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		<title>48: Mormonism and Evolution</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This year marks the one hundredth anniversary of the controversies over the study and teaching of evolution at Brigham Young University that resulted in the resignations or firing of three of Brigham Young University’s prominent faculty members and a significant blow to the university career of another. This Mormon Matters episode tells key elements in the story of those 1911 events, but it primarily uses them as a launching pad for a tour of the history of LDS views and approaches to evolution from then to now, as well as more specific reflections on the various tensions between Mormon scriptural and doctrinal commitments and the main thrusts of evolutionary theory. Joining Mormon Matters host Dan Wotherspoon for this episode are philosophy and intellectual history professor James McLachlan, and BYU emeritus and current science professors Duane Jeffery and Steve Peck, all of whom argue that these tensions between Mormonism and evolution are quite minimal, and that Mormonism actually contains many teachings and theological thrusts, including a rich history of viewing scriptural accounts of creation as primarily figurative, that are extremely accommodating to evolution—far more so than those of many other traditions that begin with God creating everything ex nihilo (out of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This year marks the one hundredth anniversary of the<br />
c<a href="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Science-Religion-image1.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-13299" title="Science-Religion image" src="http://mormonmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Science-Religion-image1.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="111" /></a>ontroversies over the study and teaching of evolution at Brigham Young University that resulted in the resignations or firing of three of Brigham Young University’s prominent faculty members and a significant blow to the university career of another. This Mormon Matters episode tells key elements in the story of those 1911 events, but it primarily uses them as a launching pad for a tour of the history of LDS views and approaches to evolution from then to now, as well as more specific reflections on the various tensions between Mormon scriptural and doctrinal commitments and the main thrusts of evolutionary theory.</p>
<p>Joining Mormon Matters host <strong>Dan Wotherspoon</strong> for this episode are philosophy and intellectual history professor <strong>James McLachlan</strong>, and BYU emeritus and current science professors <strong>Duane Jeffery</strong> and <strong>Steve Peck</strong>, all of whom argue that these tensions between Mormonism and evolution are quite minimal, and that Mormonism actually contains many teachings and theological thrusts, including a rich history of viewing scriptural accounts of creation as primarily figurative, that are extremely accommodating to evolution—far more so than those of many other traditions that begin with God creating everything <em>ex nihilo</em> (out of nothing) and being in full control of everything.</p>
<p>We know that you’ll very much enjoy learning the history of Mormonism in its interactions with evolutionary science at BYU and beyond, as well as listening in on this far-ranging and insightful discussion about the science and religion interface within Mormonism and the broader world. After listening, we hope you’ll join in the conversation by commenting below!</p>
<p>Links to additional readings or blogs:</p>
<p><a href="http://signaturebookslibrary.org/?p=7065">Gary James Bergera, “The 1911 Evolution Controversy at Brigham Young University,”</a> (from the volume, <em>Search for Harmony: Essays on Science and Mormonism</em>, eds. Gene A. Sessions and Craig J. Oberg, Signature Books, 1993).</p>
<p><a href="https://dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V29N04_163.pdf">James M. McLachlan, “W.H. Chamberlin and the Quest for a Mormon Theology,”</a> Dialogue 29, no. 4 (Winter 1996)</p>
<p><a href="https://dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V34N0102_195.pdf">Duane E. Jeffery, “Seers, Savants, and Evolution: The Uncomfortable Interface,”</a> Dialogue 34, no. 1 (Spring 2001). This is an updated version of the original article, which was published in Dialogue 8, no. 3/4 (Autumn/Winter 1974).</p>
<p>Steven L. Peck, “Crawling Out of the Primordial Soup: A Step toward the Emergence of an LDS Theology Compatible with Organic Evolution,” Dialogue 43, no. 1 (Spring 2010). Because it is so recent, this article is not viewable online except to current Dialogue subscribers. <a href="https://dialoguejournal.com">However, the issue is available for purchase online.</a></p>
<p>Steve Peck’s blog, <a href="http://sciencebysteve.net/?page_id=2">“The Mormon Organon: A BYU Biology Professor Looks at Science and the LDS Faith”</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/flunkingsainthood/2010/09/why-mormons-should-embrace-evolution-byu-biology-professor-steven-peck.html">Essay by Steve Peck, &#8220;Why Mormons Should Embrace Evolution.&#8221;</a> (Posted as a guest blogger at Jana Riess&#8217;s blog, Flunking Sainthood.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dhbailey.com/ishpssb/">Link to the papers or slides from the session on Mormonism and Evolution at the 2011 conference of the International Society for the History, Philosophy, and Social Studies of Biology, held at the University of Utah, 11-14 July 2011.</a> This session featured this podcast’s three panelists, plus David H. Bailey, who presented: &#8220;Creationism and Intelligent Design: False Friends&#8221;</p>
<p>William E. Evenson and Duane E. Jeffery, eds., Mormonism and Evolution: The Authoritative LDS Statements. <a href="http://www.gregkofford.com/products/mormonism-and-evolution">Link to book available for purchase at Greg Kofford books</a></p>
<p>Howard C. Stutz, “Let the Earth Bring Forth: Evolution and Scripture,” with a foreword by Duane Jeffrey. <a href="http://www.gregkofford.com/products/let-the-earth-bring-forth">Link to book available for purchase at Greg Kofford books</a></p>
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		<itunes:summary>This year marks the one hundredth anniversary of the
controversies over the study and teaching of evolution at Brigham Young University that resulted in the resignations or firing of three of Brigham Young University’s prominent faculty members and a significant blow to the university career of another. This Mormon Matters episode tells key elements in the story of those 1911 events, but it primarily uses them as a launching pad for a tour of the history of LDS views and approaches to evolution from then to now, as well as more specific reflections on the various tensions between Mormon scriptural and doctrinal commitments and the main thrusts of evolutionary theory.
Joining Mormon Matters host Dan Wotherspoon for this episode are philosophy and intellectual history professor James McLachlan, and BYU emeritus and current science professors Duane Jeffery and Steve Peck, all of whom argue that these tensions between Mormonism and evolution are quite minimal, and that Mormonism actually contains many teachings and theological thrusts, including a rich history of viewing scriptural accounts of creation as primarily figurative, that are extremely accommodating to evolution—far more so than those of many other traditions that begin with God creating everything ex nihilo (out of nothing) and being in full control of everything.
We know that you’ll very much enjoy learning the history of Mormonism in its interactions with evolutionary science at BYU and beyond, as well as listening in on this far-ranging and insightful discussion about the science and religion interface within Mormonism and the broader world. After listening, we hope you’ll join in the conversation by commenting below!
Links to additional readings or blogs:
Gary James Bergera, “The 1911 Evolution Controversy at Brigham Young University,” (from the volume, Search for Harmony: Essays on Science and Mormonism, eds. Gene A. Sessions and Craig J. Oberg, Signature Books, 1993).
James M. McLachlan, “W.H. Chamberlin and the Quest for a Mormon Theology,” Dialogue 29, no. 4 (Winter 1996)
Duane E. Jeffery, “Seers, Savants, and Evolution: The Uncomfortable Interface,” Dialogue 34, no. 1 (Spring 2001). This is an updated version of the original article, which was published in Dialogue 8, no. 3/4 (Autumn/Winter 1974).
Steven L. Peck, “Crawling Out of the Primordial Soup: A Step toward the Emergence of an LDS Theology Compatible with Organic Evolution,” Dialogue 43, no. 1 (Spring 2010). Because it is so recent, this article is not viewable online except to current Dialogue subscribers. However, the issue is available for purchase online.
Steve Peck’s blog, “The Mormon Organon: A BYU Biology Professor Looks at Science and the LDS Faith”
Essay by Steve Peck, &#8220;Why Mormons Should Embrace Evolution.&#8221; (Posted as a guest blogger at Jana Riess&#8217;s blog, Flunking Sainthood.)
Link to the papers or slides from the session on Mormonism and Evolution at the 2011 conference of the International Society for the History, Philosophy, and Social Studies of Biology, held at the University of Utah, 11-14 July 2011. This session featured this podcast’s three panelists, plus David H. Bailey, who presented: &#8220;Creationism and Intelligent Design: False Friends&#8221;
William E. Evenson and Duane E. Jeffery, eds., Mormonism and Evolution: The Authoritative LDS Statements. Link to book available for purchase at Greg Kofford books
Howard C. Stutz, “Let the Earth Bring Forth: Evolution and Scripture,” with a foreword by Duane Jeffrey. Link to book available for purchase at Greg Kofford books</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Ardi and the Rise of Mormon Symbology</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the advance of science and the study of more and more artifacts such as Ardipithecus ramidus, believing Mormons are faced with a challenge which becomes stronger with each discovery. Although the Church has never taken a firm doctrinal stance on the mechanics of evolution, there has been an authoritative definition on the nature and origin of man. In 1909 a First Presidency statement was issued entitled &#8220;The Origin of Man.&#8221; This statement defines the Church&#8217;s position that God created Adam, the origin of the human family and the primal parent of our race, in his express image. Creation was first spiritual and then physical. Humans do not result from a development of lower orders of the animal creation. The whole animal creation will be perfected and perpetuated in the Hereafter, but they were not made in God&#8217;s image, nor endowed with godlike reason and intelligence. Faced with the difficulty of reconciling human origins based on an evolutionary model and a very real Adam who was created from the dust of the earth, Latter-day Saints have responded in a number of ways. Recent generations of Mormons have become increasingly willing to embrace symbology as a viable alternative of interpreting the [...]]]></description>
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With the advance of science and the study of more and more artifacts such as <a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/10/091001-oldest-human-skeleton-ardi-missing-link-chimps-ardipithecus-ramidus.html">Ardipithecus ramidus</a>, believing Mormons are faced with a challenge which becomes stronger with each discovery.  <span id="more-7804"></span>Although the Church has never taken a firm doctrinal stance on the mechanics of evolution, there has been an authoritative definition on the nature and origin of man.  In 1909 a First Presidency statement was issued entitled &#8220;<a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=55bf8c6a47e0c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____">The Origin of Man</a>.&#8221;  This statement defines the Church&#8217;s position that</p>
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<li>God created Adam, the origin of the human family and the primal parent of our race, in his express image.</li>
<li>Creation was first spiritual and then physical.</li>
<li>Humans do not result from a development of lower orders of the animal creation.</li>
<li>The whole animal creation will be perfected and perpetuated in the Hereafter, but they were not made in God&#8217;s image, nor endowed with godlike reason and intelligence.</li>
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<p>Faced with the difficulty of reconciling human origins based on an evolutionary model and a very real Adam who was created from the dust of the earth, Latter-day Saints have responded in a number of ways.  Recent generations of Mormons have become increasingly willing to embrace symbology as a viable alternative of interpreting the scriptural record.  Instead of viewing Adam or Noah as literal human beings, their stories are seen to embody spiritual truths from which we can learn helpful principles.  The scriptural record is seen as archetypal and may be based on events which are more limited than they aver.  Writings about Noah and the flood which accept this approach can be seen <a href="http://www.dialoguejournal.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/4003-White.pdf">here</a> and <a href="http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/science.shtml#flood">here</a>.  Adam is more problematic, because of the role he plays in LDS eschatology as a literal priesthood leader who will return in his physical body to preside at Adam-Ondi-Ahman.</p>
<p>There are at least three options that believing Latter-day Saints have in considering the Adam and Eve scriptures.  First, we can accept them as historical persons.  This necessitates either rejecting the scientific evidence as incomplete or incorrect; or compartmentalizing our beliefs so that they don&#8217;t need to be reconciled.  If you find yourself within this category of belief, how do you deal with discoveries such as &#8220;Ardi?&#8221;  Are you more likely to &#8220;put it on the shelf,&#8221; or do you turn to <a href="http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/BPnews.asp?ID=31389">creationist apologetics</a>?</p>
<p>Another choice is to see our First Parents as purely symbolic figures &#8212; fictional characters in a fictional story that intends to teach theological truths about God and humanity.  This can be a deeply satisfying endeavor, and is even supported by instructions in the Temple that we are to see our First Parents as &#8220;simply figurative.&#8221;  If we subscribe to this option, however, we must revise our eschatology and relegate the Adam of the Last Days to symbolic status as well.  If you are in this camp, are you ready to give up the Adam who will physically return to the American Zion holding the keys to his dispensation?  And what do you do with the many authoritative statements describing this event?</p>
<p>Lastly, we may view Adam and Eve as representative figures &#8212; a pair of hominids who God miraculously modified into the first homo sapiens about 150 thousand years ago.  This theory has promise because it works with modern science, the scriptural account, and last days theology.  It certainly has a great appeal to the modern Mormon armchair theologian.  However, it does not jibe with the First Presidency statements on the origin of man, which pointedly specify that human beings did not evolve from lower orders of the animal creation.  There is no precedent for this train of thought, and adherents must weave a new hypothesis <span style="font-style:italic;">ex nihilo</span>.</p>
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		<title>What do you think about Evolution?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know the LDS church has no official views on evolution. I had someone ask me what I thought about it, and frankly, I haven’t given much thought about it. As I understand, there are people at BYU who believe in evolution, but I think they believe that evolution has limits, and don’t rule out that God created the world. DPC commented on my blog, I think that the problem with the evolution versus creationism argument is that a lot of people have no clue what they are talking about. I can’t tell you the number of times that I have seen mistakes made on the issue. First of all, I think you have to differentiate between natural selection and evolution. They are not the same thing. Natural selection accounts for differences *within* species. For that discovery alone, Darwin becomes one of the greatest biologists of all time. No one can dispute that natural selection works. It explains the variations that we see in, say, dogs (think Chihuahua versus Great Dane; same species, huge variation). Evolution on the other hand refers to the creation of *new* species. Darwin thought that natural selection may have been the mechanism whereby new species [...]]]></description>
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<p>I know the LDS church has no official views on evolution. I had someone ask me what I thought about it, and frankly, I haven’t given much thought about it. As I understand, there are people at BYU who believe in evolution, but I think they believe that evolution has limits, and don’t rule out that God created the world.</p>
<p>DPC commented on my blog, <span id="more-4695"></span></p>
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<dd>I think that the problem with the evolution versus creationism argument is that a lot of people have no clue what they are talking about. I can’t tell you the number of times that I have seen mistakes made on the issue.</p>
<p>First of all, I think you have to differentiate between natural selection and evolution. They are not the same thing. Natural selection accounts for differences *within* species. For that discovery alone, Darwin becomes one of the greatest biologists of all time. No one can dispute that natural selection works. It explains the variations that we see in, say, dogs (think Chihuahua versus Great Dane; same species, huge variation).</p>
<p>Evolution on the other hand refers to the creation of *new* species. Darwin thought that natural selection may have been the mechanism whereby new species were created, but he never had any proof.</p>
<p>NeoDarwinism (which combines genetics with natural selection) postulates that genetic mutation combined with natural selection is the mechanism of evolution. But even that theory is not without problems, and many NeoDarwinists are loath to admit it, but the facts do not fit the theory particularly well. Every time someone says they have found a *missing link*, all it does it show another fully-formed species that is most definitely not a hybrid between and earlier species and a later species.</p>
<p>That being said, however, intelligent design is unscientific to my mind because it attempts to fill in the gaps in present theory of evolution without empirical justification. I think that you can’t reconcile the two. I think that scientists (e.g. Richard Dawkins-an advocate of evolution) should lose the overconfident swagger, admit that the current evolutionary theories are flawed and look to developing better theories that explain the apparent history of life on Earth, rather than try to paint their opponents as uneducated, superstitious buffoons.</p>
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<p>So how do people reconcile evolution with creationism?  What do you think about “intelligent design”?</p></div>
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