on the historical oppression of my own people but on the suffering of others in the present day&#8230; Passover doesn&#8217;t exist merely for Jews to congratulate ourselves on our continued existence &#8212; although that is no mean feat. The reminder that we were once slaves in Egypt is meant to make us consider contemporary questions of justice&#8230; If you&#8217;re unable to take away from Passover an understanding of your own role as a Jew in fighting the injustice done to other people who do not also happen to be Jewish, the experience is meaningless.&#8221; It could be that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-7683" title="Avatar-BiV" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51-150x150.jpg" alt="Avatar-BiV" width="80" height="80" /></a><big><strong>OT SS Lesson #13</strong></big></p>
<p>At a <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/us/politics/28seder.html">Passover Seder</a> this week, President Barack Obama&#8217;s message to American Jews focused on social justice.  Obama said that the message of the Exodus teaches of oppression to be fought and freedom to be won, and that we all have a responsibility to fight against suffering and discrimination wherever we find it.  Some Jewish journalists discussing the remarks saw them as a veiled reprimand against Israeli settlements in Palestinian territory.  Others heartily agreed that Jews should be particularly sensitive to oppression.  The American Prospect&#8217;s <a href="http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=03&amp;year=2010&amp;base_name=wingnuts_across_the_ocean">Adam Serwer</a> enthused:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve viewed Passover as an opportunity not just to reflect on the historical oppression of my own people but on the suffering of others in the present day&#8230; Passover doesn&#8217;t exist merely for Jews to congratulate ourselves on our continued existence &#8212; although that is no mean feat. The reminder that we were once slaves in Egypt is meant to make us consider contemporary questions of justice&#8230;  If you&#8217;re unable to take away from Passover an understanding of your own role as a Jew in fighting the injustice done to other people who do not also happen to be Jewish, the experience is meaningless.&#8221;<span id="more-10226"></span></p></blockquote>
<p>It could be that the symbolic elements of the Jewish Passover are more meaningful to Mormons than to any religious group outside the Jews themselves.  We recognize the emblems of the Seder to be representative of the Messiah who came in the incarnation of Jesus Christ.  The <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=8ff3c106dac20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;vgnextoid=198bf4b13819d110VgnVCM1000003a94610aRCRD">lesson material</a> includes several connections between descriptions of the Passover in the Old Testament and Jesus Christ.  It was during a Passover seder that Jesus proclaimed that the meal represented Himself and that He was instituting the New Covenant, which is celebrated by Christians in the form of the sacrament of the Lord&#8217;s Supper.  Elder Jeffrey R. Holland admonished Latter-day Saints to view this sacrament as <em>our</em> passover, remembrance of <em>our</em> safety and deliverance and redemption.</p>
<p>In addition, Mormons experienced their own Exodus when they were led out of the boundaries of the United States by their &#8220;<a href="http://www.timelineindex.com/content/view/2758">American Moses</a>,&#8221; Brigham Young.  Leonard J. Arrington subtitled his biography of Young &#8220;American Moses,&#8221; explaining:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Brigham was the same sort of a leader as Moses in serving people for a long period of time, in achieving their goal of entering into a kingdom blessed by God&#8230; Brigham was something for us that Moses was for the people of Israel. He led his people figuratively and quite literally, and they survived because of that leadership and their faith.</p></blockquote>
<p>I do think the epic stories which identify the early Mormons and the children of Israel as a people persecuted for their religious convictions are meaningful. Obama&#8217;s exhortation to use this as a motivator to fight injustice rings true to my &#8220;Latter-day Israelite&#8221; heart.  And this is why I&#8217;ve identified so strongly with the plight of the FLDS men of the Yearning for Zion ranch in Texas who are now being sentenced for their plural marriages.  I don&#8217;t expect any of the readers here at Mormon Matters to agree with me on this.  But I&#8217;m sad that the justice system is sending hard-working, religiously-motivated men to prison, depriving their young wives and children of their loving care.  I often wonder why we, with the heritage we have of being misunderstood for our unusual marital practices, are not more sympathetic to the men who have been sentenced this month.  <img class="alignright" src="http://www.oag.state.tx.us/newspubs/releases/2008/072808jessop_merril.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="250" />In particular, I speak of Merril Leroy Jessop, who was sentenced March 19th to a 75-year prison sentence and $10,000 fine.  To me, this seems a clear case of religious discrimination and oppression. Jessop was accused of having sex with a girl who was 15 years old when he was 31 and already married. Even if you think these men are criminals who deserve to be punished and  these young women are victims, the sentence is excessive.  A <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_and_punishment">Wikipedia article</a> states that the average sentence for convicted rapists was 11.8 years, while the actual time served was 5.4 years. What sets this case apart from many other similar situations? The prosecution asked the jury to send a message to a collective group of people, to make the price so high to dissuade others from doing the same.  This is unconstitutional and in my eyes constitutes religious persecution.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to go on about this particular case &#8212; it&#8217;s only one example of what I see as injustice and oppression, and there are of course many more.  But I do appreciate President Obama&#8217;s invitation to connect Exodus and the Passover story with social justice.  I thought I&#8217;d share with you what&#8217;s going through my mind during this Passover week, and what I&#8217;ll be thinking of as LDS Sunday School classes comfortably discuss Moses.</p>
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		<title>Perspective</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>single mormon chick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everybody blogs, right? Why not me? Looking for my niche, my angle, and the one thing that seemed to make me stand out in my corner of the world. I found it: Being single. And 40. And Mormon. In a family ward. In a town where EVERYONE is under 30, sealed in the temple and constantly reproducing. The best humor is found in our painful life experiences. Read about mine and laugh with me. Or at me. Whichever I was late to sacrament meeting last Sunday so I decided to sit in the foyer and clean out the messenger bag i used for church while I listened to the talks. I love it when I can multitask like that at church. I am sure someone has cleaned out their purse in the chapel, but I wouldn&#8217;t do it. Seems irreverent and a little tacky, but that&#8217;s just me. I am not calling anyone to repentance, believe me. There are 4 wards that use our building, so listening to the talks became difficult as the previous wards third hour came to a close and people were gathering their families to go home. It got impossible when the Relief Society president came [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody blogs, right?  Why not me?  Looking for my niche, my angle, and the one thing that seemed to make me stand out in my corner of the world. I found it: Being single. And 40. And Mormon. In a family ward. In a town where EVERYONE is under 30, sealed in the temple and constantly reproducing. The best humor is found in our painful life experiences. <a href="http://singlemormonchick.blogspot.com/">Read</a> about mine and laugh with me. Or at me. Whichever <span id="more-8404"></span><br />
I was late to sacrament meeting last Sunday so I decided to sit in the foyer and clean out the messenger bag i used for church while I listened to the talks. I love it when I can multitask like that at church. I am sure someone has cleaned out their purse in the chapel, but I wouldn&#8217;t do it. Seems irreverent and a little tacky, but that&#8217;s just me. I am not calling anyone to repentance, believe me.<br />
There are 4 wards that use our building, so listening to the talks became difficult as the previous wards third hour came to a close and people were gathering their families to go home. It got impossible when the Relief Society president came out with her screaming two year old and two additional women came out to deal with their misbehaving kids.</p>
<p>I consider all of these women my friends and so we started chatting. As we bemoaned the unfortunate decline of the &#8220;spare the rod, spoil the child&#8221; philosophy, we noticed the elders walking down the hall. One of the women commented on how cute they were, but followed up with how young they looked. We all kind of giggled, but it opened up a discussion on how your perspective changes on something that is essentially unchanging. For the most part, missionaries are 19-21 and that&#8217;s how its been for decades, but how those young men are viewed drastically changes over time.</p>
<p>When I was a young girl, having the missionaries over for dinner was a blast. They were the best playmates ever. They ate like they had two hollow legs and would just rough house(way before the more recent guidelines that prohibit such things)and act goofy until they had to go home and make curfew. Once you graduate from Primary into the Young Womens program these elders morph into demigod-like status. They are so cute and so funny and so cool and you just can&#8217;t wait until you can date and marry your own RM. Beehive, Mia Maid(you can date!), and then finally Laurel, when dating a returned missionary is often a reality. Now they are potential husbands so you are sizing them up as breeding stock and providers. This phase will last for a few months to a few years. Maybe you will go to BYU for your MRS degree, maybe you will meet your eternal companion at FHE in your singles ward. There are so many ways it can happen, but it usually ends with your standing in a receiving line and your closest friends and family eating those chalky pastel mints and drinking ice water out of a punch bowl. Then, if you have a real testimony, you give birth to your own little missionary nine months later. The perspective changes and your focus shifts to raising the next generation of missionaries. </p>
<p>My perspective now?  Perspective is a funny thing.  The girls from my Laurel class are now sending their sons on missions. One of those girls just welcomed her oldest son back from serving an honorable mission in Argentina. Technically, I am old enough to be the mother of a returned missionary, yet I shamelessly flirt with them via my blog. In my defense, <a href="http://mormonbachelorpad.blogspot.com/">Jake</a> started it, but&#8230;</p>
<p>What seemingly unchanging things within the church changed for you, depending on your perspective?</p>
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		<title>What Bothers Me, and Why I Still Believe</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>AdamF</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am an active member of the church, and a believer. I am well aware of most of the controversial issues (Book of Abraham, DNA, Book of Mormon historicity, polyandry, etc.). Some of them occasionally bother me. Others do not. Although according to statistics I am very educated, I probably could not win an argument defending the church on any of those points. I could not support the church on Prop. 8, (if you want to specifically comment on that, please go here). I will probably never understand in this life why we are discouraged from praying to our Heavenly Mother, or why women are no longer allowed bless the sick. I am sure I could go on, and so could many of you. I occasionally get asked or read questions like, &#8220;If Joseph Smith made claims that were false, how can you believe any of his claims?&#8221; &#8220;When you line everything up, how can you still logically believe it to be true?&#8221; For anyone questioning the faith, or those who have left the church who may be reading this, feel free to mentally insert other questions here. They are all good and valid in my opinion. I do not fault [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an active member of the church, and a believer.</p>
<p>I am well aware of most of the controversial issues (Book of Abraham, DNA, Book of Mormon historicity, polyandry, etc.). Some of them occasionally bother me. Others do not. Although <a href="http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/QTTable?_bm=y&amp;-geo_id=01000US&amp;-qr_name=DEC_2000_SF3_U_QTP20&amp;-ds_name=DEC_2000_SF3_U&amp;-redoLog=false">according to statistics</a> I am very educated, I probably could not win an argument defending the church on any of those points. I could not support the church on Prop. 8, (if you want to specifically comment on that, <a href="http://www.shenpawarrior.com/2008/11/my-testimony-of-gospel-and-why-im.html" target="_blank">please go here</a>). I will probably never understand in this life why we are discouraged from <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=956a94bf3938b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;hideNav=1" target="_blank">praying to our Heavenly Mother</a>, or why women are no longer allowed bless the sick. I am sure I could go on, and so could many of you.</p>
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<p>I occasionally get asked or read questions like, &#8220;If Joseph Smith made claims that were false, how can you believe any of his claims?&#8221; &#8220;When you line everything up, how can you still logically believe it to be true?&#8221; For anyone questioning the faith, or those who have left the church who may be reading this, feel free to mentally insert other questions here. They are all good and valid in my opinion. I do not fault anyone for asking them, nor for being disturbed enough by them to leave the faith. Although my path is different, I wish you the best.</p>
<p>How do I explain my belief and activity in the church? Have I put &#8220;feelings&#8221; above reason?</p>
<p>I was raised by a saint of a mother and an intellectual yet very spiritual father. Church books lined the shelves: Quinn, Compton, and even Bagley&#8217;s Blood of The Prophets and Southerton&#8217;s Lost Tribe made appearances. On hunting trips my father would sometimes shoot his buffalo in the name of Allah (in Turkish) so our good Muslim friends could enjoy it with us. As bishop, he helped countless families regardless of legal status, blessed a neighbor&#8217;s sick cat, and was a safe haven for gay members to turn to. My parents left their ward a few years ago to attend a Hispanic branch, where they can do a lot more than debate in Sunday School over gospel minutiae. They taught me by word and example that serving and loving others always trumps theology.</p>
<p>As a priest I loved blessing the sacrament. It was probably the first time I felt a significant sense of the sacred&#8211;it was intoxicating. I loved seminary and institute, even when I was taught that Darwin was Satan&#8217;s answer to Joseph Smith (that one still makes me smile). I often felt a sense of awe watching the RMs come home. I wanted what they had. My father called it &#8220;spiritual muscle.&#8221; My mission in Japan was the right place at the right time for me, for many reasons. It was the best investment of time I had ever made (up to that point, of course!).</p>
<p>The Book of Mormon has a special place in my life. One experience reading King Benjamin started what became a small series of nearly indescribable <em>subjective</em> positive spiritual experiences, (I once tried to describe what it was like to an inquiring non-member/acquaintance and was mocked for it, so I hold close what is most sacred&#8211;let&#8217;s just say that a few of them were more than just a &#8220;tingling down the spine&#8221; or &#8220;warm feelings&#8221;). I have also felt what I interpret to be the infinite love and patience of God, for me and for all of his children. These &#8220;feelings&#8221; are as important and special to me as my &#8220;feelings&#8221; for my wife and son.</p>
<p>I love having a community wherever I go. I generally enjoy responsibilities at church, (currently the strengthening marriage instructor) and I have found that if I&#8217;m prepared and attentive, the meetings are <em>usually</em> more than worthwhile. I love General Conference, and agree with the teachings <em>almost</em> all of the time. Some people (both in and out of the church) seem to think that a prophet is either always right or not a prophet at all. I was not brought up that way, and have a difficult time understanding it now. Like Henry Eyring (Sr.) said, I think that prophets are wonderful because <em>sometimes</em> they speak for God. It is for those special moments of elevation and insight that I respect and listen to them.</p>
<p>Certain aspects of Mormon theology also fit me better than any religion or philosophy I know. This will have to be a later post, but marriage and personal growth are two of the most important things in life to me, and Mormonism fits those quite well, (I am definitely open to other views or ideas on this, if you have some).</p>
<p>I love symbolism, and enjoy the temple ordinances&#8211;I expect that they will continue to evolve, and look forward to it. I see Christ and relationships in everything in the temple. It can be different, even awkward at first, but looking deeper provides inspiration and insight that is a moving and a stabilizing force in my life. I believe in Christ. He <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2023:34;&amp;version=9;" target="_blank">inspires goodness</a>. He is the answer to the question of evil and tragedy and suffering. He unconditionally <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=1+Nephi+11%3A17&amp;do=Search" target="_blank">loves everyone</a>. That is a God I believe in. His revelations are in the Church, in books, in the rocks, and hopefully in my dissertation in a few years. None of those conduits are free from error.</p>
<p>This is not an argument for Mormonism. I am not telling others how they should approach faith, or activity in the church. This is simply how I am doing it. I could not be more logical: Some stuff bothers me, some of it really inspires me, gives meaning to my life and family, and has been the source of experiences (not always just feelings) and growth that I cannot reject. I do not have my head in the sand. I am not plugging my ears and yelling &#8220;faith! faith! faith!&#8221; at valid and logical arguments against the church&#8217;s claims.</p>
<p>Some people may think that if I have concerns or disagreements I should drop the church. Others may think I should try harder to procure some answers for my questions and concerns. I have pondered the first option and tried out the second for a while. In one of the clearest insights in my life, I found that neither option is even <em>remotely</em> satisfying. I believe in the gospel, and I am not an apologist. So here I am, in the church, good and bad, <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2009/05/22/best-and-worst-mormon-quotes/">best and worst</a>, inspiring and awkward.</p>
<p>What is your story?</p>
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<li>How do you handle issues that are difficult or perhaps impossible to reconcile?</li>
<li>What are the best parts of your experiences in the church?</li>
<li>Why have you ultimately decided to stay or leave? (Please keep these in a spirit of sharing and mutual understanding.)</li>
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<p>Do you know of any good related posts (by those who have stayed OR left&#8211;again, written with some humility, please). Next week there will be a guest post by a friend of mine who left the church a while back. Here are a few others, from various perspectives:</p>
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<li><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2008/02/25/why-i-am-not-a-disaffected-mormon/" target="_blank">Why I Am Not a Disaffected Mormon</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thejoosblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/not-ashamed.html" target="_blank">Not ashamed</a></li>
<li><a href="http://irresistibledisgrace.wordpress.com/2009/05/28/the-atheist-hiding-within-the-mormon/" target="_blank">The atheist hiding within the Mormon</a></li>
<li><a href="http://byzantium.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/i-have-always-been-a-pagan/" target="_blank">I Have Always Been A Pagan</a></li>
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		<title>Filtered Visions by guest Reuben Collins</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been thinking about Levi Peterson&#8217;s The Backslider lately (SPOILERS AHEAD). The 1986 novel tells the story of Frank Windham, a Mormon cowboy from southern Utah. Frank struggles with his faith and finding his place in Mormon culture. Topics including sexual sin, backsliding, self-mutilation, and guilt have made this novel pretty controversial in many Mormon settings. Despite being beautifully written, I&#8217;ve always thought that the true genious of the novel is the way Frank envisions God &#38; Jesus. Something happens during the transmission of Heavenly knowlege from God into the human mind. We are terribly incapable of understanding or comprehending God. And this means that our visions and revelations, as sacred as they may be, aren&#8217;t actually visions of God. They&#8217;re human interpretations of glory beyond our understanding. We have visions of God &#8211; glorious visions &#8211; real visions &#8211; but they&#8217;re filtered through an earthly lens colored by our personal circumstances. We understand God based on who we need Him to be. This isn&#8217;t to denigrate the authenticity of visions, but we should be careful when trying to make categorical statements about God based on an earthly vision. At one point in the novel, Frank is feeling guilty because [...]]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about Levi Peterson&#8217;s The Backslider lately (SPOILERS AHEAD). <span id="more-4400"></span></p>
<p>The 1986 novel tells the story of Frank Windham, a Mormon cowboy from southern Utah. Frank struggles with his faith and finding his place in Mormon culture. Topics including sexual sin, backsliding, self-mutilation, and guilt have made this novel pretty controversial in many Mormon settings. Despite being beautifully written, I&#8217;ve always thought that the true genious of the novel is the way Frank envisions God &amp; Jesus.</p>
<p>Something happens during the transmission of Heavenly knowlege from God into the human mind. We are terribly incapable of understanding or comprehending God. And this means that our visions and revelations, as sacred as they may be, aren&#8217;t actually visions of God. They&#8217;re human interpretations of glory beyond our understanding. We have visions of God &#8211; glorious visions &#8211; real visions &#8211; but they&#8217;re filtered through an earthly lens colored by our personal circumstances. We understand God based on who we need Him to be. This isn&#8217;t to denigrate the authenticity of visions, but we should be careful when trying to make categorical statements about God based on an earthly vision.</p>
<p>At one point in the novel, Frank is feeling guilty because of his backsliding and he imagines God pointing a gun at him, calling him to repentance. For some this is absurd, but for Frank, it was as real as any other heavenly vision. His understanding of God is shaped by his experiences. Whereas God communicated his wrath to Adam through banishment, to Noah through flooding, to Moses through serpents and plagues, He communicated his wrath to Frank through a rifle.</p>
<p>By the end of the novel, Frank imagines Jesus as a Cowboy, riding a horse with cigarette in hand. It&#8217;s an account that is sure to rub many Mormons the wrong way, but it&#8217;s who Frank needed Jesus to be in order to have faith in Him. A merciful God wouldn&#8217;t send Frank anything less than Cowboy Jesus.</p>
<p>So we can talk about who God is, what He looks like, or where He came from, but it doesn&#8217;t matter.  What matters is that He is.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much about God, but i&#8217;m pretty sure Jesus rides a bicycle.</p>
<p>&#8220;Happiness is a full bike rack!&#8221; &#8211;Yehuda Moon</p>
<p>So attentive MM readers, won&#8217;t you tell me a little about YOUR version of God?</p>
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		<title>Why aren&#8217;t Mormons Green?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have lived here in the UK -London for 20 years now and when friends and family come over they sometimes comment on how green we are over here. They observe that most of us dry our clothes on the  line, drive much smaller cars, live in shoe box’s compared to the average size of an American home, walk to the shops, use long life low wattage low energy bulbs, changing windows over for double glazing, doubling up on insulation, are becoming more obsessive about recycling, drive low emission high mpg diesel cars, save left over food, food portions at restaurants smaller and public transport used far more often and readily available. It amazes some of the Brits when they go to Utah to see how big the houses are especially in many cases for so few people who live in them.  Huge Ford Explorers, steak dinners that could feed a typical family of four.  When they go for the first time they come back thinking that it’s a land of excess. I know there have been many of the changes I have described above happening in Utah and throughout the states but there is not quite the buzz or [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have lived here in the UK -London for 20 years now and when friends and family come over they sometimes comment on how green we are over here. They observe that most of us dry our clothes on the  line, drive much smaller cars, live in shoe box’s compared to the average size of an American home, walk to the shops, use long life low wattage low energy bulbs, changing windows over for double glazing, doubling up on insulation, are becoming more obsessive about recycling, drive low emission high mpg diesel cars, save left over food, food portions at<span> </span>restaurants smaller and public transport used far more often and readily available.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It amazes some of the Brits when they go to Utah to see how big the houses are especially in many cases for so few people who live in them.  Huge Ford Explorers, steak dinners that could feed a typical family of four.  When they go for the first time they come back thinking<span> </span>that it’s a land of excess.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I know there have been many of the changes I have described above happening in Utah and throughout the states but there is not quite the buzz or emphasis on it that I see here at least IMO!</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I also have this theory that Mormons aren’t into green issues because</p>
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<li class="MsoNormal">Many believe the second      coming will be coming soon (God the creator of this earth will be able to      clean up the planet in a second, our efforts are pointless.</li>
<li class="MsoNormal">We have to get our      priorities right &#8211; family, missionary work, ward service, temple      work.  Being green is definitely not a priority now</li>
<li class="MsoNormal">If it was important the      prophet and apostles would be vigorously emphasizing it during conference.</li>
<li class="MsoNormal">It would be stressed and      accentuated in the manuals</li>
<li class="MsoNormal">Gas guzzling cars &#8211; God      created fossil fuels for our use.  He created this earth and when we      run out God will inspire man to come up with an alternative fuel &#8211; he      always provides for us.</li>
<li class="MsoNormal">God made fossil fuel for      our use and we are fortunate to be Americans and live in a place where      fuel is cheap and are blessed to be here.</li>
<li class="MsoNormal">We have proven ourselves in      the pre-existence and in this life and we deserve the just rewards for      being faithful members</li>
<li class="MsoNormal">An attitude of the more physical stuff I have cars, houses, boats shows were being blessed abundantly</li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span class="fullpost"><span style="&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">We have been hearing a lot about fuel and energy—about their high cost and limited supply, our unsafe and unpredictable dependence on their suppliers, and the need for new and sustainable sources of energy. I leave the discussion of these complicated issues to leaders of government and industry. The fuel I want to discuss is spiritual fuel. </span></span><span style="&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">Elder L. Tom Perry </span></li>
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		<title>Revelation &amp; Things</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today&#8217;s post comes from The Teacher.  Section 8 of the Doctrine &#38; Covenants refers to &#8220;another gift&#8221; Olivery Cowdery had, called at different times &#8220;the gift of Aaron&#8221; or &#8220;the rod of nature.&#8221;  Several commentators recognize this gift as related to Oliver&#8217;s use of a divining rod. If you interpret Oliver&#8217;s &#8220;gift of Aaron&#8221; in Section 8 as a divining rod, it makes for some interesting reading.  Oliver&#8217;s gift has told him many things (verse 6).  The gift only works for Oliver because of the power of God (verse 7).  If he has faith in his gift, he will use it to do marvelous things (verse 8).  Oliver&#8217;s gift is the work of God (id.). When I first learned of what &#8220;the gift of Aaron&#8221; might be, my initial reaction was that it was, well, odd.  I mean, a divining rod?  I knew about Joseph Smith and folk magic, but I sort of put the idea aside.  Then, I read the heading for Section 11 which says, &#8220;This revelation was received through the Urim and Thummim in answer to Joseph&#8217;s supplication and inquiry.&#8221;  And I thought, &#8220;Whoa.&#8221;  Faithful Mormons accpet that Joseph used the Urim and Thummim and a seer [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s post comes from <a href="http://gosepldoctrineunderground.blogspot.com/">The Teacher</a>.  <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/8">Section 8</a> of the Doctrine &amp; Covenants refers to &#8220;another gift&#8221; Olivery Cowdery had, called at different times &#8220;the gift of Aaron&#8221; or &#8220;the rod of nature.&#8221;  Several commentators recognize this gift as related to Oliver&#8217;s use of a divining rod.<span id="more-4220"></span></p>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://www.jwwells.com/rod.gif" alt="" />If you interpret Oliver&#8217;s &#8220;gift of Aaron&#8221; in Section 8 as a divining rod, it makes for some interesting reading.  Oliver&#8217;s gift has told him many things (verse 6).  The gift only works for Oliver because of the power of God (verse 7).  If he has faith in his gift, he will use it to do marvelous things (verse 8).  Oliver&#8217;s gift is the work of God (id.).</p>
<p>When I first learned of what &#8220;the gift of Aaron&#8221; might be, my initial reaction was that it was, well, odd.  I mean, a divining rod?  I knew about Joseph Smith and folk magic, but I sort of put the idea aside.  Then, I read the heading for Section 11 which says, &#8220;This revelation was received through the Urim and Thummim in answer to Joseph&#8217;s supplication and inquiry.&#8221;  And I thought, &#8220;Whoa.&#8221; </p>
<p>Faithful Mormons accpet that Joseph used the Urim and Thummim and a seer stone to translate the Book of Mormon.  He used the Urim and Thummim to receive revelations that became scriptural passages of the Doctrine &amp; Covenants.  Is a divining rod any stranger than a Urim and Thummim?  At least I have seen a divining rod.  I have heard people talk about divining rods.  I have never seen a Urim and Thummim.  And that got me thinking about revelation.</p>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://www.imagesoftherestoration.org/blog/wp-content/images/jstranslatingbom.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="67" />Divining rods and seer stones and interpreters are certainly outside our daily experience, and it is easy to think them odd.  But weren&#8217;t they just aids that Joseph (and perhaps Oliver) used for a while in seeking inspiration and revelation from God?  Don&#8217;t we all use tangible objects to help us believe and seek God&#8217;s guidance?</p>
<p>I have long thought that part of the power of ordinances is their tangibility.  You know precisely when you were immersed in water, and that meant something to you.  You know when hands are placed upon your head.  When you eat the bread and drink the water, it is a signal to your soul (the tangible and the intangible part) that you are seeking for God&#8217;s spirit.  When I think about it, I see lots of examples of tangibility as an aid to revelation and faith.</p>
<p>Easton, a commenter at Gospel Doctrine Underground, raised a couple of interesting ideas.  He referred to a talk by Dallin Oaks who said that reading the scriptures can be like a Urim and Thummim.  By that, Elder Oads meant that we can receive revelation through scripture study, not just on the topic we are reading about, but on any topic.  Easton also referred to a statement by Brigham Young that Joseph Smith had taught that everyone could and should have their own seer stone.  I don&#8217;t know if Joseph was speaking literally, but I think we all use tangible things to seek revelation.  The temple might be the ultimate example.  Among other things, don&#8217;t lots of people who really need revelation and guidance go to the temple because they believe being in a sacred place, a building, will help them find it?</p>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://www.salamandersociety.com/toptens/050101urim_thummim.jpg" alt="" />I guess it is natural to think that things outside our experience, like the Urim and Thummim and seer stones, are kind of strange.  But we have a wealth of tangibility that Joseph and Oliver did not have:  sacrament emblems blessed by the priesthood, the laying on of hands, celestial rooms.  All these things help us find inspiration and direction from God.  Maybe God just finds ways to work through the tools we have.</p>
<p>What do you think?  Can tangible things help us get revelation?  Do you have a &#8220;seer stone&#8221;?  What is it?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Johnston</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tao Te Ching 38 When the Tao is lost, there is goodness. When goodness is lost, there is morality. When morality is lost, there is ritual. Ritual is the husk of true faith, the beginning of chaos. Therefore the Master concerns himself with the depths and not the surface, with the fruit and not the flower. He has no will of his own. He dwells in reality, and lets all illusions go. Ritual is important in religion. It is important in life. Can we become so clever that we reject the rituals? Sure, we know that waters of baptism don&#8217;t actually clean someone physically from intangible sin. The person doesn&#8217;t really die and then come back to life. The bread and wine of sacrament are not flesh and blood. Jesus Christ, the Son of God, spilled his blood and died for our sins upon a wooden cross. He was a symbol of great sacrifice. Did God really have to do that physically? Isn&#8217;t it the same to just think about the symbol? Can&#8217;t we just talk about? We can be very logical and concrete. There is no proof that it really matters. It is silly and naive to do such [...]]]></description>
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<b><u>Tao Te Ching 38</u></b><br />
<em><big>When the Tao is lost, there is goodness.<br />
When goodness is lost, there is morality.<br />
When morality is lost, there is ritual.<br />
Ritual is the husk of true faith,<br />
the beginning of chaos.</p>
<p>Therefore the Master concerns himself<br />
with the depths and not the surface,<br />
with the fruit and not the flower.<br />
He has no will of his own.<br />
He dwells in reality,<br />
and lets all illusions go.</big></em></p></blockquote>
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<img src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/corn-image.jpg" align="left" height="100" width="100" alt="" /></p>
<p>Ritual is important in religion.  It is important in life.  Can we become so clever that we reject the rituals?  Sure, we know that waters of baptism don&#8217;t actually clean someone physically from intangible sin.  The person doesn&#8217;t really die and then come back to life.  The bread and wine of sacrament are not flesh and blood.</p>
<p>Jesus Christ, the Son of God, spilled his blood and died for our sins upon a wooden cross.  He was a symbol of great sacrifice.  Did God really have to do that physically?  Isn&#8217;t it the same to just think about the symbol?  Can&#8217;t we just talk about?  We can be very logical and concrete.  There is no proof that it really matters.  It is silly and naive to do such things, childlike.  They are not necessary.</p>
<p>Or does that perspective tear away the husk of true faith?<img src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/40709058coconut.jpg" align="right" height="100" width="100" alt="" /></p>
<p>We seek the sweet kernels of corn inside.  We seek the fatty meat and milk of the coconut.  It&#8217;s hidden inside past the husk.  Those delightful morsels can&#8217;t become fruit without the husk to shield and protect them while they grow.  Once the fruit is mature, is the husk of no use?  No.  It holds and protects what is inside &#8212; a container for something delicious.</p>
<p>The master knows that deconstruction beyond ritual is the borderline of chaos.  The capstone can not shine and reflect in the rays of the glorious sun without the base stones holding it up.</p>
<p>Ritual is the husk of true faith.  This is the reality.  Can you let go of your illusions and let it happen?</p>
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		<title>Evidences and Reconciliations 8/11/08</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Nilsson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies. Though ye offer me burnt offerings and your meat offerings, I will not accept them: neither will I regard the peace offerings of your fat beasts. Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols. But let judgment run down as waters, and righteousness as a mighty stream. Amos 5:21-24 For verily this is a day appointed unto you to rest from your labors, and to pay thy devotions unto the Most High; nevertheless thy vows shall be offered up in righteousness on all days and at all times;but remember that on this, the Lord’s day, thou shalt offer thine oblations and thy sacraments unto the Most High, confessing thy sins unto thy brethren, and before the Lord. And on this day thou shalt do none other thing, only let thy food be prepared with singleness of heart that thy fasting may be perfect, or, in other words, that thy joy may be full. Doctrine and Covenants 59:9-13 Discuss, my friends:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies.  Though ye offer me burnt offerings and your meat offerings, I will not accept </em><em>them: neither will I regard the peace offerings of your fat beasts. Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols. But let judgment run down as waters, and righteousness as a mighty stream.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Amos 5:21-24</strong></p>
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<p><em>For verily this is a day appointed unto you to rest from your labors, and to pay thy devotions unto the Most High; nevertheless thy vows shall be offered up in righteousness on all days and at all times;but remember that on this, the Lord’s day, thou shalt offer thine oblations and thy sacraments unto the Most High, confessing thy sins unto thy brethren, and before the Lord. And on this day thou shalt do none other thing, only let thy food be prepared with singleness of heart that thy fasting may be perfect, or, in other words, that thy joy may be full.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Doctrine and Covenants 59:9-13</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6CsxtE6Q6w" target="_blank">Discuss, </a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6CsxtE6Q6w" target="_blank">my friends:</a></p>
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		<title>Through the Ears of a &#8220;Gentile&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 11:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Nilsson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;I&#8217;m so glad I was born in this, the one true church of God.&#8221; &#8220;Please bless the party leaders tonight [of the Republican Party] that they may be guided to make the right decisions.&#8221; &#8220;Please be with our armed forces as they fight for freedom [in Iraq].&#8221; &#8220;The Book of Mormon gives us a much clearer picture of Christ than the Bible.&#8221; &#8220;The Second Coming must be drawing near. I don&#8217;t feel we have a true presidential candidate in the race now. The world is getting worse and worse. Gays want to get married.&#8221; &#8220;I can&#8217;t believe that Bill Clinton made so much money off of his new book. He is an adulterer.&#8221; &#8220;The Lord helped us buy our new house [in a swanky neighborhood].&#8221; If you attend an LDS worship service, you may hear statements like the above. I have heard variations of these statements many times. Next time you attend, try this experiment. Pretend you are a &#8220;Gentile&#8221; (if you need help imagining a non-Mormon, you can pick one of my top ten non-Mormon lives) and experience what happens during the three hours through their eyes and ears. Imagine their reaction to what you see, hear, and feel. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-432" title="med_111107_sundayservice0032" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/med_111107_sundayservice0032.jpg" alt="" />&#8220;I&#8217;m so glad I was born in this, the one true church  of God.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Please bless the party leaders tonight [of the Republican Party] that they may be guided to make the right decisions.&#8221;<span id="more-423"></span></p>
<p>&#8220;Please be with our armed forces as they fight for freedom [in Iraq].&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The Book of Mormon gives us a much clearer picture of Christ than the Bible.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The Second Coming must be drawing near. I don&#8217;t feel we have a true presidential candidate in the race now. The world is getting worse and worse. Gays want to get married.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I can&#8217;t believe that Bill Clinton made so much money off of his new book.  He is an adulterer.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The Lord helped us buy our new house [in a swanky neighborhood].&#8221;</p>
<p>If you attend an LDS worship service, you may hear statements like the above. I have heard variations of these statements many times.  Next time you attend, try this experiment.  Pretend you are a &#8220;Gentile&#8221; (if you need help imagining a non-Mormon, you can pick one of my <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2008/04/01/my-top-ten-non-mormon-lives/" target="_blank">top  ten non-Mormon lives</a>)  and experience what happens during the three hours through their eyes and ears. Imagine their reaction to what you see, hear, and feel.  I&#8217;ve done this many times, attending church with friends not of the LDS persuasion, and latterly with some extended family, both Protestant and Catholic.  The result has been that I have been more careful and considerate about the things I say at church!</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<p>Would hearing the statements above make you more or less likely to have goodwill towards <strong>Mormons</strong>?</p>
<p>What are the positive and negative impressions you receive about the <strong>LDS  Church</strong> from them?</p>
<p>Do you think statements like the above are likely to be taken as <strong>normative</strong> by non-LDS in attendance?</p>
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		<title>Preaching in Alamo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Nilsson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over spring break, I preached in Alamo. No, not THE Alamo. Alamo, New Mexico. It&#8217;s a non-contiguous part of the Navajo Nation southwest of Albuquerque. It started when my brother-in-law invited me to accompany him on a stake high council speaking assignment while I was in town for the week. Turns out he wanted another speaker! I said sure. It sounded like fun, except for the actual writing the talk part. Just getting there involved leaving the interstate at a ranch exit and looking for some kind of highway sign. We saw a few bullet-hole pocked signs, all with numbers which didn&#8217;t match the map, so we asked one local approaching the freeway for directions. She spat out an, &#8220;Oh my G&#8211;! You want to go there?!&#8221; and directed us down the road a piece. Her directions not being that great, we had to choose between a dirt road which looked like it hadn&#8217;t been driven on since the Vietnam War and a slightly larger dirt road. We took the road more traveled, and it made all the difference. An hour later, after washboarding all over the red clay road, passing cattle, horses, and the occasional car, we pulled into [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over spring break, I preached in Alamo.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-385" title="spider_rock_03" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/spider_rock_03.jpg" alt="" width="410" height="354" /> No, not THE Alamo.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alamo,_New_Mexico" target="_blank"><span id="more-384"></span>Alamo, New Mexico</a>. It&#8217;s a non-contiguous part of the Navajo Nation southwest of Albuquerque.</p>
<p>It started when my brother-in-law invited me to accompany him on a stake high council speaking assignment while I was in town for the week. Turns out he wanted another speaker! I said sure. It sounded like fun, except for the actual writing the talk part.</p>
<p>Just getting there involved leaving the interstate at a ranch exit and looking for some kind of highway sign. We saw a few bullet-hole pocked signs, all with numbers which didn&#8217;t match the map, so we asked one local approaching the freeway for directions. She spat out an, &#8220;Oh my G&#8211;! You want to go there?!&#8221; and directed us down the road a piece. Her directions not being that great, we had to choose between a dirt road which looked like it hadn&#8217;t been driven on since the Vietnam War and a slightly larger dirt road. We took the road more traveled, and it made all the difference.</p>
<p>An hour later, after washboarding all over the red clay road, passing cattle, horses, and the occasional car, we pulled into Alamo in the middle of a dust storm and parked at the Chapter House. We were greeted by a man who handed me and my brother-in-law brooms and asked us to sweep the dirt out of the hallways in preparation for the meeting.</p>
<p>The members walked in and greeted us. Most were dressed casually, with jeans, boots, and windbreakers over T-shirts or white shirts and bolo ties. They all seemed intent on being there. We put up chairs and assembled the sacrament table together, and shortly before the meeting, I was asked by one of the branch members if I would administer the sacrament as well. The music was provided by one of the Church&#8217;s hymn CD&#8217;s played on a small boom box set on a metal folding chair next to the presiding officer.</p>
<p>My talk was OK, my brother-in-law&#8217;s was better, and the sacrament itself was a short, sweet experience, where each small child huddled in the back of the hall eagerly grabbed a morsel of bread and assisted their siblings and friends with carefully extracting the water cups from the trays. Gospel Doctrine, taught from the Gospel Essentials text by my brother-in-law, was another chance to sense the infuence of God as he shared a sensitive and painful experience from his own life which helped one brother in the congregation who had been victim to a similar tragedy.</p>
<p>Church ended, with a potluck lunch eaten by the rest of the branch, while we made our way to the pickup for the long drive back to Albuquerque. As we approached the door, a senior missionary assigned to the branch warned us, &#8220;You&#8217;ve got a flat tire.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;At least we&#8217;ve got a spare,&#8221; I thought. We soon found that both rear tires had been punctured by the rough road we had traveled. The formerly quiet Navajo branch members swung into action, faces which had been more or less somber during the church service broke out into smiles, and excited chatter erupted as the opportunity to serve arose. Two different &#8220;rescue parties&#8221; headed out in pickup trucks to fetch tire repair kits and compressors from far-flung homes on the reservation. We soon had two repaired tires and a few new friends.</p>
<p>And I have my first bolo tie in commemoration of the experience, to my wife&#8217;s chagrin!</p>
<p>Have you ever had a &#8220;different&#8221; worship experience?</p>
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		<title>&#8220;From the crossroads of the West&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Nilsson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Years ago, my wife and I skipped our ward meetings to attend Music and the Spoken Word and thoroughly enjoyed it. We made a date out of it by staying the night before in the old Inn at Temple Square. It was a fun experience eating breakfast Sunday morning in the hotel restaurant (Pavilions?) and walking across the street to the Tabernacle to listen to the Mormon Tabernacle Choir do what it does best. Every Sunday, even before General Conference, the Choir provides music to inspire and a spoken word to uplift. I got to thinking recently about all of the times I&#8217;ve been to a sacrament meeting and the only inspiring thing was the sacrament itself. Maybe it&#8217;s just me, but here&#8217;s my idea: once a month, the LDS Church set aside a sacrament meeting where music predominates, with one short general uplifting sermon, modeled on Music and the Spoken Word. Think of all the benefits. Thousands of short, tasteful, Church-approved pre-written sermons to be drawn upon since the days of Richard L. Evans. One safe Sunday for missionaries to bring investigators to. One short sacrament meeting. The benefits could spill over into the other meetings of the day. [...]]]></description>
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<p>Years ago, my wife and I skipped our ward meetings to attend <a href="http://www.musicandthespokenword.com/" target="_blank">Music and the Spoken Word</a> and thoroughly enjoyed it.  <span id="more-331"></span>We made a date out of it by staying the night before in the old Inn at Temple Square.  It was a fun experience eating breakfast Sunday morning in the hotel restaurant (Pavilions?) and walking across the street to the Tabernacle to listen to the Mormon Tabernacle Choir do what it does best.  Every Sunday, even before General Conference, the Choir provides music to inspire and a spoken word to uplift.</p>
<p>I got to thinking recently about all of the times I&#8217;ve been to a sacrament meeting and the only inspiring thing was the sacrament itself. Maybe it&#8217;s just me, but here&#8217;s my idea: once a month, the LDS Church set aside a sacrament meeting where music predominates, with one short general uplifting sermon, modeled on Music and the Spoken Word.  Think of all the benefits.  Thousands of short, tasteful, Church-approved pre-written sermons to be drawn upon since the days of Richard L. Evans.  One safe Sunday for missionaries to bring investigators to.  One short sacrament meeting.  The benefits could spill over into the other meetings of the day.  With a shorter sacrament meeting time, say 40 minutes, the other meetings could last a little longer to delve into scriptural and other topics more heavily than normal.  Or we could all go home early, refreshed, and inspired.</p>
<p>Again we leave you, from the shadow of the everlasting hills&#8230;:</p>
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		<title>Drop it!  Who&#8217;s Worthy to Take the Sacrament?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it ever appropriate to intervene when someone &#8220;unworthy&#8221; is going to take the sacrament?  What level of &#8220;unworthiness&#8221; makes such intervention justified? There was a big disagreement about this on my mission.  An investigator who had been given a chapel card showed up for church just as the sacrament service was beginning.  When the bread tray came to him, he was unsure what to do, so he took a piece of the bread.  Just then, an older missionary who was serving in a branch leadership role jumped up from his seat on the stand and commanded the man (in Spanish) to &#8220;Drop it!&#8221; which he did.  Needless to say, the investigator never returned.  To explain his actions, the missionary referred to the following scriptures: 3 Ne. 18: 28-29 28 And now behold, this is the commandment which I give unto you, that ye shall not suffer any one knowingly to apartake of my flesh and blood bunworthily, when ye shall minister it; 29 For whoso eateth and drinketh my flesh and ablood bunworthily eateth and drinketh damnation to his soul; therefore if ye know that a man is unworthy to eat and drink of my flesh and blood ye shall forbid him. While this missionary was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it ever appropriate to intervene when someone &#8220;unworthy&#8221; is going to take the sacrament?  What level of &#8220;unworthiness&#8221; makes such intervention justified?</p>
<p><span id="more-303"></span>There was a big disagreement about this on my mission.  An investigator who had been given a chapel card showed up for church just as the sacrament service was beginning.  When the bread tray came to him, he was unsure what to do, so he took a piece of the bread.  Just then, an older missionary who was serving in a branch leadership role jumped up from his seat on the stand and commanded the man (in Spanish) to &#8220;Drop it!&#8221; which he did.  <img src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/sacrament.jpg" alt="sacrament.jpg" width="106" height="135" align="right" />Needless to say, the investigator never returned.  To explain his actions, the missionary referred to the following scriptures:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/3_ne/18/28-29#28"><span style="color: #40639d;">3 Ne. 18: 28-29</span></a> 28 And now behold, this is the commandment which I give unto you, that ye shall not suffer any one knowingly to <sup>a</sup><a title="Ex. 12: 43; 1 Cor. 11: 27 (27-30); 4 Ne. 1: 27." type="A" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/3_ne/18/28a"><span style="color: #40639d;">partake</span></a> of my flesh and blood <sup>b</sup><a title="Lev. 7: 18; Morm. 9: 29." type="A" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/3_ne/18/28b"><span class="searchword"><strong><span style="color: #40639d;">unworthily</span></strong></span></a>, when ye shall minister it;</p></blockquote>
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<p class="verse">29 For whoso eateth and drinketh my flesh and <sup>a</sup><a title="TG Blood, Symbolism of." type="B" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/3_ne/18/29a"><span style="color: #40639d;">blood</span></a> <sup>b</sup><a title="3 Ne. 12: 24 (23-26); D&amp;C 46: 4." type="A" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/3_ne/18/29b"><span class="searchword"><strong><span style="color: #40639d;">unworthily</span></strong></span></a> eateth and drinketh damnation to his soul; therefore if ye know that a man is unworthy to eat and drink of my flesh and blood ye shall forbid him.</p>
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<p class="verse" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)">While this missionary was perhaps alone in his strict interpretation of these scriptures in this specific situation, there is clearly a scriptural prohibition to prevent someone taking the sacrament unworthily.</p>
<p class="verse" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)">Should non-members be asked not to partake?  The current mormon.org provides a description of our services for visitors:</p>
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<p class="verse" onclick="return toggleMarked(event, this)"><strong>A typical meeting would consist of the following:</strong><br />
<strong>Hymns:</strong> Religious songs sung by the congregation (hymn books are provided).<br />
<strong>Prayers:</strong> Offered by local Church members.<br />
<strong>Partaking of the sacrament (communion):</strong>The sacrament consists of prepared bread and water, which is blessed and passed to members of the congregation by priesthood holders .<br />
<strong>Speakers:</strong> Typically a meeting will have two or three assigned speakers.<br />
<em>We do not pass a plate to request donations as part of our worship services.</em></p>
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<p>There is no specific prohibition made here instructing visitors to not partake.  Does that omission imply non-members are welcome to partake in the spirit of worship although it is not a renewal of their baptismal covenants?</p>
<p>Children and the mentally disabled frequently partake because they are considered innocent and in no way unworthy.  What about ex-Mormons who are not returning to the church but attending due to familial obligation?  What about crazy people (there are lots of brands of crazy)?  What about ex-Mormons who are crazy?</p>
<p>If intervention is desired, who should intervene?  How and when should this take place?  Isn&#8217;t a lay member intervening kind of like a citizen&#8217;s arrest?  This is one area where I agree with Elizabeth I:  I have &#8220;no desire to make windows into men&#8217;s souls.&#8221;  Nor have I seen anyone burst into flames for touching the sacrament or keel over dead like Uzzah the ark-steadier.  My tendency would be to leave it up to the individual, but perhaps I am being remiss.</p>
<p>And when do you feel you should recuse yourself from taking the sacrament?  For major infractions only?  If you are yelling at the kids to hurry in the morning?</p>
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