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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;The Blob&#8221; was one of those horror movies from the 1950&#8242;s that I, as a young boy, found right on the boundary of &#8220;too scary to watch&#8221;. The blob that consumed everything you saw as safe was scary, to be sure, but at least, at the end, a young Steve McQueen could save the day.  (The scariest movie, because of its utter hopelessness, was &#8220;On the Beach&#8221;.) And so the &#8220;blob has come down to us as something that is scary only to the very young. A younger Christianity once found science very scary &#8212; although history shows the conflict to be a little less about science versus religion, and a little more about intra-church politics than we usually notice. But eventually, much of the Christian world reached a peace treaty with the secular world based on the notion of non-overlapping magisteria. Religion has its realm; science has another. Peace is kept by neither side jostling the other. However, many people do not realize just how much territory has been ”occupied” since Galileo first stood under the judgment of the church centuries ago.  They are still debating evolution when the science, like the 1950′s horror monster, has already enveloped them and moved [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Blob&#8221; was one of those horror movies from the 1950&#8242;s that I, as a young boy, found right on the boundary of &#8220;too scary to watch&#8221;. The blob that consumed everything you saw as safe was scary, to be sure, but at least, at the end, a young Steve McQueen could save the day.  (The scariest movie, because of its utter hopelessness, was &#8220;On the Beach&#8221;.) And so the &#8220;blob has come down to us as something that is scary only to the very young.</p>
<p>A younger Christianity once found science very scary &#8212; although history shows the conflict to be a little less about science versus religion, and a little more about intra-church politics than we usually notice. But eventually, much of the Christian world reached a peace treaty with the secular world based on the notion of <em>non-overlapping magisteria</em>. Religion has its realm; science has another. Peace is kept by neither side jostling the other.</p>
<p>However, many people do not realize just how much territory has been ”occupied” since Galileo first stood under the judgment of the church centuries ago.  They are still debating evolution when the science, like the 1950′s horror monster, has already enveloped them and moved on.</p>
<p>As science acquires the capacity to explain more and more that we once considered miraculous — as it asserts the <em>authority</em> to enter what had once been ceded as the magisterium of the church — what <em>responsibility</em> does it have to maintain rigorous scientific standards in drawing conclusions about phenomena in the newly “occupied” territories? How does science envelop religion while still being respectful of religion, and <em>faithful</em> (irony fully intended) to science?</p>
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<p>The following paragraphs describe some things that come out of simple extrapolation of basic Western science.  Simply an exercise in consciousness-raising about consciousness when you look at science on time scales well within our technological imaginings, let alone out into deep time where all of human history looks like the lifespan of a mayfly. These are among the miracles that science asserts the capacity (now or eventually) to explain. So what does science owe religion? And what does science owe science?</p>
<p><strong><em>CONTROLLED EVOLUTION</em></strong></p>
<p>Within the lifetime of Charles Darwin, his half-cousin, Sir Francis Galton put forward the notion of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics"> eugenics</a> as an approach to improving humanity as a whole by selectively encouraging breeding of people felt to have desirable traits and discouraging breeding by people with undesirable traits. Of course, Galton did not originate the practice of “negative eugenics” — societies have been culling the weak in times of stress to preserve resources for the group as a whole for thousands of years. But eugenics quickly gained the support of some of the most famous and progressive personalities in American and British society early in the 2oth Century.</p>
<p>After the horrors of Hitler’s Germany, eugenics seemed to have died. However, the ethical issues never seem to be far away and underlie a whole set of concerns reemerging in modern medicine as possibilities of cloning, stem cell research, or designer babies force us to confront the growing power of biotechnology to probe and, sooner, than we might have thought, take control of the expression of our own genetic heritage.</p>
<p>I don’t know whether this power will be good or bad; I suspect learning to use new powers are always part of growing up as moral beings. My point, however, is that the growing intensity of the debate simply shows how near the powers are to becoming scientific reality. We’re talking about the development of significant genetic modifications perhaps on the time frame it took to go from the Wright brothers to Mars landers.</p>
<p>This would give us powers to cure many diseases and create many new material goods – which is why so much money is being poured into biotechnology — but what might it also create? Would we want to increase our average IQ by 20%? Make our bodies age more slowly? Change our bodily forms to more closely match cultural sexual ideals? Make ourselves more accepting of our cultural norms and belief systems? Those are all things we’ve already tried to produce in our children <em>without</em> conscious control of our genetics. Even questions about the meaning of life — or at least why we ask questions about the meaning of life that we choose to ask — can rapidly fall within a controlled evolution paradigm.</p>
<p><strong><em>CYBERLIFE</em></strong></p>
<p>Cyberlife is another element that is on the science horizon, and that is forcing us to think anew about what it means to be “alive”. Perhaps it may someday force us to ask what it means to be self-aware. We already all use “anti-viral” software to protect ourselves from programming code that replicates and spreads. More interestingly, we have discovered that mimicking evolution <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitness_landscape#Fitness_landscapes_in_evolutionary_optimization"> can be a highly efficient way of optimizing</a> computer programs to solve some extraordinarily complex problems.</p>
<p>Finding ways to create machines that can achieve goals in the real world — to create <a href="http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/whatisai/whatisai.html"> artificial intelligence</a> &#8212; at a level comparable to humans has been an active area of science since the 1950′s. In some ways it has been enormously successful. In other ways it has been enormously disappointing. The mechanisms that underlie some human problem solving play to the enormous speed and memory advantages of computers, but some of the methods used by our minds don’t appear to rely on those strengths at all. For example, as the artificial intelligence link above points out, computers are great at playing chess, but inferior at playing “go”, despite vast effort at programming computers to play the latter game.</p>
<p>This suggests an approach of increasingly improving life by matching machine intelligence with human intelligence — although it will cost a lot more than the $6 million man of the TV show — to get the best of both types of intelligence. We already have myoelectric prosthesis, in which signals from residual nerve clusters in the human body are sensed by electrodes and used to more naturally control the movement of artificial limbs. What the human brain might be able to control remotely by mind with a few centuries (decades?) of technological development — power systems, transportation systems, etc. — is clearly a question subject to scientific exploration.</p>
<p><strong><em>LONG-LIVED TECHNOLOGY</em></strong></p>
<p>The modern species of humanity has been around on the order of 100,000 years, according to the best fossil and mitochondrial DNA evidence. Civilizations based on agriculture rather than nomadic hunter-gatherer methods have been around on the order of 10,000 years. Civilizations based on rudimentary scientific observation beyond that necessary for agriculture have been around longer than, but on the order of, 1000 years. The industrial revolution began on the order of 100 years ago.</p>
<p>Human technological capabilities do seem to be accelerating. But how far? What if technological civilization lasts 1000 years more? Ten thousand years more? One million years? If our capabilities are god-like to our ancestors living at the end of the last ice age, would we even be able to relate to the capabilities of our descendents 1,000.000 years from now? Would we even recognize them as our descendents?</p>
<p>And what about civilizations elsewhere that got millions of years of a head start on us? The search for such civilizations has itself been a matter of science since at least the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation"> Green Bank Conference</a> in 1960. There are even classification systems for the level of technology in such civilizations, at least <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale"> one of which extrapolates from growth</a> in energy consumption the emergence of a galaxy-wide human civilization in as little additional time as the time humanity has already been on earth &#8212; a time that is a geological nothing.</p>
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<p>Again, my point in the above discussion is that these are <strong>all</strong> issues that science already considers within the realm of scientific inquiry. They all can and do generate papers and presentations in peer-reviewed journals and conferences. And I haven’t even touched any of the exotic ideas that scientists are suggesting as working hypotheses to explain gaps we <em>know</em> we do not understand!</p>
<p>The above topics are simply extrapolations of things we think we do know. Their uncertainty is so large that they have little or no predictive value. They permit earth to be everything from the most advanced civilization currently alive in the galaxy to the equivalent of a preserve for primitive wildlife. But the issues are clearly within the realm of science as scientists (in some disciplines, at least) <em>already</em> practice it.</p>
<p><strong>And I have long since crossed the border defined between the natural and the supernatural, between the scientific and the philosophical or theological, when the concept of non-overlapping magisteria was defined in the West.</strong></p>
<p>So I am suggesting that the boundary between science and religion can no longer be a matter of the phenomena being described themselves. It isn’t about whether or not we consider the meaning of facts versus the nature of facts either. As I’ve noted above, science is already probing scientifically the “meaning of meaning” as it probes the mysteries of the human brain and infers things about the nature of the human mind. It isn’t even about repeatability, since evolution and history themselves are sciences, yet we are nowhere close to hoping to repeat them even in simulations.</p>
<p>But as it contemplates its new responsibilities over what once was the realm of religion, science has a responsibility to itself not to fall into the same logical trap it claims creationists fall into: “If hypothesis X (evolution) can not explain everything, than hypothesis Y (creationism) need not yet explain anything, no matter how large the holes in hypothesis Y in absolute terms.” The same logical trap exists when X is religious, and Y is secular instead.</p>
<p>Science cannot start accepting sloppy evidence for its own explanations of the “miraculous”, i.e., evidence so sloppy it would not accept the evidence in any other field of its own endeavors.</p>
<p>In fiction, we can have Sherlock Holmes say, “When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains — however improbable — must be the truth.” I would suggest that for science to be true to its own methods, even when dealing with the “miraculous”, it must say something else.  “When you have eliminated the impossible, and whatever remains is still highly improbable, it is <em>most probable</em> that you have not yet imagined the truth.”</p>
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		<title>Duality and Divinity</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In both theology and religion, there is a concept called “dualism”, which — to avoid confusion later — I’ll note now has nothing much to do with “duality” as understood within modern physics.  The former concept involves the notion that there are two aspects of reality which may either be diametrically opposed, mutually inconsistent, balanced or unbalanced, or even complementary — but always conceptually separable such that they refer to two different things. Good or evil.  Material or immaterial.  Mind or matter.  Spiritual or physical. Even male or female. As this article from the Jewish Virtual Library describes, many of these “dualism” classifications have been used as the bases of philosophy and religions since primitive times. They seem to constantly reemerge after being subordinated to religious and philosophical principles of “monism” (oneness or wholeness). Duality instead has nothing to do with two different aspects of reality.  In contrast, it focuses on recognizing that a single, inseparable “monist” reality does almost always have two (or more) entirely separable “dual” descriptions.  It is the descriptions of reality that are dual — like two languages used to describe the same concept — and not the reality itself. In a way, duality was the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In both theology and religion, there is a concept called “dualism”, which — to avoid confusion later — I’ll note now has nothing much to do with “duality” as understood within modern physics.  The former concept involves the notion that there are two aspects of reality which may either be diametrically opposed, mutually inconsistent, balanced or unbalanced, or even complementary — but always conceptually separable such that they refer to two <em>different</em> things.</p>
<p>Good or evil.  Material or immaterial.  Mind or matter.  Spiritual or physical. Even male or female. As this article from the <a href="http://jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0006_0_05429.html"> Jewish Virtual Library</a> describes, many of these “dualism” classifications have been used as the bases of philosophy and religions since primitive times. They seem to constantly reemerge after being subordinated to religious and philosophical principles of “monism” (oneness or wholeness).</p>
<p>Duality instead has nothing to do with two different aspects of reality.  In contrast, it focuses on recognizing that a single, inseparable “monist” reality does almost always have two (or more) entirely separable “dual” descriptions.  It is the descriptions of reality that are dual — like two languages used to describe the same concept — and not the reality itself.</p>
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<p>In a way, duality was the key to the anomaly that sparked the entire quantum revolution in physics at the beginning of the 1900′s.  Light had been understood as electromagnetic waves since the work of James Maxwell, published in 1864.  The existence of such waves was a mathematically required consequence of the basic laws of electricity and magnetism that had been easily verified in the laboratory.</p>
<p>But as the 20th Century dawned, observations about light were beginning to pile up that could not be explained by any wave model.  Instead, depending <span style="text-decoration: underline">only</span> on the question an experiment tested, light seemed to betray either wave-like or particle-like behavior. Look for wave properties, and the experiment would find them; look for particle properties, and the experiment would find them instead. Even notions of everyday common sense would break down to maintain the insistence on light being both wave and particle.</p>
<p>Worse, when the wave experiments grew sophisticated enough to be applied to good-old-rock-solid matter, matter showed exactly the same stubborn insistence on being both particle and wave-like, too.  Everything in the material world turned out to exhibit the properties of these seemingly contradictory physical models.  Reality could not be so neatly compartmentalized according to the mental constructs humanity had available.</p>
<p>For a time, there was even a trendy word to describe things — “wavacle” — until people realized that giving something a new name didn’t mean we understood it any better.  Quantum mechanics, the science that developed out of these early shocks to our conceptual system, has only one reality.  But it can be described in at least two mathematical languages: the mathematical language of waves, and the mathematical language of “matrices”.</p>
<p>The languages were proven to be translatable from one to another before 1930, and so they must always make <em>exactly</em> the same predictions.  But the value in the notion of duality is that — just as some things are easy to say in German that are extraordinarily difficult to say in Japanese, and vice versa — the difficulty in making predictions in one description is easy for some situations, yet impossibly hard in the other description.  And in some other situation, the utility of the two descriptions is completely reversed.  Scientists needed two conceptually different languages to describe this one reality in which we live.</p>
<p>New examples of duality showed up with increasing frequency as people began to appreciate the explanatory power of the approach.  Some of the dualities that have been recognized are even more bizarre than the wave-particle duality.</p>
<p>Many of today’s best candidate theories for “quantum gravity” that would unite relativity and quantum mechanics into a “theory of everything” are collectively known as “string theory”.  They often have a property called “T-duality”.  In particular, T-dual theories predict that a universe, such as ours appears to be – of vast extent and expanding in size – is absolutely indistinguishable from an infinitesimally small universe which is shrinking toward nothingness. The laws of physics would dictate that exactly the same electrical and gravitational signals would enter our brains in either case.</p>
<p>If these string theories are correct, large and small are alternative languages to describe the same reality.  In fact, for all we can tell, we could all be living in an ultramicroscopic reality right now, with our brains arbitrarily choosing to interpret things so that the universe appears infinite in extent.</p>
<p>Then there’s the “holographic principle”. This idea seems to suggest that there are deep connections between modern information theory — the science that underlies telecommunications, including the internet — and the structure of spacetime itself. In addition to the way we describe reality, there appears to be an entirely <a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=sidebar-the-holographic-p"> equivalent way to describe it</a> using one less spatial dimension. There are even reports that an unexpected effect predicted by the second description has been seen in equipment accidentally optimized for its detection.</p>
<p>So duality is not going away from physics anytime soon, regardless of what the philosophers and theologians have to say about monism versus dualism. Might it be fruitful for the theologians to consider what the concept of duality has to add to their debate?</p>
<p>In a way, duality as the existence of multiple descriptions of a single reality, Jesus Christ – “fully man, yet fully God” — is almost too obvious within Christian history. Indeed, the connection between the Father and the Son, with the Holy Ghost thrown in as a third description for good measure, is another application ripe for exploration.</p>
<p>However, what I’d like to explore in this and future posts is the question of whether and where we can replace the notion of dualism between the physical and spiritual in Restoration theology with the notion of duality, so that we can begin to conceptualize the physical and spiritual realms not as separate arenas of reality, but as two translatable descriptions of a single all-encompassing reality.</p>
<p>If the physical and spiritual are governed by principles of duality, not dualism, then things we do on earth may not just affect what happens in heaven, they may actually be the things that happen in heaven, and vice versa.</p>
<p>For example, in LDS theology, certain significant acts are directly sealed &#8212; made spiritually real and binding &#8212; through covenants marked by rites, while in CofChrist theology, ordinances are viewed as helps in the physical realm for spiritual purposes. But what if reality is put together to be more than these options? What if every moment of life is inherently sealed into the spiritual realm? If every relationship we enhance here is enhanced there. If every relationship we marginalize here is <em>automatically</em> diminished there as surely as gravity drags us toward the earth?</p>
<p>And what, from the other perspective, if the spiritual is acting as well in an ever present way, to seal the purposes of God into the physical realm?</p>
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		<title>If They Tarry&#8230;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[D&#38;C 137 records a vision of Joseph Smith “in the temple at Kirtland, Ohio, January 21, 1836. HC 2: 380–381. The occasion was the administration of the ordinances of the endowment as far as they had then been revealed.” [Preface].  There are 2 important pieces of Mormon doctrine to consider here:  (1) baptism for the dead, and (2) children that die before the age of accountability (and baptism at age 8 ) will inherit the Celestial Kingdom.  Since it is a short section, let me quote it entirely.  This section is only in the LDS version of the D&#38;C, but other accounts of this revelation can be found in the History of the Church. 1 THE heavens were opened upon us, and I beheld the celestial kingdom of God, and the glory thereof, whether in the body or out I cannot tell. 2 I saw the transcendent beauty of the gate through which the heirs of that kingdom will enter, which was like unto circling flames of fire; 3 Also the blazing throne of God, whereon was seated the Father and the Son. 4 I saw the beautiful streets of that kingdom, which had the appearance of being paved with gold. 5 [...]]]></description>
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<p>D&amp;C 137 records a vision of Joseph Smith “in the temple at Kirtland, Ohio, January 21, 1836. HC 2: 380–381. The occasion was the administration of the ordinances of the endowment as far as they had then been revealed.” [Preface].  There are 2 important pieces of Mormon doctrine to consider here:  (1) baptism for the dead, and (2) children that die before the age of accountability (and baptism at age 8 ) will inherit the Celestial Kingdom.  Since it is a short section, let me quote it entirely.  This section is only in the LDS version of the D&amp;C, but other accounts of this revelation can be found in the History of the Church.<img title="More..." src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" /><span id="more-12537"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>1 THE heavens were opened upon us, and I beheld the celestial kingdom of God, and the glory thereof, whether in the body or out I cannot tell.</p>
<p>2 I saw the transcendent beauty of the gate through which the heirs of that kingdom will enter, which was like unto circling flames of fire;</p>
<p>3 Also the blazing throne of God, whereon was seated the Father and the Son.</p>
<p>4 I saw the beautiful streets of that kingdom, which had the appearance of being paved with gold.</p>
<p>5 I saw Father Adam and Abraham; and my father and my mother; my brother Alvin, that has long since slept;</p>
<p>6 And marveled how it was that he had obtained an inheritance in that kingdom, seeing that he had departed this life before the Lord had set his hand to gather Israel the second time, and had not been baptized for the remission of sins.</p>
<p>7 Thus came the voice of the Lord unto me, saying: All who have died without a knowledge of this gospel, who would have received it if they had been permitted to tarry, shall be heirs of the celestial kingdom of God;</p>
<p>8 Also all that shall die henceforth without a knowledge of it, who would have received it with all their hearts, shall be heirs of that kingdom;</p>
<p>9 For I, the Lord, will judge all men according to their works, according to the desire of their hearts.</p>
<p>10 And I also beheld that all children who die before they arrive at the years of accountability are saved in the celestial kingdom of heaven.</p></blockquote>
<p>Since God is the ultimate judge, and “who would have received it if they had been permitted to tarry, shall be heirs of the celestial kingdom of God “, the LDS baptize all and let God be the judge.  (I previously discussed <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/03/04/baptism-for-the-dead-so-what/">baptism for the dead from a non-LDS Irish writer</a>.)</p>
<p>So, this phrase “if they had been permitted to tarry”, got me thinking.  Following my mission, another guy about my age returned home.  I believe he got home on a Thursday and was slated to give his homecoming address on Sunday.  (I’ll call him Ted.)  He went out with some friends on Friday or Saturday night, and was involved in a serious car accident.  Sitting in the back seat, his car was t-boned at an intersection.  The woman sitting next to him was killed, and he received some fairly serious injuries, resulting in a delay of his homecoming address for about a month (which he gave standing on crutches.)</p>
<p>While it is probably a bit morbid to think about, a few people speculated that if he had been killed the day after his mission ended, he was probably very righteous and would have gone straight to the Celestial Kingdom.  After all, he was probably living more righteously at that point in his life than at any other time.</p>
<p>Ted went on to college on the east coast (I stayed in the west), he majored in art, I majored in math, and our paths really never crossed much.  I ran into his parents a few times, and they told me about his art exhibits, but neither one of us really made much of an effort to maintain contact.  Enter Facebook.  I noticed that he was friends with some of my friends, so I thought I would “friend” him and see what he was up to.  To my surprise, he had posted his letter of resignation from the LDS church.  There were many messages congratulating him for his courageous decision.</p>
<p>So, it got me thinking, what happens to those that perhaps died on a mission or similar circumstance, but “if they had been permitted to tarry”, they might have become wicked.  (I’m not saying Ted is wicked—I’m not the judge, but just saying, “what if”?)  Can we really be so certain of anyone’s final judgment?</p>
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		<title>Resolving the Conflict between the TBM and the ExMo</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today&#8217;s guest post comes from Ulysseus, a frequent commenter at Mormon Matters and elsewhere in the b&#8217;nacle.  His website can be found here. To take a line from Shakespeare &#8212; a pox upon both your houses. The Ex-Mos and TBMs continue to argue past each other and never the twain shall meet. While the thought of a kind, loving heavenly being comforts and then closes the ears of the believer, the list of inconsistencies, logical disconnects and &#8220;anti-Mormon&#8221; cliches assuages and then closes the ears of the non-believer. Unless you frame your debate, it will continue to be unproductive, each side creating their own echo chamber of reinforcement until the cacophony makes it impossible for anyone to hear what is going on. Here is where I would propose to take the discussion: How do you reconcile the conflicts? To quote this guy I once read, &#8220;By proving contraries, truth is made manifest.&#8221; Bonus points if you can tell me who said that. The discussion then moves from cliche and rote response to a value and factual discussion in an attempt to find common ground. For example: Blacks and the priesthood. The Word of God is for all of God&#8217;s children. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Today&#8217;s guest post comes from Ulysseus, a frequent commenter at Mormon Matters and elsewhere in the b&#8217;nacle.  His website can be found <a href="http://mormonroth.blogspot.com/">here</a>. </em></p>
<p>To take a line from Shakespeare &#8212; a pox upon both your houses.  The Ex-Mos and TBMs continue to argue past each other and never the twain shall meet. While the thought of a kind, loving heavenly being comforts and then closes the ears of the believer, the list of inconsistencies, logical disconnects and &#8220;anti-Mormon&#8221; cliches assuages and then closes the ears of the non-believer.<span id="more-12450"></span></p>
<p>Unless you frame your debate, it will continue to be unproductive, each side creating their own echo chamber of reinforcement until the cacophony makes it impossible for anyone to hear what is going on.</p>
<p>Here is where I would propose to take the discussion:  How do you reconcile the conflicts?   To quote this guy I once read, &#8220;By proving contraries, truth is made manifest.&#8221;   Bonus points if you can tell me who said that.  The discussion then moves from cliche and rote response to a value and factual discussion in an attempt to find common ground.</p>
<p>For example:  Blacks and the priesthood.  The Word of God is for all of God&#8217;s children.  You are punished for your own sins, not Adam&#8217;s transgressions (or Cain&#8217;s.)  Racism is a rampant cultural and historical phenomenon which prompted violent conflict between those who thought racism violated God&#8217;s law and those who believed their race was chosen by God to rule over the lesser beings (both sides used religion as the basis for their beliefs &#8212; one of those contraries Joseph was talking about.).</p>
<p>The argument came to a head in the spring of 1820 (bonus points if you know what else happened in the spring of 1820)  in the United States with a Missouri Compromise.  The Compromise held the Union together for about forty more years until war broke out, but the entire time temperatures were broiling on the race issue in the United States.  Northern (upper state New York) abolitionist leaning religions moving south into Missouri and southern Illinois were not well received.</p>
<p>Not surprising that depending on your viewpoint the ban on blacks holding the priesthood came from:<br />
a) false doctrine;<br />
b) the human capacity for self-deception while striving for self-preservation;<br />
c) individual racism of some church leaders;<br />
d) conforming to the current societal norms; or<br />
e) some other reason arising out of the factual scenario.</p>
<p>The anti- and the pro- both believe that the whole racism thing was a bad idea, they just get there different ways.  Conflict resolved, sort of.</p>
<p>So who is right?  How should we define, the capital T, &#8220;Truth&#8221;?  I&#8217;m going to come clean right now &#8212; I&#8217;m in the Joseph Smith camp on this one, at least for how to determine Truth.  The reason I&#8217;m in the Joseph Smith camp is that he is also in the  historical philosophical tradition of the American Enlightenment and the scientific method and he made one of the first attempts to apply that philosophy to religious thought.   Joseph Smith also had a strong sense of American individualism &#8212; study it out and figure it out for yourself.   How he succeeded can be argued, but I love the empirical, scientific approach to religion.  (To avoid numerous digressions into atheism, geology, cosmology and science, I&#8217;m only talking in this post about applying an empirical, scientific approach to internal subjective experience.)</p>
<p>The scientific method gives us a mechanism for creating hierarchal judgments on different hypotheses &#8212; the hypothesis that is the most consistent with all the data is the most correct, the most true hypothesis.</p>
<p>Another way of saying this is Truth is inclusive.  If you draw lines that exclude, you don&#8217;t have the Truth, you&#8217;ve left something out.</p>
<p>Joseph Smith believed this and it shows in his theology, for example eternal progression and baptism for the dead.  He wanted everything included and this is a huge comfort point for believers.  It leads to a Mormon mother&#8217;s common belief that a non-believing child can eventually end up  in the temple and end up included, despite the past.  What a comfort that must be to her, based on her own world view.</p>
<p>So I am looking at TBM&#8217;s hypothesis which says  &#8220;my view is right because it is more inclusive, God&#8217;s plan provides eternal salvation for all mankind, even Ex-Mos.&#8221;</p>
<p>The conflicting Ex-Mo hypothesis is &#8220;my view is right because the reality and data coming out of the religion is that the religion does exactly the opposite of include all mankind, it excludes everyone except the elect.&#8221;</p>
<p>So there are the two contraries, how do we manifest Truth.  In the spirit of Johnathan Swift, let me make a modest proposal:  Eat the children to stop the famine (sorry literary joke that I couldn&#8217;t resist).</p>
<p>Seriously, the TBM&#8217;s hypothesis fails because despite the efforts of the Church at inclusion theologically, the reality is countless people feel excluded and some are even forced to be excluded by a process known as excommunication.  Just makes the whole &#8220;one heart, one mind&#8221; thing seem a little narrow and false.</p>
<p>The counter hypothesis and its proponents equally fail because it fails to include the large group who devoutly believes.  This makes it equally weak and equally vulnerable to attack by those believers.</p>
<p>My proposed hypothesis, neither of you are correct.  I&#8217;ve studied it out.  Thought about it.  Prayed about it.  I came up with the answer that neither of you were true. (Told you I was in the Joseph Smith camp).</p>
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		<title>Rules, Principles, Seeds &amp; Shells, Part I</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I sometimes wonder where the 32nd chapter of Alma would rank in a list of most iconic scriptures in the entire Book of Mormon. It comes up frequently in discussions, so I have plenty of times to revisit it. I think the reason for this is that it introduces a powerful image that &#8212; in every sense of the word &#8212; is planted within the mind&#8230;and sprouts.﻿ And so we start&#8230;with a single small seed. The seed is a versatile image and metaphor because it is the start of everything: the start of every life; the start of every endeavor; the start of every idea. The start of every being and the start of every becoming. The 32nd chapter of Alma talks about the Word being a seed, and from there we learn just what we can expect from a single seed. [Story 1] The Word is a seed that we must take the chance to plant first, and which, hopefully, if we do plant it, will germinate, sprout and grow, enlarging our souls and enlightening our minds. In my last post, commenter st1305 wrote that there cannot be faith in a false idea, because faith is not simply belief. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sometimes wonder where the 32nd chapter of Alma would rank in a list of most iconic scriptures in the entire Book of Mormon. It comes up frequently in discussions, so I have plenty of times to revisit it. I think the reason for this is that it <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/alma/32/28-35#28">introduces a powerful image that</a> &#8212; in every sense of the word &#8212; is planted within the mind&#8230;and sprouts.﻿ And so we start&#8230;with a single small seed.</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><img class="aligncenter" src="http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/organic-farming-5.jpg" alt="single seed" width="280" height="210" /></p>
<p>The seed is a versatile image and metaphor because it is the start of everything: the start of every life; the start of every endeavor; the start of every idea. The start of every being and the start of every becoming. The 32nd chapter of Alma talks about <strong>the Word</strong> being a seed, and from there we learn just what we can expect from a single seed.<span id="more-12321"></span></p>
<h4>[Story 1]</h4>
<p>The Word is a seed that we must take the chance to plant first, and which, hopefully, if we do plant it, will germinate, sprout and grow, enlarging our souls and enlightening our minds.</p>
<p>In my <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/07/24/doubting-my-doubts/">last post,</a> commenter st1305 wrote that there cannot be <em>faith</em> in a <em>false idea</em>, because faith is not simply belief. Faith, instead, is the application of a belief that enlarges the soul and enlightens the mind, as Alma 32: 34 and 35 also describe. A false idea, he argued, would not enlarge the soul and enlighten the mind. What <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/07/24/doubting-my-doubts/#comment-142662">st1305 wrote</a> was interesting:</p>
<blockquote><p>This is true for all of the other principles that I apply in my life –  chastity, honesty, integrity, temple work, missionary work and a host of  other principles in my faith. I know they are true as I have applied  them and I see the fruits and they are good.</p></blockquote>
<p>I saw a distinction between the ideas that st1305 was raising, however. <em>Principles</em> like honesty, integrity and service differ from ones like temple work or tithing in that the former are universal and general, but the latter are specific and particular implementations as found within the church. In some cases, they are <em>rules</em> that at best seek to capture a more general <em>principle</em>.</p>
<p>The LDS church does not have any sort of exclusive claim on a principle like chastity, even if they do have claims to particular stipulations of the <em>law of</em> chastity. But from here is the first question&#8230;what is it that enlarges our soul and enlightens our mind? The rule&#8230;or the principle?</p>
<p>I believe it is the principle. When we lose sight of the principles for rules, then our faith becomes Pharisaical. Hollow.</p>
<p>A dangerous new thought sprouted forth: wouldn&#8217;t we do best to focus on principles without relying so much on rules?</p>
<h4>[/Story 1]</h4>
<p>Any day now, America will (if the adoption date ever stops pushing back) migrate away from the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) that we have historically used to International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRS).</p>
<p>Supporters of IFRS argue that the change will increase comparability of financial statements &#8212; instead of comparing apples to oranges, we&#8217;ll all be comparing oranges. In addition, since IFRS is more <em>principles</em>-based, IFRS will not encourage abuse of the brightline rules that US GAAP has.</p>
<p>Let me try to explain the difference using a non-accounting example.</p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/speed-limit-40-sign.png"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-12322" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/speed-limit-40-sign.png" alt="Speed Limit 40" width="231" height="309" /></a></p>
<h4>[Story 2]</h4>
<p>When we drive, we operate under a basic principle: we want our driving experience to be safe. To satisfy this principle, we develop certain rules, such as the speed limit.</p>
<p>US GAAP sets clear and easy-to-understand (that is, &#8220;bright line&#8221;) speed limits with directly measurable values. A 40 mile per hour speed limit gives everyone a clear boundary &#8212; you can be ticketed for going over 40. Some cops may allow some higher speeds to slide, <em>but</em> if you get caught, the rules are clear.</p>
<p>Everyone is <em>justified</em> to go up to 40 mph, and can do so whenever possible with legal protection.</p>
<p>What could be bad about this? How could this <em>possibly</em> be abused? 40 miles per hour isn&#8217;t even <em>that</em> fast&#8230;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say that the speed limit is the ultimate rule for speed and you are driving in <em>terrible weather</em>. In this case, couldn&#8217;t you see how a simple, clear-cut rule could backfire and fail to establish our principle (and principal) goal of maintaining safety?</p>
<p>&#8230;Yet, creating exceptions for every occurrence would just create a tremendous driver&#8217;s manual (not to mention street signs!) In the case of accounting scandals, it wouldn&#8217;t even work to <em>prevent</em> frauds <em>before</em> they are perpetuated. New rules always are a step behind the crooks.</p>
<p>So what if instead we had no bright line speed limit numbers, but instead we were given the principle, &#8220;Drive safely given the environment&#8221;? This extreme case highlights the allure of IFRS.</p>
<p>Drivers wouldn&#8217;t have a rule to which they could hug close. However, rule enforcers also wouldn&#8217;t have a rule to which they could hug close. If a police officer disagreed with you on the optimally safe speed, you would have no bright line precedent of speed limit to back up <em>your</em> case.</p>
<p>In accounting, we have a bit of a different issue. Normally, in a court, you don&#8217;t easily win against a police officer. However, in a court, groups <em>can</em> win against the auditor. Additionally, auditors are hired <em>by the firms they audit</em>, so they have (at least) two incentives: 1) to make sure their clients stay in business and 2) to make decisions that are less likely to be challenged in courts. With clear-cut rules, the audit firm can at least defend its decisions both to clients and juries by saying, &#8220;We play according to the rules.&#8221; But without clear-cut rules, the courts do not have clear-cut rules with which to crucify (or protect), and auditors do not have the mechanism to challenge more fiscally aggressive clients.</p>
<p>So the big push <em>against</em> principles-based accounting is that it too does not prevent against fraud but instead gives ne&#8217;er-do-well executives even <strong>greater</strong> flexibility to report financial information aggressively. Ne&#8217;er-do-well execs can argue that really, 80 miles per hour is always safe, no matter the road conditions. In addition, supporters of GAAP note that the P in GAAP already <em>is</em> &#8220;principles,&#8221; and a balance of clear rules and principles (like the balance of speed limits <em>with</em> principles of safety in less-ideal conditions) is best.</p>
<h4>[/Story 2]</h4>
<h4>[Synthesis]</h4>
<p>When I thought about the audit and accounting example, I began to realize that the <strong>rules</strong> are valuable for inculcating the <strong>principles</strong>. Sure, sometimes they can be abused (our rules-based accounting did <em>not</em> prevent Enron, and in the aftermath, some <a href="http://www.bowne.com/securitiesconnect/details.asp?storyID=860">research has suggested</a> that technically, no violations of GAAP or auditing standards took place. Enron simply worked <em>creatively</em> and <em>aggressively</em> within the <em>legal boundaries</em>), but in this case we need to balance re-tweak rules for the sake of the principles, not eliminate one or the other.</p>
<h4>[/Synthesis]</h4>
<p>The next thing I thought about, as a result of thinking about accounting standards, is the fact that there are many sets of accounting standards seeking after the same principles. What comparison can we make with <em>seeds</em> and the Word? You&#8217;ll have to stay tuned for next week&#8217;s entry!</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I mentioned previously, I really enjoyed the Strangite session of the Mormon History Association meetings a few weeks ago.  Vickie Speek, John Hamer, and Mike Karpowicz gave some fascinating presentations on this little known group.  Following the session, they answered additional questions, and I thought it would be interesting to provide a transcript of the Q&#38;A session.  But before I get into the transcript, I should tell you a brief history of the Strangite Church. James Strang, prophet of the Strangite Church James Strang was baptized into the church just a few months before Joseph Smith was killed in 1844.  He said he had a letter from Joseph proclaiming that Strang was to lead the church.  The letter is currently owned by Yale University; in the past few decades, they have declared Joseph Smith&#8217;s signature on the letter a forgery. Evidently Strang was a dynamic leader.  His church (officially known with slightly different punctuation as the Utah church: the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints [no hyphen, different capitalization]) rivaled the Brigham Young movement in size.  They had some well known converts too:  Martin Harris, William Smith (Joseph&#8217;s brother), William Cowdery (Oliver&#8217;s father), William Marks (stake president in Nauvoo), William [...]]]></description>
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<p>As <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2010/05/30/day-3-at-mha/">I mentioned previously</a>, I really enjoyed the Strangite session of the Mormon History Association meetings a few weeks ago.  Vickie Speek, John Hamer, and Mike Karpowicz gave some fascinating presentations on this little known group.  Following the session, they answered additional questions, and I thought it would be interesting to provide a transcript of the Q&amp;A session.  But before I get into the transcript, I should tell you a brief history of the Strangite Church.</p>
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<p><span id="more-12051"></span>James Strang was baptized into the church just a few months before Joseph Smith was killed in 1844.  He said he had a letter from Joseph proclaiming that Strang was to lead the church.  The letter is currently owned by Yale University; in the past few decades, they have declared Joseph Smith&#8217;s signature on the letter a forgery.</p>
<p>Evidently Strang was a dynamic leader.  <img title="More..." src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" />His church (officially known with slightly different punctuation as the Utah church: the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints [no hyphen, different capitalization]) rivaled the Brigham Young movement in size.  They had some well known converts too:  Martin Harris, William Smith (Joseph&#8217;s brother), William Cowdery (Oliver&#8217;s father), William Marks (stake president in Nauvoo), William McLellin (former apostle), Hiram Page, and some of the Whitmer brothers.</p>
<p>Strang claimed an angel visited him, appointing him as prophet.  As part of his calling, he translated the Brass Plates into a book of scripture called &#8220;The Book of the Law of the Lord&#8221; written by Moses, and in Laban&#8217;s possession.  Originally against polygamy, Strang translated the book (first published in 1851), which said polygamy was a godly commandment.</p>
<p>Strang originally moved his followers to Voree, Wisconsin, and then received another revelation to move to Beaver Island, Michigan.  He crowned himself king, and was assassinated there by disgruntled followers.  The Strangites still exist today.  The have a few hundred members in Kansas, New Mexico, Colorado, and Wisconsin.  <a href="http://strangite.org/" target="_blank">Here is a website from a Strangite follower</a>.  (It contains an online version of the Book of the Law of the Lord.)  John Hamer says the <a href="http://www.churchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaintsstrangite.com/" target="_blank">official website for the church is found here</a>.</p>
<p>Independent historian Vickie Speek, John Hamer &amp; Mike Karpowicz of <a href="http://johnwhitmerbooks.com/">John Whitmer Books</a>, and Bill Russell of <a href="http://graceland.edu" target="_blank">Graceland University</a> (the CoC version of BYU) answered a few questions following their presentation on the past 160 years of Strangite history.</p>
<blockquote><p>Newell Bringhurst, “I found it very enlightening too, but the one area I wanted to hear a little bit more about was the core teachings, the liturgy.  Did you get a sense, particularly John and Mike?  [Vickie] You went into the Law of the Lord in your paper and those tenets and teachings, but what core teachings were perpetuated to the make things that give them an identity as far as their Mormonism or moving beyond or in a different direction in terms of their Mormon teachings that we would identify with as Mormons, from a Latter-Day Saint tradition?”</p>
<p>John Hamer, “I identified in my paper that there is a remarkable continuity.  When we first looked into this, we weren’t sure how this church that had been on Beaver Island and in Wisconsin, how did it end up being in New Mexico?  So we wondered, ‘is this a Neo-Strangite Church?  Is this a bunch of people who got converted and started calling themselves Strangites that don’t have any actual continuity?’  But we found in the course of looking through the records&#8211;we had incredible access to all the church’s records, we interviewed a dozen of the oldest members of the church, the branch records going all the way back to the 19th century are all kept in the vaults and all maintained—there is a remarkable continuity of practice and teaching that occurs because these Beaver Island members taught this new generation.  The practices remain and all sorts of things remain.</p>
<p>Some of the things we mentioned were sealing—sealing continues to be done, so that is unusual for Midwestern Mormons for example.  Most of the other branches other than the Cutlerites don’t do that.  You don’t have that in the Community of Christ.  It’s not in the Hedrickites.  They’re sealed for time and all eternity.  This idea of adopting into a noble and a princely household, these kingdom powers—that was being done all the way up through the [19]60’s, especially members of the Flanders clan were sealed, adopting into this Ketchum household that they were intermarried with in the 19th century, but essentially had forgotten that they were inter-married with.  This was more or less forgotten.  Some of this history has been recovered from the records, this connection between Joseph Ketchum and Granny Flanders.  Remember that Granny Flanders was this matriarch who had done this.</p>
<p>I would just say there are an incredible number of practices, there are all kinds of Strangite practices.  The Book of the Law of the Lord is integral as scripture.  It is read.  The Voree Branch are 7th day Sabbath-tarians—that’s Strangite practice.  The Laws of Sacrifice so they would sacrifice first fruits so again a lot of Strangite practice, because they had a second prophet, there’s all sorts of things that they have that other branches don’t have.  So I think the continuity is actually remarkable and the amount of practice and preservation is remarkable.  There are just a few things that fall out, because they don’t have the top priesthood offices.  So some things they don’t feel are valid to do.  One of those is plural marriages for example, they’re not done.</p>
<p>Vickie Speek, “There’s something we didn’t mention is the fact that according to Strangite belief, the lesser cannot ordain the higher. So they’ve lost their prophet, they’ve lost their priesthood, because only God can make a prophet.  Man can’t.  Man can’t make another prophet, so when James Strang died, the prophet died.</p>
<p>John Hamer, “It’s simply invalid for a teacher to ordain a priest.  Likewise, you cannot have an apostle ordain a prophet.  So that’s why Joseph [Smith] III’s ordination is invalid.  William Marks, as great of priesthood or whatever as he had is not a prophet, he cannot ordain a prophet.  Likewise Brigham Young, the other apostles that ordain him—that’s simply invalid in Strangite view, because the lesser cannot ordain the greater.</p>
<p>Newell Bringhurst, “So then the highest priesthood office then is a high priest, is that correct?”</p>
<p>Hamer, “Yes, High Priest.”</p>
<p>Bill Russell, “Since prophets die, and  Joseph was killed, then how are you going to have a successor to Joseph?”</p>
<p>Hamer, “Angelic ordination.”</p>
<p>??? “Just the way Strang was ordained.”</p>
<p>Vickie, “James Strang could have, under the direction of God, laid his hands and ordained somebody before he passed, but he did not.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hts.gatech.edu/faculty/foster-lawrence.php" target="_blank">Larry Foster</a>, “I also commend the excellent papers.  I had a couple questions more to Vickie, and maybe I missed part of it, or maybe it was answered elsewhere.  On the Book of the Law of the Lord, that’s an extremely impressive book I think.  I looked at it, but the 1856 edition is much bigger than the original book which is only about 50 pages?  A lot of the best stuff in the 1856 edition is these extended explanatory notes, I don’t know if polygamy is in the original text of the edition, or is it part of that explanatory notes stuff that extends the length of the book so much?</p>
<p>The other question I had was an inevitable question about Strang—what does one make of him?  He didn’t ordain a successor even though he was alive for several weeks after he was shot fatally.  Going back, how does polygamy get in there?  How about John C. Bennett?  It seems like John C. Bennett is right there at the heart of Nauvoo polygamy and Strangite polygamy and it seems like he was equally destructive in both contexts.  [audience chuckles]</p>
<p>I also wondered, I read one of Strang’s articles.  Golly, he could sure write.  He almost convinced me that polygamy was a great thing to liberate women.  [audience chuckles]  It gives them all kinds of choices they don’t have and they’re not stuck with a bunch of dodos.  It would appear, and I’ve been criticized by one of the Strangites for saying this, that certainly his letter of appointment was a forgery, that it seems to reflect his own diary.  It is block printed, the name has no relationship to Joseph Smith.”</p>
<p>Bill Russell, “We talked about his appointment at the beginning.”</p>
<p>Foster, “Oh you did.  There’s a pretty clear cut case of forgery, or maybe did you find some other approach?”</p>
<p>Vickie, “The way that I have looked at it.  When I wrote my book about the Strangites, I approached it basically as a newspaper reporter.  I was not going to take a position either way, I was just going to tell the story.  Because to me, it doesn’t matter to me what my opinion of James Strang was, but I was doing the story of the people who believed him, so that’s the way I wrote my book, and that’s the way I still basically look at it.  I have a tremendous amount of respect for the people who followed James Strang, and the Strangites of today, because their [road] is not the main road.  Theirs has been a very hard, hard road with a lot of heartache.</p>
<p>Now I would like to make one comment.  As far as I know, there is only a few copies of the 1851 Book of the Law, and there is somebody here who is familiar with the 1851 Book of the Law, and I’d like to ask him if there is polygamy in it?”</p>
<p>John Hajicek, “Yeah, there is.”</p>
<p>Vickie, “It’s basically the same thing?”</p>
<p>Hamer, “It’s in the main text, right?  In other words, it just lacks the commentary, so it has the text, it just doesn’t explain it, right?”</p>
<p>John Hajicek, “Are you guys asking me?”  [audience chuckles]  “Yeah, I have an 1851 Book of the Law and it’s an 80 page preliminary version.  It was published as a pamphlet with colored, printed wrappers on it.  It doesn’t have the explanatory notes.  It has 95% of the sections.  He continued to translate some additional sections.  There are some interesting differences.  For example, the first edition doesn’t have a chapter on baptism for the dead, and Strang includes his earlier 1849 revelation on baptism for the dead instead, and then has a footnote that says baptism for the dead evidently didn’t exist in the Old Testament.  Later he translates a chapter after on baptism from this Mosaic period, allegedly Mosaic period record.  So his own views changed.  But on polygamy he didn’t change.  The laws on the number of wives a king could have and things like that are all in that first edition.”</p>
<p>Bill Russell, “That 1851 edition does have that you say?”</p>
<p>John Hajicek, “Right.</p>
<p>Mike, “Bill, is my assumption correct that with the assassination of Strang, that the tensions between the Strangites and the state and federal government kind of dissipated at that point.  It is interesting to me that whereas the army had a relationship with the Utah church for quite a while, Strang was shot virtually under the guns of the USS Michigan, a naval vessel on the Great Lakes.  I don’t know what the reports that were filed by the state of Michagan were, and how they were considered when they got back to Washington to the Navy Department in the Pierce administration, but were the tensions with the state governments of in Michigan and Wisconsin and federal government dissipated after the assassination?”</p>
<p>Hamer, “Yeah, because they also got expelled.  They picked up all the members.  They spoiled them of all their property.  They put them on rented boats and they dropped them off all along the coast line destitute in little tiny groups.  So it was the worst kind of persecution results than any other Mormons faced.”</p>
<p>Mike, “Did the navy play a part in that or was it all surveyance from Mackinaw City?”</p>
<p>Vickie, “There is no positive evidence.  However, you take all the circumstantial evidence together, and I say yes.”</p>
<p>Hamer, “Not in the dropping off of the people.”</p>
<p>Vickie, “Not in the dropping off of people, no.”</p>
<p>Hamer, “But like Mike said, the warship is there in the murder.”</p>
<p>Mike, “Does the USS Michigan ferry people from Mackinaw City to St. James as part of the mob?”</p>
<p>Hamer, “Yes.”</p>
<p>Vickie, “As part of the Mob?”</p>
<p>Mike, “Yes”</p>
<p>Vickie, “I don’t believe it was the Michigan.  There were 2 ships in Michigan.  There was a steamer and there was a warship.”</p>
<p>Mike, “I’m asking about the USS Michigan, the warship.”</p>
<p>Vickie, “I don’t know.”</p>
<p>Hamer, “Right, The warship left the dock though.”</p>
<p>Vickie, “Right, it left the dock when Strang was murdered and the murderers jumped on the ship and then left.”</p>
<p>Mike, “2 guys jumped on the ship.”</p>
<p>Vickie and Hamer, “Right.”</p>
<p>Mike, “They left on the USS Michigan?”</p>
<p>Vickie and Hamer, “Yes”.</p>
<p>Mike, “It’s an interesting parallel with the 2 churches: one with the army involved, and the other with the navy.” [audience chuckles]</p>
<p>Vickie, “I think the conflict was gone, because the Strangites were gone, they were scattered.”</p>
<p>Mike, “and the polygamy issue kind of faded away, then?”</p>
<p>Vickie, “Right.”</p>
<p>William Russell, “Here’s a question right here, and then our time is expired so maybe this should be our last one.”</p>
<p>Woman, “Why did they kill James Strang?”</p>
<p>Vickie, “That’s a good question.  Basically, people had become disillusioned with Strang.  Strang was caught trying to follow the Book of the Law and one of the tenets of the church is no alcohol, and basically the Strangites didn’t allow alcohol and they did not support the sale of alcohol to the Native Americans and there was a lot of conflict with the gentiles, and so forth who wanted to sell alcohol.  Strangites became thirsty and they left the fold for other reasons, and those are the ones that basically were in the conspiracy to kill Strang.”</p>
<p>Hamer, “That’s one of them.  That’s on ongoing conflict.  Whenever Mormons gather together in big numbers and took political control and things like that, they would have conflict with their neighbors.  There are all kinds of problems that result from that including the 2 groups don’t trust each other, they don’t feel they can get justice from each other.  The other Americans see Mormons gathering under one prophet as being un-American.  There’s a lot of tendency to go and kill that prophet.”</p>
<p>Bill Russell, “One other thing though, he did serve 1 term in the Michigan legislature.”</p>
<p>Hamer, “Two terms.”</p>
<p>Russell, “Well 2 years I think is all.  But anyway, he was considered very effective according to the Detroit Free Press.  It’s interesting that a prophet and king could be elected to the Michigan legislature and get along well.” [audience chuckles]  He was also a member of the farms.  Well thank you very much, this was an excellent session.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Like I said, it was a fascinating question.  I&#8217;ve invited John Hamer and a few others to entertain questions if you have any.  Do you have any questions for them?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Covenant Theological Seminary is a Presbyterian Seminary.  They have online courses that you can listen to for free!  If you pay tuition, you can get a Master of Divinity Degree online.  I have found the podcasts incredibly interesting. I&#8217;ve learned some interesting concepts from class on Ancient and Medieval Church History.  Session #23 discusses Eastern Orthodoxy.  First, let&#8217;s have a little background.  The Eastern Orthodox Church officially split with the Catholic Church in 1054.  The Pope excommunicated the Patriarch in Constantinople, so the Patriarch did the same to the Pope.  There had been some different emphasis on theology for quite some time.  For example, while the Catholic Church claimed that the Pope held all the leadership, the Orthodox Church held a much less central authority.  The Orthodox belief of revelation is that God speaks through these councils, not one central person. There were seven early councils (such as the Nicene Council.) These edicts of these councils are usually considered scripture in the Orthodox church.  The various Orthodox churches (Russian, Greek, etc) are quite a bit more autonomous.  The Orthodox church even holds out that there could one day be an American Orthodox church, if membership warrants such an organization. Even [...]]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve learned some interesting concepts from class on Ancient and Medieval Church History.  Session #23 discusses Eastern  Orthodoxy.  First, let&#8217;s have a  little background.  The Eastern Orthodox Church officially split with the Catholic Church  in 1054.  The Pope excommunicated the Patriarch in Constantinople, so  the Patriarch did the same to the Pope.  There had been some different  emphasis on theology for quite some time.  For example, while the  Catholic Church claimed that the Pope held all the leadership, the  Orthodox Church held a much less central authority.  The Orthodox belief  of revelation is that God speaks through these councils, not one  central person.</p>
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<p><span id="more-11935"></span>There were seven early councils (such as the Nicene Council.) These  edicts of these councils are usually considered scripture in the  Orthodox church.  The various Orthodox churches (Russian, Greek, etc)  are quite a bit more autonomous.  The Orthodox church even holds out  that there could one day be an American Orthodox church, if membership  warrants such an organization.</p>
<p>Even before the official split, there were many tensions between Rome  and Constantinople.  In the podcast, the teacher refers to Rome as the  &#8220;Western&#8221; church, and Constantinople as the &#8220;Eastern&#8221; church.  The  western church spoke mostly Latin, while the eastern church spoke mostly  Greek.  In the West, the church had an emphasis on:</p>
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<li>Sin</li>
<li>Grace</li>
<li>Justification</li>
<li>Salvation</li>
<li>Sacraments</li>
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<p>The eastern church agrees, but has a larger emphasis on:</p>
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<li>Apophaticism &#8211; an emphasis on the mystery of God.</li>
<li>Tradition</li>
<li>Theosis</li>
<li>Icons</li>
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<p>I&#8217;d like to talk about Theosis.  Theosis is a greek word meaning  Deification, as in the deification of humanity.  Unfortunately, I do not  know the name of the teacher, but anyone can download the podcast to  hear him directly.  I&#8217;d like to quote the teacher directly.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;[Theosis] is the word that really sums up salvation.  In  the West, we talk about sin and justification as a way of understanding  salvation.  In the East, the emphasis is on theosis or deification.  We  are changed so that we become like God, or Eastern theologians will say  it even more strongly than that.  As Athanasius put it, &#8216;God became  man, that man might become God.&#8217;  That&#8217;s theosis, or deification.</p>
<p>Well, that strikes the western mind as kind of a problematic way to  understand theology and to understand the transforming effect of grace.   The eastern mind though sees that as the real purpose of Christ coming  into the world, to transform us that we become like him.  In some ways,  we can see that if we&#8217;re talking about union with Christ, or becoming  more and more like Christ or becoming more and more like God.  But in  the eastern expression of theosis, it is stated so strongly that Christ  became man, that we might become God that most western thinkers pull  back from that.  It sounds like a kind of heresy of some sort.  I expect  closer examination of the eastern idea of theosis, will reveal that the  eastern theology doesn&#8217;t for the most part, go over the line, but it  uses language that can be suggested of something that western Christians  would want to avoid.</p>
<p>The people in the west that pick up this same idea are the mystics,  and in the west, they were constantly accused of pantheism.  Because, to  the western mind, this kind of language, and this kind of expression  goes too far because it tends to blur the distinction between God and  his creation.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I decided to look up theosis on Wikipedia, and found this interesting  quote from St Ireneaus (who lived 130-202 AD.)  He is considered a  saint in both the Catholic and Orthodox churches.  &#8220;<em><a title="St. Irenaeus" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Irenaeus">St. Irenaeus</a> explained this concept in </em><em><a title="On the Detection and  Overthrow of the So-Called Gnosis" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Detection_and_Overthrow_of_the_So-Called_Gnosis">Against  Heresies</a>, Book 5, in the <a title="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103500.htm" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103500.htm">Preface</a>,  &#8220;the Word of God, our Lord Jesus Christ, who did, through His  transcendent love, become what we are, that He might bring us to be even  what He is Himself.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>It seems to me that mormons have much in common with this idea of  theosis.  This sounds quite similar to Lorenzo Snow&#8217;s quote, <strong>&#8220;As man  now is, God once was; as God now is, man may be.&#8221; </strong>Comments?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always thought the United Order and Consecration were the same thing.  I&#8217;ve been reading a book called Great Basin Kingdom by Leonard Arrington (former church historian) and learned they are actually different.  The basic difference to me seems to be that with Consecration, one gave all they owned to the church, and then were given back &#8220;what they needed.&#8221;  With the United Order, it seems to have originated out of various economic cooperatives established to give fair, reasonable prices and jobs to the Mormons.  In some cases, saints could choose to consecrate all their possessions to the United Order, but usually it worked more in an economic cooperative, where fair prices were established for Mormons.  If they sold to gentiles, often the gentiles paid more. The United Order movement was an extension of cooperatives.  These cooperatives began principally around 1868-1884, and were set up as a response to how current trading was accomplished.  In chapter 10 (page 193-194), Arrington says, Structurally, most Mormon &#8220;cooperatives&#8221; were nothing more than joint-stock corporations, organized under the sponsorship of the church, with a broad basis of public ownership and support.  Functionally, however, most Mormon cooperatives appear to have been motivated principally by welfare rather [...]]]></description>
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<p>I always thought the United Order and Consecration were the same thing.  I&#8217;ve been reading a book called <a href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1280015.Great_Basin_Kingdom_An_Economic_History_of_the_Latter_day_Saints_1830_1900_New_Edition">Great Basin Kingdom</a> by Leonard Arrington (former church historian) and learned they are actually different.  The basic difference to me seems to be that with Consecration, one gave all they owned to the church, and then were given back &#8220;what they needed.&#8221;  With the United Order, it seems to have originated out of various economic cooperatives established to give fair, reasonable prices and jobs to the Mormons.  In some cases, saints could choose to consecrate all their possessions to the United Order, but usually it worked more in an economic cooperative, where fair prices were established for Mormons.  If they sold to gentiles, often the gentiles paid more.</p>
<p><img title="More..." src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" />The United Order movement was an extension of cooperatives.  These cooperatives began principally around 1868-1884, and were set up as a response to how current trading was accomplished.  In chapter 10 (page 193-194), Arrington says,<span id="more-11680"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>Structurally, most Mormon &#8220;cooperatives&#8221; were nothing more than joint-stock corporations, organized under the sponsorship of the church, with a broad basis of public ownership and support.  Functionally, however, most Mormon cooperatives appear to have been motivated principally by welfare rather than profit; patronage was an act of religious loyalty; the church participated  in the organization, operation, and financing of most o the important establishments; and the whole cooperative movement was permeated with an unmistakable pietistic zeal and feeling of religious obligation&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;most merchandising was in the hands of non-Mormons because of the stigma attached to &#8220;profiteering Saints,&#8221; and because of the inability of Mormon traders to refuse credit to their &#8220;brethren&#8221; and force payment of debts.</p></blockquote>
<p>There was an interesting quote from Brigham Young explaining why Consecration didn&#8217;t work under Joseph Smith, and also why Joseph wasn&#8217;t a good, successful merchant.  From page  83,</p>
<blockquote><p>Let me give you a few reasons&#8230;why Joseph [that is the church] could not keep a store and be a merchant&#8230;.Joseph goes to New York and buys 20,000 dollars&#8217; worth of goods, comes into Kirtland and commences to trade.  In comes one of the brethren, &#8220;Brother Joseph, let me have a frock pattern for my wife.&#8221;  What if Joseph says, &#8220;No, I cannot without the money.&#8221;  The consequence would be, &#8220;He is no Prophet.&#8221;&#8230;Pretty soon Thomas walks in.  &#8220;Brother Joseph, will you trust me for a pair of boots?&#8221;  &#8220;No, I cannot let them go without the money.&#8221;  &#8220;Well,&#8221; says Thomas, &#8220;Brother Joseph is not Prophet; I have found <span style="text-decoration: underline;">that</span> out, and I am glad of it.&#8221;  After a while, in comes Bill and sister Susan.  Says Bill, &#8220;Brother Joseph, I want a shawl, I have not got the money, but I wish you to trust me a week or a fortnight.&#8221;  Well, brother Joseph thinks the others have gone an apostatized, and he didn&#8217;t know but these goods will make the whole Church do the same, so he lets Bill have a shawl.  Bill walks off with it and meets a brother.  &#8220;Well,&#8221; says he, &#8220;what do you think of brother Joseph?&#8221;  &#8220;O he is a first-rate man, and I fully believe he is a Prophet.  See here, he has trusted me this shawl.&#8221;  Richard says, &#8220;I think I will go down and see if he won&#8217;t trust me some.&#8221;  In walks Richard.  &#8220;Brother Joseph, I want to trade about 20 dollars.&#8221;  &#8220;Well,&#8221; says Joseph, &#8220;these goods will make the people apostatize; so over they go , they are of less value than the people.&#8221;  Richard gets his goods.  Another comes in the same way to make a trade of 25 dollars, and so it goes.  Joseph was a first-rate fellow with them all the time, provided he never would ask them to pay him.&#8221;  [sermon of October 9, 1851, JD, 1, 214-216]</p></blockquote>
<p>Cooperatives turned out to be a real success, and there were several different implementations of them. Chapter 11 of the book gives some real interesting background as to these cooperatives turned into United Orders, as well as the different kinds of United Orders formed in Utah.  The nationwide Panic of 1873 affected economies in Utah as well as nationwide.  From page 323,</p>
<blockquote><p>This co-operative movement,&#8221; said Brigham Young in 1869, &#8220;is only a stepping stone to what is called the Order of Enoch, but which is in reality the order of Heaven.&#8221; [See Brigham Young sermons in JH, October 6, 1850, October 8, 1855]  In 1869 and succeeding years, sermon after sermon played upon the theme to unify and the necessity of extending the principle of cooperation to every phase of life.</p></blockquote>
<p>From page 324,</p>
<blockquote><p>The resources of ward members were pooled, and an attempt was made under the aura of religious sanction, to root out individualistic profit-seeking and trade and achieve the blessed state of opulent self-sufficiency and equality.  This new order, recognized to be somewhat different from the law of consecration and stewardship, was called &#8220;The United Order of Enoch.&#8221;  [This idea is taken from the city of Zion in the Pearl of Great Price.]</p></blockquote>
<p>Since these orders developed separately, about 4 different kinds of orders existed.  Page 330 starts talking about them.</p>
<blockquote><p>First, there were St. George type orders in which persons in the community contributed all of their economic property to the Order and received differential wages and dividends depending upon their labor and the property contributed.  Gains were achieved through the increased specialization of labor and the rationalization of agriculture by cooperative farming.  However, in most of these communities a few residents failed to join, and this caused some practical problems which were not always satisfactorily resolved&#8230;</p>
<p>(page 331) A second type of United Order did not involve consecration of all of one&#8217;s property or labor, but contemplated an increase in the community ownership and operation of cooperative enterprises.  This is the Brigham City plan, and was introduced in communities where the cooperative system was already widespread.  Thus, the United Order was simply used as a device to reinforce and extend the cooperative network already in existence&#8230;</p>
<p>(page 332) A third type of United Order was essentially a modification of the Brigham City arrangement.  Designed for wards in the larger cities of the territory-Salt Lake, Ogden, Provo, and Logan-a single cooperative or corporation was organized in each ward to promote some needed enterprise.  All ward members were asked to participate in financing it.  The theory seems to have been that, if economic reorganization was impossible because of a considerable number of Gentile residents, the wards could still contribute toward territorial self-sufficiency by initiating an industry whose products had been imported previously.  Thus, while there would be little to create employment and develop the territory.</p></blockquote>
<p>I mentioned this in my <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/08/31/would-you-recognize-this-church/">previous post</a>, but let me summarize some ward projects:</p>
<ul>
<li>Hat factory</li>
<li>Tailor&#8217;s shop</li>
<li>Soap manufactory</li>
<li>Boot and shoe shop</li>
<li>Large foundry</li>
<li>Machine shop</li>
<li>Making agricultural tools</li>
<li>Planning mill and woodworking shop</li>
</ul>
<p>From page 333,</p>
<blockquote><p>Perhaps the most interesting of the orders were those established on a communal plan.  In some quarters this plan was called the Gospel Plan.  Settlers contributed all their property to the community United Order, had no private property, shared more of less equally in the common products, and lived and ate as a well-established family.  The best known of these was established at Orderville, Utah, but others functioned in Price City, Springdale, and Kingston, Utah; Bunkerville, Nevada; and in a number of newly founded Arizona settlements.</p></blockquote>
<p>I talked previously about the <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2009/08/31/would-you-recognize-this-church/">pants episode</a>, which comes from Orderville, which came from this communal arrangement.  So, what do you think of these different orders?  What do you think of Brigham&#8217;s statement regarding Joseph Smith?  I honestly don&#8217;t think it would be any easier for us to live like this than it was for them.  When people talk about how the people weren&#8217;t righteous enough to live consecration, it seems to imply that we&#8217;re more righteous than they were.  I honestly don&#8217;t understand why we would make such an arrogant statement, because I think it would be extremely difficult.  I&#8217;m impressed with these ideals, and their attempt to live this higher law.</p>
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		<title>Does God Squash ETs: How Human is Human?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Distinctly Mormon doctrines relating the physical appearance of humanity to God’s own “preferred” form grew gradually in early Restoration history rather than springing forth in full. Although there are references in the Book of Mormon to the Brother of Jared seeing the “finger” and then the full vision of Christ (the earliest recorded of Joseph Smith’s prophetic writings), even the earliest published accounts of the First Vision do not feature descriptions of two personages appearing as does the “official” version eventually recorded several years after formation of the church. This doesn’t mean that later descriptions were contradictory to the first version; it does suggest that certain features of the encounter took on greater significance in light of subsequent experience. The emphasis on the “physicality of God” even in the spiritual realm grew in concert with notions of the Eternal Family and its role and function in achieving and living in Celestial Glory. The elaboration of this theology was natural as the early church leadership began to push, even if at first secretly, new forms of marriage and family life, but it was not an inevitable evolution of the theology of the 1830 Restoration. For example, no one in the Community [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Distinctly Mormon doctrines relating the physical appearance of humanity to God’s own “preferred” form grew gradually in early Restoration history rather than springing forth in full. Although there are references in the Book of Mormon to the Brother of Jared seeing the “finger” and then the full vision of Christ (the earliest recorded of Joseph Smith’s prophetic writings), even the earliest published accounts of the First Vision do not feature descriptions of two personages appearing as does the “official” version eventually recorded several years after formation of the church. This doesn’t mean that later descriptions were contradictory to the first version; it does suggest that certain features of the encounter took on greater significance in light of subsequent experience.</p>
<p>The emphasis on the “physicality of God” even in the spiritual realm grew in concert with notions of the Eternal Family and its role and function in achieving and living in Celestial Glory. The elaboration of this theology was natural as the early church leadership began to push, even if at first secretly, new forms of marriage and family life, but it was not an inevitable evolution of the theology of the 1830 Restoration. For example, no one in the Community of Christ expects that the afterlife is about progressing to populate new worlds with our own spiritual offspring, as Heavenly Father populated our own world. In one denomination, it is <strong><em>the</em></strong> Heavenly Father; in the other it is Heavenly Father, with the seldom spoken inference that there may be Heavenly Mother lurking in the theology as well.<span id="more-11344"></span></p>
<p>Today, because of this history, Mormons have a well-integrated belief system about how and why the Divine interacts with the physical universe that, nevertheless, is very different from its “prairie cousins”, let alone in comparison to more distantly related Christian denominations. As a prairie cousin with an abiding interest in the theological role of the physical, this fascinates me. LDS theology raises questions about the limits of acceptable definitions of “children of God”, and what God might do to see His children come out on top that would never occur to me in CofChrist theology. These are the kinds of questions I’d like to ask openly in this post.</p>
<p>Let’s look at extreme cases first, and then try to focus in on cases closer to home.</p>
<p>We know that the universe is a violent place. Creation is violent itself, and often involves destruction on scales we can barely comprehend. My favorite example is <a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/98199456.html">the &#8220;Death Star Galaxy&#8221;.</a> We have in that example a small galaxy – a mere few billion stars is small – that has wandered into a radiation jet being emitted by a larger galaxy. The jet is obliterating thousands of solar systems, and any life there, as we watch by telescope.</p>
<p>What does that tell us? Are planets with life so rare that God can let planets be destroyed wholesale without moral consequences? Or perhaps there are not moral consequences because the life there is not human and thus has no spirits? Either way, would God be able to “write off” a great deal of reality under LDS theology because His “children” weren’t involved? He just has to watch over those special few worlds ideal for humanity. The worlds with just the right size, at just the right distance from stars of the proper temperature and age, with the proper orbital stability and a big brother planet like Jupiter nearby to protect against too frequent impacts from comets. The list of requirements is lengthy, but with infinite space to play around in, they’re bound to pop up here and there even if God doesn’t directly favor them with a helping hand.</p>
<p>Or perhaps God has to actively “weed out” competition for his favored species. You could interpret the evidence that way, too. Consider the destruction of the dinosaurian ecosystems 65 million years ago, or the even more catastrophic Permian extinction scores of millions of years still earlier. Our existence and physical forms today depend in complex, but critical, ways on details of those events. For example, the locations within their general orbits of all the inner planets of our solar system, including the earth, are known to be chaotic on only the order of 5 million years. Start out an orbital simulation with the earth relocated by as little as a millimeter, and in 5 million years, the earth could be on the other side of the sun. A “miracle” performed a hundred million years ago that protects humanity from destruction by asteroid strike or clears the world of big reptilians so mammals (and man) can take over could be too small to notice. Far easier than Moses calling on God to make the sun stand still during battle or parting the Red Sea.</p>
<p>What LDS theology would define to be human gets tougher to distinguish as we get closer to humanity. How close? Well, within the last few weeks, evidence has been published on the results of sequencing Neanderthal DNA. The evidence, first reported in <em>Science</em>, but more accessible <a href="http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/58936/title/Neandertal_genome_yields_evidence_of_interbreeding_with_humans"> here at <em>Science News</em>,</a> shows that modern humans whose lines remained in Africa do not share Neandertal DNA. However, all of the rest of us get one to four percent of our genes from interbreeding with Neandertals that occurred after leaving Africa 45,000 or so years ago. We don’t carry Neandertal body types, but we do seem to carry something important from that population in our internal chemistry and in our brains. Eternal Family reunions might be more surprising than our expectations.</p>
<p>So, did the Neandertals die out because our body type was a little more divine than theirs? Or were the ones who bred with <em>Homo sapiens</em> the more righteous ones? Or do we extend the moral capability and need for redemption to an extinct species at all? Do we instead decide that we are all descended from ancestors who practiced bestiality? Were physical specimens of humans who had no Spirits walking around contemporaneously with Adam?</p>
<p>Look closer now as we get to Biblical or Jaredite times. Now we picture God as acting in detail to favor one nation over another, one individual over another. We try to point to specific reasons for that favoritism in terms of justice, mercy, or obedience in this life or in preexistence, and we can often convince ourselves that such reasons exist. I could argue a very good case, for example, that slaughter of entire Canaanite cities down to the last child might actually produce fewer casualties in the long run.</p>
<p>But the more uncomfortable I become <em>unless</em> I make the case in such terms, the more I realize that tying God’s plan of salvation to things other than intelligence, or justice, or mercy, or obedience – properties that have little to do with the shape or functions of my body – raises doubts. Wouldn’t exalted beings give up such narrow notions of the boundaries of humanity as part of the progression toward exaltation itself?</p>
<p>So I look at the criteria with which we define relationships with God through their physical manifestations – species, race, gender, diet, clothes – and I wonder. Is God really concerned about those things when He decides to claim His children. Or are we just engaging in a very destructive and provincial form of sibling rivalry?</p>
<p>In my Father’s house are many mansions. Maybe some reefs and rookeries, too. Maybe some hives for natural clones or collective minds.</p>
<p>And if that’s true, then certainly there are places for <em>Homo sapiens</em> with same-sex attraction, or childless couples, or singles – every form of Eternal Family we might imagine from the occurrence of those forms here on earth.</p>
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		<title>The JST of the Bible and Early Christianity</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Early Christian Theological Differences I recently read Misquoting Jesus by Bart D. Ehrman. One of the interesting realities on which Ehrman elaborates is that early Christianity was anything but homogeneous. More specifically, there were many factions, some heterodox, some orthodox, some in the middle. Some of the books of the apocrypha, gnostic texts, and other early Christian writings seemed to support various theological ideas not represented, and in fact, even repressed in what became the canonized New Testament. A few of particular interest are adoptionist (Christians that thought Jesus was fully mortal), docetic (Christians who thought Jesus was only divine and merely &#8220;appeared&#8221; to be human), and separationist (Christians who thought Jesus was two separate beings, one Jesus (human) and one Christ (divine)). There were many other heretical ideas that various Christian groups espoused. Some parts of our canonized New Testament were intentionally modified to suppress these views. Translations in Mormonism In Mormonism we have a very strange use of the word &#8220;translation.&#8221; Joseph &#8220;translated&#8221; the golden plates to produce The Book of Mormon. He &#8220;translated&#8221; some egyptian scrolls to produce the book of Abraham. In each of these instances I think that &#8220;translation&#8221; is probably a bit misleading. &#8220;Divined,&#8221; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h4>Early Christian Theological Differences</h4>
<p>I recently read <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Misquoting Jesus</span> by Bart D. Ehrman.  One of the interesting realities on which Ehrman elaborates is that early Christianity was anything but homogeneous.  More specifically, there were many factions, some heterodox, some orthodox, some in the middle.  Some of the books of the apocrypha, gnostic texts, and other early Christian writings seemed to support various theological ideas not represented, and in fact, even repressed in what became the canonized New Testament.<span id="more-11399"></span></p>
<p>A few of particular interest are adoptionist (Christians that thought Jesus was fully mortal), docetic (Christians who thought Jesus was only divine and merely &#8220;appeared&#8221; to be human), and separationist (Christians who thought Jesus was two separate beings, one Jesus (human) and one Christ (divine)).  There were many other heretical ideas that various Christian groups espoused.  Some parts of our canonized New Testament were intentionally modified to suppress these views.</p>
<h4>Translations in Mormonism</h4>
<p>In Mormonism we have a very strange use of the word &#8220;translation.&#8221;  Joseph &#8220;translated&#8221; the golden plates to produce The Book of Mormon.  He &#8220;translated&#8221; some egyptian scrolls to produce the book of Abraham.  In each of these instances I think that &#8220;translation&#8221; is probably a bit misleading.  &#8220;Divined,&#8221; or &#8220;revealed,&#8221; perhaps, but &#8220;translated&#8221; in our modern colloquial usage is quite a stretch in my opinion!</p>
<p>To me, &#8220;translation&#8221; as it relates to Joseph&#8217;s work with the Bible, seems to imply that Joseph was a textual critic, much like Ehrman.  That is to say, his goal, like a textual critic, would have been to correct the errors in translation and copying to return the scriptures to their original form.  The 8th Article of Faith further gives weight to the idea that Joseph would have been interested correcting the translation, as it was the thing that had errors (as opposed to the original manuscripts themselves).</p>
<p>Yet, it is reasonable to me to question whether or not the original manuscripts of the canonized New Testament actually contained accurate teachings of Jesus.  Surely if there were many different theologies, all of which claimed to be Christian, differing radically in their implications for modern Christian understanding, is it safe to assume that the books that &#8220;made it&#8221; into the canon even represent Jesus&#8217; teachings?  What of the process that came to finally accept a &#8220;canon&#8221; of scriptures?  It was a process of gradual (read: hundreds of years) consensus among orthodox Christians (read: the Roman Catholic church), culminating finally in the Council of Trent in the 1500&#8242;s!  Is this really what we now authoritatively accept as Jesus&#8217; teachings and doctrines?  And if Joseph&#8217;s goal, as translator, was to revert the text to the original, have we really made much progress in understanding the true Gospel as Christ taught?</p>
<h4>Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible</h4>
<p>Fortunately, as I&#8217;m sure many of you are silently screaming about, I think the Joseph Smith &#8220;Translation&#8221; is, again, a misnomer.  It seems to me that Joseph had no business being a textual critic (despite being rather schooled in the Bible), and in fact, I don&#8217;t think this was Joseph&#8217;s goal at all.  A casual glance at the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith_Translation_of_the_Bible">Wikipedia article</a> on the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible indicates that Joseph seemed to be using the Bible as an impetus for revelation.  From that article, Philip Barlow thinks there are six different types of changes in the JST:</p>
<ul>
<li>Long revealed additions having no Biblical parallel (including visions of Moses, Enoch, and passages on Melchizedek).</li>
<li>&#8220;Common Sense&#8221; changes.</li>
<li>&#8220;Interpretive additions&#8221; often signaled by the phrase &#8220;or in other words.&#8221;</li>
<li>&#8220;Harmonization&#8221; in which Joseph reconciled seemingly conflicting passages.</li>
<li>Grammatical improvements.</li>
<li>Unclassifiable changes.</li>
</ul>
<p>I think this is a fair list, but I would add to it.  I think the Doctrine and Covenants is a form of the JST.  That is to say, Joseph was not a textual critic, and the JST is not a translation at all.  It is a series of revelations that hoped to obtain what <em>should</em> have been in the Bible.  I think Joseph was interested in discovering, through revelation, the pure Gospel of Jesus Christ, not in a restoration of the words of the original manuscript of the books that make up our canon.</p>
<p>In this vein, I am completely baffled as to why the LDS church does not adopt the JST and why we don&#8217;t rely more on Joseph&#8217;s revelations, and less on the Bible.  I would even go so far as to argue that Mormonism shouldn&#8217;t even really care about the translational accuracy of the Bible.  Between The Book of Mormon, D&amp;C, and modern revelation, it seems we have a rich, full theology, that are Christian in their own right!</p>
<h4>JST in the LDS Church</h4>
<p>The JST manuscripts were preserved by Emma Smith after Joseph&#8217;s death.  As a result, the then Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (RLDS, now Community of Christ church) published and copyrighted the JST in 1867. The LDS church had only a partial collection of the JST manuscripts.  Ostensibly the LDS church was unable to verify, independently, whether or not the compilation of the JST by the RLDS church was indeed accurate and, possibly, to avoid simply accepting the JST as espoused by the RLDS church (relations have not always been good), perhaps the LDS church just used what it had.  That copyright has long since expired, and as recently as 2004 the LDS church, with full support from the Community of Christ church, produced a full facsimile of all the original manuscripts.  So why not adopt it now?  Here are some possible reasons why we have not adopted the JST:</p>
<ul>
<li>Tradishuuuuuun, tradishun!  Yep, the LDS church is very slow to part with tradition.  As we have officially used the KJV (with a few additions) for many years, and have gone to great lengths to print it and bind it, and have incorporated it into many lesson manuals, perhaps we are just sluggish to change.</li>
<li>Perhaps we are afraid of the label &#8220;Joseph Smith Translation.&#8221;  We already know that &#8220;translation&#8221; as used in other contexts is a stretch, so maybe we&#8217;re nervous about adopting another, possibly erroneous &#8220;translation.&#8221;</li>
<li>Maybe there is some interest in differentiating ourselves from the CoC church.  After all, from an LDS perspective, it would be easy to view the CoC church as having gone astray.  If we adopt their book, who knows what will happen.</li>
<li>There may be changes in the full JST that cast doubt on LDS church policies, procedures, rules, revelations, culture, etc.  (I have not read the full JST so this may be a stretch).</li>
<li>Doctrinal salmagundi was the <em>modus operandi</em> in Joseph&#8217;s day, but today&#8217;s church is quite sensitive to new, unprecendented doctrine and/or changes.  We seem to be moving  <strong>toward</strong> mainstream Christianity, and adopting the JST might send us in the other direction.</li>
</ul>
<p>So what do you think?  Was the JST really a &#8220;translation&#8221; in the sense that Joseph was trying to restore the text to the original, and is this even a useful thing to do for Mormonism?  Or was Joseph really more interested in getting to what he believed Jesus actually taught?  Why do you think the LDS church has not adopted the JST? </p>
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		<title>Feminist Musings on the story of Jephthah</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[OT SS Lesson #19 You are going to talk about the Biblical Judges in this week&#8217;s Sunday School class, and the lesson&#8217;s got it pretty well covered (including a discussion of the Judge/Prophetess/Mother in Israel Deborah, yay!) You&#8217;ll have to let me know how your respective teachers covered her.  But some of the Judges are peripheral and didn&#8217;t make it into the lesson materials.  As is my wont to do, I&#8217;d like to investigate the marginal; the story that isn&#8217;t mentioned in the manual &#8212; that of Jephthah. Whenever I come across an odd story in the Old Testament, I feel compelled pull it apart and try to make some sense out of it. Why is it there? Does it have some symbolic meaning of which we are unaware? Are we misinterpreting crucial aspects? Would it make more sense within the cultural milieu? Such is the story of this lesser-known Biblical judge. This strange little story begins with an &#8220;unlikely hero,&#8221; Jephthah, the son of a prostitute. He was taken into his father&#8217;s family and raised there, but after the death of his father the legitimate children forced him to leave. He made some reputation for himself among a band [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-7683" title="Avatar-BiV" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51-150x150.jpg" alt="Avatar-BiV" width="80" height="80" /></a><big><strong>OT SS Lesson #19</strong></big><br />
You are going to talk about the Biblical Judges in this week&#8217;s <a href="http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=0f74c106dac20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;vgnextoid=198bf4b13819d110VgnVCM1000003a94610aRCRD">Sunday School </a>class, and the lesson&#8217;s got it pretty well covered (including a discussion of the Judge/Prophetess/Mother in Israel Deborah, yay!) You&#8217;ll have to let me know how your respective teachers covered her.  But some of the Judges are peripheral and didn&#8217;t make it into the lesson materials.  As is my wont to do, I&#8217;d like to investigate the marginal; the story that isn&#8217;t mentioned in the manual &#8212; that of Jephthah.</p>
<p>Whenever I come across an odd story in the Old Testament, I feel compelled pull it apart and try to make some sense out of it.  Why is it there?  Does it have some symbolic meaning of which we are unaware?  Are we misinterpreting crucial aspects?  Would it make more sense within the cultural milieu?  Such is the story of this lesser-known Biblical judge.<span id="more-11279"></span></p>
<p>This strange little story begins with an &#8220;unlikely hero,&#8221; Jephthah, the son of a prostitute.  He was taken into his father&#8217;s family and raised there, but after the death of his father the legitimate children forced him to leave.  He made some reputation for himself among a band of &#8220;vain men,&#8221; so that when his countrymen needed help against the Ammonites, they came to him.  Jephthah agreed to captain an army against Ammon, in return for being named their titular head.  His first military action was an attempt to negotiate with the enemy.  When that did not work, he gathered together the men of Israel.  The Spirit of the Lord came upon Jephthah, and he went forth to battle, making a interesting vow to the Lord.  If the Lord would help him win the battle, he would dedicate to the Lord and offer up for a burnt offering whatever should come forth from the doors of his house to meet him when he returned.</p>
<p>After a successful conquest, Jephthah returned home and was greeted by his daughter, his only child.  That she was a precious and only child is pointed up by the fact that the judges immediately before and after him were Jair (who had thirty sons who rode on thirty ass colts), and Ibzan (who had thirty sons and thirty daughters).  The number of children is the only fact we are told about these two judges, making it very likely that they are there solely for the reason of emphasizing Jephthah&#8217; only begotten child.  But she was a female.</p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/dore_082-1.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-11308 alignright" style="margin-left: 20px; margin-right: 20px;" title="dore_082 (1)" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/dore_082-1.jpg" alt="" width="330" height="290" /></a>Not only was human sacrifice forbidden by the Lord, (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=deut+18%3A10">Deut. 18:10</a>), but burnt offerings were to be firstborn males (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=lev+1%3A3%2C+10">Lev. 1:3</a>).  Nevertheless, Jephthah had made a vow, and intended to keep it.  His daughter acquiesced, asking only for two months time to go up to the mountains with some friends and &#8220;bewail her virginity.&#8221;  At the end of the two months, she returned to her father, and he &#8220;did with her according to his vow which he had vowed, and she knew no man.&#8221;  Thereafter it became a custom for the daughters of Israel to go up four days in a year to lament the fate of the daughter of Jephthah.</p>
<p>The tradition of Biblical scholars is to interpret this vow of Jephthah&#8217;s as an impetuous and evil action which had disastrous consequences.  That Latter-day Saints have followed in this tradition is clear from the chapter heading of <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/judg/11">Judges 11</a>: &#8220;<em>He makes a <strong>rash vow </strong>which leads to sacrifice of his only daughter.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>This interpretation is problematic for at least two reasons.  First, if this was a &#8220;rash vow,&#8221; why would the Lord be given credit for bringing about the victory of Jephthah&#8217;s army?  In the Book of Judges, the people are punished with captivity and defeat when they forsake the Lord.  Second, why would Jephthah make such a vow?  Did he think perhaps an animal would be the first out the door to greet him?  (In ancient Israel the animals were sometimes kept in the house.)  What if the animal was an unclean one, such as a dog?  To offer up such a sacrifice would be a great affront.  But perhaps the greatest problem Biblical scholars face in the exegesis of this passage is the inclusion of Jephthah in <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/heb/11">Hebrews 11</a> &#8212; the &#8220;faith chapter.&#8221;  Here Jephthah is included along with the great heroes of the Old Testament in obtaining &#8220;a good report through faith.&#8221;</p>
<p>I rather favor an interpretation that became popular in medieval times and has been revived recently &#8212; that Jephthah was promising only to dedicate his daughter to the Lord and not to kill her.  This would parallel Jephthah&#8217;s daughter more to<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/judg/13"> Samson</a> and to <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=1+sam+1%3A11&amp;do=Search">Samuel</a> than to Abraham&#8217;s sacrifice of Isaac.  But it would preserve the Messianic shadowing. Several points make this interpretation possible:</p>
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<li>The Hebrew &#8220;vav&#8221; usually translated &#8220;and&#8221; may also be translated as &#8220;or&#8221; rendering the reading in Judges 11:31: &#8220;whatsoever cometh forth&#8230;to meet me&#8230;shall surely be the Lord&#8217;s, <em><strong>or</strong> </em>I will offer it up as a burnt offering.&#8221; Thus Jephthah&#8217;s method of sacrifice would depend upon what came forth out of his door.</li>
<li>The daughter departed into the mountains to &#8220;bewail her virginity,&#8221; not her death.  It is possible that she was being offered to some type of temple service which would necessitate her remaining unwed for the rest of her life.  Note verse 39 which says that Jephthah kept &#8220;his vow which he had vowed: and <strong><em>she knew no man</em></strong>.&#8221;  This last clause would seem awkward and unnecessary if she were being put to death.</li>
<li>Certain Hebrew scholars believe that for as long as she lived, the virgins of Israel went at different times, each for four days in the year, to provide comfort and encouragement to the daughter of Jephthah at the tent of meeting. This custom must have ended at her death, since there is no further reference to it in scripture or Jewish history.</li>
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<p>You see that it is possible to fit this story quite nicely into our Latter-day Saint canon.  Faithful Jephthah makes a promise to the Lord, and keeps his promise.  Faithful Jephthah&#8217;s daughter yields herself to her father&#8217;s vow and becomes a type of Christ.  Handel uses a variation of this interpretation in his oratorio, <a href="http://opera.stanford.edu/iu/libretti/jephtha.htm">Jephtha</a>.  I&#8217;ll share with you a lovely aria from the oratorio below.  Here Jeptha is reconciled to the blood sacrifice of his daughter, and sings &#8220;Waft her, angels, through the skies,&#8221; before learning that her death is not required, and she shall instead be dedicated to God in a pure and virgin state for the rest of her life.</p>
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<p>The story doesn&#8217;t fit quite so nicely into feminist thought, however&#8230;or does it?  What was the name of this intriguing daughter?  What was she like?  Didn&#8217;t she deserve to make her own decisions?  Why must her life be subject to her father&#8217;s vow?  Here&#8217;s the other side of the question: if Samuel and Isaac were obedient to the vows of their parents, isn&#8217;t it equal treatment for a young woman in the scriptures to show the same dedication?  Is submission not a principle that Christ modeled, and which males and females must all learn?  In my search for spiritual submission, is it helpful to have a female role model?  Or would this simply reinforce <a href="http://www.christiandomesticdiscipline.com/">unrighteous patriarchal domination </a>which tends to crop up in religious settings?  Can it be possible to spin this story into a celebration of a strong woman character who makes her own decisions and chooses on her own to follow the Lord?  And what of my own life?  Is it conceivable to view the submission I have promised in the temple as a glorious principle even though the submission my husband covenants is to God, and mine is to a mere mortal?  Is the surrender I give freely in this holy place simply that required of all Christian disciples?  Or does God require of women an additional offering?  Does Jephthah&#8217;s daughter hold the key?  Am I to become a daughter on the pyre?  I&#8217;m still wondering.<a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/jephthah2.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-11289" title="jephthah2" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/jephthah2.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="161" /></a><br />
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		<title>Pharisaical Observation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Spector</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wrote a post some time ago on whether they Pharisees were given a bad rap in the New Testament. It can be found here. One of the other bad raps against the Pharisees is that they were more concerned about the performance of the Law than the spiritual meaning of the Law. The story of the Pharisee and the Publican (Luke 18:10- 14) is meant to illustrate the point. Since modern Judaism is the outgrowth of Pharisaical Judaism, the same charge is made of the most observant Jews of our time.  More on that a bit later. In the LDS Church, we are asked to do a lot of things. Performances, if you will.  Daily prayer, multiple times a day, over meals, with spouse, family, personal and in our heart at all times; Daily scripture study, with family, spouse and personal; weekly Family Home Evening;  Monthly Home/ Visiting Teaching; Regular Temple Attendance (at least once a month) and Family History Work; Pay tithes and offerings (10% of increase plus Fast Offerings and other contributions); attend our meetings, Sunday, weekday and other; Accept and perform callings given to us by the Bishop or Stake President; Acquire, keep, use and rotate [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a post some time ago on whether they Pharisees were given a bad rap in the New Testament. It can be found <a href="../../../../../2008/09/10/pharisees-bad-guys-or-bad-rap/">here</a>. <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/men1-e1273588987903.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-11161" style="border: 3px solid black;margin: 3px" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/men1-e1273588987903.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="194" /></a>One of the other bad raps against the Pharisees is that they were more concerned about the performance of the Law than the spiritual meaning of the Law. The story of the Pharisee and the Publican (Luke 18:10- 14) is meant to illustrate the point. Since modern Judaism is the outgrowth of Pharisaical Judaism, the same charge is made of the most observant Jews of our time.  More on that a bit later.</p>
<p><span id="more-11159"></span>In the LDS Church, we are asked to do a lot of things. Performances, if you will.  Daily prayer, multiple times a day, over meals, with spouse, family, personal and in our heart at all times; Daily scripture study, with family, spouse and personal; weekly Family Home Evening;  Monthly Home/ Visiting Teaching; Regular Temple Attendance (at least once a month) and Family History Work; Pay tithes and offerings (10% of increase plus Fast Offerings and other contributions); attend our meetings, Sunday, weekday and other; Accept and perform callings given to us by the Bishop or Stake President; Acquire, keep, use and rotate a 1 year supply of food, 3 day emergency kit, supply of funds for emergencies; Strictly observe the Word of Wisdom: perform acts of services for others, meals for the sick, moving families in and out of the ward, yard work, repair work, community service, etc.;  Attend a yearly Tithing Settlement with the Bishop and a bi-yearly Temple Recommend Interview. And more.</p>
<p>These performances are meant to assist us in becoming more like our Savior and Heavenly Father. There is a spiritual meaning and intention behind each of these acts that should be carefully considered as we are doing them. These acts are not an end to themselves, but the means to an end. In most cases, they are recommended, strongly recommended and with a recommended frequency, but the regularity of performance is really a personal choice.</p>
<p>I get concerned both for myself and others that we may fall into the trap the Pharisees found themselves in. That the performances themselves begin to overshadow their meaning and the true intent. I fear that going through the motions becomes more important than real intent of the act itself.</p>
<p>For example, the purpose of Home Teaching is to “watch over the members of the Church, home teachers visit their assigned families at least once each month to teach and strengthen them. Home teachers establish a relationship of trust with these families so that the families can call upon them in times of need.” (LDS Church Website). But, if that relationship of trust is never formed because the Home Teachers do not take the time to really get to know the family and each of its members, does it really matter than they show up once a month? I realize it is a reported statistic, but what it purpose of the report? To prove we have gone through the motions?</p>
<p>Another example. Regular Temple Attendance. Most members of the Church (80%) are blessed to have a temple within 200 miles of their homes.  This means that regular attendance is more possible than ever before. The days of saving up for a lifetime to attend once and receive Temple ordnances for you and your family are rapidly coming to an end. Though, it is probably still true for some.  We only need to attend once for ourselves. The other times we go have a benefit to us and a service performed for others. We get to experience the serenity of the Temple environs, learn more of the meaning of the ordinances and provide a service for those who have passed from this life without receiving temple ordinances. But, if in striving to attend once a month as directed, we rush, do not fully pay attention and just go through the motions, are we really doing as we are asked to do? Maybe once a month isn’t possible or the right frequency for us?</p>
<p>Here are two stories from my Jewish experience.</p>
<p>Years ago, one of my great uncles was traveling in Africa (Ethiopia, I believe) and, as a very observant Jew, wanted to attend synagogue for the Sabbath. After the service, a man came up to him and, observing that my uncle had a pen in his shirt pocket, spat on him and accused him of defiling the Sabbath by carrying a pen in his pocket. Carrying a pen would be forbidden because one might be tempted to write with it on the Sabbath and that is considered work.</p>
<p>My family and I attended a large family reunion at a famous Jewish resort in the “borscht belt” of the Catskill Mountains of New York. This resort had seen its better days but was world famous in its heyday. I must admit there were more different types of Jews there than I had ever seen, from the most observant Hasidim with their black suits and peyos (side curls) to others in shorts and t-shirts. I imagine my family was the only Mormons there.</p>
<p>On Friday night, at the start of the Sabbath, one of the two elevators was set to automatic so that one need not push any buttons for it to operate. In other words, the doors open, you get in, the doors close and the elevator goes to the next floor. The doors open, people get in and out, the doors close and proceeds to the next floor. It allowed the people to ride the elevator without doing any work (pushing the buttons).</p>
<p>Well my uncle got into the non-automatic elevator with two young ladies. They asked him to push the button for floor 2 because they got into the wrong elevator. They told him they could not push the buttons themselves. He said to them that the scriptures say that they should not work nor should they make anyone else work (See Exodus 20:10).  The two young ladies looked at him with a rather quizzical look. They did not understand what he was saying.  He then pushed the button for their floor.</p>
<p>So, I worry that we, as a Church might be getting a little too carried away with the performances (the checklist as we have discussed recently) we are asked to do without the thought of the spiritual significance of what we do.</p>
<p>In some cases, if a 1 year supply is good, a 3 year supply is better. If the Word of Wisdom means abstaining from coffee and black tea, then abstaining from any caffeine, “hot” drink or chocolate is better. If going to the Temple once a month is good, going every week is better.</p>
<p>The regularity of these things is really a personal choice and should be aligned with all the other things we are doing in our life and should be based on our own spiritual growth and development. After all, the objective is to become like Jesus and Our Heavenly Father,  become the best person we can, serve others and return to live with them in the eternities, not rack up a bunch of impressive statistics.</p>
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		<title>Reform Mormonism a Poll</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 14:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have recently come across a group called Reform Mormonisim. I thought their views were interesting and as I mentally answered some of their questions here I was surprised how much of it resonated with me. What I did feel in the end after reading much of their thoughts and material is why bother!! Why not become a nontheist Unitarian. Is it worth all the effort when there must be other religions very close to the same theology? Hopefully we can get someone from their church to answer that question I have added a poll to this and must apologize to those at Reform Mormonism and to the readers at Mormon Matters in that they are totally paraphrased and maybe (unintentionally )taken out of context. So please go here to see them on their web page. What they believe here Reform Mormonism is a home-based, personal philosophy. A day of rest is held wherever one is at; there are no church services. Reform Mormonism does have special temple ordinances, that are designed to aide a person throughout their life, that are conducted in dedicated temple spaces. Unlike the LDS, they do not perform any temple ordinance for the deceased. Reformed [...]]]></description>
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<p>I have recently come across a group called <a title="Reform  Mormonism" href="http://www.reformmormonism.org/index.html">Reform Mormonisim</a>. I thought their views were interesting and as I mentally answered some of their questions <a href="http://www.reformmormonism.org/lib/youmight.htm">here</a> I was surprised how much of it resonated with me.<span id="more-10920"></span></p>
<p>What I did feel in the end after reading much of their thoughts and material is why bother!! Why not become a nontheist Unitarian. Is it worth all the effort when there must be other religions very close to the same theology? Hopefully we can get someone from their church to answer that question</p>
<p>I have added a poll to this and must apologize to those at Reform Mormonism and to the readers at Mormon Matters in that they are totally paraphrased and maybe (unintentionally )taken out of context. So please go <a href="http://www.reformmormonism.org/lib/youmight.htm">here</a> to see them on their web page.</p>
<p>What they believe <a href="http://www.reformmormonism.org/whatwebelieve.htm">here</a></p>
<p>Reform Mormonism is a home-based, personal philosophy. A day of  rest is       held wherever one is at; there are no church services. Reform  Mormonism       does have special temple ordinances, that are designed to aide a  person       throughout their life, that are conducted in dedicated temple  spaces. Unlike       the LDS, they do not perform any temple ordinance for the deceased.</p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial">Reformed Mormonism are  individuals who have moved away from organized  religion and have       found peace and satisfaction in concentrating on the important  things in       life. We&#8217;re just like you &#8211; parents, children, brothers, sisters,  friends       and partners. We&#8217;ve settled on a personal philosophy that makes  sense in       the 21st century. It&#8217;s personal,  important, and best of all, it  isn&#8217;t       scary like so many churches these days.</span></p>
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		<title>A Rational Theology Part 2: The First Four Principles and Ordinances of the Gospel</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my previous discussion of &#8220;A Rational Theology&#8221; by John Widstoe, I discussed two methodologies of deriving a full LDS theology in use during the time Widstoe was writing this book.  We then compared such strategies with modern church apologists. In this installment, I&#8217;d like to discuss the first four principles and ordinances as we view them today, and contrast them with what Widstoe lays out in his rational theology. Article of Faith 4 reads: We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost. While these verses lay out the principles/ordinances, they do little to explicate what these terms actually mean. And indeed, the confusion over these principles is the subject of many theological debates in Christianity. In Mormonism, however, I think we have some fairly clear explanations for how these principles/ordinances are used in our theology. For example, to establish a definition of faith, most Mormons will refer to Hebrews 11:1, or perhaps Alma 32:21 (not quoted for sake of brevity).  Additionally, at least to me, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/rational.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-10508 alignright" title="rational" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/rational.jpg" alt="" width="170" height="263" /></a>In my previous <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/04/14/a-rational-theology-part-1-scientists-and-apologists/">discussion</a> of &#8220;<a href="http://www.cumorah.com/etexts/rationaltheology.txt">A Rational Theology</a>&#8221; by John Widstoe, I discussed two methodologies of deriving a full LDS theology in use during the time Widstoe was writing this book.  We then compared such strategies with modern church apologists.  In this installment, I&#8217;d like to discuss the first four principles and ordinances as we view them today, and contrast them with what Widstoe lays out in his rational theology.<span id="more-10862"></span><br />
Article of Faith 4 reads:</p>
<blockquote><p>We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.</p></blockquote>
<p>While these verses lay out the principles/ordinances, they do little to explicate what these terms actually mean.  And indeed, the confusion over these principles is the subject of many theological debates in Christianity.  In Mormonism, however, I think we have some fairly clear explanations for how these principles/ordinances are used in our theology.  For example, to establish a definition of faith, most Mormons will refer to Hebrews 11:1, or perhaps Alma 32:21 (not quoted for sake of brevity).  Additionally, at least to me, I sense a kind of loose cultural consensus for what faith is, and is not.  For baptism we can look to D&amp;C 20:73.  As for the Gift of the Holy Ghost, modern revelation confirms the method of the &#8220;laying of hand by those who are in authority,&#8221; and we have a ready explanation of the difference between the <strong>gift</strong> of the Holy Ghost, and the <strong>influence</strong> of the Holy Ghost.</p>
<p>I confess, I find some of the typical Mormon explanations of these principles and ordinances somewhat (okay, at least for faith very) unsatisfying.  Faith, when described as &#8220;substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen&#8221; leaves me wondering about the difference between God and electromagnetic waves or general relativity!  In the case of Alma, it is worse because we bring a new term &#8220;knowledge&#8221; into the mix without an appropriate definition.  After such standard definitions it is little wonder to me why we argue over semantics, and describe those who either fall away, or reject the church, as &#8220;faithless.&#8221;  Faith often becomes the lynchpin for anyone who doesn&#8217;t see things our way!</p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/mormon_baptism.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-10863" title="mormon_baptism" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/mormon_baptism.jpg" alt="" width="190" height="218" /></a>Likewise, even the explanation for baptism in D&amp;C 20 leaves me wanting.  What is so magical about immersion in water?  Is it entirely clear from the New Testament that Jesus was &#8220;completely submersed&#8221; in the water like we believe is necessary in LDS theology?  It feels like there should be more to this ordinance than simply a bath!  Even coupling it with repentance (as it should be) just clouds the waters of my mind.</p>
<p>In &#8220;A Rational Theology,&#8221; Widstoe lays out a compelling alternative for these standard definitions.  Not that he repudiates them, but he explicitly differentiates between the abstract meanings of the principles and ordinances, and the concrete implmentation on <em>terra firma</em>.  I think his words are enlightening:</p>
<blockquote><p>In God&#8217;s Plan for life on earth is a system of laws representing eternal realities, to which man must conform. Such a law, for instance, is faith, which, in its simple, universal meaning, is man&#8217;s certainty that in the universe is found everything he may desire for his upbuilding and advancement, and that the eternal relations of universal forces will prevail in the end for his good. Another such fundamental law, to which man must conform, is that of repentance, which in its larger sense is merely faith made active. Passive faith can do little for man&#8217;s advancement. Yet another such law is that of baptism, which is essentially obedience to existing laws. And still another such law is that of the gift of the Holy Ghost, which perhaps means that a man may place himself in touch with the whole of the universe, including the beings of superior intelligence that it contains, and draw knowledge from forces beyond the earth. &#8211; John A. Widstoe, &#8220;A Rational Theology&#8221; pp 42-43</p></blockquote>
<p>Here, it is clear that the first four principles and ordinances of the Gospel are eternal laws, are independent of the LDS church, earth, priesthood, or any other convention, organization, or authority in the universe.  I believe this offers us perspective on the larger context in which the specific LDS implementation resides.  It also makes allowances for God&#8217;s other non-terrestrial children to experience different forms of these basic laws and principles.<br />
Widstoe goes on to say:</p>
<blockquote><p>Life on earth deals directly with gross matter and the forces pertaining to it. The laws formulated for the guidance of man are especially devised for earth conditions, and belong to the earth. For instance, water baptism, the symbol of obedience to God and acceptance of his love, is essentially an ordinance of and for this earth. It is not thinkable that water baptism is practiced in a future estate for water is an earth substance. If this be true, then all who enter upon the earth-career, and who desire the perfected joy derived from the Gospel, must have baptism on this earth. &#8211; John A. Widstoe, &#8220;A Rational Theology&#8221; pp 44-45</p></blockquote>
<p>Then the all-encompassing explanation provided formerly, couched in the reality of earth life,  offers a surprising explanation of vicarious ordinances, necessarily performed here, on behalf of those who did not receive them while &#8220;in the flesh.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>Should some of the spirits refuse, while on earth, to accept the Gospel, or fail to hear it, baptism, belonging to the earth, must be done for them, vicariously, on earth, so that they, having had the work done for them here, may accept or reject the ordinance in their life beyond the grave. This is the motive of the work for the dead. The earth ordinances must be done by or for every soul born upon the earth so that the earth-experience may not be in vain, should the Gospel be accepted in the remotest day of eternity. This view becomes more important when it is recalled that the ordinances of the earth, belonging primarily to the earth, stand for vast, eternal realities, indispensable to man&#8217;s progress. &#8211; John A. Widstoe, &#8220;A Rational Theology&#8221; p. 45</p></blockquote>
<p>For me, I find the deeper theology here enriching, satisfying, and meaningful, particularly in my state of uncertainty with regard to the plenitude of truth claims in the LDS church.</p>
<p>So how do you view Widstoe&#8217;s rational &#8220;first four principles and ordinances&#8221;?  Do his explanations provide you with more insight?  Is he right?  Or is this just another attempt by an &#8220;apologist&#8221; to justify his belief system?  Is there scriptural backing for his claims?  We do not emphasize such distinctions in the church today.  Is this because we don&#8217;t really know, or is it just not important?</p>
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		<title>After Action Report: The Community of Christ Did WHAT?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Headline in the Independence Examiner for Thursday, April 15, 2010: &#8220;Delegation Takes No Action on Human Sexuality Issues: Church Will Continue Dialogue.&#8221; Headline  by John Hamer on BCC on Thursday, April 15, 2010: &#8220;Gay Rights Revelation Added to The Community of Christ D&#38;C&#8221; &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- The two headlines above generally cover the spectrum of opinion about what happened at the Community of Christ World Conference as it completed the process of canonization of a new Section 164 for its D&#38;C. The spectrum of opinions about whether what happened was a good thing or bad thing, of course, runs even more broadly. Indeed, I’m not at all certain that we’ll even be able to see how intense the various “colors” of that spectrum will prove until information about the conference filters down to the bulk of the North American church that maintains no real connection to the World Church in the &#8220;Blogitorium&#8221;. As in many churches on the Christian left in North America, that membership tends to be somewhat more traditionalist than its leadership. Nevertheless, I’ll give my view as someone from one part of the peanut gallery, focusing on what was in each portion of Section 164 and the effects of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Headline in the <em>Independence</em><em> Examiner </em>for Thursday, April 15, 2010:</p>
<p><strong><em>&#8220;Delegation Takes No Action on Human Sexuality Issues: Church Will Continue Dialogue.&#8221;</em></strong></p>
<p>Headline  <a href="http://bycommonconsent.com/2010/04/15/gay-rights-revelation-added-to-dc-world-conference-part-2-april-12%e2%80%9315/">by John Hamer on BCC </a> on Thursday, April 15, 2010:</p>
<p><strong><em>&#8220;Gay Rights Revelation Added to The Community of Christ D&amp;C&#8221;</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</em></strong></p>
<p>The two headlines above generally cover the spectrum of opinion about what happened at the Community of Christ World Conference as it completed the <a href="http://mormonmatters.org/2010/01/05/canonizing-modern-revelation-a-tourist-guide/"> process of canonization</a> of a <a href="http://cofchrist.org/dc164/"> new Section 164</a> for its D&amp;C. The spectrum of opinions about whether what happened was a good thing or bad thing, of course, runs even more broadly. Indeed, I’m not at all certain that we’ll even be able to see how intense the various “colors” of that spectrum will prove until information about the conference filters down to the bulk of the North American church that maintains no real connection to the World Church <a href="http://saintsherald.com/2010/04/13/world-conference-in-the-blogosphere/"> in the &#8220;Blogitorium&#8221;</a>. As in many churches on the Christian left in North America, that membership tends to be somewhat more traditionalist than its leadership.<span id="more-10678"></span></p>
<p>Nevertheless, I’ll give my view as someone from one part of the peanut gallery, focusing on what was in each portion of Section 164 and the effects of associated legislation passed to begin implementation. A future post will provide a similar analysis on legislation considered by the Conference not specifically addressed by Section 164 and suggest something about the overall direction of the Community of Christ in the future.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline">SECTION 164, PARAGRAPHS 1-4</span></strong></p>
<p>President Veazey describes the experiences of meditation, particularly on portions of Galatians 3:27-29, that led him to offer the Section. After commending the church for similarly seeking to discern the Spirit in a structured process that has been going on for well over a year, he makes explicit an understanding of the church and its sacraments which has been implicit in CofChrist theology for a number of years.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;Instruction given previously about baptism was proper to ensure the rise and cohesiveness of the church during its early development and in following years. However, as a growing number have come to understand, the redemptive action of God in Christ—while uniquely and authoritatively expressed through the church—is not confined solely to the church. God’s grace, revealed in Jesus Christ, freely moves throughout creation, often beyond human perception, to achieve divine purposes in people’s lives.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The Community of Christ is to see itself as “one true church”, not as the “one <em><span style="text-decoration: underline">and only</span></em> true church”. How serious is this theological intent was earlier signaled by something I haven’t seen commentators note elsewhere. The first sessions of Conference always feature certain speeches of welcome. One is usually a non-CofChrist speaker. This speaker is often a local Congressman or a Missouri Senator. The speech is strictly non-political even then, but the identity is interesting because trends over time seem to show the direction of the church leadership’s interest.</p>
<p>This year that slot went to the Rev. Dr. Michael Kinnamon, General Secretary of the National Council of Churches. Kinnamon unabashedly spoke of the Community of Christ having unique gifts that should be seen as adding to bodies such as the NCC, rather than as a body going its own way. Ironically, contacts between the RLDS and the NCC were among the suspicions cited by fundamentalist opponents of the church circa 1970 as evidence of apostasy. Thus, such a speech 40 years ago might itself have been too controversial to occur.</p>
<p>Section 164 then lays out specific instruction (that will be followed quickly by formal administrative policy <a href="http://www.cofchrist.org/wc2010/counsel/QA3.asp"> guidance</a> to become effective by September 1, 2011). These policies will result in acceptance into membership into the Community of Christ upon confirmation by CofChrist priesthood – without requiring rebaptism if the original baptism: a) involved water;  b) was performed by an ordained Christian minister;  and c) as a personal expression of faith in Christ. In particular, we will not require someone to present proof of their baptism <em>or the baptizing minister’s credentials</em>, since that would be impossible in many places throughout the world. This clearly expands the notion of <em>true priesthood authority</em> beyond the boundaries of those called through the priesthood line passed to Joseph Smith.</p>
<p>The phrase “using water” also allows for baptisms done by immersion, pouring, or sprinkling, while upholding the church’s own standard practice of baptism by immersion at the age of accountability. There is also some additional specific guidance regarding the substance of the prayer of confirmation (Baptism of the Spirit) that is now the means by which one moves from being part of the Body of Christ into membership within the denomination. And preparation for confirmation will now be a formal requirement for the ordinance to occur.</p>
<p>Paragraph 3 contains a call for all members to serious consider and live the meaning of their baptismal covenants (water and Spirit). Paragraph 4 ties this call to consideration of the role the sacrament of the Lord’s Supper should play in renewing, witnessing, and amplifying our covenant. (Portions of the preamble specifically warn us to NOT make the meaning of the covenants atrophy even as we broaden the procedures, because of the concern that in some places this has happened with open communion).</p>
<p>This portion of the Section makes the Community of Christ look very Protestant – if you can call becoming more Protestant through modern revelation a Protestant concept in the first place.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline">SECTION 164, PARAGRAPHS 5-7</span></strong></p>
<p>These are the paragraphs whose approval generated the widely divergent headlines above. Their actual content is to call attention to “serious questions about moral behavior and relationships” – but to prioritize those questions not simply as they are listed within the dominant culture of the denomination.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“These issues are complex and difficult to understand outside their particular settings because of strikingly different cultural histories, customs, and understandings of scripture. For example, the issues include female submission, female genital mutilation, child brides, forced marriages, and sexual permissiveness. They include cleansing and exploitation of widows, harsh conflicts over same-gender attraction and relationships, and varying legal, religious, and social definitions of marriage, to name just a few.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>More importantly, the Section calls us to see the solutions for these moral dilemmas as arising from an understanding of Christianity as a community that transcends definitions by economic status, social class, sex, gender, or ethnicity. They simply are no longer primary. Relationships are to be rooted in the principles of Christ-like love, mutual respect, responsibility, justice, covenant, and faithfulness, <em>against which there is no law.</em></p>
<p>Section 164 then extrapolates that these principles require that the church move the resolution of moral issues to the church in the cultures most affected by them rather than let the dominant North American church decide for the rest of the world. Field Apostles, under the guidance of the Presidency, are authorized to call and set the agenda for field, national, or (non-geographical) cultural groups to deal with issues such as those listed above as they feel directed.</p>
<p>Uncertainty about the nature and timing of these conferences is generating the widely divergent headlines about gay rights. First, everyone in the Community of Christ seems to understand that the leadership feels that it must not expose our leaders and members in cultures where discussion of gay issues is taboo. If so, they can hardly move toward expanded gay rights in the United States unless they can find a way to maintain what the government would call “plausible deniability&#8221;.</p>
<p>Second, there is a large body of conservative members in the US church (and non-members in society) whose reaction must be anticipated and allowed for. The LDS experience with Prop 8 shows what happens when the church in the US takes any position on controversial issues in the political arena. Many feel the church has moved too hesitantly and will continue to do so; others are likely to feel the church is moving in the wrong direction entirely.</p>
<p>Finally, there are logistical questions. It seems unlikely that the US church has the resources to assemble a national conference on gay rights issues before the spring of 2012 at the earliest. It will take until September, 2011, simply to implement the new conditions for membership.</p>
<p>The greatest sign of movement toward gay rights comes from something in administrative minutia. It is normal for the church to realign Apostolic Fields following a World Conference (our Apostles retire, so there are usually changes in the Twelve). This time a gerrymandered field has been carved out for Apostle Susan Skoor that stretches from Southern Australia to Eastern  Canada – and just happens to cover all of the non-US jurisdictions that proposed World Conference legislation expanding full priesthood and sacramental rites for gays. The extension of rights in that Field or in nations within that Field <em>might be granted</em> while maintaining sufficient distance from the World Church (and prying media) to protect the church in cultures hostile to gay rights.</p>
<p>Expansion to the US is much more difficult to do while maintaining any credibility to foreign governments and religious bodies that “this is just local jurisdictions acting on their own.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps more significantly in the long run than the particular moral issues – at least from the perspective of this Washington spectator – is the change these paragraphs make in the legislative rights of mission centers to set the agenda for the church. The Presidency immediately ruled 21 legislative proposals that had been painstakingly brought to the conference as out of order because they reflect National or Regional concerns. These rulings were entirely appropriate under Section 164 guidance.</p>
<p>However, the Conference later passed implementing legislation for the field and national conferences that make them “special conferences”. Such conferences operate under different parliamentary rules than World Conference. In particular,  Mission Centers lack the right to place items on the agenda of special conferences; that agenda is set <em>only</em> by the Apostle who calls the conference with the approval of the Presidency. In short, this revelation makes the Community of Christ less democratic and more theocratic than it was a year ago.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline">SECTION 164, PARAGRAPH 8</span></strong></p>
<p>Paragraph 8, by contrast, shows the flexibility and speed with which the Community of Christ can move on organizational issues when it wishes to do so. The Twelve and the Presidents of the Seven Quorums of Seventy have been meeting for several years in response to the immediately previous revelation (Section 163) to consider organizational changes to increase evangelistic effectiveness. Paragraph 8 is taken as authorization to make these changes.</p>
<p>Within 24 hours of Section 164 approval, the number of Quorums of Seventy was increased from seven to ten, the additional Quorum Presidents were named, and they were approved by the Conference and set apart to that calling. Jack Bauer couldn&#8217;t have moved faster. Clearly, the outcome of these discussions among the leading quorums was well prepared in advance, while they are still feeling their way around the notion of how and when national conferences will function.</p>
<p>Reorganization of the Twelve, while not fundamental, essentially separates the world into 10 Fields for the moment, each led by an Apostle, with the remaining two Apostles focusing on Headquarters-oriented tasks. For the first time, a single Quorum of Seventy will be aligned with the geographic or other missionary focus of a Field Apostle.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline">SECTION 164, PARAGRAPH 9</span></strong></p>
<p>The final paragraph of the document is a benediction of sorts, and a challenge that the rise of Zion is no farther away than the willingness of all of us – all the “beloved children of the Restoration” – to overcome our insecurities and embrace a Christ-like life.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;The mission of Jesus Christ is what matters most to the journet ahead.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Joseph Fielding McConkie and the Lens of Literalism</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a recently published book ‘Between the Lines: Unlocking Scripture with Timeless Principles’ (2009), Joseph Fielding McConkie tries to deal with the issue of discerning between what is ‘Literal’ and what is ‘Figurative’ in the scriptures. I think there are large problems in his brief account and I want to try and deal with them here. These problems arise because he (inadvertently?) wants to establish a particular set of orthodox readings for two different groups of readers. Seeing that ‘the importance of discerning correctly that which is figurative and that which is literal would be hard to overstate’ [p. 133] we might expect that the insights that Bro. McConkie will offer would reflect this seriousness. Yet his answers seem facile and ill-thought out. For example, his first insight into working through this dilemma is that often ‘the scriptures provide the answer’ [p. 134]. Following this he then explain that Adam was clearly born (literally) because of the scripture in Moses 6:59 (Adam is described as being ‘born’ in this verse). His second insight is that sometimes ‘things spoken of in the scriptures are both figurative and literal’ [p. 134]. What is confusing here for me is that he argues that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a recently published book ‘Between the Lines: Unlocking Scripture with Timeless Principles’ (2009), Joseph Fielding McConkie tries to deal with the issue of discerning between what is ‘Literal’ and what is ‘Figurative’ in the scriptures. I think there are large problems in his brief account and I want to try and deal with them here. These problems arise because he (inadvertently?) wants to establish a particular set of orthodox readings for two different groups of readers. <span id="more-10213"></span></p>
<p>Seeing that ‘the importance of discerning correctly that which is figurative and that which is literal would be hard to overstate’ [p. 133] we might expect that the insights that Bro. McConkie will offer would reflect this seriousness. Yet his answers seem facile and ill-thought out. For example, his first insight into working through this dilemma is that often ‘the scriptures provide the answer’ [p. 134]. Following this he then explain that Adam was clearly born (literally) because of the scripture in Moses 6:59 (Adam is described as being ‘born’ in this verse).</p>
<p>His second insight is that sometimes ‘things spoken of in the scriptures are both figurative and literal’ [p. 134]. What is confusing here for me is that he argues that sometimes symbols are used in the middle of real stories, for example in the Garden of Eden. However, what those symbolic aspects are is less clear. Certainly Pres. Kimball’s declaration that the Eve-Adam-Rib story was figurative would be one example of what McConkie is discussing here. Yet, Pres. Kimball’s remark assumes a particular understanding of the Garden of Eden narrative to make that argument (i.e. that the story is literal and that they were born). Why is this reading any less literal than the born passage? Could the rib be literal and the reference to born be figurative?</p>
<p>His third insight is the most troubling for me. He writes that, ‘When scripture provides no clear answer by which we can discern what is figurative and what is literal, we are reduced to our own good sense and wisdom’. He continues ‘This… may well be quite deliberate, for it creates an opportunity for [God] to get a measure of our judgement, spiritual maturity and spiritual integrity’ [p. 135]. Really! ‘Figure it out for yourself’! That’s your key to discerning between what is literal and figurative. However, what is more perplexing is the implication of McConkie’s discourse.</p>
<p>By invoking issues that relate interpretation to spiritual maturity McConkie is creating an implicit ‘orthodoxy’ which places the reader in a position of spiritual uncertainty regarding their position with God. This is surely spiritually destructive. To encourage individuals to read the scriptures in a way that is reflective of their spiritual standing is to place them in a situation of tension of with God. For if their interpretation is wrong then they are not ‘saved’ and are in need of repentance. Moreover it allows those who are in authority to question worthiness upon the basis of differing interpretations. I believe that if we are to benefit from the scriptures, i.e. if they are to draw us God, then placing the individual into a spiritual uncertain situation while engaging with the texts is spiritually unproductive.</p>
<p>A recent post by SteveP, at BCC, argues that there is a temptation to approach the scriptures literally when they were not intended to be read in that particular way. I think this is fundamentally correct, however, I am convinced that there is a tendency within such arguments to find those who derive spirituality through a literalistic approach to the scriptures as incorrect or mis-informed. I am not arguing that SteveP would advocate this but rather that I have seen some who do. In one sense this form of argument can be used just like McConkie’s but instead to defend a non-literal orthodoxy.</p>
<p>Though SteveP frames his debate within the context of the literal/figurative binary, his position is rooted to the idea that the scriptures are intended to help us related to God and to ‘spiritual’ truth. My contention is that perhaps the literal/figurative dichotomy is part of the liahona/iron-rod split. Applying Richard Poll’s analogy here is useful because it helps us see that Liahona (figurative?) and Iron-Rod (literal?) readers of the scriptures are not in competition and should learn more empathy for the other position.</p>
<p>I am not convinced that literal readings of the scripture do violence to the depth the scriptures have to offer (though I am concerned about how they view more figurative readers). Yet, I am convinced that they do violence to the depth’s that SteveP sees in the scriptures (and I admit that feel the same). For another person that literal reading might derive other depths that (perhaps) non-literal readers might miss. Each paradigm has its failings and flaws, just like Liahonas and Iron-rods.</p>
<p>I think that a better way, a more complex and certainly less clear way, of approaching the scriptures is with different lens of literalism. If we rather see the scriptures literally in a way that both groups can accept, i.e. the scriptures can literally help us to come to God, then perhaps both sides could be more willing to apply these different lens of literalism to the same story and deal with the challenges that each will bring. Though a non-literal reader by inclination I have felt the challenge of trying to reconcile a literalistic reading of certain OT passages. Though I do not feel bound by such a paradigm, trying to read them in that literal way has proved a spiritually productive venture. Moreover, I hope that I am still able to plumb the depths that a non-literal paradigm has often provided for me.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[What if &#8212; as well as a description of birth order and an indicator of hierarchy &#8212; the appellation &#8220;firstborn&#8221; was also a title?  Could the Heavenly Father assign this role to any of his children?  This is a question confronted by the audience of &#8220;Brothers,&#8221; a new play which opened at the Covey Center for the Arts in Provo on March 11th.  The play runs through next weekend, March 25, 26, and 27, and I encourage your attendance after I went to see it on Friday.  The playwright and director, J. Scott Bronson, intends it as part of a trilogy of plays, the first of which, Stones, won the Association for Mormon Letters 2001 best drama. &#8220;Brothers&#8221; is a retelling of the story of two of the foremost personalities in the heavenly realms &#8212; Jesus and Lucifer.  The two are not named in the play, but call each other &#8220;brother.&#8221;  Bronson&#8217;s striking script is never overstated, and depends upon the intelligence and familiarity of the audience with Mormon and scriptural themes to make connections.  I very much enjoyed this subtlety, which allowed the story to unfold without announcing what was happening or locating where the action was taking place, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-7683" title="Avatar-BiV" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51-150x150.jpg" alt="Avatar-BiV" width="80" height="80" /></a>What if &#8212; as well as a description of birth order and an indicator of hierarchy &#8212; the appellation &#8220;firstborn&#8221; was also a title?  Could the Heavenly Father assign this role to any of his children?  This is a question confronted by the audience of &#8220;Brothers,&#8221; a new play which opened at the Covey Center for the Arts in Provo on March 11th.  <span id="more-10158"></span>The play runs through next weekend, March 25, 26, and 27, and I encourage your attendance after I went to see it on Friday.  The playwright and director, J. Scott Bronson, intends it as part of a trilogy of plays, the first of which, Stones, won the Association for Mormon Letters 2001 best drama.</p>
<p>&#8220;Brothers&#8221; is a retelling of the story of two of the foremost personalities in the heavenly realms &#8212; Jesus and Lucifer.  The two are not named in the play, but call each other &#8220;brother.&#8221;  Bronson&#8217;s striking script is never overstated, and depends upon the intelligence and familiarity of the audience with Mormon and scriptural themes to make connections.  I very much enjoyed this subtlety, which allowed the story to unfold without announcing what was happening or locating where the action was taking place, but let the viewers discover it on their own.</p>
<p>Bronson is playful with Mormon theology in this work, never straying from the bounds of LDS orthodoxy, but sometimes approaching uncomfortable ambiguities commonly found in Mormonism.  It was especially fascinating to follow Bronson&#8217;s ruminations on the Plan of Salvation presented by his Satan character as he expounded upon his reasoning for rejecting the plan and his ideas for &#8220;improving&#8221; it.  Another potent scene again involved Satan mocking humanity&#8217;s constant querying about the presence of suffering in the world:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;Why, why, why?&#8221;  &#8230;mortals waste so much time on the most  pathetic questions.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;Why does it have to be this way?&#8221; It doesn&#8217;t HAVE to be this way, it just IS!</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;Why did Mommy have to die?&#8221; Why WOULDN&#8217;T she die?  Everybody dies.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;Why is the sky blue?&#8221; Who CARES?!</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;Why, why, why?&#8221;  WHY NOT?? Is there anything more pathetic?</p>
<p>The symbolism in the play was elegant &#8212; from the stage set to the four simple and beautiful centerpieces changed with each scene, to the understated change in costume done by removing an outer coat.</p>
<p>Every artistic work has its weak points, and this one was no exception, so as a reviewer I am compelled to present them.  Following the play, the playwright/director and actors made themselves available for questions from the audience.  During this session, Dave Hanson who played the Jesus part explained that he approached the character as being human with touches of divinity, instead of vice-versa, as the Savior is usually presented.  Hanson did an excellent job of portraying this mortality, and the all-too-human sibling rivalry which was a major theme of the play.  However, he never quite reached the spark of divinity I think he aspired to.  His almost spritely excitement about the plan in the pre-existent realm disappeared completely once he entered mortality &#8212; and I would have loved to have seen traces of this personality carried over throughout the play.  At times I felt that Hanson presented as morose when he was going for majestic.</p>
<p>Elwon Bakly, who played the other brother, has a rich, gorgeous stage voice.  But since the play was presented in a small (less than 100 seat) theater, it completely overpowered the space.  I wished that he would have expressed strong emotion through more nuance in his vocal range rather than in volume.  Since the theater was in a half-round, the blocking should have been more sophisticated, allowing all of the seats an equal experience.  I sat in one of the side seats, and there were long periods of time during the most dramatic scenes when I never saw either of the actors&#8217; faces.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, I found the play an engrossing treatment of a uniquely Mormon theology of the relationship between Jesus and his brother, Lucifer.  It might give further ammunition to evangelicals who decry this aspect of our doctrine, but I applaud the exploration and am convinced that it will be enjoyable and thought-provoking to both serious and casual purveyors of Mormonism, as well as those with an LDS background.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" src="http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t309/GenevieveBruno/DSC00111-1-1.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="375" /></p>
<p>The actors answering questions following Friday&#8217;s showing of &#8220;Brothers&#8221;</p>
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		<title>The Relational Definition of Sin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of my favorite experiences at the BYU Studies Symposium was listening to a set of two talks on the subject of sin.  That might not usually be such a fascinating topic!  But these had a twist which captured my interest &#8212; sin and its effect upon human relationships. Josh Probert, in his talk &#8220;Joseph Smith and the Relational Definition of Sin&#8221; spoke of the &#8220;doctrine&#8221; of friendship/fellowship, one of the grand fundamentals of Mormonism. Joseph&#8217;s family kingdoms and welding Temple rituals altered the traditional parameters of Christian soteriology. Probert explained that early LDS emphasis on community reoriented the concept of sin and emphasized its effect on relationships. In such a system, the higher the disruption to covenant relationships, the more serious the sin. I confess I have never regarded sin in quite this way before. I have seen sin more as an individual problem, the action of an indulgent self. But I was entranced by Probert&#8217;s description, which recognizes that personal journeys might have rippling effects in community. Sin also disrupts one&#8217;s relationship to Deity. The following talk, &#8220;All Sin is Relational: Resonances of Mormon and Feminist Theology,&#8221; was given by Diedre Green. Green discussed the feminist perspective of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-7683" title="Avatar-BiV" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51-150x150.jpg" alt="Avatar-BiV" width="80" height="80" /></a>One of my favorite experiences at the BYU Studies Symposium was listening to a set of two talks on the subject of sin.  That might not usually be such a fascinating topic!  But these had a twist which captured my interest &#8212; sin and its effect upon human relationships.  <span id="more-10116"></span></p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/jp.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-10117" title="jp" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/jp.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="210" /></a>Josh Probert, in his talk &#8220;Joseph Smith and the Relational Definition of Sin&#8221; spoke of the &#8220;doctrine&#8221; of friendship/fellowship, one of the grand fundamentals of Mormonism.  Joseph&#8217;s family kingdoms and welding Temple rituals altered the traditional parameters of Christian soteriology.  Probert explained that early LDS emphasis on community reoriented the concept of sin and emphasized its effect on relationships.  In such a system, the higher the disruption to covenant relationships, the more serious the sin.  I confess I have never regarded sin in quite this way before.  I have seen sin more as an individual problem, the action of an indulgent self.  But I was entranced by Probert&#8217;s description, which recognizes that personal journeys might have rippling effects in community.  Sin also disrupts one&#8217;s relationship to Deity.</p>
<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/dg.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-10118" title="dg" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/dg.jpg" alt="" width="323" height="213" /></a>The following talk, &#8220;All Sin is Relational: Resonances of Mormon and Feminist Theology,&#8221; was given by Diedre Green.  Green discussed the feminist perspective of viewing the self as always being in community and related it to the LDS paradigm.  She spoke of LDS members&#8217; idea of being &#8220;saviors&#8221; of men &#8212; that our own salvation is indeed contingent upon it.  The expanded notion of relational sin recognizes that we cannot harm a member of our society without harming the whole.  There is a communal impact of discordant relations.  Green also explored feminist theology that there is a difference in feminine and masculine apporaches to sin.  Valerie Saiving, for instance, “contests the traditional notion that pride is the universal sin, arguing that women’s sin of tending to dissolve herself into the agendas of others may go unrecognized—and unredeemed—if it is solely a male subject that is assumed in a doctrine of sin.” Rather than pride as the universal sin, Saiving proposes that for women, sin might appear in the form of giving “too much of herself, so that nothing remains of her own uniqueness.”</p>
<p>These talks got me wondering about a few things.  Does viewing sin as behavior that damages saving relationships reorient our focus to love, as Probert suggests?  This is an exciting way to see the subject, and seems in my mind to be very motivational.  But would it tend to absolve the individual from personal responsibility?  Another question this sparks is whether a relational definition of sin makes us accountable for each other&#8217;s sin.  (This might be why Mormons are always into each other&#8217;s business!)  If sin is regarded relationally, it would certainly be important to help others in the community to overcome sin.  But how effective can we be in such a pursuit?</p>
<p>Do you think a relational definition of sin might be helpful for Latter-day Saints in their journeys toward godhood?</p>
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		<title>Prophets, Seers and Bureaucrats</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I listened recently to a Mormon Expression podcast with John Dehlin, in which he comments upon the difficult position the Church leaders face.  He observes that their are times when they make particular decisions based upon a legalistic-bureaucratic framework that sometimes seem incomprehensible, even unchristian but that these decision are understandable. I would like to ask this question: Is there an alternative? Quinn argues that during the explosive Church growth of the 1950’s-1970’s the Church attempted to draw upon a number of external influences in making the organization more efficient and effective.  At the same time there was an explosive growth in Church bureaucracy.  This led some to become concerned over the influence and direction of power and authority within the hierarchical structure. According to Quinn, both J. Reuben Clark Jr. and David O. McKay were concerned that the increasing bureaucratic, financial and organizational burden meant that the GA’s were not able (due to lack of knowledge or expertise) to make decisions that would need to be made.  They would, of necessity, have to rely upon technocrats and other specialists from the various sub-committees at Church Headquarters.  President McKay’s concern was that this movement would involve an ecclesiastical abdication of the God-given authority to led [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened recently to a Mormon Expression podcast with <a href="http://mormonstories.org/?p=788">John Dehlin</a>, in which he comments upon the difficult position the Church leaders face.  He observes that their are times when they make particular decisions based upon a legalistic-bureaucratic framework that sometimes seem incomprehensible, even unchristian but that these decision are understandable. I would like to ask this question: Is there an alternative?<span id="more-9670"></span></p>
<p>Quinn argues that during the explosive Church growth of the 1950’s-1970’s the Church attempted to draw upon a number of external influences in making the organization more efficient and effective.  At the same time there was an explosive growth in Church bureaucracy.  This led some to become concerned over the influence and direction of power and authority within the hierarchical structure.</p>
<p>According to Quinn, both J. Reuben Clark Jr. and David O. McKay were concerned that the increasing bureaucratic, financial and organizational burden meant that the GA’s were not able (due to lack of knowledge or expertise) to make decisions that would need to be made.  They would, of necessity, have to rely upon technocrats and other specialists from the various sub-committees at Church Headquarters.  President McKay’s concern was that this movement would involve an ecclesiastical abdication of the God-given authority to led the Church.</p>
<p>This model of Prophetic leadership in temporal, as well as spiritual matters, has a long and varied history in the standard works and has been exemplified by our earliest and most influential leaders.  The first reason therefore that I am unconvinced that there is an alternative to a mixture (even a heavy emphasis) on the bureaucratic, as opposed to the prophetic, in our Church leadership is that theologically they are expected to be able to guide a temporally-situated Church.  Yet, their burden is fraught with a multiplicity of complex challenges that Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and others never faced.</p>
<p>John Dehlin rightly notes that within this they have a responsibility to protect the image of the ‘Prophetic Mantle’.  In one sense, therefore, it seems possible that although they believe that as &#8216;Prophets, Seers and Revelators&#8217; they have a responsibility over the temporal, they also feel a sense of dissatisfaction or dissonance over the types of decisions they have to make.  This is evident by the fact they do not talk about such decisions and even try to mask these processes from the general membership because they feel that such decision-making processes might undermine the image of the ‘Prophetic Mantle’.  I think they are right; it might well have this effect.</p>
<p>Now it is possible to argue that the &#8216;Prophetic Mantle&#8217; does not need to be protected.  I can sympathise with this position however I believe that the Brethren intentionally present a view of their work which most accurately exemplifies what they expect from their local leaders.  Bishops and Stake Presidents do not make the same type of decisions that might require this legalistic-bureaucractic framework and they therefore expect local leaders to seek the Spirit in dealing with spiritual matters.  I am not convinced that this is disingenuous  but rather sense that they are trying to model the gospel in action to a culturally and intellectually diverse membership.</p>
<p>Therefore, they are in a tough, ecclesiastical bind.  Abdicate the responsibility for the kingdom (to a small or even a large extent) or face the possibility of undermining the ‘Prophetic Mantle’, which I believe they have, and giving scope for local leaders to approach issues in this same legalistic-bureaucractic manner.</p>
<p>I can see why they do what they do because I am not sure I see a valid alternative, theologically or organisationally.  Do you?</p>
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		<title>Jacob&#8217;s Ladder: More on Faith Vs. Works</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bored in Vernal</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[OT SS Lesson #10 Though it&#8217;s only an &#8220;additional teaching idea&#8221; in Lesson 12, Jacob&#8217;s ladder has captured my imagination due to some conversations I&#8217;ve recently had with Christian evangelicals. Jacob&#8217;s Dream woodcut, Lubeck Bible 1494 The theme of the ladder to heaven is often used by the Early Church Fathers. Their interpretations of Jacob&#8217;s symbolic dream in Genesis 28 are similar to those made by Mormon General Authorities. In the 2nd century, Saint Irenaeus described the Christian Church as the ladder of ascent to God. In the 3rd century Origen explained that there are two ladders in the Christian life; one of which is the ladder that the soul climbs on the earth increasing the virtues. In the 4th century Saint Gregory of Nazianzus spoke of ascending Jacob&#8217;s Ladder by successive steps towards excellence, interpreting thus the ladder as an ascetic path, while Saint Gregory of Nyssa wrote that Moses climbed on Jacob&#8217;s Ladder to reach the heavens where he entered the tabernacle not made with hands, thus giving to the Ladder a clear mystical meaning. The ascetic interpretation is found also in Saint John Chrysostom who wrote: &#8220;And so mounting as it were by steps, let us get [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-7683" title="Avatar-BiV" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/c51-150x150.jpg" alt="Avatar-BiV" width="80" height="80" /></a><big><strong>OT SS Lesson #10</strong></big></p>
<p>Though it&#8217;s only an &#8220;additional teaching idea&#8221; in<a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=0545c106dac20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;vgnextoid=198bf4b13819d110VgnVCM1000003a94610aRCRD"> Lesson 12</a>, Jacob&#8217;s ladder has captured my imagination due to some conversations I&#8217;ve recently had with Christian evangelicals.</p>
<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;" href="http://www.ancientworlds.net/aworlds_media/ibase_1/00/09/57/00095701_000.jpg"><img src="http://www.ancientworlds.net/aworlds_media/ibase_1/00/09/57/00095701_000.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="640" height="339" /></a></div>
<div style="text-align: center;"><small>Jacob&#8217;s Dream woodcut, Lubeck Bible 1494<span id="more-10028"></span></small></div>
<p>The theme of the ladder to heaven is often used by the Early Church Fathers. Their interpretations of Jacob&#8217;s symbolic dream in <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/gen/28/10-19#10">Genesis 28</a> are similar to those made by Mormon General Authorities. In the 2nd century, Saint Irenaeus described the Christian Church as the <em>ladder of ascent to God</em>. In the 3rd century Origen explained that there are two ladders in the Christian life; one of which is the  ladder that the soul climbs on the earth increasing the virtues. In the 4th century Saint Gregory of Nazianzus spoke of ascending Jacob&#8217;s Ladder by successive steps towards excellence, interpreting thus the ladder as an ascetic path, while Saint Gregory of Nyssa wrote that Moses climbed on Jacob&#8217;s Ladder to reach the heavens where he entered the tabernacle not made with hands, thus giving to the Ladder a clear mystical meaning. The ascetic interpretation is found also in Saint John Chrysostom who wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;And so mounting as it were by steps, let us get to heaven by a Jacob’s ladder. For the ladder seems to me to signify in a riddle by that vision the gradual ascent by means of virtue, by which it is possible for us to ascend from earth to heaven, not using material steps, but improvement and correction of manners.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The account of Jacob&#8217;s Ladder as an analogy for the spiritual ascetic of life is again found in the classical work <a class="mw-redirect" title="Ladder of Divine Ascent" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladder_of_Divine_Ascent">Ladder of Divine Ascent</a> by St. John Climacus. The ladder in Jacob&#8217;s dream represented a symbolic journey where each of the rungs suggest the steps needed to move upward. Man must climb up one level at a time as he participates in the saving principles and ordinances of the gospel offered by the Lord, who stands at the top. Notice how similar this description is to the quote by Marion G. Romney found in our lesson:</p>
<blockquote><p><big>“<span style="color: #003366;"><strong>Jacob realized that the covenants he made with the Lord … were the rungs on the ladder that he himself would have to climb in order to obtain the promised blessings—blessings that would entitle him to enter heaven and associate with the Lord</strong></span>”</big> (“<a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=1c08945bd384b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">Temples—The Gates to Heaven</a>,” <em>Ensign,</em> Mar. 1971, 16).</p></blockquote>
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<span style="font-size: x-large;"><em style="color: #783f04;"><span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;amp;amp;">L</span></em></span>ater Christian interpretation of Jacob&#8217;s ladder is quite different than the early Church fathers, and demonstrates the dichotomy of thought between evangelicals and Mormons on the faith and works issue. In this exegesis, Jesus is seen as being the reality to which the ladder points in that he bridges the gap between heaven and earth. According to Martin Luther, Jacob&#8217;s vision of the ladder represented the incarnation of Christ. In the Gospel of <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=john+1%3A51&amp;do=Search">John 1:51</a> there is a clear reference to Jacob&#8217;s dream pointing towards Jesus Christ, referred to by his title of the Son of Man:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Adam Clarke, an early 19th century Methodist theologian and Bible scholar, elaborated upon this verse:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;That by the angels of God ascending and descending, is to be understood, that a perpetual intercourse should now be opened between heaven and earth, through the medium of Christ, who was God manifested in the flesh. Our blessed Lord is represented in his mediatorial capacity as the ambassador of God to men; and the angels ascending and descending upon the Son of Man, is a metaphor taken from the custom of dispatching couriers or messengers from the prince to his ambassador in a foreign court, and from the ambassador back to the prince.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>In this one Biblical symbol we find differing schools of thought over the issue of salvation: One group views the ladder as a way to reach heaven based on their own actions of improvement and obedience to covenants and ordinances. The other group has access to heaven based on the provisions of God through the Mediator, Jesus Christ, who came to earth and became that ladder or stairway for the sinner to reconnect the relationship with God.</p>
<p>In pondering this issue in the past, I have lamented that such a rift exists between our two faith traditions. It often seems to me that we are closer than we think, and that grace and works are both important. Mormons, I explain, emphasize works so much because we fear that if we don&#8217;t, the sinner might lapse into laziness or indifference. Christians emphasize the grace aspect of the equation so that no one will mistakenly trust in legalism rather than the Savior for their salvation. Isn&#8217;t the truth a balance between <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/eph/2/4-9#4">Paul</a> and <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/james/2/14,17-18,20-22,24-26#14">James</a>? However, the evangelicals have labored hard to convince me that salvation must be accepted upon grace alone. Lately I&#8217;ve been pondering why I am reluctant to join them in their assurance. I&#8217;ve accepted Christ as my Savior, and it certainly would be a lot easier not to worry so much about whether I was paying my tithing, going to the temple regularly, or doing my visiting teaching. But here&#8217;s what holds me back: if Jesus offers me the grace they describe, then I&#8217;ll be OK whether I&#8217;m doing my works or not. But if the Mormon view turns out to be the more accurate description of the will of God for us, I need to be trying my hardest to do all of those works which are in my power.</p>
<p>Am I living my life based on fear rather than faith? Maybe. Will it count against me in the end?  I don&#8217;t see how it could.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s your take on Jacob&#8217;s ladder? Do we walk up, or does God descend to meet us where we are? Can this scriptural metaphor be of any help to us in our faith journey?</p>
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		<title>Are Mormon Academics Winning the Debate with Evangelicals?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been reading Terryl Givens book, By the Hand of Mormon.  While acknowledging archaeological data isn&#8217;t as strong as other aspects of the Book of Mormon, Givens seems to feel Mormon academics have made some impressive contributions.  I posted a longer version of this on my blog.  Givens starts with Hugh Nibley on page 118: No one in the history of Mormon scholarship has done more to establish rational grounds for belief in the Book of Mormon than Hugh Nibley.  Acquiring impressive scholarly credentials (summa cum laude from UCLA and a Berkeley Ph.D. dissertation written in three weeks in 1938) before heading off to war&#8230;. From page 124, Nibley&#8217;s legendary erudition, fluency across a spectrum of languages, and prodigious output (appearing in a wide range of scholarly publications from the Classical Journal and Encyclopedia Judaica to Church History and Revue de Qumran) have lent his work a weight that is unprecedented in Mormon studies. Praised by the likes of non-LDS scholars Raphael Patai, Jacob Neusner, James Charlesworth, Cyrus Gordon, Jacob Milgrom, and former Harvard Divinity School dean George McRae (&#8220;it is obscene for a man to know that much,&#8221; he grumbled, hearing him lecture), Nibley has done more than any [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading Terryl Givens book, <a href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/890236.By_the_Hand_of_Mormon_The_American_Scripture_that_Launched_a_New_World_Religion">By the Hand of Mormon</a>.  While acknowledging <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2010/01/31/foundations-of-book-of-mormon-archaeology/">archaeological data</a> isn&#8217;t as strong as other aspects of the Book of Mormon, Givens seems to feel Mormon academics have made some impressive contributions.  I posted a <a href="http://www.mormonheretic.org/2010/02/22/are-mormon-academics-winning-the-debate-with-evangelicals/">longer version</a> of this on my blog.  Givens starts with Hugh Nibley on page 118:</p>
<blockquote><p><img title="More..." src="http://www.mormonheretic.org/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" />No one in the history of Mormon scholarship has done more to establish rational grounds for belief in the Book of Mormon than Hugh Nibley.  Acquiring impressive scholarly credentials (summa cum laude from UCLA and a Berkeley Ph.D. dissertation written in three weeks in 1938) before heading off to war&#8230;.</p></blockquote>
<p><span id="more-9970"></span>From page 124,</p>
<blockquote><p>Nibley&#8217;s legendary erudition, fluency across a spectrum of languages, and prodigious output (appearing in a wide range of scholarly publications from the <em>Classical Journal</em> and <em>Encyclopedia Judaica</em> to <em>Church History</em> and <em>Revue de Qumran) </em>have lent his work a weight that is unprecedented in Mormon studies.</p>
<p>Praised by the likes of non-LDS scholars Raphael Patai, Jacob Neusner, James Charlesworth, Cyrus Gordon, Jacob Milgrom, and former Harvard Divinity School dean George McRae (&#8220;it is obscene for a man to know that much,&#8221; he grumbled, hearing him lecture), Nibley has done more than any Mormon of his era to further the intellectual credibility of the Book of Mormon.<sup>23</sup> Inspired by his work, a more recent generation of LDS researchers brings a range of impressive scholarly credentials to serious Book of Mormon scholarship.<sup>24</sup></p></blockquote>
<p>Many critics of the Book of Mormon take issue with this idea of &#8220;Reformed Egyptian.&#8221;  Givens quotes Moroni on page 132,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;we have written this record according to our knowledge, in the characters which are called among us the reformed Egyptian, being handed down and altered by us, according to our manner of speech&#8221; (Morm. 9:32)</p>
<p>Mormon scholars take this to suggest the possibility that the writers used modified Egyptian symbols to represent Hebrew words (&#8220;Hebrew words, idioms, and syntax written in Egyptian cursive script&#8221;<sup>53</sup>), certainly a bizarre idea for a nineteenth-century audience.  Now as John Tvedtnes points out, &#8220;the use of Egyptian symbols to transliterate Hebrew words and vice versa, is known from the sixth century B.C. text discovered at Arad and Kadesh-Barnea,&#8221;<sup>54</sup> Papyrus Amherst 63, for example, &#8220;contains a scriptural text in Northwest Semitic tongue written in an Egyptian script.&#8221;<sup>55</sup></p></blockquote>
<p>Givens shows other parallels in the chapter, including:</p>
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<li> Lehi&#8217;s travel through the desert,</li>
<li>his poetic structure,</li>
<li>the golden plates parallel with the Copper Scroll found with the Dead Sea Scrolls (and other writings on ancient metal plates),</li>
<li>similarities between Moroni&#8217;s Title of Liberty and the Quran,</li>
<li>King Benjamin&#8217;s coronation was similar to Bablyonian rituals, and</li>
<li>important plates buried in stone boxes by Darius, king of Persia.</li>
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<p>Givens goes on to talk about John Welch.  As a missionary in Germany in 1967, Welch attended a lecture on chiasmus, a Hebrew literary device.  Welch soon discovered chiasmus in Mosiah 5:10-12, a form of inverted parallel poetry.  Welch went on to work with FARMS, the Foundation of Ancient Research and Mormon Studies (formed in 1979.)  The group looks at Old World parallels in the Book of Mormon.  Givens addresses John Sorenson, the most recognized archaeologist advocating a Central American setting for the Book of Mormon.  (I plan a future post exclusively to Sorenson and his theory.)</p>
<p>Givens says that Mormon Scholarship is causing alarm among Evangelical critics.  From page 143,</p>
<blockquote><p>Under the burden of Mormon scholarship that is increasingly well credentialed, and in the face of Mormon growth that is alarming to evangelicals,<sup>110</sup> the polemics of nineteenth-century preachers are no longer an adequate response.  Until recently, for example, criticisms of barley or pre-Columbian horses in the Book of Mormon would come from writers of anti-Mormon books&#8211;not from botanists or archaeologists.  The latter have not, for the most part, taken the Book of Mormon seriously enough as a text to analyze its historical credibility.  A recent paper by two evangelical scholars suggests that a realignment of the Book of Mormon wars may be coming.</p>
<p>The 1997 address of Carl Mosser and Paul Owen at a regional meeting of the Evangelical Theological Society was remarkable for a number of reasons.  First, it accorded high praise to the state of Mormon scholarship.  They summarized a number of recent publications to illustrate their assertion that &#8220;in recent years the sophistication and erudition of LDS apologetics has risen considerably&#8230;[and] is clearly seen in their approach to the Book of Mormon.&#8221;  As difficult as it may be to accept the fact, &#8220;LDS academicians are producing serious research which desperately needs to be critically examined,&#8221; they insisted.<sup>111</sup></p>
<p>In addition, Mosser and Owen are adamant that evangelical responses to Mormon scholarship have been, almost universally, &#8220;uninformed, misleading, or otherwise inadequate&#8230;.At the academic level evangelicals are losing the debate.&#8221;<sup>112</sup> Actually, it hardly resembles a debate, because Mormon scholars, they acknowledge, &#8220;have&#8230;answered most of the usual evangelical criticisms.&#8221;  And, as of 1997, there were &#8220;no books from an evangelical perspective that responsibly interact with contemporary LDS scholarly and apologetic writings.&#8221;<sup>113</sup></p>
<p>&#8230;[page 144]  The major force in anti-Mormon polemics has long been Jerald and Sandra Tanner&#8230;It is no wonder that non-Mormon historian Lawrence Foster has faulted these critics, the most prolific of all anti-Mormon writers, for &#8220;twisting&#8221; scholarship, resorting to &#8220;debaters&#8217; ploys,&#8221; and, in general, demonstrating &#8220;lack of balance and perspective.&#8221;<sup>117</sup></p></blockquote>
<p>So, what do you think of the state of Mormon Scholarship?</p>
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		<title>Putting an Edge on Abraham</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[OT SS Lesson #9 This story is so very, very familiar to us that I think it&#8217;s important to look at it with a fresh perspective.  So in this post I am including some pieces from media and the arts that force us to think about Genesis 22.  I promise you in advance that some of these might be disturbing to you.  Probably you will disagree with the portrayal of Abraham&#8217;s sacrifice in at least one, if not all, of these pieces.  I hope you will share your reactions in the comments. One of my favorite poems juxtaposes the story of Abraham with World War I.  The poet, Wilfred Owen, is a tragic figure himself, who was gunned down at age 25 just seven days before the Armistice on November 4, 1918.  This poem invites the reader to consider the effects of extreme religious devotion. The Parable of the Young Man and the Old Wilfred Owen So Abram rose, and clave the wood, and went, And took the fire with him, and a knife. And as they sojourned, both of them together, Isaac the first-born spake, and said, My Father, Behold the preparations, fire and iron, But where the lamb [...]]]></description>
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<p>This story is so very, very familiar to us that I think it&#8217;s important to look at it with a fresh perspective.  So in this post I am including some pieces from media and the arts that force us to think about <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/gen/22">Genesis 22</a>.  I promise you in advance that some of these might be disturbing to you.  Probably you will disagree with the portrayal of Abraham&#8217;s sacrifice in at least one, if not all, of these pieces.  I hope you will share your reactions in the comments.<span id="more-9927"></span></p>
<p>One of my favorite poems juxtaposes the story of Abraham with World War I.  The poet, Wilfred Owen, is a tragic figure himself, who was gunned down at age 25 just seven days before the Armistice on November 4, 1918.  This poem invites the reader to consider the effects of extreme religious devotion.</p>
<blockquote><p><big>The Parable of the Young Man and the Old</big><br />
<a href="http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/abraham/abraham.html">Wilfred Owen</a></p>
<p>So Abram rose, and clave the wood, and went,<br />
And took the fire with him, and a knife.<br />
And as they sojourned, both of them together,<br />
Isaac the first-born spake, and said, My Father,<br />
Behold the preparations, fire and iron,<br />
But where the lamb for this burnt-offering?<br />
Then Abram bound the youth with belts and straps,<br />
And builded parapets the trenches there,<br />
And stretched forth the knife to slay his son.<br />
When lo! an angel called him out of heaven,<br />
Saying, Lay not thy hand upon the lad,<br />
Neither do anything to him. Behold,<br />
A ram, caught in a thicket by its horns;<br />
Offer the Ram of Pride instead of him.<br />
But the old man would not so, but slew his son,<br />
And half the seed of Europe, one by one.</p></blockquote>
<p>The next bit of media comes from the BBC&#8217;s That Mitchell and Webb Look.  The parody pokes fun at believers whose religion keeps them from thinking for themselves:</p>
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<p>The image below is an etching entitled The Sacrifice of Abraham by Marc Chagall.   The same study was done as a watercolor, as an oil painting, and as a drawing in pastel and China ink.  Each has symbolic features which are not present in the others.  A review of the etching describes it as follows:</p>
<blockquote><p><a style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 5em;" href="http://www.franklinbowlesgallery.com/NY/Artists/Chagall/Pages/Etchings/bible/CHAG0726P_Plate_10.jpg"><img src="http://www.franklinbowlesgallery.com/NY/Artists/Chagall/Pages/Etchings/bible/CHAG0726P_Plate_10.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="310" height="400" /></a>&#8220;&#8230;the sacrifice of Abraham presents human drama as confrontation of two wills and two freedoms: that of the creator and his creature. Chagall&#8217;s rendering of this scene is of great subtlety. Using a mirror effect between the figures of Isaac and the angel, between Abraham&#8217;s posture and that of the heavenly messenger, he suggests complementarity and ultimate unity between heaven and earth. In the end, there will be no opposition between the faithful Abraham and his God, because there exists a perfect match between human obedience and divine mercy. The bound and naked Isaac is a symbol of extreme vulnerability and suggests acute sensitivity to the word of God. God answers in kind, rushing his angel in sudden descent to arrest the movement of Abraham&#8217;s knife. Thus, although bathed in an atmosphere of frightening proportions, the pictorial narrative speaks of two worlds reconciled by tender love. The latter, tender love, finds its artistic expression in the tiny white ram emerging from the thicket on the left. Too tiny for the giant knife, the ram is a reminder that God does not want sacrifices but love.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Does this type of yielding and vulnerable submission make you  more comfortable than the more fanatic type? Why or why not?</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s explore what would happen if Abraham did decide to think for himself &#8212; to take a critical look at what God was asking him to do. What if that were God&#8217;s purpose behind the lesson, after all? This short story comes from the<a href="http://b10mediaworx.com/b10mwx/bookstore/peculiar-pages/the-fob-bible"> Fob Bible</a>, which I own and I highly recommend.  It is called &#8220;Abraham&#8217;s Purgatory,&#8221; and was written by Ben Christensen.</p>
<p><big><a href="http://b10mediaworx.com/peculiarpages/fobbible/pppfobbible.htm#purgatory">Abraham&#8217;s Purgatory</a></big> (click to read)</p>
<p>I included the lithograph below by Salvador Dali because I think it is interesting how the Abraham and Isaac figures are so small and how the focus of the work is the angel.  It dominates the picture and brings to mind the sacred nature of the sacrificial story.  Dali&#8217;s angel is not an insipid, white robed choir boy.  We see the figure from the back and it is both awe-inspiring, unknowable, and a bit frightening.</p>
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<p>As you watch the following comedic sketch, ask yourself the question: &#8220;Is it easier to do something God asks if you want to do it anyway?&#8221;  How much personal interpretation comes into play when we are deciphering God&#8217;s will?</p>
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<p>Jewish Midrash suggests that it was difficult to dissuade Abraham from the act of sacrificial violence once he had decided to kill his son.  The Midrash reads: “…and he said: Lay not thy hand upon the lad. Where was the knife? Tears had fallen from the angels upon it and dissolved it.” It was the tears of the angels, not those of Abraham that dissolved the knife.  Yet, even after seeing the knife dissolve, Abraham is unconvinced and persists with the violence. “’Then I will strangle him,’ said he [Abraham] to Him. ‘Lay not thy hand upon the lad,’ was the reply. ‘Let us bring forth a drop of blood from him,’ he pleaded.” Abraham refuses to be deterred. His unaffected and immediate suggestion of an alternative method of sacrifice is shocking. Some may consider this to be steadfast piety, but the violent undertone stands in stark contrast with the Midrashim that emphasize piety over violence. After that method is refused, he then pleads if he may bring forth a drop of blood from his son. The use of the word “pleads” would lead one to assume that Abraham’s plea to G-d was an emotional one. The emotion, it seems, stems more so from an inability to sacrifice his son than from G-d’s request that the sacrifice be made.</p>
<p>The sculpture below by Berruguete is included for its portrayal of the human emotion on the faces of Abraham and Isaac.  You will probably hear in your Sunday School lesson the idea that Isaac was a youth in his prime at the time of the sacrifice, while Abraham was an old man.  This interpretation promotes the idea that Isaac was a willing participant in the act of submission to God.  The sculpture visually portrays this idea, picturing Isaac as a strong and virile young man, capable of wresting himself free from his bonds.  Though horrified and frightened, he is kneeling and complaisant.</p>
<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">The Sacrifice of Isaac by Alonso Berruguete</div>
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<p>The final piece of media I would like to include for your consideration is a biblical canticle written by Benjamin Britten.  During this two-person opera, one singer assumes the role of Abraham while the other takes that of Isaac. Through the homophony of the two singers, God&#8217;s voice emerges as if it were a third solo singer.  The use of the older tenor and the younger alto voices in the vignette below to sing the words of God is very moving.</p>
<blockquote><p>GOD: Abraham, my servant, Abraham,<br />
Take Isaac, thy son by name,<br />
That thou lovest the best of all,<br />
And in sacrifice offer him to me<br />
Upon that hill there beside thee.</p>
<p>Abraham, I will that so it be,<br />
For aught that may befall.</p></blockquote>
<p>As they sing &#8220;Abraham,&#8221; the notes are first discordant, then resolve, aptly representing the theme of the story.</p>
<p>Abraham and Isaac by Benjamin Britten</p>
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<p>The story of Abraham and Isaac is a powerful one.  It is the most dramatic moment in the life of one of the most important of the Biblical prophets.  I think that its inclusion in the Bible is meant to be disturbing and to evoke turmoil and discomfort.  I hope that the Sunday School portrayal of this section of the scriptural record will not be too soft and fluffy.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[OT SS Lesson #8 &#8220;The Genesis passage is very clear, that the sin of Sodom that brought on the destruction of the city was indeed linked to homosexuality.&#8221; (R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of the Southern Baptist Seminary) &#8220;Saying that the last recorded acts of the Sodomites &#8212; the demands for same-gender sex &#8212; are proof that they were destroyed for homosexuality is like saying that a condemned man cursing his guards on the way to his execution is being executed for cursing the guards. Sodom was judged worthy of destruction before the incident with Lot and the angels.&#8221; (Inge Anderson, &#8220;Sins of Sodom&#8220;) One of the prominent themes in this week&#8217;s Sunday School lesson is the story of Lot and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. But in Christian thought there has been some controversy over how closely the story should be linked to homosexuality, as the quotes above indicate. There are several points that are up for grabs, and I&#8217;m not sure either side has a complete understanding yet. Read on, and let me know what you think! The background of the story should be taken into account as we try to figure out what is happening. In [...]]]></description>
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<blockquote><p><span style="color: #660000;">&#8220;The Genesis passage is very clear, that the sin of Sodom that brought on the destruction of the city was indeed linked to homosexuality.&#8221; </span>(R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of the Southern Baptist Seminary)</p>
<p><span style="color: #660000;">&#8220;Saying that the last recorded acts of the Sodomites &#8212; the demands for same-gender sex &#8212; are proof that they were destroyed for homosexuality is like saying that a condemned man cursing his guards on the way to his execution is being executed for cursing the guards. Sodom was judged worthy of destruction before the incident with Lot and the angels.&#8221;</span> (Inge Anderson, &#8220;<a href="http://glow.cc/isa/sodom.htm"><em>Sins of Sodom</em></a>&#8220;)</p></blockquote>
<p>One of the prominent themes in this week&#8217;s <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=b5f3c106dac20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;vgnextoid=198bf4b13819d110VgnVCM1000003a94610aRCRD"> Sunday School lesson</a> is the story of Lot and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. But in Christian thought there has been some controversy over how closely the story should be linked to homosexuality, as the quotes above indicate. There are several points that are up for grabs, and I&#8217;m not sure either side has a complete understanding yet. Read on, and let me know what you think!<span id="more-9863"></span></p>
<p>The background of the story should be taken into account as we try to figure out what is happening. In <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/gen/18">Genesis 18</a>, three angelic messengers visit Abraham to prophesy about the birth of his son and to warn of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. This is the part where Abraham shows his compassion by bargaining with the Lord for a stay of execution if there are 10 righteous people to be found in the city. The narrative shows that the destruction has already been decreed, even before Lot&#8217;s experience with the men of Sodom.</p>
<p>Next, the angels enter the city. That Lot meets them at the gate is significant. Though a resident alien, Lot is taking a turn guarding the walls. Sodom has been at war, and not surprisingly the inhabitants of the city are wary of visitors. The very night a <em>non-native</em> of the city is trusted to watch the gate (thus controlling traffic in and out), he lets two people that <em>nobody</em> knows into the city and what&#8217;s more <em>behind closed doors for the night in his house</em>! Certainly this raised some eyebrows and caused some suspicion. Soon the residents of Sodom &#8212; all the people, both young and old &#8212; have gathered outside of Lot&#8217;s house and are demanding that Lot bring the visitors out &#8220;that we may <em>know</em> them.&#8221;</p>
<p>The meaning of the Hebrew word <em>yada&#8217;</em> (to know) has engendered much of the controversy behind this story. The word has a euphemistic meaning (to engage in coitus). Of 943 times <em>yada&#8217;</em> is used in the Old Testament, only ten times is it used with a sexual connotation, and all of these are heterosexual coitus. Thus <a href="http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/02/sometimes-a-cigar-is-just-a-cigar/">some have conjectured</a> that the townspeople were merely asking to know the credentials and intentions of strangers in their city. On the other hand, when <em>yada&#8217;</em> is used with a sexual meaning, a large number of those references occur within the book of Genesis. In fact, the word is used in a clearly euphemistic sense in <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/gen/19/8#8">Genesis 19:8</a>, just three verses after the reference in question.</p>
<p>The absolute sacredness of a guest was a principle well known in the Middle East. Lot wanted to protect his guests, and he refused to hand them over to the crowd. When the crowd insisted, he offered his two daughters as the most expedient diversion for a hostile situation. In the Joseph Smith Translation of these verses, it is suggested that Lot did not offer his daughters, but that the Sodomites demanded the girls as well as the visiting angels. But there is another story in the Bible which parallels the Genesis story. It is found in Judges <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=judges+19%3A13-27&amp;do=Search">19:13-27</a>. In this account, the house guest was a man, not an angel, and the master of the house offered his daughter and the man&#8217;s concubine to the mob. They accepted the concubine woman in place of the man, and raped her until she died. The city was destroyed &#8212; for heterosexual rape and violation of the law of hospitality. In spite of this very similar destruction of a city, no one condemns heterosexuality on the basis of this passage, but rather there is condemnation of rape.</p>
<p>This may indicate that the story of Sodom in Genesis has little to do with homosexuality and more to do with rampant, violent sex as well as irreverent attitudes regarding sex. Sodom’s primary sin was violence. The threat against the messengers and Lot’s daughters is a threat of sexual violence in which sexual orientation is irrelevant. The behavior of the people of Sodom wasn’t about attraction. It was about harming people as profoundly as they could. One might conclude that gang raping some guys is a pretty serious sin, no matter how you look at it. Making the sudden leap to compare them to committed monogomous gay couples, however, is outrageous and unfounded. There is no real similarity, and indeed, our modern Western view of &#8220;sexual orientation&#8221; did not exist in ancient Biblical times.</p>
<p>Another method of uncovering the meaning of the lesson of Sodom is by looking at how other Biblical passages interpret the story. Throughout the Old Testament, Sodom is held up as a lesson in wickedness that deserves utter destruction for reasons other than homosexual acts. Of the eighteen passages outside of the story itself found in Old Testament writings<strong> <em>none refer to same sex activity</em></strong>, and only one alludes to sexual immorality (namely, adultery). To cite a few examples of those found among the words of the Hebrew prophets, Isaiah (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=Isaiah+1%3A1-17&amp;do=Search">1:1-17</a>; <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=Isaiah+1%3A1-17&amp;do=Search">13:1-22</a>) refers to Sodom and Gomorrah to condemn general evil and injustice; Jeremiah (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=jer+23%3A9-15&amp;do=Search">23:9-15</a>), to general moral and ethical laxity. Ezekiel (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=ezekiel+16%3A46-56&amp;do=Search">16:46-56</a>) and Amos (<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/amos/4/11#11">chapter 4</a>) condemn the kingdoms of Judah and Israel, more specifically, for neglecting the poor and needy.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The Deuterocanonical books identify the sin as pride and inhospitality; in Wisdom 19:13-14, we read &#8220;&#8230;whereas the men of Sodom received not the strangers when they came among them.&#8221; In Ecclesiasticus 16:8 the sin is recognized as pride. In the New Testament, too, there is reference to Sodom&#8217;s sins: In <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=matt+10%3A14-15&amp;do=Search">Matthew 10:14-15</a> and <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=luke+10%3A10-13&amp;do=Search">Luke 10:10-13</a>, Jesus implied that the sin of the people of Sodom was to be inhospitable and to reject the words of the gospel messengers.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not until the very late books of <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/2_pet/2/6-7#6">2 Peter 2</a> and <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/jude/1/7#7">Jude 6</a>, that &#8220;sexual immorality&#8221; and &#8220;depraved lusts&#8221; are considered sins of Sodom. In 2 Peter especially, the author seems to be drawing a comparison between “the sons of God” who came down to earth and mated with “the daughters of men” (<a href="../2010/02/06/joseph-smith-didnt-believe-in-watchers/">see Lesson 6</a>), and the men of Sodom who attempted to do sexual violence to the divine visitors whom Lot invited into his home. The comparison is that there was an unnatural mating, or attempt at a violent sexual act, between a divine being and a human being. The first acts lead ultimately to destruction by a flood, the second attempted act to destruction by fire.</p>
<p>A final consideration for the Latter-day Saint might be the words of modern Prophets and Apostles upon the matter. I will only include a few quotations here, but they are enough to demonstrate that there is a lack of consensus upon why the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed, and whether or not it had to do with homosexuality. Joseph Smith preached:</p>
<blockquote><p>“In consequence of rejecting the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the Prophets whom God hath sent, the judgments of God have rested upon people, cities, and nations, in various ages of the world, which was the case with the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, that were destroyed for rejecting the Prophets.” <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=da135f74db46c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=4c9720596a845110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;hideNav=1&amp;contentLocale=0"><em>Teachings of the Presidents of the Church: Joseph Smith</em></a>, 192–205. From a discourse given by Joseph Smith in Nauvoo on Jan. 22, 1843.)</p></blockquote>
<p>In contrast, Spencer W. Kimball unequivocally equated the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah with homosexuality:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We hear more and more each day about the sins of adultery, homosexuality, and lesbianism. Homosexuality is an ugly sin, but because of its prevalence, the need to warn the uninitiated, and the desire to help those who may already be involved with it, it must be brought into the open. It is the sin of the ages. It was present in Israel’s wandering as well as after and before. It was tolerated by the Greeks. It was prevalent in decaying Rome. The ancient cities of Sodom and Gomorrah are symbols of wretched wickedness more especially related to this perversion, as the incident of Lot’s visitors indicates. (Spencer W. Kimball,<a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=33341f26d596b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">The Foundations of Righteousness</a>,” <em>Ensign</em>, Nov 1977, 4)</p></blockquote>
<p>Ezra Taft Benson taught that pride was the sin which caused the city of Sodom to be destroyed:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The scriptures abound with evidences of the severe consequences of the sin of pride to individuals, groups, cities, and nations. &#8216;Pride goeth before destruction.&#8217; It destroyed the Nephite nation and the city of Sodom.&#8221; (Ezra Taft Benson, <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=d8ff27cd3f37b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">Beware of Pride</a>,” 	<em>Ensign</em>, May 1989, 4.)</p></blockquote>
<p>More in line with Ezekiel, Neal A. Maxwell considered Sodom&#8217;s sin to be neglect of the poor and needy:</p>
<blockquote><p>“When love waxes cold, let the poor and the needy beware too, for they will be neglected, as happened in ancient Sodom.” (Neal A. Maxwell, <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=c51f84d4a0a0c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">Repent of [Our] Selfishness’ (D&amp;amp;C 56:8</a>), <em>Ensign</em>, May 1999, 23)</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps in this post I have taken the long way around to show that, while I don&#8217;t think that homosexual orientation can be blamed for the destruction of Sodom and the cities of the plain, there are several valid interpretations of this passage. Additionally, there are many questions we don&#8217;t have good answers for. Why did Lot offer his daughters in place of the heavenly visitors, and why was he not condemned for this action? Of the entire city of Sodom, were there not children under 8 years old, and possibly others who were innocently killed in the destruction? Is it possible to connect the several sexual relationships which seem to run through the scripture block comprising Genesis 18-19? What are the symbolic meanings of the characters and actions? The story is so ambiguous that perhaps every reader comes away with a different perception of the lesson to be taught. I have illustrated that point by including below some art work, each with its own unique depiction of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://freechristimages.org/Images_Genesis/DestructionOfSodomAndGomorrah.jpg"><img src="http://freechristimages.org/Images_Genesis/DestructionOfSodomAndGomorrah.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="277" height="320" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">The Destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, c. 1320</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.alessandrobavari.com/resources/Albrecht_Durer.jpg"><img src="http://www.alessandrobavari.com/resources/Albrecht_Durer.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="254" height="320" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Albrecht Dürer<br />
Lot and His Daughters</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.alessandrobavari.com/resources/Marc_Chagall.jpg"><img src="http://www.alessandrobavari.com/resources/Marc_Chagall.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="248" height="320" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Marc Chagall<br />
Abraham Approaching Sodom with Three Angels</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.alessandrobavari.com/resources/giusto_de_menabuoi.JPG"><img src="http://www.alessandrobavari.com/resources/giusto_de_menabuoi.JPG" border="0" alt="" width="310" height="320" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Giusto de Menabuoi<br />
Sodom and Gomorrah</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.alessandrobavari.com/resources/Schnoor_von_Carolsfeld.JPG"><img src="http://www.alessandrobavari.com/resources/Schnoor_von_Carolsfeld.JPG" border="0" alt="" width="320" height="262" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Julius Schnoor von Carolsfeld<br />
Lot flees Sodom</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.alessandrobavari.com/resources/Corot02.jpg"><img src="http://www.alessandrobavari.com/resources/Corot02.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="320" height="220" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Rembrandt van Rijn<br />
Lot and His Family Leaving Sodom</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.alessandrobavari.com/resources/Gustave_Dore.jpg"><img src="http://www.alessandrobavari.com/resources/Gustave_Dore.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="252" height="320" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Gustave Doré<br />
Lot flees Sodom</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://jloudon.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/sodom.jpg"><img src="http://jloudon.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/sodom.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="284" height="320" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Henry O. Tanner<br />
Sodom and Gomorrah</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/bavari/images/03.jpg"><img src="http://zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/bavari/images/03.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="320" height="179" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Alessandro Bavari<br />
The City of Sodom</p>
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		<title>The Sacred Made Real: Mormonism, Iconography and the Passion of Christ</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Aaron R. aka Rico</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few weeks ago I attended an exhibition entitled ‘The Sacred made Real’ at the National Gallery in London. The collection was focussed on Spanish hyper-realism (painting and sculpture) between 1600-1700. Some of the more famous artists included in this collection were: Velazquez, Zurburan and de Mena. The intent of these artists was to provide life-like depictions of the suffering of Christ in order to invoke feelings of sympathy and awe in the observers. These artists wanted to create a form of spiritual devotion through the simulated presence of the Passion. I was surprised at my own response. Having served my mission in Ireland, I am familiar with the Catholic iconography that is present in many of their Churches. Having been raised Mormon I am familiar with the critical attitude toward these types of statues and paintings; and yet as I surveyed these works of art, some of them had a real impact upon me. Statues of the lacerated Jesus or of the dying Jesus or the crucified Jesus forced me to hold back tears for fear of embarrassment. Even a bust of the Virgin Mary moved me deeply. I sensed that it is a real loss to Mormon culture [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few weeks ago I attended an exhibition entitled ‘The Sacred made Real’ at the National Gallery in London. The collection was focussed <img class="alignright" title="Art1" src="http://heracliteanfire.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Sacred-Made-Real-Christ-a-016.jpg" alt="" width="199" height="300" />on Spanish hyper-realism (painting and sculpture) between 1600-1700. Some of the more famous artists included in this collection were: Velazquez, Zurburan and de Mena. The intent of these artists was to provide life-like depictions of the suffering of Christ in order to invoke feelings of sympathy and awe in the observers. These artists wanted to create a form of spiritual devotion through the simulated presence of the Passion. I was surprised at my own response. <span id="more-9656"></span></p>
<p>Having served my mission in Ireland, I am familiar with the Catholic iconography that is present in many of their Churches. Having been raised Mormon I am familiar with the critical attitude toward these types of statues and paintings; and yet as I surveyed these works of art, some of them had a real impact upon me. Statues of the lacerated Jesus or of the dying Jesus or the crucified Jesus forced me to hold back tears for fear of embarrassment. Even a bust of the Virgin Mary moved me deeply. I sensed that it is a real loss to Mormon culture that we do not readily engage with these products of devotion.</p>
<p>Much of the LDS art that I have seen of Jesus seems banal and insipid. We see a calm, collected and/or kind Jesus; and yet he is rarely depicted in any of the extremes of suffering or joy that was surely part of the humanity of his life. I am aware of exceptions; but even these pail in insignificance to what these Spanish artists created. I believe that Jesus was, at times calm, collected and kind; but I also believe he experienced the full range of human emotions (good and bad). I believe his model for living was abundance.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft" title="Art2" src="http://www.eventsworldwide.com/SacredMadeReal3.jpg" alt="" width="259" height="173" />More confusing to me is that the LDS ‘Lamb of God’ video is different. It makes an explicit attempt to evoke this type of passionate response in the audience by alluding to the vicious suffering of Jesus. Why is it that film is more acceptable as a means of presenting this kind of devotional material? Is this merely a cultural distinction, an anti-catholic hangover from Nineteenth century America, and if so is it not about time that we extend Priesthood legitimacy to all worthy forms of Art.</p>
<p>Perhaps Eugene England was right when he said that Mormons do not experience the &#8216;tragic&#8217; as frequently as others because of the success of our religion, but I doubt it.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="425" height="344" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="src" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/RuDqxn8zXgY&amp;hl=en_GB&amp;fs=1&amp;" /><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/RuDqxn8zXgY&amp;hl=en_GB&amp;fs=1&amp;" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always"></embed></object></p>
<p>Yet this raises another question, why do we need to use these different media to help us connected with Jesus and his suffering. Are we more able to sense the visceral reality of his wounds if they are shown to us? Can we more easily believe in the atonement if we can see the suffering of Christ? If this is so, would not these type of ‘passion’ iconography be a useful medium to help latter-day Saints explore their relationship to our Lord?</p>
<p>Perhaps Mormons need to more fully explore the spiritual artistic heritages that are rooted in other faiths as well as trying to promote our own. I certainly feel that my faith has been enriched by some of what our extended Christian heritage has produced.</p>
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		<title>Joseph Smith Didn&#8217;t Believe in Watchers</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 11:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bored in Vernal</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[OT SS Lesson #6 Hidden in our scripture reading for this week is a strange little passage which many modern Biblical scholars say was originally intended to explain the rise of the giant race of antiquity by the union of angelic beings with human wives.  These verses in Genesis stirred a lively debate among early Christian theologians as they struggled to explain why God felt it necessary to cleanse the Earth with a worldwide Flood.  It all starts with this odd passage inserted in the account before Noah built his vessel, the great ark. And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose&#8230;There were giants (Nephilim) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination [...]]]></description>
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<p>Hidden in our scripture reading for this week is a strange little passage which many modern Biblical scholars say was originally intended to explain the rise of the giant race of antiquity by the union of angelic beings with human wives.  These verses in Genesis stirred a lively debate among early Christian theologians as they struggled to explain why God felt it necessary to cleanse the Earth with a worldwide Flood.   It all starts with this odd passage inserted in the account before Noah built his vessel, the great ark.<span id="more-9682"></span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #993300;">And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose&#8230;There were giants (Nephilim) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. (Genesis 6:1-5)</span></p></blockquote>
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<p>This small passage has been the subject of much dispute in Christendom, and two main schools of exegesis have formed.  The <a href="http://www.khouse.org/articles/1997/110/">first and most popular</a> explains this passage as descriptive of disobedient angels (sometimes called Watchers) who descended from celestial realms and cohabitated with human women, producing a race of giants. Pseudopigraphic literature such as the Book of Enoch are dedicated to expanding this particular incident and serve as proof-tests for this theory. It is also similar in many respects to various myths of Near Eastern peoples.  This interpretation has spawned all kinds of new-age speculation on <a href="http://www.fallenwatchers.com/">alien races</a>, their interaction with antediluvian human beings, and modern-day abductions &#8212; but is actually the more conservative and accepted interpretation by the higher critics.</p>
<p>An <a href="http://www.apologeticspress.org/rr/reprints/Sons-of-God-in-Genesis-6.pdf">alternate explanation</a> results by understanding the term &#8220;sons of God&#8221; to be the pious race descended from Seth, who sinned by marrying descendants of Cain, who would have been pagans. This is favored by some Christian groups who object to the idea that angels are physical or sexual beings. Many Jewish Biblical authorities prefer this explanation as well, to maintain an emphasis on one God.</p>
<p>The first explanation is definitely the cool one.  I would have thought that Joseph Smith would have been all over fallen angels, with his emphasis on the corporeality of divine beings.  But it turns out that Joseph didn&#8217;t believe in Watchers.  Hugh Nibley wrote an article explaining how Joseph&#8217;s theology in the Book of Moses provides a solution to the dilemma:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is the Joseph Smith Enoch which gives the most convincing solution: the beings who fell were not angels but men who had become sons of God. From the beginning, it tells us, mortal men could qualify as “sons of God,” beginning with Adam. <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=moses+6%3A68&amp;do=Search">Moses 6:68</a> How? By believing and entering the covenant. <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=moses+7%3A1&amp;do=Search">Moses 7:1</a> Thus when “Noah and his sons hearkened unto the Lord, and gave heed … they were called the sons of God.” <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=moses+8%3A13&amp;do=Search">Moses 8:13</a> In short, the sons of God are those who accept and live by the law of God. When “the sons of men” (as Enoch calls them) broke their covenant, they still insisted on that exalted title: “Behold, we are the sons of God; have we not taken unto ourselves the daughters of men?” <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?search=moses+8%3A21&amp;do=Search">Moses 8:21</a> (Hugh Nibley, “<a href="http://www.josephsmith.net/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=bcb81f26d596b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&amp;vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">A Strange Thing in the Land: The Return of the Book of Enoch</a>, Part 8,” Ensign, Dec 1976, 73)</p></blockquote>
<p>Joseph Smith&#8217;s unique Mormon spin on the <em>b’nei ha-Elohim</em> was that they were priesthood holders, and the covenant people of the Lord, who were defiling themselves by marrying out of the covenant.  Their resulting progeny were &#8220;Nephilim,&#8221; or &#8220;fallen ones.&#8221;  Joseph Fielding Smith later clarified the LDS interpretation of Genesis 6 when he scolded:</p>
<blockquote><p>There is a prevailing doctrine in the Christian world that these sons of God were heavenly beings who came down and married the daughters of men and thus came a superior race on the earth, the result bringing the displeasure of the Lord. This foolish notion is the result of lack of proper information, and because the correct information is not found in the Book of Genesis Christian peoples have been led astray.  The correct information regarding these unions is revealed in the inspired interpretation given to the Prophet Joseph Smith in the Book of Moses. Without doubt when this scripture was first written, it was perfectly clear, but scribes and translators in the course of time, not having divine inspiration, changed the meaning to conform to their incorrect understanding. These verses in the Prophet&#8217;s revision give us a correct meaning, and from them we learn why the Lord was angry with the people and decreed to shorten the span of life and to bring upon the world the flood of purification.  (Answers to Gospel Questions, 5 vols. [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1957-1966], 1: 136.)</p></blockquote>
<p>The doctrine is repeated in sermons in the Journal of Discourses, such as this one by Charles W. Penrose:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is stated that the iniquity of man was great, and God brought a flood on the earth. Now, to understand that correctly we have to know what kind of position those persons were in, and why they were called the &#8220;Sons of God.&#8221; Those men were in the same position as the Latter-day Saints. They were heirs to the Priesthood. They were the sons of God. They had obeyed the holy covenants. They had received the word of the Lord. They were consecrated to the Almighty. But they went outside of their covenants and their engagement with the Lord, and took wives of the daughters of men that were not in the covenant, and thus transgressed the law of God. The law of God in relation to this has been the same in all ages, and has been given to this people—that the sons of Israel shall wed the daughters of Israel, and shall not go out to wed with the stranger. These men did that, and God was displeased, as He is to-day with Latter-day Saints, who are called out of the world to be His servants, to be holy unto the Lord, to be clean because they bear the vessels of the Lord, when they go outside and wed with the stranger. (Journal of Discourses, 26 vols. [London: Latter-day Saints' Book Depot, 1854-1886], 25: 228 &#8211; 229.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps because of its controversial nature Genesis 6:1-4 is often ignored when discussing the causes of the flood, even though the strong link between them has been noted in the past.  More fundamental religionists believe that this type of explanation of the Flood underscores the importance of maintaining racial and spiritual purity. God’s believing remnant must be preserved. When men failed to perceive the importance of this, God had to judge them severely.  In a Pearl of Great Price Institute Manual, President John Taylor is quoted, describing the Flood as an act of love, done for the benefit of that generation. By taking away their earthly existence God prevented them from entailing their sins upon their posterity and degenerating them.  An additional quotation from Joseph Fielding Smith applies this lesson to our day, saying:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Because the daughters of Noah married the sons of men contrary to the teachings of the Lord, his anger was kindled, and this offense was one cause that brought to pass the universal flood. . . . The daughters who had been born, evidently under the covenant, and were the daughters of the sons of God, that is to say of those who held the priesthood, were transgressing the commandment of the Lord and were marrying <em> out of the Church </em> . Thus they were cutting themselves off from the blessings of the priesthood contrary to the teachings of Noah and the will of God. . . .Today there are foolish daughters of those who hold this same priesthood who are violating this commandment and marrying the sons of men; there are also some of the sons of those who hold the priesthood who are marrying the daughters of men. All of this is contrary to the will of God just as much as it was in the days of Noah” (<a href="http://institute.lds.org/manuals/Pearl-of-Great-Price-Student-Manual/pgp-2-m8-01.asp">Pearl of Great Price Student Manual </a>- Religion 327)</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, the Church still teaches that it is preferable not to marry outside of the covenant.  But we&#8217;re usually not so un-PC as to suggest that marrying non-members is an abominable sin that may cause mankind to be swept off the earth.  Some of you reading this post may not even agree that marrying outside the covenant is what brought a great judgment upon these people.  Once again, we&#8217;re seeing a shift in doctrine, to the point that some Latter-day Saint thinkers are again putting credence in the &#8220;Watcher&#8221; theory of Genesis 6.  Recent examples are posts by <a href="http://www.faithpromotingrumor.com/2009/05/wait-thats-in-the-bible-celestial-sex/">Yellow Dart</a> at Faith Promoting Rumor, <a href="http://www.sethpayne.com/?p=798">Seth P</a>. at his blog, and <a href="http://www.heavenlyascents.com/2010/02/04/noah-prepared-an-ark-to-the-saving-of-his-house-old-testament-lesson-6/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HeavenlyAscents+%28Heavenly+Ascents%29">David Larsen</a> at Heavenly Ascents. In this, we&#8217;re not so different than the Christian world, where the debate continues.</p>
<p>Robert C. Newman points out some interesting facts concerning the current controversy:</p>
<blockquote><p>The present form of the debate is rather paradoxical. On the one hand, liberal theologians, who deny the miraculous, claim the account pictures a supernatural liaison between divine beings and humans. Conservative theologians, though believing implicitly in angels and demons, tend to deny the passage any such import. The liberal position is more understandable with the realisation that they deny the historicity of the incident and see it as a borrowing from pagan mythology. The rationale behind the conservative view is more complex: though partially a reaction to liberalism, the view is older than liberal theology.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why do you think our LDS bloggers are beginning to reconsider such an unusual theory?</p>
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