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		<title>Virtual RS/PH #21:  The Second Coming &amp; The Millenium</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To the teachers out there, sorry if this one is coming a day late and a dollar short.  Our ward is a month behind on these due to Stake &#38; Ward Conferences.  Mea culpa. Sometimes we forget that the early restored church focused a lot on the millenium, which many of them believed was imminent.  As if they didn&#8217;t have enough stress! This lesson is mostly a compilation of various prophecies about the second coming and the millenium.  Here are the ones specifically referenced in the manual: The Civil War, starting in South Carolina (some might say still going strong in South Carolina) Wars poured out upon all nations (two major world wars plus a host of others &#8211; the 20th century has often been called a century of warfare) Famine, plague, earthquakes, thunderbolt &#38; lightning (the first three are standard CNN fare; the last two are part of the Queen song Bohemian Rhapsody) A seer raised up by God (although Mormons consider this to be Joseph Smith, the Bickertonites, another branch of Mormonism, are still looking for this seer) The moon will turn to blood (I always wonder whether this means it will be red which is a common [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the teachers out there, sorry if this one is coming a day late and a dollar short.  Our ward is a month behind on these due to Stake &amp; Ward Conferences.  Mea culpa.</p>
<p>Sometimes we forget that the early restored church focused a lot on the millenium, which many of them believed was imminent.  As if they didn&#8217;t have enough stress!<span id="more-3054"></span></p>
<p>This lesson is mostly a compilation of various prophecies about the second coming and the millenium.  Here are the ones specifically referenced in the manual:</p>
<ul>
<li>The Civil War, starting in South Carolina (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>some might say still going strong in South Carolina</em></span>)</li>
<li>Wars poured out upon all nations (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>two major world wars plus a host of others &#8211; the 20th century has often been called a century of warfare</em></span>)</li>
<li>Famine, plague, earthquakes, thunderbolt &amp; lightning (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>the first three are standard CNN fare; the last two are part of the Queen song Bohemian Rhapsody</em></span>)</li>
<li>A seer raised up by God (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>although Mormons consider this to be Joseph Smith, the Bickertonites, another branch of Mormonism, are still looking for this seer</em></span>)</li>
<li>The moon will turn to blood (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>I always wonder whether this means it will be red which is a common scientific phenomenon or whether someone will be murdered on the moon, which might be a good premise for a sci-fi novel</em></span>)</li>
<li>The Son of Man will descend in the clouds of heaven (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>not to burst Charles Manson&#8217;s bubble, but I don&#8217;t think he qualifies based on this description alone</em></span>)</li>
<li>The wicked will be destroyed off the face of the earth (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>or does this mean that the play Wicked will finally end its Broadway run?  See how enigmatic prophesies can be!</em></span>)</li>
<li>Judah must return (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>Jews for Jesus?</em></span>)</li>
<li>Jerusalem be rebuilt (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>this would be a lot easier if it weren&#8217;t a war zone</em></span>)</li>
<li>A temple will be built in Jerusalem with water issuing from under the temple (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>a wellspring or someone left the water running in the bathroom?</em></span>)</li>
<li>The waters of the Dead Sea will be healed (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>I assume this means freshwater instead of brackish, but maybe it has something to do with overfishing&#8211;see today&#8217;s AM post for more discussion on this point</em></span>)</li>
<li>The sun will turn to darkness (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>hey, that happens every night!</em></span>)</li>
<li>Earthquakes in diverse places (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>pretty common nowadays</em></span>)</li>
<li>The seas will heave beyond their bounds (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>sounds like global warming</em></span>)</li>
<li>There will be &#8220;one grand sign&#8221; of the Son of Man in heaven that people will mistakenly say is a comet or planet</li>
<li>Contrary to popular belief, all flesh will be subject to suffer from disease and famine, including the righteous  (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>sorry if this isn&#8217;t in your plans . . .</em></span>)</li>
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<p>After the Second Coming, here are the prophecies regarding the millenium:</p>
<ul>
<li>Christ will reign personally (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>this doesn&#8217;t sound like there will be an election since the majority of the planet is still not Christian; or maybe he will just be really persuasive.</em></span>)</li>
<li>The earth will be renewed (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>like a library book?</em></span>) and receive its paradisaical glory (<em><span style="color: #0000ff;">this is the only place you ever see that word paradisaical</span></em>)</li>
<li>The nations will dwell in peace for 1000 years (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>that would be a nice change</em></span>)</li>
<li>The earth will be as a sea of glass, one great Urim &amp; Thummim, and when we look in it we will see as we are seen (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>So, if the internet is a Urim &amp; Thummim, maybe this is like Facebook?</em></span>)</li>
</ul>
<p>The lesson talks about some of the good things about focusing on the Second Coming &amp; Millenium:</p>
<ol>
<li>It <strong>motivates</strong> us to live the commandments and be good people.</li>
<li>It provides a sense of <strong>urgency</strong> to fulfill the three missions of the church.</li>
<li>For those enduring <strong>trials</strong>, there is an end in sight.</li>
</ol>
<p>But there are also some potential negative side effects of this focus:</p>
<ol>
<li>Developing a <strong>complacent attitude</strong> that &#8220;this world&#8221; is temporary anyway and doesn&#8217;t matter; hardly an effective way to foster our stewardship of this earth (e.g. why recycle?).</li>
<li>An <strong>expectation of reward</strong> for good deeds (rather than doing things out of a love of God &amp; our fellow human beings).  This is kind of like the Santa Claus effect on children&#8211;10 months out of the year they behave like troglodytes, but they are perfect angels once Christmas is around the corner.</li>
<li>A <strong>hyperbolic worldview</strong> in which danger lurks at every corner and there is a war for our souls at every turn; fear is not a good basis for Christian charity toward others or rational, balanced decision-making.</li>
</ol>
<p>What are your thoughts as you think about the Second Coming and the Millenium?  Do you make an extra effort to be good when the moon turns red due to a solar eclipse when there are dust particles in the air?  Does thinking about the Second Coming motivate you to be a better person or is it too &#8220;out there&#8221; to contemplate?  Discuss.</p>
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		<title>Is the Internet a Urim &amp; Thummim?</title>
		<link>http://mormonmatters.org/2008/08/20/is-the-internet-a-urim-thummim/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is a Urim &#38; Thummim, and how will the earth become like one? Is this like the statement by Brigham Young that missionaries would teach people on the moon and the sun? (still waiting for that mission call)  Or is it an example of a pre-industrial man trying to explain 21st century technology in terms he understood? What is a Urim &#38; Thummim? Literal translation yields several choices:  &#8220;truth and light,&#8221; &#8220;lights and perfections,&#8221; &#8220;revelation and truth&#8221; or &#8220;truth and doctrine.&#8221; An ancient form of communication with God along with dreams and prophets.  (like lds.org?) Sometimes they were used by prophets, but the implication is that they could also be used by others to answer yes/no questions.  (Sounds like binary code to me, the basis of all computer programming . . .) So, what was the prophecy? Joseph Smith said (in April 1843): &#8220;The earth when it is purified will be made like unto crystal (or a computer monitor perhaps?) and will be a Urim &#38; Thummim whereby all things pertaining to an inferior kingdom or all kingdoms of a lower order will be manifest to those who dwell on it.&#8221;  (it could be called &#8220;wiki-worlds&#8221;  CK could stay [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is a Urim &amp; Thummim, and how will the earth become like one?<span id="more-740"></span></p>
<p>Is this like the statement by Brigham Young that missionaries would teach people on the moon and the sun? (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>still waiting for that mission call</em></span>)  Or is it an example of a pre-industrial man trying to explain 21st century technology in terms he understood?</p>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://www.jameslindlibrary.org/images/casting_lots/urim.jpg" alt="http://www.jameslindlibrary.org/images/casting_lots/urim.jpg" width="162" height="129" /><strong>What is a Urim &amp; Thummim?</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Literal translation yields several choices:  &#8220;truth and light,&#8221; &#8220;lights and perfections,&#8221; &#8220;revelation and truth&#8221; or &#8220;truth and doctrine.&#8221;</li>
<li>An ancient form of communication with God along with dreams and prophets.  (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>like lds.org?</em></span>)</li>
<li>Sometimes they were used by prophets, but the implication is that they could also be used by others to answer yes/no questions.  (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>Sounds like binary code to me, the basis of all computer programming . . .</em></span>)</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>So, what was the prophecy? </strong> Joseph Smith said (in April 1843):</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The earth when it is purified will be made like unto crystal (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>or a computer monitor perhaps?</em></span>) and will be a  Urim &amp; Thummim whereby all things pertaining to an  inferior kingdom or all kingdoms of a lower order will be manifest to those  who dwell on it.&#8221;  (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>it could be called &#8220;wiki-worlds&#8221;  CK could stay in touch with lower kingdoms through open forums and chat rooms, perhaps a Facebook style application.</em></span>)</p>
<p>&#8220;Then the white stone (<em><span style="color: #0000ff;">a mouse?  or maybe a hard token? or a flash drive?</span></em>)  mentioned in Rev. c 2 v 17 is the Urim &amp; Thummim whereby all things pertaining  to an higher order of kingdoms even all kingdoms will be made known and a  white stone (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>could be a white blackberry&#8211;I hope it&#8217;s got GPS and wi-fi!</em></span>) is given to each of those who come into this celestial kingdom,  whereon is a new name written which no man knoweth save he that receiveth it. The new name is the key word.&#8221;  (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>or password?  although some people will probably just stick it on a post it note in their desk drawer; do you people care nothing for security?</em></span>)</p></blockquote>
<p>Could the internet be a Urim &amp; Thummim according to the prophecy and descriptions?  If so, did Al Gore know he was fulfilling Mormon prophecy when he invented it?  Does that, in fact, make him a Mormon (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>well, posthumously maybe</em></span>)?  Speaking of Al Gore&#8217;s inventions (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>went there!</em></span>), is global warming what is meant by the earth being cleansed by fire at the last day (<span style="color: #0000ff;"><em>maybe &#8220;by fire&#8221; was an exaggeration</em></span>)?  What do you think?  Discuss.</p>
<p>P.S. Please forgive my shameless digs at our former popularly elected president.  All meant in good fun.</p>
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